sequoia
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This thread follows up on an earlier thread about how the depth of the sides effects the sound of the ukulele. It was sparked by a luthier (sorry I forget your name) who said that the ukulele needed to slim down and that the deep box depth of the traditional ukulele needed to be re-thought and that it could be much thinner. There was much theorizing about what would happen, but little evidence. So I built a ridiculously thin uke to see what it would sound like.
I figured that to find out what would happen, the experiment should be taken to an extreme so I made an uke with 1 1/4 inch sides. Much thinner than was desirable from an aesthetic, structural or sonic perspective in order to see how it effected the sound which could then be extrapolated to a more reasonable depth hopefully being able to maybe dial in a desired response and sound by varying the height of the sides.
I learned so much from this exercise I can't tell you. Basically it breaks down into two parameters. One, structural considerations and two, acoustic considerations. First the structural considerations:
Decreasing the depth of the box by decreasing the sides brings into some serious structural weaknesses. The whole box wants to to rack and it was immediately obvious how much the sides contribute to the integrity of the overall structure of the instrument and its strength. I'm no engineer, but my carpenter sense immediately sent up red flags that the box was dangerously weakened by making such a thin box.
I did not shore up the sides or reinforce the top since the whole point of the exercise was to build the uke exactly the same as the reference uke. The entire build was as close to building a duplicate as I can do using the same wood throughout and actually using a top out of the same billet. Top thickness was exactly the same as was the bracing as close as I could do it. I kept notes on the thickness of the top and thickness of the braces and replicated them as exact as I could. Same wood, same thickness on the top (exactly 72 by the way). The reference uke is as perfect sounding as I can build. Balanced with neither too much tenor or base. California bay laurel hard wood tops.
Immediate lesson among many I learned was as you decrease the depth of the sides is that you decrease the area that the neck attaches to the body. That neck volute is there for a reason and that the neck to body joint has to be strengthened proportionally as the area of the neck heal decreases. Many other considerations I won't go into, but didn't become apparent until I came across them.
OK. Lets cut to the chase and how did the thing sound. Beau said that the attack would be quicker on the tenor side he thought. I agreed and guess what? That is exactly what happened. The high side was emphasized with increased volume and separation and decreased sustain. In other words, clear trebles with nice seperation. The mids and base suffered however and the balance was drastically tenor. Not unpleasant however and the casual listener liked the sound. Personally I think this is going to make a great electric uke.
Conclusion: If you want to emphasize your high end end and increase volume and separation, decrease the box.
I figured that to find out what would happen, the experiment should be taken to an extreme so I made an uke with 1 1/4 inch sides. Much thinner than was desirable from an aesthetic, structural or sonic perspective in order to see how it effected the sound which could then be extrapolated to a more reasonable depth hopefully being able to maybe dial in a desired response and sound by varying the height of the sides.
I learned so much from this exercise I can't tell you. Basically it breaks down into two parameters. One, structural considerations and two, acoustic considerations. First the structural considerations:
Decreasing the depth of the box by decreasing the sides brings into some serious structural weaknesses. The whole box wants to to rack and it was immediately obvious how much the sides contribute to the integrity of the overall structure of the instrument and its strength. I'm no engineer, but my carpenter sense immediately sent up red flags that the box was dangerously weakened by making such a thin box.
I did not shore up the sides or reinforce the top since the whole point of the exercise was to build the uke exactly the same as the reference uke. The entire build was as close to building a duplicate as I can do using the same wood throughout and actually using a top out of the same billet. Top thickness was exactly the same as was the bracing as close as I could do it. I kept notes on the thickness of the top and thickness of the braces and replicated them as exact as I could. Same wood, same thickness on the top (exactly 72 by the way). The reference uke is as perfect sounding as I can build. Balanced with neither too much tenor or base. California bay laurel hard wood tops.
Immediate lesson among many I learned was as you decrease the depth of the sides is that you decrease the area that the neck attaches to the body. That neck volute is there for a reason and that the neck to body joint has to be strengthened proportionally as the area of the neck heal decreases. Many other considerations I won't go into, but didn't become apparent until I came across them.
OK. Lets cut to the chase and how did the thing sound. Beau said that the attack would be quicker on the tenor side he thought. I agreed and guess what? That is exactly what happened. The high side was emphasized with increased volume and separation and decreased sustain. In other words, clear trebles with nice seperation. The mids and base suffered however and the balance was drastically tenor. Not unpleasant however and the casual listener liked the sound. Personally I think this is going to make a great electric uke.
Conclusion: If you want to emphasize your high end end and increase volume and separation, decrease the box.