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kohanmike
04-13-2015, 07:27 PM
I thought I was satisfied with the three basses I now have, but I was in Guitar Center the other day and saw a reissue limited edition Rickenbacker 21" scale 325 guitar that got me salivating to convert it to a bass, but not for $3400. So I mocked up a drawing of a Rickenbacker 360 guitar as a bass to send to my Telecaster bass builder Bruce Herron in Michigan when the right time comes.

Then I was on the Talk Bass forum and a thread about the Hofner Beatles violin bass got me thinking about making one of those in sub-short scale, so I mocked up a drawing of that one too that I sent to my ukulele and u-bass builder in Vietnam, Bruce Wei.

http://www.fairfax67.com/images/Rickenbacker bass build700.jpg
http://www.fairfax67.com/images/Violin bass build705.jpg

Booli
04-13-2015, 08:37 PM
Those look great. 22"-23" scale for a bass seems to be a sort of comfort zone for me, but other than a U-Bass SUB or Goldtone Acoustic none seem to exist near this scale.

I hacked together a bass bridge, pickup and geared bass tuner for a 1-string bass rig on a raw piece of quarter-sawn Oak 1"x2" from Home Depot, in order to test the so-called 'short scale' bass strings, but found that at that short a scale length, the were either unable to achieve pitch tuned to a low-E (which is the most problematic) and had not nearly enough tension until tuned up to an A (in the standard octave for bass guitar).

I tested over a dozen different single strings in all different gauges from 0.095" up to 0.140", and also a few 'high tension strings' and they were all too floppy.

I am curious as to just how you got those La Bella black nylon tapewound strings (despite the through-body modification) to work on such a short scale for your converted Les Paul Express...my experience showed them to be quite loose and floppy.

My next step might be to abandon the 'electric' strings and magnetic pickup, and go with a piezo UST pickup and try out some cello strings, which are more for a 24" scale length, but the cheapest set of these I could find were like $60, and an expensive one-shot test if it fails, so I'm holding off for now...

bnolsen
04-14-2015, 02:26 AM
the short neck will fix the hofner neck dive issues.
You could try to use a set of strings for an ibanez mikro gsrm25 (contact basstringsonline) and use the low-b as an 'e' string. There's that pesky scale thing to deal with as you'd have 4+ extra inches of string.

kohanmike
04-14-2015, 04:20 AM
Booli, the Les Paul conversion with the nylon wrapped strings I did works very well, below is a video and construction details. Also, last night I was on the rondomusic.com web site and they have solid body 20.75" scale piezo Thundergut string u-basses for about $160 that I'm seriously thinking of buying.

blue - http://www.rondomusic.com/ukbe22bl.html, sunburst - http://www.rondomusic.com/ukbe22sb.html, white - http://www.rondomusic.com/ukbe20wh.html, natural - http://www.rondomusic.com/ukbe22n.html

Les Paul 22" scale conversion parts, prices and vendors:
•Epiphone Les Paul Express 22" scale guitar - $99 - zZounds.com
•Rotosound Tru-Bass RS88s 30" short scale black nylon coated strings - $31.99 - Amazon
•Black Bass Bridge BA-1004BK L Shape Saddle - $19.99 - lotmusic (China) via Amazon
•Four 3/4" steel pan head machine screws that fit the bridge - $1.24 - Koontz Hardware, Los Angeles
•Tibesti 4 string black bass nut - $1.60 - Aaron Store via AliExpress.com (China)
•4 Chrome Guitar String Ferrules - $4.20 - C. B. Gitty Crafter Supply via Amazon
•4 Black plastic 3/8" hole plugs - $1.96 - Koontz Hardware, Los Angeles
Total Cost: $159.89 US


http://youtu.be/qg82nJMLTc8

http://www.fairfax67.com/images/LP Bass convert.jpg

Booli
04-14-2015, 06:50 AM
Booli, the Les Paul conversion with the nylon wrapped strings I did works very well, below is a video and construction details. Also, last night I was on the rondomusic.com web site and they have solid body 20.75" scale piezo Thundergut string u-basses for about $160 that I'm seriously thinking of buying.

OMG. Mike, no matter what anybody says to the otherwise, you sir are just, AWESOME!!!

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

I seem to never have the funds when I see that these are available, and when I do have the funds, they are always sold out.

But THANKS TO YOU, I got in before they were all gone.

I *just now* bought the sunburst model:

sunburst - http://www.rondomusic.com/ukbe22sb.html

I am so excited now. I cant wait. I need one of these for a recording project, and while not a high-end unit like the ~$500 Kala models, it should serve my needs fine, even if it needs a setup or fret work (which I can do myself). If the preamp turns out to sound bad, I'll just replace it with a Mi-Si (since this Hadean model is so affordable).


Les Paul 22" scale conversion parts, prices and vendors

Thanks again for sharing all that info. I had started a similar project with an older 'beater' no-name strat copy (25" scale) that I had laying around, but never finished it. Now, I can re-use that projects parts for a fretless electric tenor guitar based upon a strat-style body. WOO HOO!!!

SO Thank you very much. Mike, you're ACES in my book. :)

Booli
04-14-2015, 06:55 AM
You could try to use a set of strings for an ibanez mikro gsrm25 (contact basstringsonline) and use the low-b as an 'e' string. There's that pesky scale thing to deal with as you'd have 4+ extra inches of string.

bnolsen - Thanks for the info. Tried a low-b string in many gauges. Still had problems with it being too loose. Also to note that basstringsonline.com no longer seems to offer the 'mini-bass' strings by Pyramid, nor the La Bella MB-23T black nor white nylon tapewound strings that used to be on their site like 4-5 months ago.

bnolsen
04-14-2015, 08:10 AM
you may need to call them directly and ask about the ibanez mikro 5 string set. Apparently they can be very accomodating and help you put together a custom string set if need be.

I'm not sure what the gauge is on the mikro's low-b. I sure wish I could find one to test drive.

For the price of the rondo music solid bodies I'd say "go for it!". The solid swamp ash ones look nice.

kohanmike
04-14-2015, 08:12 AM
Booli, you're very welcome, glad I could inspire you. I just ordered the blue Rondo Hadean and I'm going to see if I can have it modified, shortening the horns and coloring the head plate the same as the body, never liked the long horns on basses, then I'll change to chrome hardware (I got the last set of chrome HipShot fat spool tuners) and Road Toad Pahoehoe yellow strings, don't like the feel of Aquila Thunderguts.

http://www.fairfax67.com/images/Rondo blue bass.jpg
http://www.fairfax67.com/images/Rondo blue bass chrome.jpg

Booli
04-14-2015, 08:26 AM
you may need to call them directly and ask about the ibanez mikro 5 string set. Apparently they can be very accomodating and help you put together a custom string set if need be.

I'm not sure what the gauge is on the mikro's low-b. I sure wish I could find one to test drive.

For the price of the rondo music solid bodies I'd say "go for it!". The solid swamp ash ones look nice.

Thanks for the info. Not sure if this matters any more since the Rondo sunburst Hadean bass uke is on it's way (just got a notice that it's being prepped for shipping). We'll see. :)

Booli
04-14-2015, 09:12 AM
Booli, you're very welcome, glad I could inspire you. I just ordered the blue Rondo Hadean and I'm going to see if I can have it modified, shortening the horns and coloring the head plate the same as the body, never like the long horns on basses, then I'll change to chrome hardware (I got the last set of chrome HipShot fat spool tuners) and Road Toad Pahoehoe yellow strings, don't like the feel of Aquila Thunderguts.

I've always been partial to the traditional tobacco sunburst, to me, it feeds my eye more than the other colors...

The natural wood one was second and then the white third choice, but I was not liking the blue one, but glad that you like it and bought it.

I too found the white Thunderguts to be undesireable in feel, having a texture to me that felt very much like silly putty or Fun-Tak.

However I found the RED Thunderguts to not be too bad and so far my preference is for the Black Pahoehoe strings, but would consider another color set of the Pahoehoe (direct from Owen @ Road Toad Music). Were it not for USPS having their head up somewhere near Uranus, the Silver Rumbler strings I ordered off eBay would be here already...looking forward to trying those out too...

also - FYI - I have an ebay search that sends me new auctions related to the Ashbory bass each day, and last week they had an item being sold by Large Sound (largesound.com) for the Ashbory/U-Bass tuners, the WHOLE set for $32 (but only in 2R/2L and not 4-inline). This is MUCH cheaper than getting them from either Kala or Road Toad for $20-$25 each tuner. I ordered not from ebay but direct from their web site 2 sets (of 4 tuners) [link below] and 2 Ashbory nuts. They arrived in a few days and after enlarging the holes in my Rogue( actually Savannah) Baritone with a 35/64" drill bit, and then thinning out about 1/8" from the front of the headstock with a dremel tool and sanding disc for the shaft threads to be able to meet the top bushing (headstock was too thick), have them installed now.

Note that they are NOT reversible, and can only go 2 per side because of the housing that holds the worm gear and peg button.

I then rough cut a new nut from some black micarta and replaced the nut, and then drilled out 4 holes in the bridge, right down where the existing string holes were and then painfully fed the black Pahoehoe strings through the body. I'm not sure what I'm going to do about a pickup yet. but thus far the instrument 'works' and sounds like a U-bass. before I do a full setup I am probably going to convert this to a fretless by de-fretting it, and then I will make final adjustments to the nut and glue it down.

Thus far, this baritone conversion cost me:
$42 for the Savannah baritone (ebay, musiciansfriend was sold out of the Rogue at the time)
$32 for the large spool tuners (from largesound.com)
$24 for the black Pahoehoe strings (Road Toad Music)
$ 7 for the 35/64" drill bit (ebay)

$105 total sans pickup...

Had I to do again, I might have just bought the acoustic Hadean model, but they were not available for a long time, and the one that Rondo had last week looks like 1970's wood wall paneling and I detest it's appearance, but if other colors were an option, I'd recommend to others to just get the Hadean one, which appears to have an unbranded Fishman Kula or Shadow pickup and preamp already installed (I have not seen one in person, but I'm just going by the off-angle pictures).

When I am done with the de-fretting of my converted baritone, I plan to strip the orange plastic paint off with acetone nail polish remover, which thankfully works well and leaves a nice shiny bare wood below, with little mess and comes off easily when you wipe it on, and then off with a paper towel. Oh but the SMELL - gotta do it outside and wear a mask.

Once the color is removed, I may either get some redwood stain (think picnic table color-LOL), or just use some flat black spray paint, which will be real easy to touch up later on.

One thing to note also, is that most 'bass tuners' need a 35/64" hole in the headstock and a standard drill has a maximum opening in the chuck of 1/2", so this drill bit will not fit unless you get a drill bit that has a smaller diameter shaft than the drill's cutting flutes...thus I had to use some vice-grip pliers @ a 90 deg angle, and VERY carefully turn the drill bit by hand, which only required about 8 total rotations before it had cut all the way through the headstock (VERY sharp tungsten carbide drill bit). Yes, I know I could have used a 'paddle' bit or Forstner bit, but it was 3am when I was on ebay and ordered the first and cheapest thing I could find...

Once I get this conversion completed, and looking and playing how I want it, I will do a video and post here in case anybody else wants to see the project...

And if I somehow manage to mess up and render the instrument 'dead', I'll probably just buy the Hadean wood-paneling colored acoustic one, de-fret it, sand it and then paint it flat black.

Either way, I will hopefully end up with an acoustic fretless U-Bass and a solid-body fretted U-Bass. :)

and in case you might ask, here is the link to the U-Bass tuners from Large Sound:

https://www.largesound.com/buy/index.php/products/large-sound-elastomeric-bass-tuning-set

bnolsen
04-14-2015, 10:30 AM
The ashbory tuners are only slotted, that's it. I did the whole fold down the string end and twist around to hold it, even with the E string. That was with a set of white thunderguts I had.

The hadean omega sub I have the tuners each have a hole in the middle in addition to the slot for the string end to go into. I like that configuration a whole lot better, and the tuners seem pretty solid.

Both my D and G strings (stock white thunderguts) are sausaging at this time. I've got a set of pahoehoe's ready to go whenever I need them. Apparently those don't sausage.

And definitely take a close look at the intonation of the rondo ubass when you get it.

kohanmike
04-14-2015, 11:59 AM
Thanks Booli for the links, good prices. You sure are workin' it with your build, I'm going to have my luthier do the cutting and refinishing of the blue, I'll take care of the hardware, easy enough. As you see in my signature, I have a sunburst and a natural. When I saw the blue Hadean, I decided it would be my "Ric" one instead of spending $1000 on a custom.

The last couple of days I've seen on Rondo's bass listings a zebra wood and a really nice looking flamed maple acoustic base uke.

kohanmike
04-14-2015, 08:30 PM
As I tinker with the redesign of the blue Rondo Hadean, I came up with a nice pickguard. I like having a thumb rest, but I want it to be integrated to the instrument; on the Les Paul I doubled up the top edge of the pickup frame, which works just great, on my Gold Tone I used an electric cable guide clear plastic holder along the edge of the soundhole, and on the Telecaster bass, I had the builder make a thumb rest that matches the pickguard held down by the pickguard screws. Adding a pickguard to the blue Hadean allows for the same kind of thumb rest.

http://www.fairfax67.com/images/Rondo blue bass thumb.jpg

Booli
04-14-2015, 09:14 PM
As I tinker with the redesign of the blue Rondo Hadean...

Looks like your design is coming along.

I received a notice from UPS that my sunburst model is to be delivered TODAY!!!!

I know that Rondo has at least one location in NJ (where I'm currently located) so this is pretty nice. I'm also going to call them today (WED) and see if the local store has these Uke Basses in stock, and if so, maybe take a trip over there to check out the acoustic models. I haven't been there in over 10 yrs, but they are about 35 mins drive from me.

Depending upon getting the solid-body model to fit in a case easily or not, I may be forced to shorten the 'horns' similar to your rendering above...

But I will at least try to see if it will fit in other different cases that I have before I get out the hacksaw and sandpaper - LOL :)

kohanmike
04-15-2015, 04:59 AM
The custom u-bass I had made in Vietnam is a 21" scale. 31.7" long, all of my gig bags are way too big for it, so I searched around and finally came across the gig bag made for the Traveler acoustic guitar, it's 32" long and wide so I bought it from their web site, $60 plus shipping and tax, http://travelerguitar.com/store#!/GIG-BAG-AG-105-105EQ-200EQ/p/36486665/category=9463084. I plan to use it for the Hadean (UPS shows delivery next Tuesday).

Booli
04-15-2015, 09:59 AM
Well, I must be seriously overcome with UAS/BAS right now.

Last night I could not stop thinking about the other acoustic Rondo Uke Basses, so...in a mad frenzy, I gave in.

Yep, I bought one!

The natural model: http://www.rondomusic.com/UKB-24.html

http://www.rondomusic.com/photos/acoustic/ubk24nm1.jpg

Which is listed as a prototype, and has the trap door for string installation, which the other model (more yellow-colored) does not, as per the description and photos: "Now with rear access panel to make string changing easy!"

http://www.rondomusic.com/photos/acoustic/ubk24nm3.jpg

As far as a case for this one, the dimensions listed on Rondo seems hopeful for it to fit into either a Uke Crazy style case, or the Lanikai Baritone Hard-bag case (both of which I have for other instruments), and can do a test fit before ordering another for this instrument.

As to my project Bari-to-UBass conversion project- I'll now have a fully formed Bass uke to compare it to, and should I decide to do any mods to these new Hadean uke basses, I can test it first on the conversion instrument...worst-case-scenario (hopefully) is to have a fretless (in the Bari-to-UBass conversion) and maybe leave this Hadean one fretted...otherwise I'll have a batch of spare parts in nuts and tuners and strings in case of any repairs later on.

I fully realize that I may have jumped the shark here by buying both of these sight-unseen, but since others here on UU have reported them to be playable and functional and sound pretty decent, I think I am ok, and rumor has it that Rondo is good about returns, and I'd only be out the return shipping costs. :)


The custom u-bass I had made in Vietnam is a 21" scale. 31.7" long, all of my gig bags are way too big for it, so I searched around and finally came across the gig bag made for the Traveler acoustic guitar, it's 32" long and wide so I bought it from their web site, $60 plus shipping and tax, http://travelerguitar.com/store#!/GIG-BAG-AG-105-105EQ-200EQ/p/36486665/category=9463084. I plan to use it for the Hadean (UPS shows delivery next Tuesday).

That case is definitely a contender for the Hadean solid-body, and one to consider. Please report back how it fits.

Also, to note that Kala has a padded gig bag for their U-Bass SUB: DUB-UBASS-SB Deluxe Bag for Solid Body U-BASS

seen here: http://kalabrand.com/ProductPages/BagsCasesU-BASS.html

on sale for $48 USD here: http://kala-gear.hostedbyamazon.com/SOLID-U-BASS-DELUXE-PADDED-BACKPACK/dp/B007KONIBM

and the dimensions they list for it here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0As-vcb1c9SOqdHVJb0RqazBwR09NeGpuekp6ZjZieFE#gid=0

suggest that it just might be a better fit for the Hadean solid body, and also to note that Kala's UC-B Acoustic-Electric U-BASS Hard Foam Case
(also shown at the above links)have dimensions that should accomodate the acoustic U-Bass if all the specs for the dimensions from both Rondo and Kala are accurate.

I should also mention, in my excitement I mis-read the tracking info on the solid-body, and it''s actually scheduled to be delivered TOMORROW (Thurs 4/16) and not today. If the 2-day transit time holds true for the acoustic Hadean uke bass, then that item may arrive on Sat 4/18...

so if all goes well, my weekend will be full. :)

Again, Mike, thanks for the heads-up on these being available again!

kohanmike
04-15-2015, 11:44 AM
You're certainly welcome. With your "plywood" complaint about the the natural, I'm surprised you chose it over the flame maple (one of my favorite looks). BTW, that preamp is not Fishman, it's Chinese made that I've used on my ukes, I like it. I know how xAS can take hold, I came very close to ordering the Hofner AND the Rickenbacker builds, but that's been squelched for the time being with the Rondo Hadean, I just don't know how long.

I actually had the Traveler gig bag modified with an extra large front pouch to fit my 13.3" tablet I use just for music, and added a pouch on the lower back side to hold my modified music stand (a conversation unto itself). My Bruce Wei u-bass fits perfectly and it has some removable padding, I see no problem with the Hadean.

Hey!!! I just looked at your string sale link and found Thunder Red bass strings for $23, I couldn't find any on the internet when I searched yesterday, so I ordered them direct from Aquila Italy for $47, crap!!!. I'll see if I can cancel.

Booli
04-15-2015, 12:34 PM
You're certainly welcome. With your "plywood" complaint about the the natural, I'm surprised you chose it over the flame maple (one of my favorite looks).

I liked the look of the flame maple better, but installing the strings through the soundhole is a PITA without the trap door in the back of the body.

Literally fishing a wire down into the string hole from the top, and then pulling it out the soundhole, and taping the end of the wire to the end of the U-Bass string, and then stuffing it all inside the uke and gently trying to pull it all out the string hole. Too many times the tape came off, and I tried 4 different kinds of tape before I had success with the brown plastic shipping tape. All of this trouble is despite having enlarged the string hole diameter, with multiple incrementally larger diameter drill buts, as large as I could without sacrificing the structural integrity of the top or the bridge.

I did it with my conversion project and ran out of good profanity before I was done, so wanting to avoid repeating that experience, the grain patterns on the natural plywood model are a lot less offensive to me than the zebrawood model, which I thought looked more like the 1970's wood wall paneling. The model I ordered seems figured in a more of a 'wave'-type pattern than just the black grain lines of the zebrawood veneer, which is softer to my eye.

Plus, I'm curious to see how they did this trap door in the back, as I'd like to copy it and put a trap door on the back of the conversion instrument. However, since this is a task that requires great finesse in the cutting of the hole, I am more comfortable using a 2.5" hole saw with a hand drill on a slow speed, than using a dremel to cut out an area of that size by hand.


BTW, that preamp is not Fishman, it's Chinese made that I've used on my ukes, I like it.

Thanks for clarifying that. Knowing how many ukes and basses you have, this helps me rest easy that it's not total crapola. :)


I know how xAS can take hold, I came very close to ordering the Hofner AND the Rickenbacker builds, but that's been squelched for the time being with the Rondo Hadean, I just don't know how long.

and in a future post...you will of course detail that experience - I look forward to seeing it.


I actually had the Traveler gig bag modified with an extra large front pouch to fit my 13.3" tablet I use just for music, and added a pouch on the lower back side to hold my modified music stand (a conversation unto itself). My Bruce Wei u-bass fits perfectly and it has some removable padding, I see no problem with the Hadean.

Thanks for that info. If Empire Music in Canada has the Uke-Crazy style canvas covered hardfoam baritone cases in stock, and are still priced ~$39 USD, I might opt for that if the one I have here fits the Hadean. The added rigidity is a plus in my book, and a bit more protection that a floppy gig bag can provide...and I'm not concerned with air travel yet, just protection maybe in/out of the car if/when necessary and in the closet when not being played or hung on the wall.

They are out of stock at the moment for the bari-sized, but have the other sized cheaper than every other vendor I've found online for such a case:

http://empiremusic.net/index.php?route=product/isearch&search=ukulele%20case&description=true

I've also ordered this Kala baritone case from Sweetwater for $43 (with free shipping) in the past, that works well:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BariUkeCase


Hey!!! I just looked at your string sale link and found Thunder Red bass strings for $23, I couldn't find any on the internet when I searched yesterday, so I ordered them direct from Aquila Italy for $47, crap!!!. I'll see if I can cancel.

Thanks for clicking that link. Each order earns me points that I can use for future purchases.

I've found the Aquila RED Thundergut strings available online at quite a few online vendors, including SAB as well as Amazon, but with my link (IIRC 5%?) and the current 15% off you can get a decent discount on them from SAB.

For future reference, here are some other links to them for sale:
(note that prices vary widely, and none are cheaper at the moment than using my link to SAB and their 15% off, sorry if this seems like I'm a shill, but I'm really just a happy customer of Strings and Beyond [SAB] and trying to recoup the small fortune I've already spent testing all kinds of uke and classical strings over the past 18 months)

http://www.elderly.com/accessories/items/ABU91.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Aquila-Thunder-U-BASS-Strings-91U/dp/B00HSV78PY/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1429136163&sr=1-1&keywords=aquila+91u

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xaquila+th under+red+strings+91U.TRS0&_nkw=aquila+thunder+red+strings+91U&_sacat=0

kohanmike
04-15-2015, 03:21 PM
Thanks for all the links Booli. I received a processing email from Aquila in Italian and replied that I want to cancel the order. I hope they get it and understand.

For my u-bass from Bruce Wei, I had him enlarge the sound hole so my hand could fit, but it's still awkward, having an access panel on the back is a good idea, makes it so much easier.

Booli
04-15-2015, 03:59 PM
Thanks for all the links Booli. I received a processing email from Aquila in Italian and replied that I want to cancel the order. I hope they get it and understand.

For my u-bass from Bruce Wei, I had him enlarge the sound hole so my hand could fit, but it's still awkward, having an access panel on the back is a good idea, makes it so much easier.

Yeah, I hate that I cant get my hand inside any uke. I have no small children nearby, nor with the manual dexterity required to help me, and at times I've thought of getting one of those robotic arm kits and mounting a pinhole camera with an LED light to it somehow, in order to be able to work inside the instrument, but it seems like a lot for that purpose. Much like a Rube Goldberg contraption LOL.

Can you go on their web site and login and look at your order history?

When I've gone to aquilacorde.com it seems they have an automatic script on the web site that sets the language to English via internet gelocation of your IP address being from the USA, allthough some deeper parts of their site are only in Italian. If you can get into the order history or send them a message right on the site via their 'Contact' page and include your order number, maybe that will be effective as well?

FYI: you can go to Google Translate via https://translate.google.com and copy the Italian text from your email and then paste it into the box and then hit the 'translate' button and it should auto-recognize the source language, and then render it into broken English, in like a 4th-grade reading level.

Once you see what it says, you can also do the reverse, by typing your intended message in English, and having Google translate into Italian, and copy/paste both the English and Italian text into your email, and they should be able to make sense of it.

I've seen Mimmo of Aquila post here on UU in English, and in many of his youtube videos he speaks in English with a nice an very thick Italian accent which is quite musical in itself, so hopefully they can understand your intent...:)

kohanmike
04-15-2015, 04:05 PM
I actually went to the web and did a translation, definitely rudimentary. I'll try their web site as you suggest.

kohanmike
04-15-2015, 07:12 PM
Just got a reply that my order is cancelled. Great, now to make the the order from your link. Done, thank you.

Booli
04-15-2015, 07:25 PM
Just got a reply that my order is cancelled. Great, now to make the the order from your link. Done, thank you.

Thanks, and make sure to use the code 15OFF to save another 15%, just like I did last week, and likely will do again after I receive the Hadean basses and then the STRING TESTING BEGINS!!!

Sadly I cannot find the Pyramid Tapewound UBass strings, nor the La Bella Tapewound UBass strings anywhere now. They were all the rage like 9 months ago, and now none of the string vendors are selling them. :(

I found a thread on talkbass about regular scaled bass tapewound strings that was over a thousand posts, but going through all that is like seeking a needle in a haystack... Hob JAMMIT!!! :(

kohanmike
04-15-2015, 07:35 PM
I already made the order, damn I can't believe I didn't heed that in your signature, what a dope I am.

kohanmike
04-16-2015, 03:50 AM
I just got another reply from Aquila Italy that the order was not cancelled and has been shipped, of which I was not notified at the time, very disappointing to see that they are not more together. I won't order direct from Aquila again.

Booli
04-16-2015, 04:34 AM
I just got another reply from Aquila Italy that the order was not cancelled and has been shipped, of which I was not notified at the time, very disappointing to see that they are not more together. I won't order direct from Aquila again.

Sorry to hear that. I guess they don't capische.

On the bright side, you'll have plenty of string sets for your U-Bass instruments. :)

kohanmike
04-16-2015, 04:42 AM
At an average cost of $35 a set, oh well.

Booli
04-16-2015, 11:28 AM
!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3PM UPS delivered the Hadean sunburst solid-body Bass Uke. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First impressions:

1. It's visually BETTER than the online photos - the sunburst colors and contrast really SNAP.

2. Cosmetically there are no obvious flaws other than a tiny 1mm ding in the back of the neck @ the 14th fret, right exactly where you might rest your thumb (which does not bother me at all), aside from that it is as new, and was shipped double-boxed -NICE:)

3. Plugged in to my Kustom Sienna 30 acoustic amp (12" speaker), the preamp output on the Hadean is VERY HOT output. I had the Sienna only on 2 with the Sienna's preamp circuit OFF, and had to turn the bass EQ on the amp down to about 2 (normal is 5 for a uke), to prevent the speaker from getting some breakup, not distortion but physical breakup....

4. This things GOT TONE! The treble and bass controls on the Hadean have quite an effective range, I'd say +/- 12db on their respective frequencies. Just messing around I was able to get some warm tubby reggae tones, some growling electric-sounding tones, as well as rolling off the bass most of the way, almost gives a real 'woody' upright bass tone...also very NICE...

5. Since this will be used for recording 90% of the time now, it seems that it will serve my purposes well. Upon first play it seems to be quite versatile....maybe the other acoustic Hadean uke bass that is on it's way is redundant? NAAH, one acoustic and one electric BOTH for 80% of the price for ONE Kala Rumbler U-Bass - can't beat that with a stick.

Very Happy right now :) but I have other stuff to do before dark. I will be playing it more later. The acoustic Hadean uke bass is scheduled to be delivered on next MON by UPS and I have 2 sets of Aquila RED Thunderguts on the way from Strings and Beyond that will be arriving shortly as well.

More later...

katysax
04-16-2015, 01:12 PM
I ordered the Hadean both solid and acoustic when they first came out. I sent back the solid; I thought the acoustic was a good buy for the money. The thing is that I have a Kala California UBass and even my Kala SubUbass has pretty much gathered dust since I got the California. Whereas nothing seems to cure my UAS, the California UBass that I've had quite a while now seems to have cured any BAS that I have. If I got another Bass it would be another California UBass. I love to play the bass, but to me the bass is a tool. The California UBass does the job. With ukes I like the uke as a thing in itself, not just as a tool to make music.

kohanmike
04-16-2015, 03:30 PM
I'm really looking forward to receiving the solid body Hadean next Tuesday. I have my Gold Tone, which satisfies the acoustic side for me, and of course the two steel string magnetic pickups for that side of the bass world. As you can see, they're not just a tool, but for enjoyment too, especially customizing. The acoustic u-bass fretless custom from Vietnam is in the closet for now until I can fix up the amplification.

I'll be playing the Gold Tone at the Santa Monica Ukulele Festival Saturday at 1 pm. Katysax, will you be playing bass with the Westside Ukulele Ensemble at 2:30?

Nickie
04-16-2015, 03:42 PM
OMG, Mike, these basses are sooooo cute! Especially the Paul McCartney one.....O....M....G! Makes me wish I'd kept my ubass and modded it!
I really think modding ukes is just as much fun, maybe more fun than buying them. I'll put up pix of my latest mod as soon as I get my computer outta the shop. (This is my work craptop, and I do mean Piece of Crap)

Nickie
04-16-2015, 03:52 PM
Booli, I just saw that bass. I like it! How much?
I need a wedding gift for my Sweetie.....

Booli
04-16-2015, 05:00 PM
Booli, I just saw that bass. I like it! How much?
I need a wedding gift for my Sweetie.....

Hi Nickie,

I just got the sunburst solid-body model today. It was $149 plus $12.22 for 2 day UPS.

The Natural-wood acoustic one is set to be delivered on this coming Monday, and price was the same.

I like it a lot. You can see them at the links below:



blue - http://www.rondomusic.com/ukbe22bl.html,
sunburst - http://www.rondomusic.com/ukbe22sb.html,
white - http://www.rondomusic.com/ukbe20wh.html,
natural - http://www.rondomusic.com/ukbe22n.html


the acoustic ones can also bee seen here:
http://www.rondomusic.com/camp.html

Looks like I got the last sunburst model in stock and I'm very happy with it. I've wanted a Uke-sized bass for a long time now and have been waiting for these to become available at the same time when I have the funds.

FYI, the solid-body model fit perfectly in the Lanakai baritone HARD BAG case that I have, so I'll be ordering another one of these:

http://lanikaiukuleles.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/FHB-367x705.jpg
http://lanikaiukuleles.com/product/lanikai-sidekick-printed-ukulele-hard-bag/

(bought off ebay for $43 + free shipping)

It does NOT however fit in the canvas-covered hardfoam Uke Crazy case because the uppor 'horn' is too long.

You can get one of these Hadean uke basses from the links above, but you cant have mine- LOL - I'm keeping it (them) :)

bnolsen
04-17-2015, 02:30 AM
thanks for the bag test, good to hear you enjoy it. How is the intonation up at the 12th?

The preamp on mine uses 2 cr232 batteries and not a 9v. The range is still pretty good on the tone adjustment and it was slightly more flexible than the ashbory I had. I typically play bass full, treble about 50% to keep down finger noise.

Booli
04-17-2015, 03:03 AM
thanks for the bag test, good to hear you enjoy it. How is the intonation up at the 12th?

With the Thunderguts, intonation at the 12th is spot on for the E,A and G strings, but the D string is about 4 cents sharp. The only adjustment I made was to raise the bass side of the bridge (3x total screw rotations) to prevent the E string from rattling against the fretboard.

I'm digging the fact that the pickup is so sensitive (and seems balanced across all 4 strings evenly), and that there's lots of dynamic range depending upon your right hand technique...

But I'm finding the white Thunderguts to be a bit sticky...waiitng on the REDS to arrive....

bnolsen
04-17-2015, 04:40 AM
With the Thunderguts, intonation at the 12th is spot on for the E,A and G strings, but the D string is about 4 cents sharp

That's actually pretty good. Mine was ~10-12 cents consistently sharp. Just enough to drive me crazy and make me defret it. Actually I hope they do start selling these fretless and expand over into 5 string territory as well.

Nickie
04-17-2015, 05:10 AM
Thanks Booli.....when i can save up some dough, I think I'll order one for Tammy....she's been talking about it, saying she wished I hadn't given away my Ubass....

kohanmike
04-17-2015, 05:57 AM
Hey Booli, what color is the output jack, none of Rondo's photos show it. I think it may be black, which means I'll replace it with chrome.

PhilUSAFRet
04-19-2015, 12:23 PM
I haven't gotten a rubber stringed bass yet. Hadean may be on the horizon. I lucked on this little 34" Samick P bass style.

kohanmike
04-19-2015, 03:00 PM
Phil, I looked and looked at that, but because I have two steel string solid bodies with magnetic pickups I decided to hold, glad I did now that I ordered the poly string Hadean.

bnolsen
04-19-2015, 05:13 PM
I haven't gotten a rubber stringed bass yet. Hadean may be on the horizon. I lucked on this little 34" Samick P bass style.

hard to go wrong with a good old pbass. I did have rondo music sx ursa1 pbass. I loved their pbass pickup on that but sold it since I went short scale. Now if rondo did a short scale 5 string pbass (with a non suck lowb) that I would seriously consider.

Booli
04-19-2015, 06:15 PM
Hey Booli, what color is the output jack, none of Rondo's photos show it. I think it may be black, which means I'll replace it with chrome.

Just seeing your message now @ 12am-ish, I can't check now, but will check and post info tomorrow...

kohanmike
04-19-2015, 07:39 PM
Great, thanks Booli.

Booli
04-19-2015, 09:18 PM
Hey Booli, what color is the output jack, none of Rondo's photos show it. I think it may be black, which means I'll replace it with chrome.


Great, thanks Booli.

I was able to get to it without disturbing anyone, and yes, the output jack on the sunburst solid-body Hadean bass uke is in fact black.

I replaced the strings with the Aquila Thunder REDS, and one thing I did notice is that the nut is very roughly cut, almost square slots and with very sharp edges. Not sure if I will sand or file them, or just replace the nut with a real Kala u-bass nut (I already have a few), or just leave it alone.

Also the clearcoat finish on the string holes on both the front and back seems to be starting to crack or peel every so slightly.

Seems like a dab of clear nail polish will be in order to touch this up.

Another thing I noticed is that the E and A tuners are smooth as silk, while the D and G tuners seem to be inordinately difficult to turn even when no string is installed. Loosening the screw for the button nor the gear seems to have any effect. Tomorrow I'll add a few drops of 3-in-1 oil to each worm gear, and into the shaft hole of each tuner's assembly and see if this helps, otherwise it seems it's just metal-to-metal that's grinding due to imperfect machining of the gears in the aluminum.

The sunburst and gloss finish on the body is otherwise very nicely done, and the back of the neck is either unfinished or done with a light satin coat, and either way is perfectly smooth other than the tiny ding I mentioned previously, which I can see only but not feel at all. The neck profile is very comfortable to play on, and it seems that this is a 'fast' neck.

Surprisingly, completely unplugged, there is decent enough volume for quiet practice, and you can FEEL both the body and the neck resonate as you play. Whatever actual woods they use are very musical to the ear, as well as by the feeling of the vibration in your hands when you play.

Despite the minor flaws, which I document here only since this is a NEW instrument, for the price, this Hadean uke bass is very well put together and I am actually quite impressed overall. Keep in mind though that I never played a real Kala U-Bass, but the Hadean feels great, and my feverish lust for a Kala SUB or California U-Bass has been completely purged and satisfied. :)

The acoustic Hadean uke bass is set to arrive today (Monday 4/20) via UPS sometime in the late afternoon, and I am really looking forward to it :music:

LDS714
04-20-2015, 08:33 AM
Sent my wife a link to those Rondos, her reply? "I think you need that." :cool:

kohanmike
04-21-2015, 01:45 PM
Hey all, I received the blue Hadean today, for sure the Thunderguts give off a lot of string noise, much worse than my Gold Tone did before I switched to Pahoehoe, I hope the yellow Pohoehoe don't suffer the same. I already started breaking it down for the mod; removed the black tuners, strap buttons, head plate truss rod cover, knobs.

Already have the chrome HipShot tuners and yellow Pahoehoe strings (also have Thunder Reds, 2 sets!, as an alternative), received the new chrome knobs, waiting for the chrome output jack, luckily the actual 1/4" female is chrome so I don't have solder anything, just change the nut and frame (even if it was black I would leave it, not to have to solder), just ordered a white truss rod cover. I'm laying out the template for the pickguards and the amount to cut off the horns.

http://www.fairfax67.com/images/Rondo blue bass pick.jpg

Booli
04-21-2015, 01:58 PM
Sent my wife a link to those Rondos, her reply? "I think you need that." :cool:

Seems like maybe :) she's a keeper!

Booli
04-21-2015, 02:04 PM
Hey all, I received the blue Hadean today, for sure the Thunderguts give off a lot of string noise, much worse than my Gold Tone did before I switched to Pahoehoe, I hope the yellow Pohoehoe don't suffer the same. I already started breaking it down for the mod; removed the black tuners, strap buttons, head plate truss rod cover, knobs.

Already have the chrome HipShot tuners and yellow Pahoehoe strings (also have Thunder Reds, 2 sets!, as an alternative), received the new chrome knobs, waiting for the chrome output jack, luckily the actual 1/4" female is chrome so I don't have solder anything, just change the nut and frame (even if it was black I would leave it, not to have to solder), still have to order a white truss rod cover, hopefully I can find the correct size. I'm laying out the template for the pickguards and the amount to cut off the horns.

http://www.fairfax67.com/images/Rondo blue bass pick.jpg

Sounds like it's coming along nicely.

One trick I've found, kind of by accident with both the Hadean solid-body sunburst model, which is now strung with the Aquila RED Thunderguts, and also with the Hadean acoustic model which still has the factory white Thunderguts, is that when I oiled the fretboard with the Dunlop 65 lemon-oil fretboard conditioner, that if you apply some lemon oil to the fat rubbery strings, it helps with the friction on the strings, and also reduced the finger noise quite a bit.

Now my strings are pretty slick and easier to fret and pluck. Not sure if this will hurt the strings over time, but for now it seems to make the feel better. I take no responsibility if anyone else does this and it eats the strings...early days yet...so I have no long term report. Proceed at your own risk!

Booli
04-22-2015, 08:33 AM
One trick I've found, ...d with the Dunlop 65 lemon-oil fretboard conditioner, that if you apply some lemon oil to the fat rubbery strings, it helps with the friction on the strings, and also reduced the finger noise quite a bit.

Now my strings are pretty slick and easier to fret and pluck. Not sure if this will hurt the strings over time, but for now it seems to make the feel better. I take no responsibility if anyone else does this and it eats the strings...early days yet...so I have no long term report. Proceed at your own risk!


Yes, replying/quoting myself here to update:

The fretboard oil has been either completely absorbed into the strings, or evaporated, and there is not really any evidence that it was applied. Strings are like they were before and 'out of the box.'

LDS714
04-22-2015, 10:07 AM
Already have the chrome HipShot tuners ...

How do the stock tuners compare to the hipshots?

LDS714
04-22-2015, 10:09 AM
Seems like maybe :) she's a keeper!

Absolutely! Not only that, but she is an outstanding crew chief and has been known to change out wheels on my race bike between races so I don't get my leathers dirty!

kohanmike
04-22-2015, 01:15 PM
How do the stock tuners compare to the hipshots?

The HipShots have a plastic and a metal washer inside at the base of each barrel shaft, the Rondo does not, I imagine to help keep the spool tight and stay in tune. I've stripped the Rondo to get ready for refinishing the headplate and adding the pickguards so I will not be able to test out my theory. Booli, how well do the stock black tuners stay in tune, any slippage?

Booli
04-22-2015, 04:32 PM
The HipShots have a plastic and a metal washer inside at the base of each barrel shaft, the Rondo does not, I imagine to help keep the spool tight and stay in tune. I've stripped the Rondo to get ready for refinishing the headplate and adding the pickguards so I will not be able to test out my theory. Booli, how well do the stock black tuners stay in tune, any slippage?

No slippage. As per the way these came strung, with the string end inserted into the hole at the center of the tuner, and then ~3 wraps on the tuner to pitch. As far as the funky double-twist knot shown in the Kala restringing video on youtube, none of that has been necessary, and other than about 5-10 cents of string stretch each day thus far, they seem to be just right.

However, like the tuners I bought from largesound.com, these unbranded stock tuners on both the solid-body and the acoustic Hadean uke bases appear to be identical to each other, and identical to those from largesound.com - maybe they are the same or from the same source?

Sadly, as such, both the D and G string tuners become difficult to turn and have some grinding as you get greater tension on the peg when you approach concert pitch...I really gotta get a few drops of 3-in-1 oil in there and see if it helps. This occurs on both the largesound.com tuners as well as the ones installed in both Hadean uke basses.

Can I ask where you bought the Hipshot tuners? Did you get them from Owen Holt of Road Toad Music or from Kala direct? I do not recall seeing chrome tuners of this kind for sale from either, and last time I checked the Hipshot web site, I could not find ANY u-bass type tuners at all listed (even as a reference).

Prior to finding them, I was going to make my own by getting some metal sewing-machine bobbin spools, and tack-welding them to regular bass or guitar tuners and then modifying them as necessary to fit the fat strings (of course I'd have to first buy a small welder and learn how to use it without burning down the house or inflicting bodily harm to myself - LOL), but now this is a moot point with the set of 4 tuners from largesound.com available for only $32 (in black only and 2R/2L config only).

kohanmike
04-22-2015, 04:49 PM
I got them from Owen, but he had to special order chrome direct from HipShot for $126, they told Owen I got the last chrome ones they had, found in the back of their warehouse. I'm very grateful that I got them, but they suffer the same problem of getting very difficult to turn when the string gets tight.

Booli
04-24-2015, 01:55 PM
I got them from Owen, but he had to special order chrome direct from HipShot for $126, they told Owen I got the last chrome ones they had, found in the back of their warehouse. I'm very grateful that I got them, but they suffer the same problem of getting very difficult to turn when the string gets tight.

Thanks for the info.

I can confirm that the smoothness and function of the tuners are greatly improved if you add a few drops of 3-in-1 oil to the tuners right where the worm gear meets the gear that turns the peg (it helps to have the strings face DOWN, and tilt the headstock DOWN so the oil runs INTO the gear assembly, instead of all over the wood).

After adding the oil I turned the tuners DOWN about 15 turns [detuned] (or one full rotation of the tuner peg) to make sure that the fresh oil gets into the big gear on the back, and then back UP to pitch, and going UP was so much easier, and no grinding or unexpected resistance (as was the case previously).

WD-40 may work as well, but despite having a spray nozzle and straw attached, I find the dispersal of WD-40 to make a mess with the high pressure of the compressed propellant, and rather not have to deal with the cleanup all over the headstock and neck from the dripping and overspray.

kohanmike
04-24-2015, 05:57 PM
Good info. I also discovered a thin piece of plastic in the gears of two tuners, and definitely going to do the lube job.

Just received the output jack, perfect. Next is the white truss rod cover plate. Boy this is fun, I'm going to have a unique Hadean.

LDS714
04-25-2015, 06:00 PM
I'll be pulling the trigger on a sold body within the next week, if I can find one in my price range that I think will be dependable for gigging. Unfortunately the California-made Kalas and even the Chinese ones are a bit more than I'm comfortable investing at the moment.

kohanmike - sorry to keep derailing your thread!

Booli - this probably isn't a fair question, but if I were to locate a Kala solidbody U-Bass (not one of the US made ones) for about $100 more than the Hadean, do you think the difference would be worth it? The Kala comes with a bag and a strap. For some reason, I get the feeling they may come from the same factory.

Booli
04-25-2015, 07:12 PM
Booli - this probably isn't a fair question, but if I were to locate a Kala solidbody U-Bass (not one of the US made ones) for about $100 more than the Hadean, do you think the difference would be worth it? The Kala comes with a bag and a strap. For some reason, I get the feeling they may come from the same factory.

Not sure I can answer to your query exactly, as I'd said in a previous post to this thread, I've never actually played a Kala U-Bass, however, as I also stated previously now having both the solid-body and acoustic Hadean uke basses, my lust for a true Kala, Gold Tone, Eddy Finn, Ohana, Ortega D-Walker brands of u-bass type instrument is now completely satisfied.

However, this interest may be rekindled when The Magic Fluke Company releases their Bass Fluke sometime in/after June as per their NAMM2015 info and the front page of their web site, which I also confirmed by telephone with 'Betty' when I called Magic Fluke last week. My guess is that the price will be AT LEAST $500. I am a HUGE fan of their instruments and have both a tenor Fluke (with solid koa top, rosewood fretboard and pegheds) and tenor Flea (walnut top with birch rosette, rosewood fretboard), as well as a concert Flea (black Lava model, birch top, plastic fretboard, Gotoh UPT-L tuners [self-installed]) and another tenor Flea (hibiscus red model, birch top, plastic fretboard) is in transit from Gryphon Strings in Palo Alto, CA and should be in my hands on Tues next week.

Keep in mind that my purpose for a uke bass might be different than most, for I am currently not a bass player in a gigging band (been there, done that), nor do I want to embark on a deep study of the instrument. My SOLE purpose is to have an actual instrument (as opposed to MIDI or software plugins) for songwriting/compositional purposes. There's too much of a 'disconnect' for me playing/writing bass parts with a piano-keyboard type controller.

Since taking up the ukulele 2 yrs ago (and now mainly tenor and baritone, seldom concert or soprano any more), I find a 34" long-scale bass nearly impossible to play -- it's not just the scale length or the string tension, but I've grown out my nails on the right hand and there's no adaptation of right-hand technique that makes sense for me (regardless of if I use tapewounds or flatwounds, either way my nails still get wrecked), also a larger (than uke bass) bass is heavy enough to dissuade me from using it. I've also tried several 32", 30" and 25.5" scale basses, and still a real PITA for me. Once upon a time I was pining for a Ned Steinberger electric upright, or a Stagg electric upright, but cant justify the cost in lieu of the Hadean uke basses, never mind that upright bass strings are over $100 per set (Thomastik-Infeld).

If it helps to know (with regard to my own satisfaction level with these Hadean instruments), I'll share that I'll soon be selling my 1986 sparkle-red Aria Pro II 34" scale electric bass with OHSC, as well as my much older 4/4-sized Kay upright acoustic bass. These Hadean uke basses are 'good enough' for my needs, and take up a lot less space.

As you've pointed out, no case was included from Rondo, and the Kala acoustic u-bass hard-case (rectangle-shaped, tolex over plywood) is 0.3" too narrow for the width of the lower bout, as well as a full 1" too short for the overall length of the Hadean.

Hope this helps. :)

kohanmike
04-25-2015, 07:36 PM
Just to throw another direction in the works, at NAMM I saw an acoustic u-bass prototype being shown by Boulder Creek/RipTide that they said would be out by June. Great looking, and is supposed to be around $500. I took a quick photo.

http://www.fairfax67.com/images/Boulder Creek u-bass.jpg

Booli
04-25-2015, 07:51 PM
Just to throw another direction in the works, at NAMM I saw an acoustic u-bass prototype being shown by Boulder Creek/RipTide that they said would be out by June. Great looking, and is supposed to be around $500. I took a quick photo.

http://www.fairfax67.com/images/Boulder Creek u-bass.jpg

Thanks for the info. This one has a body shape that looks to me to be inspired by a Fender Tele, and interesting to see that they are using bridge pins for a uke bass with those superfat strings - LOL :)

kohanmike
04-25-2015, 08:18 PM
The Telecaster look really caught my eye, I would even go so far as to add a Tele style pickguard, and for sure change the strings to black Pahoehoe. I think it has the same preamp as my Gold Tone MicroBass had, which I would also change to the Joyo I put on my MicroBass.

kohanmike
04-26-2015, 07:23 AM
Just to show everyone how caught up in acquisition syndrome I am, last night after I posted on another thread about buying one of these Hadean basses to use for parts on a custom cigar box build the person wants to do, I got to thinking about the first post I made here showing my mockups of the Rickenbacker and violin basses.

One of the things that held me back from ordering either of those was that they would be steel string magnetic pickups, I already have two like that. I like the sound and feel of the Pahoehoe so much that I realized I should buy another solid body Hadean and at some time in the future, bring it over to my luthier who's going to modify my blue Hadean, and have him build a violin body and use all the parts from the Hadean; bridge, electronics, neck, etc. I just ordered a sunburst one, yep, I'm infected.

bnolsen
04-26-2015, 07:50 AM
you should be able to just purchase some tuners, a piezo saddle and some preamp and build a full bass from parts. However it might still be cheaper to get that 129usd + shipping hollow body hadean and part it out...

kohanmike
04-26-2015, 11:36 AM
I'm just after the neck, head and electronics, with them it should be easy for my luthier to make a solid body violin style, it does not have to be hollow or semi-hollow for me. Here's a mockup I just did, 20.75" scale, 34" long, 10" wide.

http://www.fairfax67.com/images/Violin bass solid red705.jpg

Booli
04-29-2015, 08:22 PM
I'm just after the neck, head and electronics, with them it should be easy for my luthier to make a solid body violin style, it does not have to be hollow or semi-hollow for me. Here's a mockup I just did, 20.75" scale, 34" long, 10" wide.

http://www.fairfax67.com/images/Violin bass solid red705.jpg

That's gonna be like a Mini Beatle-Bass!!! AWESOME.

Then you gotta dig in and learn some of Paul's bass lines for their songs. The Beatles have a good range of styles, and Paul's bass lines are not too complicated...

I just noticed that Rondo is ALSO selling these Hadean uke basses on Amazon now, see here:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_sr_musical-instruments?ie=UTF8&field-brandtextbin=Hadean&node=11091801

Seems like there are many in stock at the moment. Let The BUYING frenzy Begin!

kohanmike
04-29-2015, 08:40 PM
Yep, been considering one for a few weeks, but to do a shorty steel string with magnetic pickups seemed like a lot, then I realized using all the parts from a Hadean would be a great way to go. My bass teacher has been showing me a few Paul runs, including "Day Tripper" but I've also been doing my own arrangements, like on "Yellow Submarine" and "When I'm 64" for The CC Strummers uke group I'm with.

Booli
04-29-2015, 09:04 PM
Yep, been considering one for a few weeks, but to do a shorty steel string with magnetic pickups seemed like a lot, then I realized using all the parts from a Hadean would be a great way to go. My bass teacher has been showing me a few Paul runs, including "Day Tripper" but I've also been doing my own arrangements, like on "Yellow Submarine" and "When I'm 64" for The CC Strummers uke group I'm with.

That's great! Dont forget "Eight Days A Week" and "She Loves You" which are both great bass and ukulele duets, and both songs (along with a few others are in 'The Daily Ukulele' book by Liz & Jim Beloff if you have it, so no need to go searching for the music :)

kohanmike
04-30-2015, 05:08 AM
Thanks for that Booli. I've gone completely paperless so I don't have music books anymore, so I'll see what I can find online.