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Jeffelele
09-04-2015, 05:50 PM
My question is: Does it matter to people who put up videos if those videos are seen within the forum or would it be better to them if they were watched on YouTube where they would be counted as views and giving a thumbs up if appreciated?

I try to remember to go to YouTube and give a thumbs up if I like the video. Also, YouTube lets me see if there are related videos I'm interested in.

I don't always remember to do this so I thought I'd ask if anyone who is a YouTube poster had an opinion.

It does seem to me that I see videos with less views and more likely less thumbs up than the UUF comments would suggest.

Any opinions?

Jeff

ohmless
09-04-2015, 06:43 PM
IMO the best online complement someone could give is in the form of a Youtube comment, encouragement or a critique. As a person who does youtube, I honestly barely look to see how many thumbs up I have, but I do respond kindly to all comments. I am loose and probably hit the like button for every video I watch in case the creator cares about those types of things. haha

ohmless
09-04-2015, 06:44 PM
and I forgot to mention I do click over to watch it on youtube as you said to either comment or to hit a related link afterwards.

bird's eye view of my ukelele
09-04-2015, 06:56 PM
i'm with ohmless on this, it's nice to get comments, it's interaction and a bit of chit chat, plus you know who it's from... thumbs up, and indeed thumbs down (which i am no stranger to!) whichever way, up or down, it's anonymous.

as a viewer i know i might very well forget to click the thumbs up, it doesn't mean i didn't like it, it just means i forgot!

so comments mean more, but thumbs up are nice, and for vids where i have thumbs down, it's nice if they are outnumbered by thumbs up!

but ultimately comments are much more personal, i feel

Tootler
09-04-2015, 08:14 PM
It's nice to get them but I don't check them most of the time. I tend to go straight to the comments page.

Luke El U
09-04-2015, 08:26 PM
Only here in the northern hemisphere do they matter. In places below the equator, down under like Australia, they are thumbs down and don't matter. (In Ecuador they're neutral.)

Hippie Dribble
09-04-2015, 09:16 PM
I don't watch many but when I do - and I know they are UUers - I always thumbs up.

At the start I used to be hung up on getting likes; as though they were a talisman for if I was any good or not. Not a good way to think and only ends up fuelling more self esteem worries and mitigating any chance of building self confidence.

Years down the road I've come to a much different place and tend to use the yootoob thing more a personal diary. I find satisfaction in learning a song and being able to play it. I've snubbed my nose at the world generally and could care less what people think any more in all aspects of my life. That goes for outside affirmation too.

kypfer
09-04-2015, 09:36 PM
In this modern world, where it's considered a no-no to make a negative comment ... "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything! ... I suspect any like/dislike poll will be skewed to the "thumbs-up" simply because if one doesn't like something, it's just as easy to close the window as it is to find the "thumbs-down" button.

A positive comment is always nice :)

coolkayaker1
09-05-2015, 02:28 AM
Do thumbs-up likes matter? This is a great question. I'm curious if anyone knows the answer beyond the "feels good" because, it was my impression that those with monetized YouTube channels get paid for thumbs-ups, no? I know they get paid for views, but many will ask "Please give this a thumbs up" in words or overlay...these are big time channels with many subscribers. Do thumbs-ups translate to paid views? Anyone with real answer or experience of a monetized channel, please chime in. Thanks.

caspet
09-05-2015, 03:40 AM
Likes and dislikes are useful to the viewer as likes get saved to a separate folder for easy re-viewing and dislikes assist in filtering out videos which would otherwise be pushed to you in the related videos feed.

Brian_the_electrician
09-05-2015, 03:49 AM
In this modern world, where it's considered a no-no to make a negative comment ... "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything! ... I suspect any like/dislike poll will be skewed to the "thumbs-up" simply because if one doesn't like something, it's just as easy to close the window as it is to find the "thumbs-down" button.

A positive comment is always nice :)

Ah yes, but the modern world of the internet is filled with trolls who have license to make ignorant and ugly comments behind a veil of anonymity. (Read the comments section of a CNN news article sometime, it could cause you to give up on humanity!)

I don't do Youtube because I have seen the comments section of very good musicians filled with garbage and I would rather not have to spend time managing that. How do you deal with the trolls? Maybe it is less of a problem than I think?

When I was a more actively gigging musician I had a word press page to promote my band and solo act and I turned comments off.

Debby
09-05-2015, 04:08 AM
Ah yes, but the modern world of the internet is filled with trolls who have license to make ignorant and ugly comments behind a veil of anonymity. (Read the comments section of a CNN news article sometime, it could cause you to give up on humanity!)

I don't do Youtube because I have seen the comments section of very good musicians filled with garbage and I would rather not have to spend time managing that. How do you deal with the trolls? Maybe it is less of a problem than I think?

When I was a more actively gigging musician I had a word press page to promote my band and solo act and I turned comments off.

That's part of the reason why I keep my videos unlisted.

kohanmike
09-05-2015, 04:39 AM
I like having my videos directly in the thread to make it that much easier for someone to view it, and they can always click the link on the video to go to the YouTube page. I get notified by email when a comment is added and I save all my video links to my bookmarks.

ohmless
09-05-2015, 04:45 AM
That's part of the reason why I keep my videos unlisted.

Let me tell you that in the almost two years that I have been making videos I have had maybe two negative comments left on my videos, and I don't even consider myself very good(actually lousy as a singer.) So IME you don't get flamed very badly when they are public.

Debby
09-05-2015, 04:52 AM
Let me tell you that in the almost two years that I have been making videos I have had maybe two negative comments left on my videos, and I don't even consider myself very good(actually lousy as a singer.) So IME you don't get flamed very badly when they are public.

Negative comments from strangers wouldn't really bother me. I would shrug those off as "words on a screen." It's comments from people I have known for 20+ years that make me nervous...whether or not they are positive or negative.

Jacman Rasta Bicycle
09-05-2015, 05:26 AM
Only here in the northern hemisphere do they matter. In places below the equator, down under like Australia, they are thumbs down and don't matter. (In Ecuador they're neutral.)

:rofl: good one Luke!

I almost never vote a thumbs down on anything. If I dislike something I just move on.

CactusWren
09-05-2015, 05:27 AM
How about:
yes, it matters to pros/teachers who are trying to generate some visibility for their business/art/etc;
yes, it matters to some people who will feel better when they get lots of likes;
no, it doesn't matter to some people for a variety of reasons.

Tootler
09-05-2015, 09:01 AM
Let me tell you that in the almost two years that I have been making videos I have had maybe two negative comments left on my videos, and I don't even consider myself very good(actually lousy as a singer.) So IME you don't get flamed very badly when they are public.

That's pretty much my experience. I think i've had just three negative comments and only one of those rankled. It wasn't the fact it was negative but the reasons given. I can't remember the details now but it niggled.

One I felt was fully justified criticism. It was a video where I felt, on reflection I hadn't done the song justice so I took it down.

I've had a few thumbs down but they've been very few too and don't worry me at all. It's just a matter of personal opinion.

The possibility of negative comments doesn't bother me on the whole. It's a hazard you can expect if you put yourself out there.

Tootler
09-05-2015, 09:03 AM
I like having my videos directly in the thread to make it that much easier for someone to view it, and they can always click the link on the video to go to the YouTube page. I get notified by email when a comment is added and I save all my video links to my bookmarks.

Email notifications of comments on You Tube seem to have stopped recently.

PeteyHoudini
09-05-2015, 01:44 PM
I've never understood those thumbs up.

YouTube still emails me when people comment on my vids. Sometimes, I can't reply on YT and I don't understand that. I do have a G+ account.

When you put your vids out there, you've got to be ready to take all comments. I've been doing YT vids since 2009 so I've had my fair share of good and some bad. Mostly good. I have deleted a troll or two before. I never tell anyone to subscribe. I'm not looking for views. I'm mostly enjoy getting another video project done and uploaded. It's fun. I do find it like a strange diary of my ukulele beginnings. I can see what ukes I was playing back in 2009, how I changed ukes over the years, how my playing got better, and how I changed from doing folk songs to reviews to song projects to tutorials.

Petey

AndrewKuker
09-05-2015, 03:28 PM
The thumbs up and comments both will get a video a higher chance to be seen in the related videos section on the side of other videos, and featured more by youtube in various sorts of ways.

People do not make money from likes or comments though. That is something covered by views, and not just views but you have to actually watch the commercial beyond the few seconds where you are allowed to skip for the personal YT channel to actually make money.

I have had many people try to get me to monetize our videos through the years but I just don’t want to. I don’t want that commericial in the beginning and links at the bottom and all that. Takes away from the experience IMO. Sometimes when the performer does a cover they will monetize it anyway though, to give a fraction of the proceeds to the original artist, or more likely a corporate record company.

As far as the comments, who cares. The best and most talented artists of any kind get dissed by haters. So if you are criticized…well, you’re in good company.

One other point though, I think it is kind to any website that allows an embedded video, especially ones like this, to actually put the video here, versus just a link. Keep people here. Once they are of to youtube, if they are like me, they may get caught into the vortex of that site and all there is to see and hear and never make it back. Linking off from here to somewhere else is less advantageous to the kind people providing this format and community discussion. That’s my feelings at least. No big deal to anyone though I'm sure.

Btw, Petey, you can disable the automatic emails from youtube. I did from the beginning. Email gets clogged enough with insignificance.

Debby
09-05-2015, 03:34 PM
I always click on the video title and get directed to youtube so that I can comment. If I hit the play button in the thread, I can't comment. -That's how it is from my iPhone.

PeteyHoudini
09-05-2015, 04:05 PM
The thumbs up and comments both will get a video a higher chance to be seen in the related videos section on the side of other videos, and featured more by youtube in various sorts of ways. this format and community discussion. That’s my feelings at least. No big deal to anyone though I'm sure.

Btw, Petey, you can disable the automatic emails from youtube. I did from the beginning. Email gets clogged enough with insignificance.

Aloha Andrew,

Thanks for the great info and I agree totally with you. Interesting about monetization. I avoided monetization like the plague. Never knew how it worked and wanted no part of it. My vids are just my song projects or tutorials to help others. Making visitors see useless ads is insane. Anyway, 99% of my vids are public domain stuff anyway or my own originals.

Due to your advice, I will continue to embed any new video of mine on YT here. Thank you. Your writing style sounds a lot like Sherlock from one of my fav. shows "Elementary." hehe

cheers,

Petey

Stevelele
09-06-2015, 06:57 AM
I think that thumbs down do have an impact. I posted a few uke reviews, and they weren't very good. Got a few thumbs down--it didn't hurt my feelings or anything like that, but it also didn't encourage me to create any more reviews.