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Pete Howlett
12-03-2016, 03:56 AM
This is the second in my experiments with side ports. I am so pleased with the result that these are now offered as standard.

This model is all Korina including the neck but excluding fingerboard and bridge which are mgurure or leadwood - similar to African Blackwood only a Brazilian Rosewood brown. Re- entrant tuning with Worth strong. Also works for low G which I can fit for you no extra cost. Fitted with ebony end pin.

Priced in GBP because of fluctuating exchange rates but a bargain for US purchasers. Shipping is free for UK residents, 90 for worldwide. Comes with a hard shell case.

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Ukador
12-03-2016, 07:36 AM
I have a serious question.

I have a problem with you calling this a bargain. In my eyes this Uke is pretty much basic except for the side port but that side port can not be the reason why you ask 700 USD more than Kala for their Elite Mahogany Tenor Uke (http://www.theukulelesite.com/kala-elite-mahogany-tenor-1mhg-t-07880.html) or 400 USD more than Imua for their solid Koa Tenor Uke (http://www.theukulelesite.com/shop-by/size/tenor/imua-ukulele-tenor-package.html)

Do you use special bracings and/or tuners and/or other special constructions/components ?

Jim Hanks
12-03-2016, 08:50 AM
I have a serious question....I have a problem with you calling this a bargain.
$1400 for a handmade uke from a world-class luthier. And not too long ago, the dollar/pound exchange would have pushed this uke over $2000. Yeah, that's a bargain.

ETA: $2K was a guess. Looking at xe.com, in June 2016, the cost would have been $1639

Ukador
12-03-2016, 09:14 AM
$1400 for a handmade uke from a world-class luthier. And not too long ago, the dollar/pound exchange would have pushed this uke over $2000. Yeah, that's a bargain.

ETA: $2K was a guess. Looking at xe.com, in June 2016, the cost would have been $1639

I do not doubt that this is a quality instrument made by a world class luthier. The thing is that I know what you can get for 1400 USD / 1300 EUR / 1100 GBP from other luthiers. You can have hand made basic Ukes for much less and therefore 1100 GBP is not a bargain. But ... again ... maybe there are reasons why this indeed is a bargain. His description is not very detailed.

Kevs-the-name
12-03-2016, 09:40 AM
Im gonna sit here with my popcorn....

I am somewhat surprised....

Mezcalero
12-03-2016, 09:51 AM
I don't want to make assumptions, but I think the original post is referring the beating the sterling pound has taken of late making the exchange rate a bargain.

The Kala Elite mentioned by Ukador certainly seems like a bargain, considering it is made in U.S.

mkatz
12-03-2016, 10:12 AM
I agree that the bargain he is referring to is the exchange rate of the GBP to US dollars. Also don't think it's appropriate to comment negatively on the price someone posts for an item they are selling in a public forum. IMO, proper etiquette would be to send a private message regarding value if you have an interest in purchasing.

Mitch

Pete Howlett
12-03-2016, 10:45 AM
Oh dear.... am I always to price my work below that of my American contemporaries? Hmmm. When I get back to the hotel I'll take this down. Prejudice is not only alive and well in politics but is still present in the ukulele world. And I thought the British were snobs....

Choirguy
12-03-2016, 10:51 AM
You can have hand made basic Ukes for much less and therefore 1100 GBP is not a bargain.

One of the issues with your mindset is that you are comparing other companies to Pete's work--his pricing should be compared to his pricing, plain and simple. If he says this is a bargain for one of his instruments, I believe him. His recent trip to Hawaii seemed to verify his abilities as a luthier of world-class ukuleles.

If you want a Kala or a Imua--they are available. If you want a Pete Howlett, you aren't going to find those everywhere--or anywhere else, really.

Ukador
12-03-2016, 10:52 AM
Constructive criticism is allowed on this forum and I do not find a rule that states that this does not apply to the marketplace.

If you ask much more for your product than your competitors then the people you are trying to sell your product to should be allowed to ask why you ask much more.

Mezcalero
12-03-2016, 10:56 AM
Oh dear.... am I always to price my work below that of my American contemporaries? Hmmm. When I get back to the hotel I'll take this down. Prejudice is not only alive and well in politics but is still present in the ukulele world. And I thought the British were snobs....

I have heard only good things about your work sir.

Edited by Moderator ... comment was uncalled for and therefore deleted.

mkatz
12-03-2016, 11:18 AM
Constructive criticism is allowed on this forum and I do not find a rule that states that this does not apply to the marketplace.

If you ask much more for your product than your competitors then the people you are trying to sell your product to should be allowed to ask why you ask much more.

You are correct, there are no rules against constructive criticism and certainly you may ask all of the questions you like. I was stating my opinion that I think it's inappropriate to question the price in a public forum.

Mitch

DownUpDave
12-03-2016, 11:51 AM
Constructive criticism is allowed on this forum and I do not find a rule that states that this does not apply to the marketplace.

If you ask much more for your product than your competitors then the people you are trying to sell your product to should be allowed to ask why you ask much more.

A Volkwagen cost less than an Audi, which costs less than a BMW which costs less than a Mercedes. You understand that. ........don't you.

Yours is not constructive criticisim. Yours is needless sniping. Unless you are seriously interested in buying it. If not then you are trolling.

buddhuu
12-03-2016, 01:52 PM
Constructive criticism is allowed on this forum and I do not find a rule that states that this does not apply to the marketplace.

If you ask much more for your product than your competitors then the people you are trying to sell your product to should be allowed to ask why you ask much more.

There is, however, a rule that asks that one not be a jerk. IMO you are contributing nothing helpful to the thread, Ukador. Maybe you'd like to sit this one out.

Jim Hanks
12-03-2016, 02:20 PM
If you ask much more for your product than your competitors then the people you are trying to sell your product to should be allowed to ask why you ask much more.
With all due respect to Kala and Imua, they are not Mr. Howlett's "competitors". Look at Mya Moe, Beau Hannam, Ono, Barron River, or a number of other custom builders on this forum and see how far $1400 gets you.

And when was the last time you saw a Korina uke to compare to this one? Personally, this is the first I've heard of it. I think it's a great looking uke, "understated" perhaps, but it certainly showcases the wood, and I'm sure the sound and playability are impeccable coming from Pete.

Recstar24
12-03-2016, 02:44 PM
Constructive criticism is allowed on this forum and I do not find a rule that states that this does not apply to the marketplace.

If you ask much more for your product than your competitors then the people you are trying to sell your product to should be allowed to ask why you ask much more.

You are correct, with the exception that this for sale ad is not the appropriate place to post your issue. The uke talk sub forum would be a more appropriate place. Any seller deserves the respect to be able to sell at a price they find fair without someone actively working against them. And I would check the rules again, most forums I'm a part of have clear expectations that your comment should not be placed on a for sale ad.

ukertommy
12-03-2016, 02:45 PM
It's funny hearing ppl compare Kala brand to Master Pete Howlette's piece. I suggest that criticizer should study more about Pete Howlette Ukulele before making the comment : )

Pete Howlett
12-03-2016, 02:49 PM
I price to my peers. I have video I'll put up when I return from Canada.... Korina is a real contender!

Patrick Madsen
12-03-2016, 04:11 PM
Custom builders Spend100% hands on, highly focused on the step in building a quality instrument. They are not only instilling the quality of years perfecting their skill and vision. They leave their personality in the wood from all the hours of concentration; rubbing and touching the wood. I trust anyone who's played a custom knows the difference.

An example would be a custom pine chain vs. an IKEA pine chair. Both are pine, well made and do the job meant for.

A custom gives you choice in the details of the build. Factory not so much.

You're right, there are hi quality factories making wonderful instruments. After so many years of playing string instruments (57) and improving the quality of the instruments, I know what I like in an instrument and custom Luthier's fit the bill. for myself, it's a reward for still playing after all these years and an instrument to pass on to the next generation of family pickers.

That was a valid question by the op. It's good to know the difference for those just starting out.

UkieOkie
12-03-2016, 04:12 PM
Beautiful and unique Uke! Thanks for posting. I can't afford it, I would love to just play it for a bit. Thanks Mr. Howlett.

Patrick Madsen
12-03-2016, 04:34 PM
Omg, I didn't realize this was a sale thread. My apologies and back to subject.

Any one looking to buy a tenor, this one is special.

Mezcalero
12-03-2016, 06:04 PM
Interesting article about Korina as a tonewood!

http://www.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/korinawoodmakesgreatguitar.aspx

Pete Howlett
12-03-2016, 06:12 PM
I'm going to leave this up for a bit - I just thought you would like to see what I do because I rarely have instruments for sale. For those who really don't know me I have been making ukulele since 1994. My first 200 I built for Collier Thelan at Music Exchange in Hilo - yes, that's right, I sold my work to the Hawaiian market. I numbered last week #810 and will build under my name a further 190 with the aid of a European, technical university trained luthier - the only qualified luthier I know. I have made for the rich and famous the humble and obscure. I am considered by Andy Kitakis as a builder of note - he is patiently waiting for two special ukuleles to be shipped to Hawaiian Music Supply next year. If you are at all interested in where I 'fit' in the builders' scene watch this video...
https://youtu.be/PiDabFoa0uk

buddhuu
12-03-2016, 11:38 PM
Thanks for sharing the fascinating video, Pete. Lovely instrument.

Please let's keep this thread on track now, people.

Thanks.

Jim Hanks
12-04-2016, 09:26 AM
Thanks for the video. I confess I didn't watch the whole thing yet. Anybody who only has a few minutes to spend, skip to the 29 min mark when Corey starts playing. Aaron plays about the 40min mark. Phenomenal.

Pete Howlett
12-04-2016, 02:57 PM
I will do a complete write up on Korina. Fascinating though it is, the Gibson article tells only the electric story. We use the 'spalted ' variety they reject. This wood is also variable... Have done this now and posted it here :

http://forum.ukuleleunderground.com/showthread.php?124377-Korina-for-acoustic-ukulele&p=1917026#post1917026

mds725
12-06-2016, 10:26 PM
That ukulele looks beautiful (even without binding and a rosette), the wood is stunning, and from everything I have heard Pete makes superb ukuleles.

Pete F
12-07-2016, 12:11 AM
I always think Jim Hanks provides the most reasonable responses on these boards [tips hat in respectful agreement] :)

Lovely uke Mr Howlett!