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    Quote Originally Posted by gyosh View Post
    You know, I can't find one vet I know who thinks the NFL protest is demeaning to the flag, anthem or military.
    I know one. A friend from my old church. She is a vet and her son just joined the Army. She posted on FB that this was an attack on the military. I responded that I expected her son to be a bastion against that kind of thinking - that forced patriotism isn't patriotism at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gyosh View Post
    You know, I can't find one vet I know who thinks the NFL protest is demeaning to the flag, anthem or military.
    Gary, I'm a vet, and I'll throw my two cents in. I fully support any American's right to protest peacefully, whether I agree with their position, or not. I stood ready to fight, and perhaps die, to defend that right.

    I also feel the NFL protests fall into the category of there being a time and a place for everything. NFL football games seem not to be the right time or place, to me. Why can't these players stage their protests on their own time? The media would still show up to hear what they want to say.

    And, maybe it's just me, but it seems a little ironic for men who get paid millions of dollars to play a game to use that game complain about racial inequality. Discrimination against their race and ethnicity didn't keep them from a level of success that most Americans will never achieve.

    Yes, I feel it's disrespectful of the anthem. BUT, it is certainly their right to do so....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mailman View Post
    Gary, I'm a vet, and I'll throw my two cents in. I fully support any American's right to protest peacefully, whether I agree with their position, or not. I stood ready to fight, and perhaps die, to defend that right.

    I also feel the NFL protests fall into the category of there being a time and a place for everything. NFL football games seem not to be the right time or place, to me. Why can't these players stage their protests on their own time? The media would still show up to hear what they want to say.

    And, maybe it's just me, but it seems a little ironic for men who get paid millions of dollars to play a game to use that game complain about racial inequality. Discrimination against their race and ethnicity didn't keep them from a level of success that most Americans will never achieve.

    Yes, I feel it's disrespectful of the anthem. BUT, it is certainly their right to do so....
    I found two among my high school friends. One said something similar to what you just wrote and the other is kind of a mouth breather, trump supporter can't think for himself kind of guy.
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    . . . and thanks Don. I get it. I get both sides.
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    Until the last few days I thought Ali protested to avoid the draft and John Carlos and Tommie Smith were just militant and defiant.

    I really am starting to get a better understanding of the larger problem that I didn't understand before. At least I think I am.

    I'm not sure if the anthem is the most appropriate time to protest but it is peaceful and it is a huge stage to get your message out, if the media doesn't cloud your message with rhetoric to distract from the main issues.

    It's a huge issue that many people don't want to acknowledge or admit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbycrts View Post
    Hmm...maybe we should encourage that in a state-sponsored breeding plan?
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