::Leader Board:: Ahnko Honu Takes The Lead Chapter 22!

Freeda · Mar 8, 2018

• Most writers and editors make an exception for biblical and classical proper names ending in s. Traditionally, only an apostrophe is added to such names: Moses’ law, Xerxes’ army. However, the influential Chicago Manual of Style recently ruled against this odd policy and started recommending Moses’s, Xerxes’s, etc.

https://data.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-and-proper-nouns/

There certainly is a lot of conflicting information out there.

gyosh · Mar 8, 2018

Freeda said:
https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/621/01/

Also from OWL: James's hat (James' hat is also acceptable. For plural, proper nouns that are possessive, use an apostrophe after the 's': "The Eggleses' presentation was good."

gyosh · Mar 8, 2018

Freeda said:
• Most writers and editors make an exception for biblical and classical proper names ending in s. Traditionally, only an apostrophe is added to such names: Moses’ law, Xerxes’ army. However, the influential Chicago Manual of Style recently ruled against this odd policy and started recommending Moses’s, Xerxes’s, etc.

https://data.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-and-proper-nouns/

There certainly is a lot of conflicting information out there.

As an English teacher from California, we predominately use MLA.

There is necessarily a lot of discrepancy between the different schools of writing because otherwise they couldn't sell their manuals. The change a few rules every few years to generate sales as well.

Quite the racket.

gyosh · Mar 8, 2018

I figure whatever makes meaning more concise.

I'm a fan of the Oxford comma because of that.

bbycrts · Mar 8, 2018

gyosh said:
You got it wrong this time grammar queen.

James' is also acceptable. If it were possessive plural I'd have to do it your way. The James's have invited us over to dinner.

I hate to say it...I agree with Gary on this one, though I had a professor who always got pissy when I'd use Jesus' in a paper, I was able to show her that I was, at least, correct in the usage, even if it was a format she didn't like.

bbycrts · Mar 8, 2018

gyosh said:
As an English teacher from California, we predominately use MLA.

There is necessarily a lot of discrepancy between the different schools of writing because otherwise they couldn't sell their manuals. The change a few rules every few years to generate sales as well.

Quite the racket.

My old school also used MLA - though I believe they changed the rule from the lone apostrophe to apostrophe + s in version 7. I refused the 's in singular possessive for names ending in s (including my own last name!) because it is awkward to read and awkward to say out loud, style manuals be damned.

gyosh · Mar 9, 2018

bbycrts said:
My old school also used MLA - though I believe they changed the rule from the lone apostrophe to apostrophe + s in version 7. I refused the 's in singular possessive for names ending in s (including my own last name!) because it is awkward to read and awkward to say out loud, style manuals be damned.

Probably why s' is allowed still.

hoosierhiver · Mar 9, 2018

Rough one today, fighting with getting a CITES shipment approved. Matt has been pissed at us all week stemming a video game altercation (as usual). This evening, he and Tookta had a long talk that turned into being about stuff he'd been feeling and holding in, they both cried a lot. Exhausting.

salukulady · Mar 9, 2018

hoosierhiver said:
Rough one today, fighting with getting a CITES shipment approved. Matt has been pissed at us all week stemming a video game altercation (as usual). This evening, he and Tookta had a long talk that turned into being about stuff he'd been feeling and holding in, they both cried a lot. Exhausting.

But cathartic.

You should schedule massages for you and Tookta tomorrow.

PereBourik · Mar 9, 2018

gyosh said:
I figure whatever makes meaning more concise.

I'm a fan of the Oxford comma because of that.

The Oxford comma is the Gold Standard of grammatical perfection.

PereBourik · Mar 9, 2018

Buying a house is exhausting. I don’t want to do this again.

And we haven’t even started working on the move.

Freeda · Mar 9, 2018

Thinking about switching to a dumb phone.

Ukulelerob · Mar 9, 2018

bbycrts said:
My old school also used MLA - though I believe they changed the rule from the lone apostrophe to apostrophe + s in version 7. I refused the 's in singular possessive for names ending in s (including my own last name!) because it is awkward to read and awkward to say out loud, style manuals be damned.

So both ways are acceptable?
Kids sounds like much ado about nothing?

Ukulelerob · Mar 9, 2018

PereBourik said:
Buying a house is exhausting. I don’t want to do this again.

And we haven’t even started working on the move.

Almost as much fun as selling one.

Ukulelerob · Mar 9, 2018

Freeda said:
Thinking about switching to a dumb phone.

Really? Very little actual talking goes on on modern phones.

Ukulelerob · Mar 9, 2018

I guess Don didn't catch up yet?

salukulady · Mar 9, 2018

PereBourik said:
Buying a house is exhausting. I don’t want to do this again.

And we haven’t even started working on the move.

But once it’s done you’ll never have to do it again.

Pueo · Mar 9, 2018

gyosh said:
So awkward.

I'm trying to invite one of James' classmates to try out for his club basketball team but I don't know the mom's name so it starts out with "Dear Anthony's Mother"

I taught her younger sisters and I've talked to her a few times but we really never introduced ourselves to each other.

I'm going to sign it "James' Dad"

When I was a kid I was uncomfortable calling my friends' parents by their first names even if they asked. My friend Pete's mom became known - to this day -
as "Mrs. Peter's Mom"

Pueo · Mar 9, 2018

Ukulelerob said:
Really? Very little actual talking goes on on modern phones.

I still use mine for work, so I talk on it quite a bit.

Pueo · Mar 9, 2018

salukulady said:
But once it’s done you’ll never have to do it again.

Never say never!
I am hoping I never have to look for a job again.
We had a company meeting today.
Things are good at the company.
We had a little party at Lucky Strike, and the Senior Vice President said "Drinks on me!" and paid the bar tab on his personal card.

::Leader Board:: Ahnko Honu Takes The Lead Chapter 22!

Well-known member

UU VIP

UU VIP

UU VIP

Well-known member

Well-known member

UU VIP

Well-known member

Well-known member

Ukulele don't judge

Ukulele don't judge

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

Similar threads