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cindyleigh
03-25-2017, 01:56 PM
Hi, I am having a hard time making a consistent sound when I chuck/palm mute (these are the same things, right?).

I am scraping my fingernails along the strings and stopping the sound with the meat part of my thumb. It sounds fine when I play C major or A minor, but when I play a chord where I depress the E string (so F major, or G major) it makes a different and not pleasant sound.

Should it sound the same regardless of what strings are played with the left hand?

Is the goal to make a consistent sound each time?

Thanks,

hikaru
03-25-2017, 02:53 PM
This tutorial is really helpful to me. Hope it helps!
http://forum.ukuleleunderground.com/showthread.php?108965-the-Chunk-strum&highlight=chunk

bikemech
03-25-2017, 06:15 PM
Hi Cindy ,

Yes. The sound should be consistent. It would seem you are not completely touching all the strings when you perform the chunk, hence the "not pleasant sound". Make sure you are touching all the strings with the heel of you palm, or whatever part of your hand work best for you. Try it with no strings fretted; that way you'll know it's not your left hand causing the problem.

I find it best to play above the body, right over the finger board. At least that what works for me. It does take some practice time and patience to get it right. Stu Fuchs has a good teaching video as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOBXx_u3ukE

Croaky Keith
03-25-2017, 10:26 PM
Not that I do it often, but when I do it, I use the heel of my hand on the strings, & get consistent results. :)

WCBarnes
03-26-2017, 02:22 AM
Not that I do it often, bu:agree:t when I do it, I use the heel of my hand on the strings, & get consistent results. :)

:agree: I use the heel of my hand as well. More surface to ensure complete contact with the strings.

cindyleigh
03-26-2017, 06:06 AM
Thank you, Hikaru and Bikemech - those were helpful videos.

I think the Stu Fuchs video helped me identify the problem, which is that I was striking too much with ring finger, with my hand at a slant ...and so I was missing the G string. Today I'll practice his method of striking with my middle finger/ring finger, and work on striking more parallel to the fret board so that I lead with the striking the G.

Practice makes perfect, as they say!

Thanks,

ErnieElse
03-26-2017, 07:01 AM
Chunking and palm muting are different techniques. Chunking is a strumming technique to dampen the strings immediately after a down strum to create a percussive sound. Palm muting is a picking technique (usually flat picking) where the strings are damped before picking to create a percussive damped sound wth less sustain. Palm muting the bass strings during Travis picking is very common.

robinboyd
04-04-2017, 06:37 PM
Thank you, Hikaru and Bikemech - those were helpful videos.

I think the Stu Fuchs video helped me identify the problem, which is that I was striking too much with ring finger, with my hand at a slant ...and so I was missing the G string. Today I'll practice his method of striking with my middle finger/ring finger, and work on striking more parallel to the fret board so that I lead with the striking the G.

Practice makes perfect, as they say!

Thanks,

I have never ever seen chunking done the way Stu Fuchs does it in that video. Still it seems to work alright for him. I'm more of the Aldrine Guerrero school of using the outside of the thumb to muffle. I think it produces a cleaner sound that what Stu is getting and is much less complicated.

mikelz777
04-05-2017, 01:13 AM
When I chunk, I hold my strumming (index) finger differently. When strumming, I hold it relatively straight, slightly curved. When I chunk, my strumming finger is held more like a hook and the strings are then muted with the meat of my hand between the base of my thumb and my wrist. I don't consciously think about it but when I chunk, I think I hold my hand on a parallel plane with the strings rather than at a slight angle.

jimavery
04-05-2017, 01:21 AM
I confess that despite many attempts over many months using different methods following various tutorials, I still can't get a consistent chunk; well not without my wedding ring slapping the sound-board anyway (I play left-handed). I'm not prepared to take my wedding ring off to play so I have honestly given up, remaining content never to strum a chunk! I admire the strums of those that can and do though.

bikemech
04-05-2017, 03:45 AM
I confess that despite many attempts over many months using different methods following various tutorials, I still can't get a consistent chunk; well not without my wedding ring slapping the sound-board anyway (I play left-handed). I'm not prepared to take my wedding ring off to play so I have honestly given up, remaining content never to strum a chunk! I admire the strums of those that can and do though.

Jim,

Don't give up. It's such a fun and useful technique. Watch Stu's video and try to strum farther up over the finger board. Keep challenging yourself. It keeps playing interesting.

David

robinboyd
04-05-2017, 09:14 PM
I just can't get my head around all this talk of ring fingers and middle fingers. When I'm chunking I definitely strum with my index finger and mute with the side of my thumb. Here is a video. Am I weird or something? I'm sure I was taught to do it this way, and it works great for me...

https://youtu.be/6nTuYkaoCLY

Croaky Keith
04-05-2017, 10:04 PM
It doesn't really matter how you do it, it just matters that you are consistent with it. :)

ukatee
04-06-2017, 02:03 AM
Cynthia Lin has a really good chucking tutorial where she breaks it all down into slow steps:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBBmUVqM6Vw&feature=youtu.be

Ukecaster
04-06-2017, 04:10 AM
Yeah, newb here, working on my chuck/chunk/chop, whatever you want to call it. Tried it on these 4 ukes, left to right in pic. I noticed that the plastic Outdoor chunked well, but it was a plasticky sound (duh). Kala longneck did OK, nothing special. The solid Kala spruce top was loud and chopped well, but the last one one, the Kamaka, chopped best, a real loud thunk, which you could actually feel in your body, probably because it is solid, and so lightly constructed. It was interesting to see the Dropbox visual graph too. The first 3 have FC strings, the last one, the Kamaka, still has the Aquila Nylguts, but going to M600 when I get a roundtuit. My method, so far, is strumming with pointer, and muting with outside heel of palm, below the pinkie. Will be trying to use the inside of palm, below thumb, for some more slap.

Chuck Clip (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/m2b3t7dhc1jel6yn5rtcw/Chop%20clip.mp3?dl=0&oref=e&r=AAWt4tQQTNR5idHW3Jc2sTNBDTibnPGAj-8CD3Bp6wLIlDL7yJf9N_CqtZBDqSk-bcyGfKePaJT8D7Twk9FYoiqqwVrWEd0hZX46zS01Opr8vMS7nD VFfsKb7TQv6d_OfPMc6JZIHty-GbBtBEB41IDVoj9k28BySJrjw2EE8WS59Q&sm=1)

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robinboyd
04-06-2017, 12:26 PM
Cynthia Lin has a really good chucking tutorial where she breaks it all down into slow steps:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBBmUVqM6Vw&feature=youtu.be

That's more like how I do it...

robinboyd
04-06-2017, 12:47 PM
This just showed up on my Facebook feed.

https://www.facebook.com/ukuleleunderground/videos/10154798124109678/