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Brenda Wong
03-31-2015, 08:32 AM
I hope you can help me with a decision.
I fall in love with the sound of this GRAND TENOR by Romero Creation. Its $899U.S. I like the rich guitar sound. I did not have the privilege to try it out when I was at HMS so I have no idea how 'heavy' (in weight) this is comparing to the PONO that I tried.
I found PONO heavy but thats not the deal breaker because heavy could mean less chance of sliding off my lap?

QUESTION 1

I play finger style. This Romero Creation has wider neck that means it is great for finger picking style but also mean more effort to stretch my fingers. The question is: is the extra neck width on this model very noticeable to the point that is too wide for small hand? My new Kaneilia concert neck is small , I found it very difficult to play so I thought may be a wider neck is easier?

Also, do you know the name of the song that Corey plays in the sound sample (see link below)?

QUESTION 2

For the same $899 price range , do I get more for the buck if I go with a Pono Classic? If yes which model would you recommend that has similar sound?

QUESTION 3
If I want to go cheap:

For half the price, do you think the Tiny Tenor is a better option ? I am just afraid it is more for strumming because of the shape?

Here is the model I am interested in:
http://www.theukulelesite.com/romero-creations-spruce-rosewood-grand-tenor-package.html

warndt
03-31-2015, 09:29 AM
Also, do you know the name of the song that Corey plays in the sound sample (see link below)?


Beach Boys - Sloop John B (I Wanna Go Home)

For questions #1 thru #3, I'd call Andrew for his recommendation.

Best of luck!

Brenda Wong
03-31-2015, 09:36 AM
Beach Boys - Sloop John B (I Wanna Go Home)

For questions #1 thru #3, I'd call Andrew for his recommendation.

Best of luck!

Thank you. Look like he just made up the solo tabs in his head. No tabs found on the internet . Only chords.

wayfarer75
03-31-2015, 09:39 AM
Doesn't the Kanilea concert have the same width at the nut? (1.5 inches) If the Kanilea is too small, is your Kala tenor also too small?

And that doesn't sound like "Sloop John B" to me.

Brenda Wong
03-31-2015, 09:44 AM
Doesn't the Kanilea concert have the same width at the nut? (1.5 inches) If the Kanilea is too small, is your Kala tenor also too small?

And that doesn't sound like "Sloop John B" to me.

Kanilea neck is small . I kick myself for not buying a tenor . Reason I chose the concert is because I thought it would be easier on challenging chord but that's not the case at all. When the neck is narrow and the frets are small, they are more difficult to play. I should have known coming from playing classical guitar.
Kala tenor neck is narrow as well but much more comfortable than a concert size. Reason I want to buy a new tenor because this Kala is a used and the string is buzzes from time to time although the sound quality is excellent.

wayfarer75
03-31-2015, 09:48 AM
Kanilea neck is small . I kick myself for not buying a tenor . Reason I chose the concert is because I thought it would be easier on challenging chord but that's not the case at all. When the neck is narrow and the frets are small, they are more difficult to play. I should have known coming from playing classical guitar.
Kala tenor neck is narrow as well but much more comfortable than a concert size. Reason I want to buy a new tenor because this Kala is a used and the string is buzzes from time to time although the sound quality is excellent.

Like I said, I think Kanilea's concert ukes' nut widths are the same as the Grand Tenor (hopefully someone will jump all over me if I'm wrong). As for going through the rest of the fretboard, I don't know how the width compares at the 12th fret, for example.

warndt
03-31-2015, 09:57 AM
And that doesn't sound like "Sloop John B" to me.

OK...What song is it?

wayfarer75
03-31-2015, 10:01 AM
OK...What song is it?

LOL, if I knew, I would've posted it.

pritch
03-31-2015, 10:04 AM
And that doesn't sound like "Sloop John B" to me.

Nor me. There is a phrase that is mindful of "Sloop" but equally there is another part that reminds me of something else, but exactly what is unclear.

spookelele
03-31-2015, 10:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deUT1tDmznw

warndt
03-31-2015, 10:20 AM
And...I think we have a winner...Beautiful tune.

katysax
03-31-2015, 10:40 AM
Kanilea has a 1.5 inch nut width on the concert which is as wider or wider than most tenors. I'm a little perplexed why you think it is a small neck. The vertical spacing on the frets is standard concert size. I generally find that chords that need more space are playable on the Kanilea concert more easily than standard concert necks because the Kanileas is wider. I also found the Kanilea tenor a little too wide so it was uncomfortable. There should be enough room on the Kanilea concert so I'm puzzled.

wayfarer75
03-31-2015, 11:33 AM
I think maybe it's both nut width and fretboard length at issue here, and Brenda might be satisfied with a uke with more space all around, like the Kanilea tenor and the RC grand tenor have.

DownUpDave
03-31-2015, 11:35 AM
Kanilea has a 1.5 inch nut width on the concert which is as wider or wider than most tenors. I'm a little perplexed why you think it is a small neck. The vertical spacing on the frets is standard concert size. I generally find that chords that need more space are playable on the Kanilea concert more easily than standard concert necks because the Kanileas is wider. I also found the Kanilea tenor a little too wide so it was uncomfortable. There should be enough room on the Kanilea concert so I'm puzzled.

I think you answered your question without realizing it. Bet you this has nothing to do with width and everything to do with the smaller vertical spacing between the frets of a standard concert length neck compared to a standard tenor length neck. I play tenor much easier because there is more room between the frets compared to a concert and then again compared to a soprano. Brenda was just not using the correct terminalogy.

She was comparing concert length to tenor length, that is why the interest in the Romero Tiny Tenor

Brenda Wong
03-31-2015, 11:50 AM
Kanilea has a 1.5 inch nut width on the concert which is as wider or wider than most tenors. I'm a little perplexed why you think it is a small neck. The vertical spacing on the frets is standard concert size. I generally find that chords that need more space are playable on the Kanilea concert more easily than standard concert necks because the Kanileas is wider. I also found the Kanilea tenor a little too wide so it was uncomfortable. There should be enough room on the Kanilea concert so I'm puzzled.

I picked the Kanilea because the frets are more comfortable than other concert size. I must measure the tenor (Kala) to the Kanilea and see if it's the same width. Stay tune.

Brenda Wong
03-31-2015, 11:51 AM
I think you answered your question without realizing it. Bet you this has nothing to do with width and everything to do with the smaller vertical spacing between the frets of a standard concert length neck compared to a standard tenor length neck. I play tenor much easier because there is more room between the frets compared to a concert and then again compared to a soprano. Brenda was just not using the correct terminalogy.

She was comparing concert length to tenor length, that is why the interest in the Romero Tiny Tenor

Dave you are my best translator. LOL Yes yes yes yes yes yes.

Brenda Wong
03-31-2015, 11:52 AM
And...I think we have a winner...Beautiful tune.

I bet Corey made up the tune in his head. Let's me email him .

Brenda Wong
03-31-2015, 11:56 AM
I hope someone will reply to my question if this grand tenor is heavier than Pono and his/her recommendation on a PONO in the same price range.
It's so hard to place an order without seeing it in person.

wayfarer75
03-31-2015, 12:15 PM
I bet Corey made up the tune in his head. Let's me email him .

It was posted on the first page, it's called "Island Style."

I think asking the retailer or manufacturer about weight differences will help. Not sure too many UUers have held the grand tenor. Keep in mind the nut width of a Pono is the same as your Kala.

Brenda Wong
03-31-2015, 01:28 PM
It was posted on the first page, it's called "Island Style."

I think asking the retailer or manufacturer about weight differences will help. Not sure too many UUers have held the grand tenor. Keep in mind the nut width of a Pono is the same as your Kala.

I just emailed Zach at HMS. Let's see what he say. I just thought someone own a Grand Tenor can give me an advice.

Brenda Wong
03-31-2015, 01:31 PM
This is what Zach from HMS says :

Zachary Shimizu replied:
The romero is definitely lighter then then a Pono.
I don't think the it will make a huge difference but you will more likely be comfortable with the tenor spacing.
I personally prefer the Pono but I like the heavier build and a thick neck. I'm not sure but I think you might prefer the Romero.
Corey is playing a instrumental version of the song "Island Style" by John Cruz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deUT1tDmznw

Aloha,

Zach
The Ukulele Site Shipping Manager
www.theukulelesite.com

Rakelele
03-31-2015, 07:35 PM
I hope someone will reply to my question if this grand tenor is heavier than Pono and his/her recommendation on a PONO in the same price range.

Just to be clear, the Romero Creations I have isn't exactly light weight. Both the Romero and the Ponos are excellently built, though. Personally, I'd pick a Pono first, something like Ebony or Rosewood with a Cedar or Spruce top. But if you say you like the sound sample of the Romero, than maybe you should just follow your ear...

UkeInTW
04-01-2015, 07:32 AM
I have both the Grand Tenor and Tiny Tenor. I agree that the Romero Creations is not what I would call a light uke, fairly solid, probably medium weight. The nut width is around 1.5", while the Tiny Tenor is probably closer to 1-3/8. I have smaller hands, so do notice that on some chords I need to stretch a little more on the Grand tenor. Not a deal breaker, but noticeable. The neck on the grand is a bit thinner depth wise, compared to some of my other ukes, so that also helps.

The tiny tenor is nice to have a tenor scale on a more portable concert size. It is fairly light. I have the all koa one. Not bad sound for a small uke. The Labella strings on the tiny tenor are pleasing and I like the sound, although on a few frets / strings it does not sustain as well, although that is natural, but just a little more noticeable. Overall, I like the tiny tenor for my travel light uke.

I cant comment on a Pono, as I dont own one, although have strummed a couple. I dont remember them being much heavier than the grand, but hard to recall and compare when it was not done together. Pono's are nice. I was also thinking of getting one before. I do hear they have thicker necks, depth wise, if I recall. If you get a pro classic Pono, then it has a radius fretboard, if that matters to you.

sam13
04-01-2015, 05:21 PM
Just to be clear, the Romero Creations I have isn't exactly light weight. Both the Romero and the Ponos are excellently built, though. Personally, I'd pick a Pono first, something like Ebony or Rosewood with a Cedar or Spruce top. But if you say you like the sound sample of the Romero, than maybe you should just follow your ear...

Yeah, what Rainer said. PONO! You don't have a radius neck ... and many people will tell you they don't notice the difference ... but you will if you do enough barring ... I have a friend on UU who is looking to sell a Pro Classic Pono ... I will send him this thread.

Have you tried my Pono's Brenda? Do you come to any of the Toronto Uke Jams?

igorthebarbarian
04-01-2015, 08:41 PM
Spookelele - thanks for this link to this song - it's really really good



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deUT1tDmznw

Kayak Jim
04-04-2015, 11:37 AM
There are THREE Pro Classics for sale on Flea Market Music right now. Buying used takes some of the pinch out of the poor exchange rate.

Brenda Wong
04-10-2015, 04:47 PM
There are THREE Pro Classics for sale on Flea Market Music right now. Buying used takes some of the pinch out of the poor exchange rate.

That exchange rate is making me sweat. Very depressing!