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EleoCasil
02-12-2008, 10:56 AM
Can anyone give good tips on how to learn how to improvise *Picking* during a song?

Hippie Guy
02-12-2008, 07:35 PM
I wrote a short piece on soloing at: http://liveukulele.com/lessons/soloing/

Hopefully that gives you something to work with.

studentaccount1
02-12-2008, 09:25 PM
Hey Hippie, nice lesson. One nit picky thing I have to say about it though. I am pretty sure that *technically* if you are into the whole "scale X goes with chord type Y" approach, you play a D major scale over A7 (A C# E and then G natural instead of G# from the A major scale.) but that is only if you want to be a theory nerd. which I am occasionally guilty of ...sorry... :o

NukeDOC
02-12-2008, 09:46 PM
I wrote a short piece on soloing at: http://liveukulele.com/lessons/soloing/

Hopefully that gives you something to work with.

being self taught without any formal training in music theory, freestyle soloing has always been a holy grail for me. so i enthusiastically clicked on the link and started reading. then i got to the point where you say "if you dont know your scales, go lean them. right now."

dammit!!!

hahaha.

HumbleSounds
02-13-2008, 07:08 AM
where do I get the scales for the uke? I have them for the guitar, but transfering the form over to the uke and remembering what the root note is can be hard. Is there a source for scales on the uke?

Thanks

dajoka
02-13-2008, 08:09 AM
dis is one of da tings i wanna learn on da ukulele too. I got a couple of books dat helped me get used to picking:

Both of Herb Jr's books is full of info ... an da odda one I REALLY like is Fretboard Roadmaps for the Ukulele.

In dat book Jim Beloff goes through a TON of useful info on how you can get around da ukulele fretboard, from learning da positions of ANY chord (maj, min, and 7th) all da chord inversions, and den important scale patterns on da ukulele. Even get stuffs on chord progressions, blues boxes an all kine stuff liddat.

I still not pau da whole book, since i wen get one brain ovaload :o

But, I did learn how fo pick out melodies and try come up wit some intros to songs I like fo sing. Da odda plus side fo Beloff's book is dat it's real cheap, fo pake guys like me, and da ting even comes wit one CD !

NukeDOC
02-13-2008, 09:09 AM
dis is one of da tings i wanna learn on da ukulele too. I got a couple of books dat helped me get used to picking:

Both of Herb Jr's books is full of info ... an da odda one I REALLY like is Fretboard Roadmaps for the Ukulele.

In dat book Jim Beloff goes through a TON of useful info on how you can get around da ukulele fretboard, from learning da positions of ANY chord (maj, min, and 7th) all da chord inversions, and den important scale patterns on da ukulele. Even get stuffs on chord progressions, blues boxes an all kine stuff liddat.

I still not pau da whole book, since i wen get one brain ovaload :o

But, I did learn how fo pick out melodies and try come up wit some intros to songs I like fo sing. Da odda plus side fo Beloff's book is dat it's real cheap, fo pake guys like me, and da ting even comes wit one CD !
thanks joka. i just ordered the roadmaps book. cant wait to get it.

Howlie Boy
02-13-2008, 09:38 AM
Dont know if this will help at all but i took a clasical guitar class in college (counted tward my aa) and my teacher told me as long as you look confident and you dint show when you make mistakes that know one will know. Soloing is most of the time the musician letting out how they feel. know one will know if you messed up or missed a chord aslong as you keep your timong and dont make that face like ooooppppsss when you do mess up.....

Hope this makes sense. im really tired..

Howlie Boy

davoomac
02-13-2008, 11:25 AM
thanks joka. i just ordered the roadmaps book. cant wait to get it.

Nuke, through what distributor did you order the roadmaps book through?

EleoCasil
02-13-2008, 11:27 AM
yah my dad is petty good at the ukulele and he has me learning the scales... I found some websites that teach you some scales.

NukeDOC
02-13-2008, 11:36 AM
Nuke, through what distributor did you order the roadmaps book through?
i just went through amazon.

i tried ebay, but the ones selling for cheaper didnt specify whether it came with the cd or not. so i didnt wanna take a chance.

koa
02-13-2008, 01:15 PM
Regarding info for scales:

Mark Kailana Nelson's book "Learn to Play Fingerstyle Solos for 'Ukulele" has C,F,G scale in tab form at the beginning of the book. From there you can sort of figure out other scales.

Curt Sheller's, "Quickstart Scale Fingering for Uke, Volume 1 key of C Tuning" covers Blues, Pentantonic, Dorian, Mixolydian, Aeolina & Ionian scales. Each page has music notation with tabs and a graph of the fretboard plus a chart (root note/fret).

I purchased these books directly from the authors. Marks site is Mark-o- dot com. Curt's site is curtsheller dot com...

davoomac
02-13-2008, 01:22 PM
Regarding info for scales:

Mark Kailana Nelson's book "Learn to Play Fingerstyle Solos for 'Ukulele" has C,F,G scale in tab form at the beginning of the book. From there you can sort of figure out other scales.

Curt Sheller's, "Quickstart Scale Fingering for Uke, Volume 1 key of C Tuning" covers Blues, Pentantonic, Dorian, Mixolydian, Aeolina & Ionian scales. Each page has music notation with tabs and a graph of the fretboard plus a chart (root note/fret).

I purchased these books directly from the authors. Marks site is Mark-o- dot com. Curt's site is curtsheller dot com...

How do you incorporate those scales into solos though? do you use them? Like I know a bunch of those scales because I took some music theory classes, but idk how to make use of that knowledge.

Ukulele_Junkie
02-13-2008, 01:23 PM
i practice these sumtimes, well not really, i should do them more often
Scales (http://www.ukulelestrummers.com/Scales.html)

davoomac
02-13-2008, 02:09 PM
i practice these sumtimes, well not really, i should do them more often
Scales (http://www.ukulelestrummers.com/Scales.html)

your link doesn't seem to be working.:confused:

Ukulele_Junkie
02-13-2008, 02:19 PM
your link doesn't seem to be working.:confused:

http://www.ukulelestrummers.com/Scales.html hope this one does

experimentjon
02-13-2008, 04:49 PM
Well, it looks like I won't be improving solos for a while, since I dread learning scales. Even when I took private lessons for my band instrument, I tried to put aside scales as much as possible. I'd end up spending several weeks on one scale simply because I refused to practice it. I mean, who needs to know a scale with five sharps? They were just no fun. But it looks like I'll need to get around to learning them for ukulele and guitar eventually.

clevacheva
02-13-2008, 05:50 PM
dang i need to learn some scales

dafamcallsmebj
02-13-2008, 06:08 PM
thanks joka. i just ordered the roadmaps book. cant wait to get it.

eyy.... lemme borrow it!!!
hahaha

dafamcallsmebj
02-13-2008, 06:12 PM
dang i need to learn some scales

yeah.... mee toooooo!!!
:mad:

dajoka
02-13-2008, 06:18 PM
eh have fun wit da roadmaps book!

I play trombone and euphonium and I HATE practicing scales too. BUT, one nice ting about da uke is dat scales is so easy! once you learn da pattern, you no need even tink about it really :cool:

if someting get mo den 3 sharps o flats ... foget it! ha ha ha

NukeDOC
02-13-2008, 08:31 PM
eh have fun wit da roadmaps book!

I play trombone and euphonium and I HATE practicing scales too. BUT, one nice ting about da uke is dat scales is so easy! once you learn da pattern, you no need even tink about it really :cool:

if someting get mo den 3 sharps o flats ... foget it! ha ha ha
haha yeah but most of the music i play is either jawaiian style or rock and r&b type stuff. so if there are more than 3 sharps or flats, i think i would rather just capo it and simplify haha.

XsevX
02-17-2008, 06:46 AM
I found these cool Ukulele Scales (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efXIF1Adxnw) lessons on youtube. this guy is pretty clear and teaches in simple terms.
Edit:
Check out his vid on Ukelele Theory (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdCTV0BNoXA) too. VERY COOL!!

davoomac
02-17-2008, 12:26 PM
I found these cool Ukulele Scales (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efXIF1Adxnw) lessons on youtube. this guy is pretty clear and teaches in simple terms.
Edit:
Check out his vid on Ukelele Theory (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdCTV0BNoXA) too. VERY COOL!!

Yeah Tafkam's lessons are really good. You can tell that he knows aLOT. I wish hed post more though.

dajoka
02-17-2008, 08:12 PM
tafkam plays some real nice slack key stuff too! da guy rocks.

EleoCasil
02-17-2008, 09:43 PM
Thanks for all the help guys!

TokyoUketarist
04-03-2008, 04:27 AM
If you learn the C major scale only you can actually play 7 other scales.
I explain this on my videos,[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A-bWXjtTgI"]

you don't have to learn a lot of scales just how to apply the ones you know.;)

Lanark
04-22-2008, 09:21 AM
I dunno.
I've played guitar in a bunch of rock & roll bands and for me solos are/were a lot of playing by ear and making lots of mistakes in practice until I found what sounded good. You can usually find three or four notes that'll work in any given situation pretty quick and those are the ones you can always go back to when you get lost. (and if you don't get lost, you're not trying very hard...)
I just start from there and work my way out. If you hit a clinker, do it again a few times. people will think it was intentional. And never underestimate the power of less. Sometimes one single note is more perfect than a flurry.


(I'm also much too lazy to sit and practice scales. It's kind of tedious and I'm not much of a technical musician. I'm much more "feel" based. (translation : sloppy but well intentioned)

JoeyJr858
04-24-2008, 11:48 AM
Nuke, I think momilani's in O'side sells the book, and music central in Mira Mesa and Clairemont have it (from last I saw).

I have a hefty collection of uke books, but I've narrowed it down to fretboard roadmaps, heeday's advance uke (mel bay version) and herb ohta jr & daniel ho's books. Those 3 are REALLY good resources...

and lastly everyone should invest in and always keep Roy Sakuma's ukulele treasury of chords. That's mandatory!

You gotta memorize shapes and you'll be stunned by how much your improvising improves! :D

JoeyJr858
04-24-2008, 11:51 AM
If you learn the C major scale only you can actually play 7 other scales.
I explain this on my videos,[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A-bWXjtTgI"]

you don't have to learn a lot of scales just how to apply the ones you know.;)



I met Kenneth Makuakane at an uke workshop, and asked him for advice with this as well. He told me to master 3 chords and their scales... C, F & G. He said if you play it enough... it'll all click one day and your fretboard will make complete sense. But it will take time...

shoot I've been playing them all and still waiting for it to click! LOL

soon tho.... soon!! :D

JoeyJr858
04-24-2008, 11:55 AM
oh one more thing...

I think mastering the major chords are AWESOME! It's pretty attainable.... BUT what I'm worried about it mastering it on minor chords... I know it's just 1 note difference as you half step down your 3rd note, but yikes... I feel like it'll be like learning to walk again...

lol

oh well, more to practice! =)

Tom_Bombadil
05-20-2008, 10:15 AM
mh what i don't get is why should i learn more then 2 scales, one for minor one for major und just shift it?
major:
http://www.ahdesigns.de/majorfret.jpg

minor:
http://www.ahdesigns.de/minorfret.jpg