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Andy Chen
03-04-2015, 03:34 PM
A few days ago, I just put a new pack on my Boat Paddle after the last set's A string frayed.

Then last night, I saw that the new A string also started fraying.

Man, what gives?

hollisdwyer
03-04-2015, 04:23 PM
That's odd. I still have the original strings on my BP ML Tenor that I received new in October '14. No indication of fraying. However I recently restrung my MM 6 string tenor with a new set (Worths?) from MM and the wound strings, particularly, are not long for this world. I am going to try a softer tension South Coast set shortly. As this 6 string was manufactured in 2011 and originally used by a touring professional, I was also going to check if a fret dress is advisable. That can't be case with your new BP A Style. I'd suggest you ask Jerry for some input.

Andy Chen
03-04-2015, 04:33 PM
Thanks for that. Do you suspect the frets are fraying the strings?

UkerDanno
03-04-2015, 04:53 PM
are the frets rough? do you play hard?

Andy Chen
03-04-2015, 04:55 PM
Hi Danno,

The frets feel fine to me. But I guess I do play pretty hard, cos I barre a lot up and down the neck.

Yet, my Clara's Oasis strings seem fine and I play equally hard on that.

hollisdwyer
03-04-2015, 05:02 PM
Thanks for that. Do you suspect the frets are fraying the strings?

I can't be sure and that's why I want to have it checked out by a good instrument techo that I know.

I can only think of three potential causes:
1. Rough frets
2. Rough finger nails on my left hand
3. Faulty batch of strings

Can you think of any other possibilities?

Recstar24
03-04-2015, 05:49 PM
It's most likely due to playing a lot/hard. Also depends on the kind of music you are playing - I wore out my MM a string real quick playing aaron Keims finger picking book exclusively for a month which features a lot of lead a string work.

The location of the fraying will indicate whether it's a rough fret or not. If the fraying takes place in between frets, then it's probably due to playing. If the fraying is consistently over a certain fret or two, well there you go.

peterbright
03-04-2015, 06:05 PM
A picture of the fraying would be useful.

Andy Chen
03-04-2015, 06:44 PM
Hi Peter, let me try to get a usable picture of it tonight.

Recstar: It's not at the same spots.

Rakelele
03-04-2015, 11:22 PM
I have had the same problem with some sets of Worth Clear: On several different ukes, the A string started fraying imediately (on several spots, but mostly around the third fret). I changed them without any fret dressing, and the problem was gone, so I figure this isn't a problem of sharp frets (nor heavy playing), but an inconsistency in the material. Other sets were fine, and I like them a lot.

Haven't had that problem with Worth Brown.

Andy Chen
03-04-2015, 11:28 PM
Thanks, Rakelele. I am inclined to agree with you. All the fraying sets are worth Clears.

I play equally hard on Pono which has Fremont Blacklines and have no problems with it.

bazmaz
03-04-2015, 11:38 PM
I had this happen once on southcoast strings - but they were VERY old. Never with Worth Clears, but not saying that is impossible.

Essentially - all fluorocarbon strings are made from the same thing - essentially fishing leaders made in Japan - I suppose bad batches can happen, but in my case I put it down to

a) them being too old
b) a rough crown on one of the frets - a guick file and polish with steel wool worked a treat an never seen it happen since.

I suspect b) may be where to look

equina
03-04-2015, 11:44 PM
Andy, not sure what kind of tone you like. I suspect Oasis bright + T-I CF30 will bring your Boat Paddle to life. Give this combo a try.

spookelele
03-05-2015, 07:28 AM
I have worth ct-lg on my pono. Prolly about 30 hours on this set. No fraying for me. I don't tend to bend far/hard though.

tangimango
03-05-2015, 08:48 AM
might be the batch. my worth string A string also frays very quickly around the 2nd and 3rd fret area. sometimes it dosnt at all.

Recstar24
03-05-2015, 09:19 AM
It appears many are commenting on a similar issue occurring. If there is a bunch of us that have experienced fraying a strings on worth clears, i would say its more than a coincidence and could be a bad batch.

Andy Chen
03-05-2015, 02:00 PM
Quick update: I just replaced it with a South Coast string I happen to have. Let's see if it frays in the same spot.

Andy Chen
03-05-2015, 02:05 PM
Andy, not sure what kind of tone you like. I suspect Oasis bright + T-I CF30 will bring your Boat Paddle to life. Give this combo a try.

Hi Equina: thanks for that. I asked Jerry about using a wound low G but he said a wound string would not last as long on BP ukuleles coz the string windings would separate cos of the pin at the nut.

Andy Chen
03-13-2015, 01:37 AM
Just a quick update on this: The South Coast A string I am using to replace the frayed Worth Clears has no problems at all so far.

fongie
03-13-2015, 01:15 PM
Just a quick update on this: The South Coast A string I am using to replace the frayed Worth Clears has no problems at all so far.

I was about to say Andy. Maybe you should have change a different set of strings and see if they fray as well. Seems like you have done that with positive results. I can't imagine it is the fingernails causing this problem. I think you may have had a bad batch, don't know.

Rakelele
03-13-2015, 08:45 PM
Due to fraying of the A string, I have restrung one of my ukes recently, again using Worth Clear, and the A string is starting to fray already. Now in a different spot, right in between the sixth and seventh fret, so this clearly isn't a problem of sharp frets or fingernails. As I have no fraying with other sets of Worth Clear (and never had it with Worth Brown), I really think that this is getting hit or miss. Which is a shame, because I really like the sound and feel of these strings.

Andy Chen
03-22-2015, 06:08 PM
I am inclined to believe Worth Clears are more prone to this problem, after my experience.

Hippie Dribble
03-22-2015, 06:40 PM
I am inclined to believe Worth Clears are more prone to this problem, after my experience.

Andy, you are right.

Somehow missed this thread but Worth clears are well known for doing this. Especially the A. Great sounding strings but some batches seem very subject to this kind of "shredding". Nothing to do with the frets or your playing.

YorkSteve
03-22-2015, 11:22 PM
The curse of reading this thread...I have used Worth strings (clear and brown)on various ukes, and never had a problem. Until I read this thread. And the next day I noticed that I have an A string fraying, a few mm away from the 2nd fret, so not caused by the fret itself. Grrrrr:mad:

Andy Chen
03-22-2015, 11:41 PM
Andy, you are right.

Somehow missed this thread but Worth clears are well known for doing this. Especially the A. Great sounding strings but some batches seem very subject to this kind of "shredding". Nothing to do with the frets or your playing.

Thanks for that, Hippie Dribble.

Rakelele
04-05-2015, 11:19 PM
Here's a picture of fraying on an another A string I recently put on one of my ukes. This is the Southcoast HML-RW set which, like Worth, uses clear fluorocarbon strings. The fraying you see is occuring from the fifth to the eighth fret, mostly in between the frets. Just like with Worth, I have been using several of these sets and never had that problem, so I don't think that it is due to a specific uke or my playing style.

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Andy Chen
04-05-2015, 11:44 PM
Maybe it's clear fluorocarbons in general?

barefootgypsy
04-06-2015, 01:06 AM
Living Water Strings are pure fluorocarbon - I use them a lot and have not had any problems.....