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Doug W
02-23-2017, 05:21 PM
I have 3 unfinished ukes in the basement, which is the sum total of instruments I have (not quite yet) built. I am not a prolific hobby builder. I saw this in a thrift store today and wondered if there is any reason I should purchase this or is it likely just a $39 boat anchor.

Rockwell Manufacturing Company
Model 37-11C ***EDIT*** This should be Model 37-110, just saw it with the morning sun.,
4" Precision Jointer.
Missing a motor which isn't a big deal.

98047

98049

98048

98050

Titchtheclown
02-23-2017, 05:58 PM
Unless you have a use for it outside of uke building I am guessing no.
On the other hand he who dies with the most toys wins.
It does look pretty solid and no obvious dings to make one think it has been knocked about. The things to check are how flat everything is what can be adjustud to put things in allignment and if there is any play in the bearings.

mainger
02-23-2017, 06:14 PM
he who dies with the most toys wins.

LOL.
True.

Doug W
02-23-2017, 06:43 PM
On the other hand he who dies with the most toys wins.

Perhaps the only piece of advice I can hear now!

DPO
02-23-2017, 07:34 PM
$40 For a great woodworking tool? Grab it.

Timbuck
02-24-2017, 01:03 AM
I've got a motor that needs that machine :D

Doug W
02-24-2017, 01:30 AM
$40 For a great woodworking tool? Grab it.


I've got a motor that needs that machine :D

I am going back this morning to see if it is still there.

mzuch
02-24-2017, 03:24 AM
I've got one. It makes a good storage table. I don't use it for lutherie.

RPA_Ukuleles
02-24-2017, 05:25 AM
I've got two jointers already, but I would still scoop that up in a heartbeat.

Diogenes Blue
02-24-2017, 05:29 AM
Mine gets a lot of use. Perfect for joining / laminating ukulele necks and such. I believe mine is model 37-290. Runs smooth as butter compared to a newer lightweight Delta I sold a while back. I personally wouldn't pass one up for that price.. You see parts for them on eBay all the time...

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Doug W
02-24-2017, 06:47 AM
Well the jointer was hiding behind plants overnight at the thrift store so now it is in my basement. Any suggestions on motor HP / RPMs / pulley size, I should look for.


Hiding
98062

In Basement
98061

Doug
02-24-2017, 06:52 AM
I think the stand alone is worth $39. Should be lots of info and probably even a pdf owners manual on VintageMachinery.org.

Diogenes Blue
02-24-2017, 07:06 AM
This video will tell you a lot about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9rmvEEDx3k - His technique for setting it up is spot on. Make sure to watch his other video on setting up the blades. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LENyfLOFmpQ

Pretty sure the pulley should be 2-3/4.

These blades are recommended by many. I'll be grabbing a new set soon.

https://www.amazon.com/19-HSS-Planer-Blades-Walker-Turner/dp/B002O75HTG

Congrats... these are excellent machines.

lauburu
02-24-2017, 08:28 AM
Well done. Fixing up and tuning that machine should keep you away from making ukuleles for a while. :(
Miguel

Kekani
02-24-2017, 12:03 PM
What a deal! I was given the 6" model years ago, and only last month finally got around to changing the knives, and getting a planer pal and dial indicator, 36" straight edge to set it up properly. It worked prior to the new knives; now its almost as badass as my Hitachi resaw.

Doug W
02-24-2017, 01:00 PM
I think the stand alone is worth $39. Should be lots of info and probably even a pdf owners manual on VintageMachinery.org.

Thanks Doug I will check that out.


This video will tell you a lot about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9rmvEEDx3k - His technique for setting it up is spot on. Make sure to watch his other video on setting up the blades. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LENyfLOFmpQ

Pretty sure the pulley should be 2-3/4.

These blades are recommended by many. I'll be grabbing a new set soon.

https://www.amazon.com/19-HSS-Planer-Blades-Walker-Turner/dp/B002O75HTG

Congrats... these are excellent machines.


Thanks for the links. I will look for a 2-3/4 pulley.


Well done. Fixing up and tuning that machine should keep you away from making ukuleles for a while. :(
Miguel

You bet.



What a deal! I was given the 6" model years ago, and only last month finally got around to changing the knives, and getting a planer pal and dial indicator, 36" straight edge to set it up properly. It worked prior to the new knives; now its almost as badass as my Hitachi resaw.

I will start messing with it next week.

Michael Smith
02-24-2017, 05:35 PM
I had the six inch version of that jointer. It was a very good tool and I got a lot done with it.

Timbuck
02-24-2017, 10:47 PM
A 2-3/4 motor pully looks way too small compared to the one on this video its more like 6 1/2" ..but it depends on the motor speed...You should be aiming at around 6000 rpm for the blades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBLuq2RQXxc
here is some more info
http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/Increasing_RPMs_and_Feed_Speed.html

Doug W
02-25-2017, 04:47 AM
A 2-3/4 motor pully looks way too small compared to the one on this video its more like 6 1/2" ..but it depends on the motor speed...You should be aiming at around 6000 rpm for the blades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBLuq2RQXxc
here is some more info
http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/Increasing_RPMs_and_Feed_Speed.html

Thanks Ken, I continued to watch a couple videos after the first one about cleaning up the rust.

Doug W
02-25-2017, 05:34 AM
Is the world against WD-40 for cleaning the surface rust? In the midwest USA you are issued a can at birth. Has WD40 fallen out of favor, just like Brylcreem?

CORRECT model number is 37-110, not 37-11C.

Diogenes Blue
02-25-2017, 09:36 AM
Oops, yeah, the motor pully should be 6 1/2. It's my most favoritist tool in the shop... my precious, yes.

Doug W
02-25-2017, 11:42 AM
Oops, yeah, the motor pully should be 6 1/2. It's my most favoritist tool in the shop... my precious, yes.
-Thanks- I will look for one

Diogenes Blue
02-25-2017, 12:22 PM
This came with mine. Copyright 1937. 48 page booklet with lots of cool old photos and joinery techniques.

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Doug W
02-25-2017, 01:04 PM
This came with mine. Copyright 1937. 48 page booklet with lots of cool old photos and joinery techniques.

9812098121

Looks like it has never been touched.

sequoia
02-25-2017, 06:27 PM
Is the world against WD-40 for cleaning the surface rust? In the midwest USA you are issued a can at birth. Has WD40 fallen out of favor, just like Brylcreem?

CORRECT model number is 37-110, not 37-11C.

WD-40 was one of the greatest inventions ever made. I once washed a cell phone in the washing machine, opened it up, sprayed WD-40 into it, let it sit in the sun for day and as good as new. The one thing about WD-40 I think has to be realized is that the stuff is a great solvent and not that great a lubricant although it tries to be both. Great for cleaning up corrosion but not so great in the long run as a lubricant. Actually it can leave a sort of filmy residue that can get downright sticky. Clean with WD-40 and then remove and replace with proper oil/lubricant... Sorry off thread.

Doug W
02-26-2017, 04:15 AM
Great for cleaning up corrosion but not so great in the long run as a lubricant. Actually it can leave a sort of filmy residue that can get downright sticky. Clean with WD-40 and then remove and replace with proper oil/lubricant... Sorry off thread.

Seems pretty on topic to me anyway. Just cleaned it with WD-40 and it did take the rust off and left a sort of film like you said.