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sculptor
07-31-2015, 11:56 AM
I'm looking for a comprehensive music theory book. I've purchased a nooby music theory book but I'd like to get the complete picture because that's the kind of guy I am. Hell, I write genetic algorithms using Monte Carlo simulations to just rebalance my 401 stock portfolio so I really like to go off the deep end. ;)

sculptor
07-31-2015, 04:43 PM
Beware what you're asking for: most comprehensive books use formal music analysis, including a Roman numeral based system that is different from the relative notation often used by guitarists to note progressions in a key-independent fashion. In particular, formal theory is heavy on detailing inversions and analyzing the consequent voice leading, and the notation assumes you know the default quality of a chord from the mode and scale degree of the chord's root. That sort of theory would glaze anyone's eyes.

A book I've been going through is The Jazz Theory Book by Mark Levine. If you're interested in the usage of advanced chords, it's a pretty good treatment, and it sticks with the familiar chord notations. But for a number of reasons, I can't recommend it to others with much enthusiasm.

Chord construction is pretty easy to understand, as is how to decipher guitar chord names—you can pick that up from musictheory.net, Wikipedia and other online sources.

If you want to learn to play any chord, given its name, and in any region of the fretboard, I recommend Sokolow and Beloff's Ukulele Fretboard Roadmaps. I've developed what I think is a more complete, and in some ways simpler, system by building on their models, but it was their book that made the bulbs light up. Lots of other good stuff in their book as well.

The real difficulty is figuring out how and when to use all the fancy chords, and, of course, training your ear to hear them and to analyze the harmonic structure so you can give a chord its proper name—the same set of pitches can be heard as several different chords, but generally, only one of those chord names will make musical sense in the given passage—and sometimes the root of that chord isn't present in the chord as played. No matter how well you write algorithms, there's no substitute for ear training. Jim D'Ville has online lessons in ear training, though I don't know if they get into complex chords and their usage.

Thanks for the information, all of which is good. So do you know the name of any said eye glazing works or not? :confused:

CeeJay
07-31-2015, 04:54 PM
I'm looking for a comprehensive music theory book. I've purchased a nooby music theory book but I'd like to get the complete picture because that's the kind of guy I am. Hell, I write genetic algorithms using Monte Carlo simulations to just rebalance my 401 stock portfolio so I really like to go off the deep end. ;)

Coo...I draw cartoons on the table cloth using Mansfield Town characters ,get shouted at for it by the missus, then clear off and play long complicated cacophonies on my instrument just to rebalance my equilibrium ....is that similar ? ;)

sculptor
07-31-2015, 05:02 PM
Coo...I draw cartoons on the table cloth using Mansfield Town characters ,get shouted at for it by the missus, then clear off and play long complicated cacophonies on my instrument just to rebalance my equilibrium ....is that similar ? ;)

Ummm... I'll let you know after I read my comprehensive music theory book... :shaka:

sculptor
08-05-2015, 11:28 AM
Two classics:
Harmony. Walter Piston.
Craft of Musical Composition 1: Theory. Paul Hindemith.

I'm sure more accessible books have been written since my college days.

The Piston book rings a bell and it seems to be reasonable. I looked at the Hindemith book reviews on Amazon and it looks more like it's slanted towards modern atonal music so I have my doubts about its usefulness.

I found this on Amazon: The Complete Musician: An Integrated Approach to Tonal Theory, Analysis, and Listening by Steven G. Laitz. Any thoughts on its content?

DWUke
08-13-2015, 10:24 AM
I'm looking for a comprehensive music theory book. I've purchased a nooby music theory book but I'd like to get the complete picture because that's the kind of guy I am. Hell, I write genetic algorithms using Monte Carlo simulations to just rebalance my 401 stock portfolio so I really like to go off the deep end. ;)

If you are not adverse to learning via computer try these FREE resources
- http://www.musictheory.net/lessons
- http://www.daveconservatoire.org
- https://www.coursera.org/course/musictheory
- http://www.socraticmethod.net/music_theory/

Enjoy!

DWUke
08-13-2015, 10:29 AM
Perhaps not eye-glazing, but explains chords from a ukulele perspective - http://www.amazon.com/Mel-Bay-Understanding-Ukulele-Chords/dp/0786672153

strumsilly
08-13-2015, 10:38 AM
Perhaps not eye-glazing, but explains chords from a ukulele perspective - http://www.amazon.com/Mel-Bay-Understanding-Ukulele-Chords/dp/0786672153
that's the one I just got after a workshop on spicing up jazz chords. a thin book that I may never master. some theory, but only in the service of becoming a better player. not much extraneous. my kind of book.

CactusWren
08-13-2015, 04:37 PM
This one will keep you busy a few years:

http://www.amazon.com/Hearing-Writing-Music-Professional-Training/dp/0962949671

actadh
08-19-2015, 03:36 AM
This one by Tony Mizen is very good -

http://www.amazon.com/Learn-Finger-Style-Ukulele-Music-Theory/dp/150068144X

johnson430
08-19-2015, 06:53 AM
I like free things. Here is a link to Berklee's Music Theory:
https://welcome.online.berklee.edu/music-theory-handbook.html

Handbook Topics

Counterpoint 101
Understanding Reharmonization
Master the Basics of Rhythm
The Theory Behind the Blues
The Intricacies of the 7th Chord


You need to sign-up but it is free. Free! Free! Free!

They also have other resources as well here:
http://online.berklee.edu/handbooks

johnson430
08-19-2015, 01:12 PM
More free stuff on a large google drive folder.
Tons of music theory books available. Also has books on guitar, piano, bass, songwriting, Jazz, ear training and other music books available as well.
All for free!
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByfjF4lv2MJKYkU1MGxGdUpfczQ&usp=sharing

Enjoy this awesome and FREE resource.
Johnson