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GrumpyCoyote
03-14-2009, 12:28 PM
I can't find a dang Guitalele in the US - at least not a production model. :wtf:

Anyone have one gathering dust? I'll pay cash or consider trading my k-wave tenor if the models are comparable prices.

laietildaend
03-14-2009, 01:33 PM
:shaka:here u go brah
http://en.euroguitar.com/guitar/yamaha/guitalele/119272.html:shaka:

Kanaka916
03-14-2009, 01:39 PM
ChiyoDad ordered one from Canada and the contact info can be found here (http://chiyostrings.blogspot.com/2007/06/ordered-yamaha-guitalele.html). Good Luck!

Ukulele Friend
03-14-2009, 05:35 PM
Aloha GrumpyCoyote,

Not sure if this is still available but here's one up for sale in the Los Angeles area but an the seller may be willing to do an online sale.

Try dropping him/her a line.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/msg/1067815324.html

hope this helps,
Shawn

http://ukulelefriend.com

experimentjon
03-14-2009, 06:30 PM
Oh man, I had wanted a Guitaralele at one point too.

They had the Yamaha ones in Tom Lee Music stores in Hong Kong (biggest music store chain in Southeast Asia), and I asked how much they were, expecting them to be $120 USD or so. They told me 240 HKD, which comes out to about $30 USD. I was pretty shocked, esp since Tom Lee has awful prices, especially for US instruments, which see markups on top of the already high MSRPs for Fenders and Taylors and Gibsons and what not. But that Guitarelele was the one well priced thing they did have. But I didn't buy it because it didn't come with a case, and I didn't quite want to have to lug it onto the plane. I sort of regret not buying it now. Oh well.

Best of luck on your search.

GrumpyCoyote
03-16-2009, 10:10 PM
Aloha GrumpyCoyote,

Not sure if this is still available but here's one up for sale in the Los Angeles area but an the seller may be willing to do an online sale.

Try dropping him/her a line.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/msg/1067815324.html

hope this helps,
Shawn

http://ukulelefriend.com

Dang - expired... Soooo close too. Thanks though.

GrumpyCoyote
03-16-2009, 10:14 PM
Oh man, I had wanted a Guitaralele at one point too.

They had the Yamaha ones in Tom Lee Music stores in Hong Kong (biggest music store chain in Southeast Asia), and I asked how much they were, expecting them to be $120 USD or so. They told me 240 HKD, which comes out to about $30 USD. I was pretty shocked, esp since Tom Lee has awful prices, especially for US instruments, which see markups on top of the already high MSRPs for Fenders and Taylors and Gibsons and what not. But that Guitarelele was the one well priced thing they did have. But I didn't buy it because it didn't come with a case, and I didn't quite want to have to lug it onto the plane. I sort of regret not buying it now. Oh well.

Best of luck on your search.

Crap - I was just over there in HK/Macau a couple of months ago. It never occurred to me to look for one there - I was pretty obsessed with getting a good deal on a new laptop (scored too) and instruments never crossed my mind.... 240 HKD!!! Darn it, could buy a handful and sell 'em here for that kind of dough:p. Not going back 'till next year at the earliest.

vahn
03-20-2009, 08:59 PM
I, too, have been hearing call of the Guitalele for a while now. I've tried to buy several from europe but because of that recent merchant hacking (the one that jeopordized a bunch of CC#s) my card is on high security and I can't seem to get the order processed. I've found this though, sold in the US, a czech guitar manufacturer named Strunal sells multiple sized classical guitars, including 1/4 (guitalele size). There a bit more than the guitalele (though close with the reduced shipping cost), and while still laminate, I'm hoping for decent quality.
http://elderly.com/images/new_instruments/28N/AG1-4-MAH-GLOSS_front.jpg

Heres the one at elderly, out of stock at the moment, but I paid for mine and hopefully they come in April 1st as expected. It was under 200

Heres the link: http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/AG1/4-MAH-GLOSS.htm

430mm scale length, so about tenor scale, laminate mahogany back and sides, lam spruce top. Not too shabby IMO I'll let you know how it is when I get it.

dominicfoundthemooon
03-20-2009, 09:55 PM
hummmm is this the same idea as the Koaloha D6 its just a ukulele with 6 strings and tuned to a guitar.. ?

vahn
03-21-2009, 01:10 PM
essentially yes, there all about the same, tenor scale 1/4 size classical guitars. Tuning would depend on the strings, since the czech model doesnt mention tuning there is a possibility that its tuned to a guitar, EADGBE with kindergitar strings from germany (1/4 scale classical strings, one way to get a guitalele in standard tuning) but otherwise the strings are usually regular classical guitar strings, tuned up a fourth (like capo'ing the fifth fret) like Ukulele, with 2 "bass" strings, ADGCEA (the D6 and guitalele). This is the same tuning as the mariachi requinto, a 1/2 size classical guitar a little bigger than a baritone uke.

Kanaka916
03-21-2009, 03:17 PM
hummmm is this the same idea as the Koaloha D6 its just a ukulele with 6 strings and tuned to a guitar.. ?
Actually, the guitarlele was out before the D-VI. KoAloha designed and built one for Daniel Ho and decided to make it a production model. The cost of a D-VI is about 1K+ and the guitarleles available on the market are under $500.

dominicfoundthemooon
03-21-2009, 03:22 PM
Actually, the guitarlele was out before the D-VI. KoAloha designed and built one for Daniel Ho and decided to make it a production model. The cost of a D-VI is about 1K+ and the guitarleles available on the market are under $500.

cool.. i was in the Koaloha Factory and got to play the D-VI and it sounded AMAZING! i remember that i played few other 6 string ukes here on the mainland.. and they sounded like toys.. i have never played the guitarlele.. but i know the Koloha is worth the cash.. if you got it!

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Lori
03-21-2009, 07:02 PM
Another site with the Czech Republic 1/4 size guitars, as well as some others...http://www.smallguitars.com/results.php?CategoryID=26

Anyone have one of those Strunals, how do they compare to Yamaha?

And then there's the Kanile K-1 Guitarlele MSRP $1295. Anyone know what the "real" take home price is on that? If you buy from the factory, are you paying MSRP?
http://kanileaukulele.com/custom_guitarele.php?osCsid=86379ace94a69d79eb3d47 f4ff6259dc

Or how about the steel string "Octave Guitar"?
http://www.shop.com/Octave_Guitar-19992376-p!.shtml

–Lori

vahn
03-22-2009, 04:35 AM
Yeah i found another place with Strunals in stock- meantone, and they have the student concert 1/4 size with solid cedar top for $166. https://meantone.com/Shop/SolidTopGuitars.shtml
I ordered it, and the gigbag, it came to less than $200. I let you guys know how they sound. Also anyone own a Requinto? those are the 1/2 size nylon guitars tuned up a 4th to ADGcea and i think there a bit bigger than a baritone. I found a cool acoustic electric cutaway for $225 with a solid top, seems like a pretty good deal.

Update: Got my strunal 1/4 size classical guitar in the mail today. If anyones looking for a guitalele IMO this is not much more for a solid cedar top instrument. I am comparing it mostly to my Lanikai O-8e 8 string solid spruce top tenor uke.

They are pretty similar in scale length, holding it nut to bridge the strunal is about 5-10 mm longer, which just means a bit more tension in the same strings and tuning. the body is a bit larger than than the lanikai, and while I don't own a baritone uke I imagine it to be a pretty similar body size, if maybe a bit smaller.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/vahn84/Strunal002.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/vahn84/Strunal003.jpg

The guy who sold it to me said that it was tuned like a regular guitar, not ADGCEA so at first I thought maybe it came with a set of 1/4 size nylon guitar strings. But when tuning this up after getting it I stopped very briefly on E for the low string, plucked, felt the tension and the horrible buzzing hum of a wound nylon dropped way to low and quickly tuned up to G, then A. Great sucess. Plus you can tell by the wind job on the tuners that these are full size classical strings, which luckily come into guitalele/requinto tuning on this scale length (ADGCEA) which is what I was looking for. I may get 1/4 scale strings for EADGBE tuning, but if so that would be after I get a 4 string tenor. (8 string is great for chords, but doesnt cut it for solo stuff, so this little guy is great)

Like my Lanikai 0-8e, its a solid top tenor scale with laminate back and sides, slotted headstock and classical tuners. The Lanikai is Ovankal laminate back and sides with solid spruce top, the Strunal Mahogany laminate back and sides with solid cedar top. As you would imagine from the woods, and the larger construction of the 1/4 size classical, the Lanikai has a bright loud high reentrant tone, and the cedar has a mellow warm middle end tone, which when played with the lanikai seems rich and almost deep. They are comperable in looks but I must admit that I dislike a couple things on the strunal. The fretboard woodgrain is just wierd, as if it was milled at a wierd angle or left ruffed a bit so the saw marks show, and the bridge also. The tuner pegs at the top are cheap plastic looking so the tuners may be the first to go. All in all though, I'm pretty satisfied. The top 2 strings are clear nylon, the bottom 4 wound, but I may just swap out the top 3 for unwound aquila tenor CEA strings.

The gigbag that came with it looks cool, padded backpack style, will fit any tenor uke, which is a plus because I was using my Guitar Hero Guitar case up till recently, which has only one wussy pad in the middle (its made for 2 GH guitar controllers, but fits 1 ukulele) but unfortunately a strap clip on the backpack shoulder strap broke already. Good thing it has a lifetime warranty. And I have a different strap anyway I'll probably just use.

All in all I would say that is exactly the value and build quality that you would expect out of a ukulele in this price range, perhaps a little better, with a wide classical style fretboard and 2 "bass" guitar strings. As a guitar player turned Uke player, this guy is a must have for all my half-ukulele, half guitar songs that I couldnt figure out which instrument to play it on. The nylon strings allow me to bring my ukulele strokes into play and still have that full guitar chord sound of a classical, with the higher tuning syle of Uke. A set of 1/4 scale strings quickly converts this guy into probably one of the best travel guitars you could get for the money, Idk how "portable" some of those full scale small bodied travel guitars are, or how they sound but this intrument has a nice mellow tone, suprisingly deep.

haolejohn
03-26-2009, 11:27 AM
I just got off the phone with Mele Ukulele on Maui and they have some in stock. THeir mahaghany guitarlele is under $700. Barely and they do have one on sale that had a finish blemish. Check them out. I love their ukuleles.

uke4chris
03-26-2009, 01:21 PM
Tangi makes one as well, since his shop is closing you may get a deal.
http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1118&stc=1&d=1238109633

haolejohn
03-26-2009, 01:44 PM
Good luck getting a response from Tangi though.

Lori
03-26-2009, 06:12 PM
Vahn–
Thanks for the review! Very interesting. If anybody else owns a guitarlele, I would like to see their review too. I didn't realize you could get strings for tuning a 1/4 guitar to EADGBE. That is a nice option if it works!

I wonder how the guitarlele compares to the 1/4 size guitar? Can it also be strung to EADGBE? Is a guitarlele really a wide neck baritone sized uke, or is it closer to a tenor size? Speaking of baritone ukes, could they also be strung to GCEA with a low g?

Cheers,
–Lori

vahn
03-27-2009, 03:26 AM
Vahn–
Thanks for the review! Very interesting. If anybody else owns a guitarlele, I would like to see their review too. I didn't realize you could get strings for tuning a 1/4 guitar to EADGBE. That is a nice option if it works!

I wonder how the guitarlele compares to the 1/4 size guitar? Can it also be strung to EADGBE? Is a guitarlele really a wide neck baritone sized uke, or is it closer to a tenor size? Speaking of baritone ukes, could they also be strung to GCEA with a low g?

Cheers,
–Lori

Lori, A couple answers that I could help with. You can find 1/4 size nylon guitar strings for 17", 440-450mm scales (tenor scale) Also it's worth mentioning to anyone that wants Baritone tuning on a tenor, that you can use the top 4 strings of this set for baritone tuning on a tenor (DGBE).
http://www.juststrings.com/lab-114.html?productid=lab-114&channelid=FROOG
Another thing I think would be interesing, for somone with an extra uke and a bass player friend, would be to string it with the bottom 4 strings, (EADG) for bass accompanyment without someone having to learn uke notes/chords. Of course, this would be in the guitar octave range, not bass, but its the equivalent to having someone play the basslines on guitar, which I do sometimes when jamming on ukulele.


Looking at Guitalele specs, it has a 17" 450mm tenor scale. I have seen a vid of someone playing guitalele in EADGBE tuning so those strings should fit no problem. Guitalele specs also show a overall lenth of 28.7" 73cmm, which would put it slightly longer than a tenor. Looking at everything I would say it is probably pretty close to my 1/4 classical, tenor scale with a larger baritonish body, for a slightly deeper than ukulele sound.

Heres some Baritone GCEA strings. I think they are low G but you can ask the seller at the link.

http://cgi.ebay.com/AQUILA-BARITONE-UKULELE-STRINGS-AECG_W0QQitemZ370175766824QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item370175766824&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

ChiyoDad
03-27-2009, 08:24 AM
Actually, the guitarlele was out before the D-VI. KoAloha designed and built one for Daniel Ho and decided to make it a production model. The cost of a D-VI is about 1K+ and the guitarleles available on the market are under $500.

This is correct, but my Guitalele cost me about US$125 from Canada, shipping to California included and Canadian VAT waived.

Call Long & McQuade's per the instructions on my blog and check what they have in stock. They were the cheapest dealer that I found after calling several shops in Western Canada.

As for tuning to EADGBE, I haven't been satisfied with any of the strings for 1/4 guitars. The Guitalele either sounds tubby or the wound 3rd string gets annoying.

Good luck!

ukulelebadass
05-29-2009, 04:12 PM
Galveston makes one that they call a six string ukulele, but it's really a guitalele, and is super cheap (70 bucks)

here:http://www.oddworldmusic.com/product/VJ_1100?meta=FRG&utm_source=GBASE&utm_medium=CPC&utm_content=&utm_campaign=

I haven't seen any reviews for it but their guitars get splendid reviews, and for 70 bucks plus shipping how can you go wrong? I've played one of their dreadnoughts and it was pretty nice sounding.

GrumpyCoyote
05-29-2009, 04:56 PM
Galveston makes one that they call a six string ukulele, but it's really a guitalele, and is super cheap (70 bucks)

here:http://www.oddworldmusic.com/product/VJ_1100?meta=FRG&utm_source=GBASE&utm_medium=CPC&utm_content=&utm_campaign=

I haven't seen any reviews for it but their guitars get splendid reviews, and for 70 bucks plus shipping how can you go wrong? I've played one of their dreadnoughts and it was pretty nice sounding.

Looks interesting until I hit this:
"Retail Price $49.99"

And yet I get the privilege of paying $70? Odd. Good find though, I'll call them in the AM.

Thanks!

cocohonk
06-08-2009, 03:12 AM
And I have a pretty stupid question, hope someone can help me with it. When I was playing with the guitalele, I noticed it was much easier to press the strings on the left than the uke (though, it's a cheap one with mediocre strings) I have. Is that normal? I've never played a guitar (or a good uke) before, so am curious about this whole tension thing.

Oh, and what is the GL1 made out of? I asked the guy at the store, but since there were no tags hanging from the guitalele, he shrugged his shoulders. :D

fumanshu
06-08-2009, 06:32 AM
cocohonk wrote:
And I have a pretty stupid question, hope someone can help me with it. When I was playing with the guitalele, I noticed it was much easier to press the strings on the left than the uke (though, it's a cheap one with mediocre strings) I have. Is that normal? I've never played a guitar (or a good uke) before, so am curious about this whole tension thing.

Oh, and what is the GL1 made out of? I asked the guy at the store, but since there were no tags hanging from the guitalele, he shrugged his shoulders.

Hi cocohonk, I also found that with the GL1, it,s very to play all along the fretboard and I think this is due to the very very low action on it.

But I have to say that the action on the GL1 are not the same from one to the other. I do own 3 GL1 and they all have different actions.

There's 1 major problem with the ones with the very very low action though, it's that the sound may sound very thin and unstable from fret 1 to 5. Using hard tension strings may help to resolve the problem but even with them, the sound is kind of metallic and thin and the tone is very hard to get stabilise.

I have one Gl1 like that and it's a very tricky instrument to play with.

Other than that, I love the GL1.

I do also own a Koaloha D-VI and this one sounds very very nice... The bottom end of it is way way better than the GL1.

As for what the GL1 is made of, the top is solid epicea (kind of family of spruce) and sides and back is Meranti.

Hope this help

Thanks

WS64
06-08-2009, 07:29 AM
fumansho, I have two Guitaleles, and know two others pretty good. The action is all the same on all 4 of them. I usually can't even tell which one I'm playing. About the sound being thin, well, it is compared to a guitar. Not to a ukulele, though. And in a more or less complex arrangement (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq_4llf1CjI) I actually prefer the sound not filling everything...

danged
06-08-2009, 08:42 AM
I can't find a dang Guitalele in the US - at least not a production model. :wtf:

Anyone have one gathering dust? I'll pay cash or consider trading my k-wave tenor if the models are comparable prices.

Mele Ukulele in Maui also makes one and it sells for $899. Here's a link to the website, call them and speak to Cheryl; http://meleukulele.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?page=2

cocohonk
06-10-2009, 07:39 AM
Thanks for the info, fumanshu! So I guess the action has much more to do with individual instruments rather than a particular model then.

GrumpyCoyote
06-19-2009, 10:46 AM
Thanks all. I just "settled" for this requinto guitar (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0026NTTH4/ref=asc_df_B0026NTTH4825435?smid=A3T8PCEX6SRF7K&tag=nextag-mi-mp-delta-20&linkCode=asn) (thanks Vahn and others for the requinto guitar suggestion). I like this idea for a number of reasons:

1) It's "uke" tuned - so one fourth above a standard guitar, or just like my beloved tenor with two extras :)
2) Nylon strings - I have my share of steel. I'm kind of done with them.
3) 1/2 size, just a bit bigger than a baritone - I may regret not holding out for a smaller size, but...
4)...it's only $99US with my free shipping - so not a big deal either way

Again, thanks all - great ideas.

I'll post a review and of course vids when it gets here (next week they say).

Lori
06-20-2009, 05:53 AM
Congrats on the Requinto! I will be very interested to hear it! That's a pretty good price for an experiment anyway.
–Lori

Link
06-23-2009, 01:38 PM
I hope you post vids, maybe I'll get one if theyre any good.

GrumpyCoyote
06-23-2009, 02:23 PM
Shipped from the shop! Now the endless trip across country and the ever watchful eye for the fancy fed-ex truck.