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1300cc
03-19-2015, 09:33 PM
what can you recomend

bnolsen
03-19-2015, 11:35 PM
Your safe answer will be to buy a used fender precision bass (or jazz bass). MIM or MIA.

Then there's ibanez, yamaha, squier VM series.

Gretsch Junior Jet II (short scale), short scale played by "royal blood"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S8N1oXpKc8
his guitars are stock (the pickups are great) but he runs a very sophisticated pedalboard setup.

Amp is important as well, you have that yet?

BigD
03-20-2015, 09:54 AM
Ive really been lusting after that exact grestch,id love to find someone who'd trade me one for a acoustic of mine but they seem to be hard to find used. That video really cemented in my mind that id like one lol but id also need an amp

bnolsen
03-20-2015, 10:49 AM
Ive really been lusting after that exact grestch,id love to find someone who'd trade me one for a acoustic of mine but they seem to be hard to find used. That video really cemented in my mind that id like one lol but id also need an amp

I have the older single pickup g2202 I got used (but pristine) cheap. I also had a nice squier bronco (really nice neck) I bought used for 60usd, put new rails pickup, 4 saddle bridge and flats on it (sadly not quite the right strings). Decided I didn't need 2 4 string short scales and sold the bronco to a professional music writer who seemed to love it when he picked it up. The bronco was nice, but the gretsch still felt better all around.

BigD
03-21-2015, 05:31 AM
That seems to be the general consensus on these things after some research, that the feel and playability is great for the price range.

BigD
03-23-2015, 01:51 PM
Im probably going to end up with a fender vintage mod jaguar,ive heard out of the box they are pretty good and at half the price of the grestch it makes more sense for me

BigD
03-23-2015, 01:52 PM
Although i think the fender headstocks are god-awful ugly

RichM
03-23-2015, 02:46 PM
I've never been a Fender fan in anything, but damned if I don't play an American Special Jazz Bass. Fender just gets basses.

pbagley
03-23-2015, 02:47 PM
what can you recomend

There are so many basses out there that address differing needs. I would need to know more about what you plan to do with the bass before I could be too specific.

That said, I love my G&L bass - very traditional P-Bass feel and sound. They have made a lot of different basses, many in the Fender image, some models are very innovative and better suited for for one style over another. Used pricing is attractive. I've heard nice things about the Korean made Tributes but I've never played one.

Carvin makes a good bass for the money. Some people love them, some hate them. I have an LB-75 which is pretty versatile, and it's at the opposite end of the spectrum from my G&L. I think used Carvin may be the best bass for your money.

You may want to check out talkbass.com when researching basses. The classifieds are full of good used basses.

bnolsen
03-23-2015, 05:03 PM
you can find plenty of good used basses on craigslist as well. Just need to find one with a straight neck and frets that aren't too chewed up. Most everything can be adjusted on a typical electric bass.

The squier vm jag is a pretty common "starter" bass. You can do a lot of mods to them, and they may well need the mods. The one advantage of the gretsch junior jet series is that there's zero reason to do anything to the instrument except change strings. They tend to be gig worthy right out of the box without having to throw money after pickups, electronics, etc. I guess a more accurate statement might be that the pickup is great and there's not many aftermarket replacements out there to tempt one to start messing with it.

A thing to remember about bass. Tweaking your sound is something you do for you, maybe also for the recording studio. When playing with a band all that matters is that you don't sound bad. Almost no one cares about the nuances of your tone, etc.

pbagley
03-24-2015, 05:25 AM
A thing to remember about bass. Tweaking your sound is something you do for you, maybe also for the recording studio. When playing with a band all that matters is that you don't sound bad. Almost no one cares about the nuances of your tone, etc.

And all the bass players said "ouch". The masters felt the disturbance in the Force from our collective pain. The pain of questing toward our perfect tone and style at great personal cost in time and money, only to learn that it has all been for nothing. No one cares.

Take heart. I, for one, care. Play on, my friends. Play on.
:)

RichM
03-24-2015, 05:31 AM
A thing to remember about bass. Tweaking your sound is something you do for you, maybe also for the recording studio. When playing with a band all that matters is that you don't sound bad. Almost no one cares about the nuances of your tone, etc.

Absolutely right. John Entwistle, Geddy Lee, Sting, Chris Squire, Paul McCartney, Victor Wooten, Jaco Pastorius... they all have exactly the same sound and you can't tell one from the next. Nobody cares. :rolleyes:

RichM
03-24-2015, 05:33 AM
And all the bass players said "ouch". The masters felt the disturbance in the Force from our collective pain. The pain of questing toward our perfect tone and style at great personal cost in time and money, only to learn that it has all been for nothing. No one cares.

Take heart. I, for one, care. Play on, my friends. Play on.
:)

I'll double down on that, pbagley-- any band that gives a damn about their sound cares.

bnolsen
03-24-2015, 05:33 AM
Absolutely right. John Entwistle, Geddy Lee, Sting, Chris Squire, Paul McCartney, Victor Wooten, Jaco Pastorius... they all have exactly the same sound and you can't tell one from the next. Nobody cares. :rolleyes:

Walk up to anyone on the street and ask them who these people are. Who really knows that sting or paul mccarney are actually bassists?

RichM
03-24-2015, 05:37 AM
Walk up to anyone on the street and ask them who these people are. Who really knows that sting or paul mccarney are actually bassists?

Everybody I know.

Debby
03-24-2015, 06:33 AM
A thing to remember about bass. Tweaking your sound is something you do for you, maybe also for the recording studio. When playing with a band all that matters is that you don't sound bad. Almost no one cares about the nuances of your tone, etc.


Walk up to anyone on the street and ask them who these people are. Who really knows that sting or paul mccarney are actually bassists?

Do you really think that the tone of a bass doesn't matter? -that the only standard a bassist needs, within a band, is to "not sound bad?" -and that the general public is unaware of very famous bassists? Or are you just having a bad day? If you're having a bad day, I hope it gets better.

Jon Moody
03-24-2015, 10:52 AM
A thing to remember about bass. Tweaking your sound is something you do for you, maybe also for the recording studio. When playing with a band all that matters is that you don't sound bad. Almost no one cares about the nuances of your tone, etc.

Wow. How much do you gig out, because that's the complete opposite of what I've encountered.

LDS714
03-24-2015, 01:54 PM
A thing to remember about bass. Tweaking your sound is something you do for you, maybe also for the recording studio. When playing with a band all that matters is that you don't sound bad. Almost no one cares about the nuances of your tone, etc.
Are those bands hiring? :cool: Because around here, I keep an arsenal of basses handy mainly due to people being picky about tone.

we tigers
03-25-2015, 01:34 AM
I have 5 basses and they all sound totally different. I choose my instruments based what sound is needed and the combination of amplification and venue. It I always come back to my trusty Precision with flats. I use that 70% of the time.
I'd recommend a Squier classic vibe or vintage modified precision or jazz. They are the best bang for the buck imho.

pbagley
03-25-2015, 04:23 AM
Had a conversation with another bass player last night and he mentioned that his old band was very picky about his bass tone. They were also a little concerned about the look, but mostly they cared about the bass tone fitting the music they wanted to perform.

Sometimes the band does care.

bnolsen
03-25-2015, 04:30 AM
I never said the band doesn't care. Just for fun I've been asking people I know who sting is, who paul mccartney is, who jaco pastorius or other people on that list. The answer is: sting and paul mccartney, they're music guys, one was with the beatles. None of them has a clue who jaco or chris squier or any of the other guys are. If you're just playing music for just your band mates...people listening to your stuff just aren't that sophisticated.

RichM
03-25-2015, 04:38 AM
I never said the band doesn't care. Just for fun I've been asking people I know who sting is, who paul mccartney is, who jaco pastorius or other people on that list. The answer is: sting and paul mccartney, they're music guys, one was with the beatles. None of them has a clue who jaco or chris squier or any of the other guys are. If you're just playing music for just your band mates...people listening to your stuff just aren't that sophisticated.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion. My experience is the complete and utter opposite, and it sounds like several other posters here have had entirely opposite opinions. Probably a waste of time to debate it, as you certainly won't change my mind, no matter how many of your friends you poll.

But back to the OP: I think some of the consensus you're seeing here is that there are a few reliable bass brands. If I were to have just one bass, I would probably go with a Fender; they are reliable, proven, and you know what you are going to get. You can also get in at several different price points; the Squiers are pretty good and extremely inexpensive; the Mexico-made Fenders are pretty reasonably priced and good instruments-- a lot of bassists gig with these without apologies. The American-made Fenders are very good, but for a lot of people, the quality improvement doesn't justify the significant increase in price. YMMV, but any of these would be a great choice.

LDS714
03-25-2015, 05:54 AM
Yeah, it's hard to go wrong with a Fender or Squier. Sometimes you can find some of the older Made in Japan models for almost nothing, and they're every bit as good as the US made basses. I have a pair of the Japanese P-Bass Lytes that I gigged with for about ten years, the active pickups in them are versatile enough to get any kind of tone you'd want at least 90% of the time.

Washburns are a bargain as well.

RichM
03-25-2015, 07:10 AM
Yeah, it's hard to go wrong with a Fender or Squier. Sometimes you can find some of the older Made in Japan models for almost nothing, and they're every bit as good as the US made basses. I have a pair of the Japanese P-Bass Lytes that I gigged with for about ten years, the active pickups in them are versatile enough to get any kind of tone you'd want at least 90% of the time.

Washburns are a bargain as well.

I have a Washburn that I bought secondhand; somebody pulled the frets and added maple inserts to make it a fretless. Wonderful bass. I can't speak for Washburns in general, but this one is great.

BigD
03-26-2015, 05:32 AM
Any opinions on a decent combo amp as well? This thread really has inspired me to get into the bass route. Im putting some things p for sale soon, i really want a gretsch but damn if that 3 hundo is just a bit to much right now. Is it even possible to get a decent amp for under 200? Mostly practice but maybe eventual jam with my buddy who drums?

RichM
03-26-2015, 06:18 AM
Any opinions on a decent combo amp as well? This thread really has inspired me to get into the bass route. Im putting some things p for sale soon, i really want a gretsch but damn if that 3 hundo is just a bit to much right now. Is it even possible to get a decent amp for under 200? Mostly practice but maybe eventual jam with my buddy who drums?

Yes and no. For practice and light jamming, a small combo amp will be fine. For really getting the bass tone, you'll need some big speakers, which are hard to come by in a small combo amp. For everyday practice, I use small Hartke combo amp, and it's just fine. It doesn't appear they make it anymore, but it's similar to this one:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Hartke-A-Series-A35-35-Watt-1x10--Bass-Combo-Amp-107934432-i2536878.gc

I recently tried the Orange 50W/12 inch combo amp, and was pleasantly surprised at the amount of thump it delivered for the price ($269). Really good price/performance. Sounds like that's above your budget, so they also make a 25w/10 inch combo for $179. I've never played it, but it may be worth looking at.

Edited to add: If you think you might commit to bass, consider that Orange 50W/12. It's got enough power for small rooms, and could be mic'd or put through the PA for larger ones. You'd get more utility from it than a 25w/10 that would probably never leave the house.

1300cc
03-28-2015, 10:23 PM
I have 5 basses and they all sound totally different. I choose my instruments based what sound is needed and the combination of amplification and venue. It I always come back to my trusty Precision with flats. I use that 70% of the time.
I'd recommend a Squier classic vibe or vintage modified precision or jazz. They are the best bang for the buck imho.are you a professional bass player? If yes then ill go for your recommendation

BigD
03-29-2015, 03:06 AM
After a ton of reading on talkbass im more than likely going the squier vm jaquar. Ppl seem to like it quite a bit and it seems simple enough to mod when the time comes. Not a huge fan of the look but function over eye candy for me...

bnolsen
03-29-2015, 04:18 PM
Amp wise a new v3 fender rumble or an ampeg will do. 12 inch speaker if tbats in your price range. Ampeg thats a ba112.

we tigers
03-29-2015, 09:12 PM
are you a professional bass player? If yes then ill go for your recommendation

Definitely no pro, but I'm in a couple of bands and have been for quite some time. The problem with instruments is that there are so many of them and a lot of choices regarding them are down to personal preferences and taste.
If I were I'd go down to a store and try a few.