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kypfer
01-10-2016, 01:14 PM
Has anyone else seen this?

http://www.richtonemusic.co.uk/products/ibanez_ewp14wb-opn_2016_ovangkol_piccolo_debut.asp

They're advertising it tuned like a guitalele ADGCEA and with a 17" scale it's a similar size to a tenor ... might be of interest to someone :)

Rakelele
01-10-2016, 08:09 PM
Interesting find, thank you. Basically, this would be a Steel String Tenor sized Guilele / Guitalele...? I hope there's gonna be more of these around. Next to the Ovangkol, they also have a Spruce / Mahogany model.

bonesigh
01-11-2016, 03:26 AM
Hey, I like this. Thanks for sharing. One of my favorite ukes is an Ibenez Quilted Maple cut away shaped like this.....was my fav..until I ran over it with my car ]:

FiL
01-12-2016, 03:08 AM
So this is basically the same concept as a guitalele, but with steel strings and a slightly smaller nut width. Interesting. I wonder what it sounds like. I'm guessing somewhat tiple-ish.

- FiL

Camsuke
01-12-2016, 09:56 AM
Here's a video of a Piccolo Guitar, it's not an Ibanez but does give a good indication of how they sound.


http://youtu.be/n1h5c-IAvWY

Wicked
01-12-2016, 11:26 AM
I think I want one - but I don't see any sellers in the US.

Rakelele
01-13-2016, 03:58 AM
For those interested in - basically - a steel string Guitalele: Pono makes a small Parlour Guitar, which has a scale of 21.4" and thus isn't much bigger than a Baritone. The model is called 'Uku Li'i (or UL) for being so tiny, and it sounds great, being played here by someone quite familiar to Ukulele...:

http://ponoguitar.com/index.php/ul-30sp-small-body-parlor-guitar.html

Nickie
01-13-2016, 04:02 AM
Hey, I like this. Thanks for sharing. One of my favorite ukes is an Ibenez Quilted Maple cut away shaped like this.....was my fav..until I ran over it with my car ]•:

How did you run over it with a car?
Just curious...

bonesigh
01-13-2016, 05:25 AM
Ah, I was late getting ready for a local uke festival that my club was playing at so I asked my daughter to put my ukes in the car. There were 2 of 'em in my rolly pack the Ibenez and a concert eleuke. She put them behind the car instead. I walk around the front of the car when I get in usually so I didn't see 'em and idk why my daughter didn't remember/notice the pack. As I backed up I heard a weird sound and was like "What the...", then my daughter said......"The UKES!". Good thing I'm pretty good at keeping my calm cuz this was a big test!

The Ibenez was done for, headstock split in half and body very crushed. I was going to use it for parts and maybe even take the intact portion of the soundboard and use it for a home made uke. A friend of mine's hubby likes to tinker and so I gave him the uke to mess with and amazingly he put it back together and while it will never sound the same as it did (it was a special uke that just had "it") it makes a nice beginner uke now and is actually on loan to a neighbor. The Eleuke's neck got broken but the fretboard was fine. I leaned it against the corner of the doorframe slowly and carefully pushing it back into place and I'll be darned, it still plays good. Though it does have bandaids on either side of the fretboard so you don't impale yourself with the splinters! LOL!


How did you run over it with a car?
Just curious...

spookelele
01-22-2016, 05:56 PM
Apparently they call it ewp14 in the US

AMS has it

http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-IBA-EWP14-LIST

I expect it'll be coming to the big box centers shortly.

Rakelele
01-24-2016, 12:14 AM
Found a couple of demo videos for the Ibanez Piccolo Guitar. Sounds pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLsHnVQOVY8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8KRHo9_D4w

Model name of the Ovangkol is EWP14. They also have a Mahogany/Spruce limited edition (EWP15LTD) that has been around in European stores for a couple of months. Seems like the Ovangkol model will be in U.S. stores soon.

uke51
01-24-2016, 02:55 AM
As a steel string guitar player, I've been interested in Guilele's, & in 2014 decided to build a steel string version. My goal was to have it fit in a tenor uke case, making it easy to travel with. The body is tenor uke sized, scale length is 17.5", fret board radius of 16", "X" bracing for the top, & total length is 27". String spacing at the nut is 1 & 5/8" , and 2 3/16 at the bridge. This is about the same as the string spacing on a steel string guitar at the 5th fret & bridge, making it more familiar to my fingers.

I'm tempted to grab one of the Ibanez Piccolo guitars to compare the build...

8771287713 So the attached photos are the results of this whim.

ScooterD35
01-24-2016, 03:30 AM
The Ibanez is not the first such instrument. The Tacoma Papoose was introduced in the early 2000s.

The Papoose was actually a pretty blatant ripoff of the TommyHawk, created by NJ luthier Tom Barth. Tacoma stole not only the instrument design, but also Tom's advertising tag lines calling it "A little axe" that "satisfies the urge". With business practices like that, it's not surprising that Tacoma Guitars was a short-lived endeavor.


Scooter

spookelele
01-24-2016, 06:20 AM
thx for the vid links. Hopefully it makes it to the local shops so I can try it. It seems thinner sounding than I would have expected, compared to a Cordoba mini.. which i know is a larger scale and body, but I figured it would be more.. something with the steel strings. Wonder what it would sound like with the aquila guilele strings.

Rakelele
01-24-2016, 06:49 AM
Wonder what it would sound like with the aquila guilele strings.

I don't think that they would work very well. As the Ibanez Piccolo is built and braced for steel strings, I would suspect that nylon strings don't have enough power to drive the soundboard. But there are other nice options for a tenor sized guitalele, like the Kala KA-GL or the KoAloha D-VI.

Rakelele
01-31-2016, 01:58 AM
Ok, I got so curious about these Piccolo Guitars that I just ordered one (the "Limited Edition" Mahogany/Spruce model that seems to be available only in Europe and Asia). No high expectations at this price point, even the stock pictures show some rough edges. It will probably take a while to get here, but I'm planning to write up a short review.

Looks like the Ovangkol model (EWP14) has alredy hit the stores as well...

DownUpDave
01-31-2016, 03:10 AM
Ok, I got so curious about these Piccolo Guitars that I just ordered one (the "Limited Edition" Mahogany/Spruce model that seems to be available only in Europe and Asia). No high expectations at this price point, even the stock pictures show some rough edges. It will probably take a while to get here, but I'm planning to write up a short review.

Looks like the Ovangkol model (EWP14) has alredy hit the stores as well...

I love your adventurous spirit. It really is an attractive looking instrusment, I enjoyed the videos thanks for the posting those. The sound of it is very pleasant and reflects the piccolo name well.

I will look forward to your review. Now if they made one with 4 steel strings I could actually play one and might buy it. I did put South Coast classic metals on one of my tenors and I do enjoy the difference in sound.

Rtnrlfy
01-31-2016, 05:30 AM
My Ovangkol model arrived yesterday... I haven't had a lot of time to muck around with it as yet, but I was surprised by its weight, it's slightly heavier than I expected (not sure what I _did_ expect). I hope to have some time with it today. If nothing else, I'm hoping it can be a travel guitar for those rare work trips where I want to keep my hands loose.

Rakelele
01-31-2016, 05:43 AM
My Ovangkol model arrived yesterday...

Ha, Lesley, looks like we're on the same page, again! I would love to hear more thoughts and see some pictures of it...

kypfer
01-31-2016, 07:01 AM
I don't think that they would work very well. As the Ibanez Piccolo is built and braced for steel strings, I would suspect that nylon strings don't have enough power to drive the soundboard.

This isn't always the case. I've a Yamaha FG-Junior (JR1) guitar, which is (about) 3/4 size, 21" scale-length. It's sold with steel strings fitted and is designed for such, complete with truss rod (accessible through the sound hole). I fitted it with a set of appropriate (for the scale length) gauge nylon strings and it plays perfectly.

Just a note of interest ... obviously YMMV ;)

Rakelele
02-06-2016, 07:05 AM
My Ibanez Spruce/Mahogany Piccolo Guitar has arrived a couple of days ago. I think it's really cute, despite some minor finish issues, which I expected at this price. It's fun to play, but takes some getting used to, as string tension is high and the fretboard is really narrow (42 mm, like an Electric Guitar). Intonation is sharp, but I think that it could be improved by lowering the action at the nut.

Here's a comparison to the size of a regular Tenor (KoAloha Opio) and the Islander Guitalele, which is more like a Baritone in size:

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spookelele
02-06-2016, 10:41 AM
Nice. What do you think of the tone?

Rakelele
02-07-2016, 05:11 AM
Nice. What do you think of the tone?

It has that distinctive sparkle and sustain of steel strings, not as mellow as what we are used to hear from an Ukulele. For most Uke players who would like to make the transition to six strings, I suppose a regular nylon string Guitalele would be easier on the ears and fingers. A steel string Guitalele offers a completely different sound and feel, though, and I wish more companies would start making them.

Rtnrlfy
02-07-2016, 08:52 AM
I'm still getting acquainted with mine (the ovangkol version) but so far I'm finding it a bit challenging to adjust to the smaller scale combined with six strings. Oddly enough, switching up between different ukes (I have four different scales of uke in my herd) never throws me but this has. I'll keep at it though - we're going away next weekend and this is likely accompanying me for some down-time practicing.

Rakelele
02-13-2016, 09:48 PM
For those interested, I posted a review with my first impressions here (http://forum.ukuleleunderground.com/showthread.php?118605-Review-of-the-Ibanez-Piccolo-Guitar-(Tenor-Sized-Steel-String-Guitalele)).