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Timbuck
06-25-2016, 10:34 PM
I have an overwhelming desire to own one of these(TAS again):drool::iwant:, but for the life of me I can't think of any special job that I could use it for when building ukes. Can someone enlighten me?
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/proxxon_zps1qhhnaz3.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/shiregreenbod/media/proxxon_zps1qhhnaz3.jpg.html)

mikeyb2
06-25-2016, 11:20 PM
with your jig building skills, I think fret slotting!( assuming a suitable blade would fit)

Sven
06-25-2016, 11:28 PM
I have the earlier model and I use it a lot. Mostly for slotting fretboards and making saddle slots. They have a 0.5 mm blade that suits fretwire. I used to shape bridges on it but I use a hand plane for that now, the prettiest wee no.1 you ever saw.

But in short, Proxxon makes great machines.

Timbuck
06-26-2016, 02:32 AM
Mmmmm! you got me thinking again now Svennie ..my shop built fret slotting set up is a bit antique looking and it's been churning out fretboards for the last six years...it can't last much longer..can it ;) I'll have to get a better excuse than that tho to get the deal passed Mrs Timbuck.

Sven
06-26-2016, 06:07 AM
This is an exact copy of my model, since I think Proxxon discontinued it. Seems as if it's made in Japan and cheaper than the Proxxon. You wouldn't wanna import it from the States tho - not with the pound reduced to silly money.

http://www.micromark.com/microlux-mini-tilt-arbor-table-saw-for-benchtop-hobby-use,7500.html

Timbuck
06-26-2016, 08:37 AM
Well I've broken down and bought one..I found one on the Internet at the right price in the UK..and now it's on the way to our house...Mrs T is not around at moment so I haven't told her yet......Next post will most likely be from "the Doghouse" :uhoh:

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
06-26-2016, 09:17 AM
I ,too, have tried to justify buying that saw. I do have their mini chop saw for cutting braces and it's a well built machine.

Timbuck
06-26-2016, 10:08 AM
I ,too, have tried to justify buying that saw. I do have their mini chop saw for cutting braces and it's a well built machine.
The main reason I bought it was when saw the video of one in action making thin strips..then I thought that's just the dogs knob for making bindings in wood or plastic ;)
Dogs knob ..(rhyming slang meaning job)

lauburu
06-26-2016, 12:11 PM
Fret slotting, braces AND binding. How much more convincing will Mrs T need?
Miguel

Timbuck
07-01-2016, 04:41 AM
It arrived this morning ..It took a while to set it up and then I went mad for a bit sawing strips of wood and plastic...I like it!:love:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/PICT0044_zps6wzgsif4.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/shiregreenbod/media/PICT0044_zps6wzgsif4.jpg.html)

Vespa Bob
07-01-2016, 04:54 AM
That machine looks beautiful, a far cry from my Dremel version!

Bob

Pete Howlett
07-01-2016, 12:16 PM
I have one Ken and the major problem is the flimsy riving knife. It is also the wrong thickness since it should be 5% - 10% thicker than the saw kerf. I use mine for ripping brace stock and cutting triangular kerfing to fit your machine you sold me. Took me about 6 months to burn out the Proxxon planer thicknesses tho...

Timbuck
08-12-2016, 04:25 AM
I've just part constructed a batch of 4 sopranos and handed them over to Mrs T for FP etc:..in the meantime I'm turning my attention back to this Proxxon table saw to convert it for cutting fret slots in fingerboards for the new batch of Concert ukes I'm about to start in the near future..I managed to find a couple of nice HSS slitting saw blades on eBay 3" dia X 0.22" cutting width... the problem was the hole in the blade was 1/2" and the arbour for the Proxxon is 3/8"..But I found a way to get round that...more pics to come of my progress later.;)

Timbuck
08-12-2016, 05:51 AM
First thing was to make a sled out of scrap hardwood to fit the slide slots in the saw table..It has to be a good fit with no friction I got it sliding just nicely with the help of some graphite from a soft pencil.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/PICT0002_zpsusbbwosa.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/shiregreenbod/media/PICT0002_zpsusbbwosa.jpg.html)
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/PICT0008_zps6lpyio8u.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/shiregreenbod/media/PICT0008_zps6lpyio8u.jpg.html)

Sven
08-12-2016, 10:46 AM
Hey Ken, Proxxon sells a 0.5 mm blade that works great. It's a smaller diameter and originally for their even smaller saw but it works for me. I can find the number for you if you like.

Timbuck
08-12-2016, 10:51 AM
Hey Ken, Proxxon sells a 0.5 mm blade that works great. It's a smaller diameter and originally for their even smaller saw but it works for me. I can find the number for you if you like.
I've got one Sven but it's just a bit too narrow at .0196" the blades I use are .022" - .025".

Matt Clara
08-12-2016, 11:52 AM
Hey Ken, do you use the five cut method to get that fence perfectly square?
https://wnwoodworkingschool.com/5-cuts-to-a-perfect-cross-cut-sled/

Timbuck
08-12-2016, 12:39 PM
Hey Ken, do you use the five cut method to get that fence perfectly square?
https://wnwoodworkingschool.com/5-cuts-to-a-perfect-cross-cut-sled/
No way! I have much simpler ways of getting things square :D

Matt Clara
08-12-2016, 12:45 PM
All I know is it got my sled fence within 0.0008842592593 of square, which is pretty darn square.
;)

Timbuck
08-12-2016, 01:20 PM
All I know is it got my sled fence within 0.0008842592593 of square, which is pretty darn square.
;)
I'd be very interested to see what equipment was used to check this :D

Matt Clara
08-12-2016, 03:20 PM
I'd be very interested to see what equipment was used to check this :D

Just a cheap digital caliper and a little less cheap straight edge ruler. All them numbers come from the math, done in a spreadsheet with formulas so I don't have to do the math. So yeah, probably not as accurate as all that, but on the other hand, it could be even more accurate, I wouldn't know. :rolleyes: But I will say I've been through the five cut process three times now, and that's the closest I've ever gotten, and I can cut stuff that's plenty square enough for what I'm doing with my sled.

http://i.imgur.com/oS7VPfR.jpg

sequoia
08-12-2016, 07:07 PM
Yeah, but how does it sound?

Timbuck
08-13-2016, 12:53 AM
I did a test on a piece of Maple ..I used my old soprano fret slot indexer that I made about 6 years ago, and its still churning out good fretboards...(I always put a piece of scrap wood on top of the fretboard blank when cutting to hold it down flat to the table and protect fingers)
The result was very good, and a big improvement on my old Black and Decker set up, and it was much smoother and quieter to operate..All I have to do now is make another similar indexing jig in Concert size...to fit the same sled.
Indexing pin

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/PICT0014_zps4kmss3dm.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/shiregreenbod/media/PICT0014_zps4kmss3dm.jpg.html)
Old Soprano Indexer
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/PICT0017_zpstixq0eoy.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/shiregreenbod/media/PICT0017_zpstixq0eoy.jpg.html)
Ready for slotting
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/PICT0022_zpsy0h1omj7.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/shiregreenbod/media/PICT0022_zpsy0h1omj7.jpg.html)
Success
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/PICT0029_zps8upgukyk.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/shiregreenbod/media/PICT0029_zps8upgukyk.jpg.html)

Kevs-the-name
07-07-2017, 12:01 AM
Im seriously considering this setup.
I really want to start cutting fret slots by machine.
Unfortunately, I can't see your pics Ken, so I can't see the adjustments you have made :(

Any further advice would be really helpful

Timbuck
07-07-2017, 01:34 AM
Hi Kev..I hope these pics help...Photobucket want me to pay them a load of cash for 3rd party hosting and I dont want to pay so I now use Flickr.

The main problem I had to sort was the the blade size..proxxon blades are only 58 mm dia X .5mm wide so I found another blade at 3" X 023" and glued it to the Proxxon blade I did this cos the 1/2" hole in the new blade was bigger than the 8mm Proxxon arbour...the arbour washer was large enough to hold it all in place....I suppose you could get away with two blades side by side at 1mm.

Another problem I had, and was hard to track down was microscopic bits of metal getting under the sled and scoring the tabe....They were coming off the aluminium angle indexing beam caused by the steel indexing pin as it located in the holes...I cured this by adding a 4mm Polycarb strip over the holes and re-drilling.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4217/34964237253_e937ddb9e8.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VgERAM)PICT0070 (https://flic.kr/p/VgERAM) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4122/35774575855_cabd8d1a9f.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Wvh42Z)PICT0060 (https://flic.kr/p/Wvh42Z) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4212/35774578585_3153179591.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Wvh4R4)PICT0062 (https://flic.kr/p/Wvh4R4) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4117/34964235093_f586639126.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VgEQXx)PICT0064 (https://flic.kr/p/VgEQXx) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

Kevs-the-name
07-08-2017, 12:14 AM
Thank you very much for your explanation and pictures. Really helpful.
I need to source the bits now!

Best wishes