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Foxfish
01-06-2017, 03:18 AM
I was wondering if it was possible to buy a wound string that will tune to pitch on the E string of a DGBE set?

Jim Hanks
01-06-2017, 07:40 AM
In the normal octave? Doubtful. I won't say "impossible" as someone will probably provide the counter example. Now, if you were willing for the E to be an octave lower, then the Lil'u sets will give you a wound first string:
http://www.southcoastukes.com/liliu.htm

jollyboy
01-06-2017, 08:06 AM
The D'Addario wound string with the lowest unit weight I can find will still give you around 25lbs of tension tuned to E on a baritone. So I'm going to agree with Jim and say highly unlikely.

Booli
01-06-2017, 10:05 AM
The D'Addario wound string with the lowest unit weight I can find will still give you around 25lbs of tension tuned to E on a baritone. So I'm going to agree with Jim and say highly unlikely.

I also would not try it.

The D'Addario String Tension Pro (http://stringtensionpro.com/) calculator gives me 17.86 lbs of tension with a silver-plated copper wound classical string (NYLW020) tuned to E4, which may exceed the structural tolerance of the instrument in question and cause damage.

See photo:
http://i.imgur.com/CnI8fc2.png

Booli
01-06-2017, 10:17 AM
I was wondering if it was possible to buy a wound string that will tune to pitch on the E string of a DGBE set?
Hmm..after watching a few of your YT vids, might you be wanting to tune GDAE in fifths on a baritone uke (like an octave mandolin)?

If so, you are likely going to be using 3 wound and one not-wound (either nylon or fluoro).

I've tried to come up with strings for this and even with an 0.048" or 0.052" extra-hard tension classical guitar string for the G2, could never get it to intonate better than 12 cents sharp.

I think you'd have to compensate that string about 10mm, or maybe use an instrument with a fanned-fret setup whereby you've got about 22" scale for the G2 string and 19" scale for the E4 string in order to get good intonation, unless you want a REALLY thick wound string with about 19 lbs of tension...but I am certainly no expert...and open to ideas :)

Foxfish
01-06-2017, 09:22 PM
Thanks guys, I like to experiment with different strings and tunings. The lightest wound string I could find was a
DAddarlo 0.019 and at around 16.5lb it felt very wrong and past it's limit of playability!
Just thought I would ask.....
Booli, I have a couple of ukuleles in standard tuning but yes you are right I also play in 5ths.
GDAE is pretty easy on most baritone 20" scales... or at least on mine it works very well. 0.50 0.35 0.24 all wound and 0.28p.

hammer40
01-07-2017, 02:48 AM
Thanks guys, I like to experiment with different strings and tunings. The lightest wound string I could find was a
DAddarlo 0.019 and at around 16.5lb it felt very wrong and past it's limit of playability!
Just thought I would ask.....
Booli, I have a couple of ukuleles in standard tuning but yes you are right I also play in 5ths.
GDAE is pretty easy on most baritone 20" scales... or at least on mine it works very well. 0.50 0.35 0.24 all wound and 0.28p.

LaBella offers an .017 silver wound over at strings by mail.

https://www.stringsbymail.com/classical-guitar-strings-1/la-bella-59/specialty-singles-142/silverplated-wound-632/


If you are willing to try nylon microwound strings, there are full nylon wound sets available for the baritone.

http://www.thegts.co/ukulele/

http://thegcs.co/ukulele-1/

Also Kala pearls and Magma strings, if they are still available.

Foxfish
01-07-2017, 03:09 AM
Cool, thank you ;)
Shame this forum does not have a 'like' button!

spongeuke
01-07-2017, 12:49 PM
Thank you for the heads up on wound string options for a Baritone. I hope it will be just what I'm looking for on the Bass'nBari project.