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Picker Jon
09-23-2015, 09:10 AM
Hailing fron the UK I have browsed the Ukulele Cosmos forum and decided to join. I registered, activated my account and wrote an introductory post which I was notified had to be approved before it would be posted on the board. That was three weeks ago and it hasn't appeared. I have emailed 3 moderators to find out if there has been a problem but all my emails have been ignored and I can't post anything else until the first post is approved.

Does anyone know if Ukulele Cosmos is still active or if they have a particularly rigourous selection policy?

Pukulele Pete
09-23-2015, 09:30 AM
I know that first post approval takes longer than you would think. I joined about a year? ago it took a long time for first approval. It seemed to me that not alot was happening
in the Ukulele Cosmos so I lost interest.

Tootler
09-23-2015, 11:21 AM
I've joined some time ago but not made my first post. I lurk occasionally. It seems to be generally much less active than UU.

I took a look. The last three intro posts were posted end of June/ beginning of July but the first replies weren't till early August. One of the replies commented on the time it was taking for first posts to be approved and it seems that the mods are not very active themselves. Not good in my view.

Walker78
09-23-2015, 12:41 PM
Same here. I registered ages ago and do log in from time to time but it's always the same old threads, not much going on. I suppose I'm as guilty as anyone tho for not posting on there. UU is the only forum I visit daily. Well, ten times a day, maybe more!

PeteyHoudini
09-23-2015, 02:00 PM
I used to post once in a while on Cosmos. I joined there in 2010. That was a year before I joined UU in 2011. Just checked and I could log into Cosmos. There's things going on there. Never had any issues with the place. Seems they take a long time to approve a new member though.

I was mainly on a German and French uke forum since 2008/09. Then I was on Cosmos here and finally there. However, I'm mainly on UU now. Getting too lazy in my old age to flit about all the forums. hehe

Petey

Hippie Dribble
09-23-2015, 02:07 PM
I joined last year. Same issues. Posted a few things and found they had to be approved first...So I waited. And waited. And waited.

There is so little going on it seems like a waste of time to me. UU is all over it in every possible way. I gave up. Weeks to receive approval for making a simple, garden variety post? You must be kidding. Sure fire way to turn people off. Guess that's part of the reason why there are tumbleweeds rolling through the ghost town of that site.

ukulelekarcsi
09-23-2015, 09:21 PM
I don't agree. It is worth the waiting.

The reason for the long admission times is that it was plagued by a few trolls around two years ago, and it's the labour of love of Alli B., who gets no income whatsoever out of the forum.

There are less frequent posts on it than here or the new French forum, but the quality of the threads makes up for it: witty, knowledgeable, ...

Hippie Dribble
09-23-2015, 09:33 PM
I don't agree. It is worth the waiting.

The reason for the long admission times is that it was plagued by a few trolls around two years ago, and it's the labour of love of Alli B., who gets no income whatsoever out of the forum.

There are less frequent posts on it than here or the new French forum, but the quality of the threads makes up for it: witty, knowledgeable, ...
Three weeks to approve a single post? That doesn't qualify as a labour of love in my thinking.

pabrizzer
09-23-2015, 10:36 PM
I go there and it has its ups and downs.
It did take a long time to get approved.
They have a song of the month thing where everyone has a go at the same song.
Only three takers this month. So yes the tumble weeds blow and the crickets chirp.
It has a different feel to UU.

ukulelekarcsi
09-23-2015, 11:51 PM
Three weeks to approve a single post? That doesn't qualify as a labour of love in my thinking.

No, it's only the first post (in fact, forum admission) that takes that long - once you're in, posts don't need any individual approval anymore.

The Fleamarketmusic Bulletin Board (FMM) is rather deserted. Especially the Uke Yak 'ask the expert' section...

phil_doleman
09-24-2015, 01:53 AM
Well said Bill. I'm a regular on the Cosmos. It is run by one person, who as well as having a job and a family also plays in a couple of bands. It does take a long time to get approved sometimes (and approval had to be added in order to stop the spammers), but once you're in, you're in. It's a completely different beast to UU. Many of the members know each other well in the real world, as the Cosmos has an annual gathering, and therefore the posts are much more like old friends talking to each other than they would be on a regular forum. It's also a UK forum (though it welcomes anyone), so uke sales, gigs, etc. tend to be UK-based.

Picker Jon
09-24-2015, 03:19 AM
Thanks, looks like the delay is normal then, although on the intro it does say it only takes a short time. Because of that, I thought my post might been lost or overlooked and my email enquiries weren't at all impatient. It's certainly a different way of moderating a forum to what I've come across before. Still keeping my fingers crossed!

Tootler
09-24-2015, 06:07 AM
Most forums I've been on have a team of Moderators so that issues can be dealt with quickly. It sounds like Ukulele Cosmos would benefit in the same way and I noticed when I checked earlier today that there were members expressing a willingness to help out.

I appreciate that trolls and spammers are a pain in the proverbial but the delay in approving first posts could well be putting people off joining in. I appreciate life can get in the way sometimes but I would have thought that there was a need to check in weekly at least to deal with things.

coolkayaker1
09-24-2015, 07:00 AM
Hailing fron the UK I have browsed the Ukulele Cosmos forum and decided to join. I registered, activated my account and wrote an introductory post which I was notified had to be approved before it would be posted on the board. That was three weeks ago and it hasn't appeared. I have emailed 3 moderators to find out if there has been a problem but all my emails have been ignored and I can't post anything else until the first post is approved.


It must be asked: did you do something to piss them off? :D

Picker Jon
09-24-2015, 08:49 AM
It must be asked: did you do something to piss them off? :D

Haha! No nothing at all, my post was polite and uncontroversial and entirely about my uke playing interests. My email enquiries to the mods were polite and straightforward as well. That's why it seems so mysterious to have heard nothing.

coolkayaker1
09-24-2015, 09:26 AM
Haha! No nothing at all, my post was polite and uncontroversial and entirely about my uke playing interests. My email enquiries to the mods were polite and straightforward as well. That's why it seems so mysterious to have heard nothing.

Indeed, I'm sure that is true, PJ.

The surest way to get a rapid response: email them with a request to buy their entire website for its current market value.

No man can resist enough offered cash to buy a medium cola and a chicken sandwich.

pabrizzer
09-24-2015, 05:33 PM
I have been told that at the moment the Cosmos is without Mods.
The soul purpose of mods there is to ok new members. Hence the slow admission time.
Mods don't get involved in what is posted therefore the place does have a different feel and people do express themselves freely.
I hang out there and am getting used to the vibe I think.
Not for the feint of heart but the more people who get through the admission wait the less tumble weeds there'll be.

Picker Jon
09-25-2015, 07:19 AM
Ah OK. Looks like I shouldn't expect things to happen soon then. Maybe they should put a note on the registration or intro page about that rather than just keeping new members hanging on. I see from the members list that nearly 50 people have joined since July but none of them have any posts, so presumably haven't been vetted yet.

Picker Jon
09-27-2015, 05:23 AM
Actually...I don't think I'm in that much of a hurry to join now...

http://i59.tinypic.com/345ynly.jpg

lakesideglenn
09-27-2015, 05:38 AM
Believe me...you're not missing anything.

YorkSteve
09-27-2015, 06:07 AM
Like a lot of places (pubs, offices, train stations) some people are fine, others maybe an acquired taste. And there are definitely some I have never acquired the taste for.

CeeJay
09-27-2015, 06:19 AM
And they wonder why people don't like the Cosmos.....that's one of his milder rants and there are more than he..

You guys thought my posts were bad !!!

Hippie Dribble
09-27-2015, 08:12 AM
Their "dislike" of the UU is renowned.

ScooterD35
09-27-2015, 08:36 AM
I joined that site a few years ago and just lurked a bit to get a feel for the community.

At some point, in an inexplicable James Hill bashing thread, someone chimed in dissing our first Uke New Jersey! because we had James there and we advertised the festival with a very positive attitude towards new players. Mind you, this person admitted that they had not attended our event even though they lived in the same neighborhood. His post was met with quite a bit of approval.

As a result, I have never posted there. I simply don't associate the Ukulele with such negativity. What a shame...



Scooter

Tootler
09-27-2015, 12:50 PM
Their "dislike" of the UU is renowned.

Yes, I'd noticed the anti UU attitude among some of them. What's bugging them I wonder?

mm stan
09-27-2015, 12:57 PM
Well let them be....and stay in their own group, that fine with me :)

Nickie
09-27-2015, 01:23 PM
I used to go on there. Then they called UU negative. I don't hear any negativity, do you?

Mivo
09-27-2015, 01:28 PM
Well, their admin doesn't sound like a "cranky old geezer" to me, more like an "angry little kid".

Never heard of the Cosmos before, and I can see why. For me, UU covers all my ukulele forum and community needs anyway. You guys are great company, and I appreciate you. :)

pabrizzer
09-27-2015, 06:21 PM
Well, their admin doesn't sound like a "cranky old geezer" to me, more like an "angry little kid".


That was not their admin.
As I said the place is not for the feint of heart. Things are often posted just to provoke and get a reaction. Other times what seems like confrontational posts are banter between people who know each other.
As I also said, I hang out there as well as here, it's a bit like a rough pub. You have to stand your ground a little or bring a gang along.
Given that there are things that can't be discussed here I believe that the mahalo spirit is pretty contrived and relies on being able to call the sheriff or knowing that he/she is about.
No one over there tried to have one of my songs pulled from the forum.
Horses for courses I guess.
This is probably the dressage and the show jumping.
Over there is the rodeo and the camp draft.
I defend both places to an extent.
Thoroughbreds can be found in both places imho.
New blood would improve the cosmos considerably (again imho).
Whinging about each other is extremely lame!
My favourite place is The Seasons!

YorkSteve
09-27-2015, 09:47 PM
As I also said, I hang out there as well as here, it's a bit like a rough pub. You have to stand your ground a little or bring a gang along.

Yes, I like the rough pub comparison. There are some good people in there, and some you might not choose to sit with. And when some start shouting, you might quietly slip out of the door for a while. I don't see it as them and us. Just two different places to meet.

Mivo
09-28-2015, 12:33 AM
As I said the place is not for the feint of heart. Things are often posted just to provoke and get a reaction. Other times what seems like confrontational posts are banter between people who know each other.

I haven't been there, so I shouldn't generalize. I just commented on the post that was cited here in the thread, which to me sounded more angry than cranky. Not "Statler and Waldorf"-like, instead resembling more what I associate with juvenile Internet heroes who are drowning in their own testosterone. But text doesn't transmit intent and nuances very well, and the quote probably looks more stark when it's taken out of the social context.

Just doesn't seem my kinda place, and that's okay. Choice and diversity are good things.

AndrewF
10-30-2015, 12:26 AM
You see from J Boy a masterpiece of ironic writing and it's still not good enough for you?

Jeez, am I still a member? Hi, pabrizzer!

The Big Kahuna
10-30-2015, 02:47 AM
I like UC. They have little time for pomposity, hypocrisy or this fake and nonsensical "Aloha spirit". Go there and act like a "typical American" and you'll be carrying your head home in a bag.

UkuleleHill
10-30-2015, 06:27 AM
I like UC. They have little time for pomposity, hypocrisy or this fake and nonsensical "Aloha spirit". Go there and act like a "typical American" and you'll be carrying your head home in a bag.

This is essentially the same thing as starting a thread. Although not all know what your poking at, it won't be lost on me... Take a break, we'll see you on the 1st...

3) General Conduct - Please Don't:
3.7 Start threads to criticize moderator decisions such as bans and thread closures. If you have concerns over the way UU is run, then please contact us by private message.

Kahuna Nui
10-30-2015, 07:01 AM
This is essentially the same thing as starting a thread. Although not all know what your poking at, it won't be lost on me... Take a break, we'll see you on the 1st...

3) General Conduct - Please Don't:
3.7 Start threads to criticize moderator decisions such as bans and thread closures. If you have concerns over the way UU is run, then please contact us by private message.

You completely tragic little twat. I was merely commenting on UC, which is on-topic as far as this particular thread is concerned. You, however, are so determined to ban someone, you have deliberately chosen to interpret my comments as a continuation of the earlier thread. Maybe if I'd commented on a particular brand of strings, you'd have interpreted that as a personal attack on yourself too. You are a heavy-handed, piss-poor excuse for an admin, and I can only surmise that you're not getting any. Go **** yourself.

UkuleleHill
10-30-2015, 07:07 AM
You completely tragic little twat. I was merely commenting on UC, which is on-topic as far as this particular thread is concerned. You, however, are so determined to ban someone, you have deliberately chosen to interpret my comments as a continuation of the earlier thread. Maybe if I'd commented on a particular brand of strings, you'd have interpreted that as a personal attack on yourself too. You are a heavy-handed, piss-poor excuse for an admin, and I can only surmise that you're not getting any. Go **** yourself.

You clearly don't read the rules...

4) Membership Accounts:
4.1 Members may only have one active account/username, unless approved by an administrator. Creating additional accounts or aliases without admin approval is not allowed and may result in the offender being banned. If you have a problem logging into your account, please contact mods or admin rather than creating another account.
4.2 Banned individuals are not permitted to rejoin under new identities. Where we believe that we have identified a banned individual accessing the board under a new account, that account will be deleted.

Bob-in-Alberta
10-30-2015, 08:08 AM
I belong to both forums and they both have given me advice over the last couple of years. UU reminds me of sitting down and having a conversation with old friends while UC reminds me of having a conversation at work and realizing that you don't necessarily have to like everyone that you know. UC also reminds me that the loudest opinion isn't always the correct one.