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hawaii 50
12-14-2016, 06:22 PM
I see that Andrew has the Thomastik-Infeld wound .030 and .027 in stock now on The Ukulele Site....the price looks good too....

greenie44
12-15-2016, 03:40 AM
Wow - glad I read this one and did not just rely on the title. I was afraid that this was about some horrible damage inflicted by some new Thomastik-Infeld weapon - you know "woonds" instead of "wownds". Stay safe out there.

DaveY
12-15-2016, 03:55 AM
Wow - glad I read this one and did not just rely on the title. I was afraid that this was about some horrible damage inflicted by some new Thomastik-Infeld weapon - you know "woonds" instead of "wownds". Stay safe out there.

That was an actual "LOL" for me.

And it reminds me of the time I was almost blinded by a flying bridge pin.

DaveY
12-15-2016, 03:56 AM
But seriously . . . OP, how would you describe these strings, and their likely best use? I've heard the name, but don't remember anything about them.

DownUpDave
12-15-2016, 04:20 AM
But seriously . . . OP, how would you describe these strings, and their likely best use? I've heard the name, but don't remember anything about them.

They are used for low G with a wound 3rd and 4th string. They have a very balanced sound and nice feel with an almost totally squeekless nature.

saltytri
12-15-2016, 04:44 AM
Following the lead of Chuck Moore, I've paired these with Oasis E and A strings and find that they work out very well.

Len is quite correct about Andrew's price on these being good!

Kanaka916
12-15-2016, 05:05 AM
Das a good price ... Mahalos!

frigiliana
12-15-2016, 05:15 AM
Hi i'm based in the UK and found this company selling what i think is the strings we're talking about could somebody kindly check for me before i purchase as i'm not sure .
http://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/strings-c1/thomastik-infeld-thomastik-jazz-swing-027-flatwound-single-string-p6758

Kanaka916
12-15-2016, 05:24 AM
Hi i'm based in the UK and found this company selling what i think is the strings we're talking about could somebody kindly check for me before i purchase as i'm not sure .
http://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/strings-c1/thomastik-infeld-thomastik-jazz-swing-027-flatwound-single-string-p6758

I believe it's from the Thomastik-Infeld Classic N Series CF128 set.

Booli
12-15-2016, 05:26 AM
Great that HMS has them now. Previously only 2 vendors had them in stock (as singles) regularly that I could find, stringsbymail.com and juststrings.com. Otherwise, you can get the FULL 6-string classical guitar sets in quite a few places for the CF127 or the CF128 which has a wound '3rd' or 'G' string in classical guitar, and THAT is the CF27 or 0.027" string mentioned here. Elderly, Amazon, and about a dozen others all sell the full sets online. I use them on 3 of my guitars.


But seriously . . . OP, how would you describe these strings, and their likely best use? I've heard the name, but don't remember anything about them.

If you search the forum for 'Thomastik' you will find threads going back at least 3 yrs ago, with fellow UU brother OldePhart (John) singing their praises back then. Many discussions have happened since where folks tried and liked them better than other smooth-wound string options...these are CHROME FLATWOUND with a stranded silk core, and somewhat different in feel and composition than other supposed 'squeakless' strings.

About 1 yr ago, I received a PM from Chuck Moore, thanking me for talking about how much I liked them as often as I did here on UU, and since my talking about them had inspired him to try them, which he was very happy with, and now with them having the Moore Bettah 'seal of approval' it seems that the word is spreading even faster and farther that these are great strings.


They are used for low G with a wound 3rd and 4th string. They have a very balanced sound and nice feel with an almost totally squeekless nature.

Yes, I agree, just to add that...

The CF30 is usually for the low-G and the CF27 is good for a wound-C.

Similarly, on a linear tuned baritone, MANY folks enjoy the use of the CF35 for the low-D and the CF30 for the G string.

Booli
12-15-2016, 05:31 AM
Hi i'm based in the UK and found this company selling what i think is the strings we're talking about could somebody kindly check for me before i purchase as i'm not sure .
http://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/strings-c1/thomastik-infeld-thomastik-jazz-swing-027-flatwound-single-string-p6758

edit- actually NO, these strings we are talking about here are CLASSICAL GUITAR strings, that JS27 string is a STEEL STRING meant for electric guitar and will likely damage a ukulele from excessive tension while also not being able to intonate properly.



I believe it's from the Thomastik-Infeld Classic N Series CF128 set.

Yes, that is the 'wound 3rd' i.e., CF27 or 'chrome flat-wound' 0.027" string mentioned in the OP which is also included in the CF128 set. However the JS27 string is NOT the same strings as being sold on HMS as per the OP.

I have included a link a my post below for frigiliana to see the specific item in question....

Booli
12-15-2016, 05:35 AM
FYI:

http://www.theukulelesite.com/accessories/strings/thomastik-infeld.html

hawaii 50
12-15-2016, 06:30 AM
Wow - glad I read this one and did not just rely on the title. I was afraid that this was about some horrible damage inflicted by some new Thomastik-Infeld weapon - you know "woonds" instead of "wownds". Stay safe out there.

haha sorry bout the spelling....it was bedtime when I put it in the forum...haha

Mivo
12-15-2016, 07:36 AM
Hi i'm based in the UK and found this company selling what i think is the strings we're talking about could somebody kindly check for me before i purchase as i'm not sure .
http://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/strings-c1/thomastik-infeld-thomastik-jazz-swing-027-flatwound-single-string-p6758

You can buy the CF27 and CF30 strings as singles in Europe also. I got mine here (https://schneidermusik.de/shop1/product_info.php/products_id/141) and here (https://schneidermusik.de/shop1/product_info.php/products_id/137?osCsid=ckv0lnlog9nethgg4332pqj8t2). I've bought quite a few things from them and they are a reliable store. They'll also ship to UK. (Not sure what the shipping costs are, but it should come out cheaper than importing them from the US and also cheapr than buying the whole CF128 set, which costs double of what the two single strings cost together).

DaveY
12-15-2016, 07:39 AM
DUD, thanks for the description.

How would the T-I low G compare to the Fremont Soloist, which I currently use?

Booli
12-15-2016, 07:42 AM
You can buy the CF27 and CF30 strings as singles in Europe also. I got mine here (https://schneidermusik.de/shop1/product_info.php/products_id/141) and here (https://schneidermusik.de/shop1/product_info.php/products_id/137?osCsid=ckv0lnlog9nethgg4332pqj8t2). I've bought quite a few things from them and they are a reliable store. They'll also ship to UK. (Not sure what the shipping costs are, but it should come out cheaper than importing them from the US and also cheapr than buying the whole CF128 set, which costs double of what the two single strings cost together).

Admittedly, by being from the USA, I am ignorant of many vendors in the EU, but Thomastik-Infeld is out of Vienna, Austria and I'd think that at least in the EU, retail prices might be cheaper for any case where BREXIT is not involved, no?

Mivo - does Germany have favorable trade relations with Austria?

frigiliana
12-15-2016, 07:42 AM
I think i've found the ones, i think i'll have to buy a set can't see individual ones . I've checked out the OP link but the shipping is more than the strings so i'd prefer to get them nearer UK , thanks for all the advise .This is the set link .http://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/strings-c1/classical-guitar-strings-sets-c288/thomastik-infeld-thomastik-infeld-thomastik-cf128-n-series-nylon-light-tension-flat-wound-guitar-strings-p9055

Just looked again i might be wrong this might be for one string really confused now .

Mivo
12-15-2016, 07:42 AM
How would the T-I low G compare to the Fremont Soloist, which I currently use?

On my Barron River tenor, I prefer the Fremont Soloist if it's the only wound string. It has a little less boom than the Thomastik-Infeld string and I feel it fits in better with the Worth Clears. The TI stands out more. However, if you also use a wound C string, then I'd recommend getting the two Thomastik-Infeld strings (CF27 and CF30) as they go perfectly together. (I believe this also depends on the instrument.)

Mivo
12-15-2016, 07:45 AM
Mivo - does Germany have favorable trade relations with Austria?

Yes, both are members of the EU, so no import/export taxes between those countries (and almost no border controls). Same currency also.

@frigiliana: See my post above. You can buy them from a German vendor that ships to the UK also. Should not be overly costly in terms of shipping, at least as long as the UK is still in the EU.

frigiliana
12-15-2016, 07:48 AM
Brilliant thanks Mivo just seen the little "here" in red .

Tootler
12-15-2016, 11:01 AM
Yes, while the UK is still in the EU, you can buy from another EU country with no import duties. You pay the local rate of VAT. The shipping costs might be slightly higher as the goods have to cross the water but it shouldn't be that different for strings.

I've bought Aquila strings direct from Italy with reasonable shipping cost. They were a bit slow but I hear the Italian postal service tends to be slow.

DaveY
12-15-2016, 11:03 AM
On my Barron River tenor, I prefer the Fremont Soloist if it's the only wound string. It has a little less boom than the Thomastik-Infeld string and I feel it fits in better with the Worth Clears. The TI stands out more. However, if you also use a wound C string, then I'd recommend getting the two Thomastik-Infeld strings (CF27 and CF30) as they go perfectly together. (I believe this also depends on the instrument.)

Thanks, Mivo. That's very helpful.

DownUpDave
12-15-2016, 11:16 AM
DUD, thanks for the description.

How would the T-I low G compare to the Fremont Soloist, which I currently use?

I am going to go against the current popular mind set on T-I strings. I prefer the sound of Fremont Soloist over any wound low G string. The T-I .030" low G is good when paired up with the T-I .027" wound C string. This C string doesn't pair up well sonically with the Fremont Soloist, they sound too different from each other, at least to my ears.

I find the Fremont has a more resonant sound with some sparkle while the T-I is more neutral with a flatter response, some like that better.

It appears I was typing the same answer as Mivo.......looks like we hear it the same way:D

Booli
12-15-2016, 11:56 AM
I am going to go against the current popular mind set on T-I strings. I prefer the sound of Fremont Soloist over any wound low G string....

Hey there Brother Dave...no worries from me. Whatever works for you, keeps you making music and brings you the most satisfaction and joy.

I only try to share the info I know and my experience, so folks can learn about all of the options available to them, and make their best choice for their own preferences....

I am grateful for the privilege to discuss these matters here on UU. :) Mahalo :music:

JJFN
12-15-2016, 01:43 PM
Booli, what exit is Aether Nox? Sorry folks this is a private joke.

oregonuke
12-15-2016, 01:52 PM
I went to the HMS site and put a couple of the TI's in the shopping cart but balked when the shipping cost came up as $20.35 for USPS Priority Mail to Oregon! Why so much? A small Flat Rate box or envelope is plenty big for a couple of strings and only costs somewhere around $6.50.

Booli
12-15-2016, 01:55 PM
Booli, what exit is Aether Nox? Sorry folks this is a private joke.

LOL - likely somewhere down in the Pine Barrens...

Far from man-made/electric lights such that a Full Moon is all you need to light your path to safety...

The cool thing is that Aether Nox (Latin for 'The Night Sky') actually stretches really well from the Morristown area down to the Pine Barrens, and beyond....

:)

Booli
12-15-2016, 02:02 PM
I went to the HMS site and put a couple of the TI's in the shopping cart but balked when the shipping cost came up as $20.35 for USPS Priority Mail to Oregon! Why so much? A small Flat Rate box or envelope is plenty big for a couple of strings and only costs somewhere around $6.50.

https://www.stringsbymail.com has them in stock usually, and flat rate shipping of $4, and orders over $99 ship free...

[EDIT: deleted previous bad instructions], here is a link to them, under the CLASSIC N SERIES:

https://www.stringsbymail.com/classical-guitar-strings-1/thomastik-infeld-63/classic-n-series-88/cf127-chrome-165/

https://www.stringsbymail.com/classical-guitar-strings-1/thomastik-infeld-63/classic-n-series-88/cf128-chrome-3rd-166/

Sorry for the previously posted bad info (since removed)

sam13
12-15-2016, 03:31 PM
I like the T-Is on my baris, but for tenor low G, I still prefer the Soloist. I think it reduces squeak better, has a smoother feel, and has a better tonal match to fluorocarbon strings (which I use almost exclusively). But the T-Is are bendier—easier to restring; I don't know if this makes then more responsive when bending, since I don't use bends much.

I hope HMS will stock the CF35, too, for us bari players. Otherwise, I'll be sticking with StringsByMail.

Interestingly, I prefer the TI Low G only with my Long Neck Tenor - 19" scale. Sounds great. It I don't care for them on my Tenors either as they do seem to lack a bit of colour and sparkle. At least to my ear.

AndrewKuker
12-15-2016, 03:39 PM
I went to the HMS site and put a couple of the TI's in the shopping cart but balked when the shipping cost came up as $20.35 for USPS Priority Mail to Oregon! Why so much? A small Flat Rate box or envelope is plenty big for a couple of strings and only costs somewhere around $6.50.

Sorry about that. If you try again and select the first class mail it should only be a few bucks.

oregonuke
12-15-2016, 04:15 PM
Thanks Andrew. I appreciate the response and will get some on order.

frigiliana
12-16-2016, 01:17 AM
Could any members comment on my intended set up of the TI strings . I play a Godin Multiuke mainly strumming with a little solo stuff (learning slowly)
i currently have a Fremont Soloist and have been very happy with it, but it's showing signs of wear , i liked the fact that it sat in the Nut Slot without and problems . I intend getting the 027 & 030 TI strings and wondered what make of A & E strings would pair best ? Hopefuly strings i can purchase within the EU .

DownUpDave
12-16-2016, 02:39 AM
Could any members comment on my intended set up of the TI strings . I play a Godin Multiuke mainly strumming with a little solo stuff (learning slowly)
i currently have a Fremont Soloist and have been very happy with it, but it's showing signs of wear , i liked the fact that it sat in the Nut Slot without and problems . I intend getting the 027 & 030 TI strings and wondered what make of A & E strings would pair best ? Hopefuly strings i can purchase within the EU .

The TI CF30 size is .030" in diameter ( hence the model #) this is the same diameter as the Fremont Soloist so swapping one for the other requires no additional set up work.

A popular pairing of A & E strings are the Oasis warms.

stevejfc
12-16-2016, 02:46 AM
I've had T-I's on one of my concerts, and found them a bit sloppy...........probably due to the shorter (15") scale length. I'm going to give them a try on a 16" concert and see how that sounds. I also find that they are not as smooth as the Fremont.

frigiliana
12-16-2016, 02:47 AM
Appreciate that DownUpDave thanks good to know , i'll look into the Oasis warms see if there are any stockists in Uk or EU .

Edit , Not having any luck sourcing Oasis warms in UK or EU is there an alternative to Oasis strings you would recommend ?

DownUpDave
12-16-2016, 02:58 AM
I've had T-I's on one of my concerts, and found them a bit sloppy...........probably due to the shorter (15") scale length. I'm going to give them a try on a 16" concert and see how that sounds. I also find that they are not as smooth as the Fremont.

Hey Steve

I had them on my 16" Ono concert and thought they worked very well on it. I had South Coast ML-WB before that, they were quite close to the Thomstiks.

DownUpDave
12-16-2016, 03:00 AM
Appreciate that DownUpDave thanks good to know , i'll look into the Oasis warms see if there are any stockists in Uk or EU .

They pair up well with most florocarbon. I had them with Worth CT (clear tenor) and they sounded nice together.

Mivo
12-16-2016, 03:13 AM
Edit , Not having any luck sourcing Oasis warms in UK or EU is there an alternative to Oasis strings you would recommend ?

Like Dave, I liked the TI27/30 in combination with Worth Clears (CT) and Living Waters. LWs may be an optimal choice, especially since you are in the UK: Ken will sell you two E and two A strings instead of one set, if you email him and ask him, which is super economic as you won't end up with unneeded strings (C and G).

frigiliana
12-16-2016, 03:13 AM
Just remembered i'd bought some Martin & Co Fluorocarbon's ages ago so i'm going to try them , will get back when the TI arrive , thanks once again for the advise .

Mivo
12-16-2016, 03:16 AM
I liked the Martin M620 (or was it 630? - whichever are the tenor ones) E and A with the Thomastik-Infelds also. Definitely try these if you already have them. I generally like the Martins, they really sound good and project well, except for the C string, which I find way too thick. Otherwise I'd use these over Worth Clears.

frigiliana
12-16-2016, 03:19 AM
Great can't wait now , thought it would be a good time as my ukulele club don't meet again till January give the new strings time to bed in .

wickedwahine11
12-16-2016, 04:39 AM
I am going to go against the current popular mind set on T-I strings. I prefer the sound of Fremont Soloist over any wound low G string. The T-I .030" low G is good when paired up with the T-I .027" wound C string. This C string doesn't pair up well sonically with the Fremont Soloist, they sound too different from each other, at least to my ears.

I find the Fremont has a more resonant sound with some sparkle while the T-I is more neutral with a flatter response, some like that better.

It appears I was typing the same answer as Mivo.......looks like we hear it the same way:D

It is the oddest thing, I love them to death on one of my ukes, and prefer the Southcoast/Fremont pairing on another - but both are the same builder! I wish these were my faves on my slothead, but they don't have the same sparkle and resonance on that uke to my ears. Sucks as I can no longer get the Southcoast C string as a single any more and only have a couple left. :( But on the other uke, the T1 are the best combo I have ever tried.

buganeal
12-16-2016, 05:09 AM
I am currently using Southcoast HML-RW for the G and C and Hannabach 234MT for the treble side. Love the way the sound on my Sinker redwood/ rosewood combo. Really warm and classical guitar like.

Have these on order now :

Thomastik-Infeld CF30 - 4th string (D) .030 chrome steel flat wound
Thomastik-Infeld CF27 - 3rd string (g) .027 chrome steel flat wound
Savarez Alliance KF 542R - 2nd string (b) normal tension .0272
Savarez Alliance KF 541R - 1st string (e), normal tension .0244

Im guessing this combo is going to be a brighter setup with higher tension? Should get these in around 7 to 21 days later. Can't wait.

stevejfc
12-16-2016, 05:52 AM
Hey Steve

I had them on my 16" Ono concert and thought they worked very well on it. I had South Coast ML-WB before that, they were quite close to the Thomstiks.
Thanks Dave.....I'll give them a try on my 16" Goat Rock concert.

JJFN
12-16-2016, 06:09 AM
Did anyone else read this heading, Thomastik-Infeld wounds, thinking someone injured themselves? English is a funny language. I finally got it, that wounds like in winding something was what was meant.

Mivo
12-16-2016, 07:15 AM
It's just shorthand for "wound strings" (strings that have a silver/etc thread wound around them). :)

WCBarnes
12-16-2016, 07:57 AM
Hey Steve

I had them on my 16" Ono concert and thought they worked very well on it. I had South Coast ML-WB before that, they were quite close to the Thomstiks.

Glad to hear Dave. I have 16" Ono being built and really wanted to use T-I strings. I love how they sound on my baritone but was worried tension would be a little slack on the concert. Thanks!

Dan Uke
12-16-2016, 11:08 AM
I bought 3 sets and put them on 1 uke and I prefer the SC strings for that uke. I guess I'll try them on another uke and report back.

One other thing, I didn't know you were supposed to cut the whipping part off.