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Down Up Dick
08-05-2017, 04:02 AM
I wonder why most of us are anonymous. I even wonder why I'M anonymous. I just used an alias because everyone else had one.

Do we think someone will come after us if we say something negative? Do we think everyone will realize how stupid we really are? Are we worried that someone will find us and steal our ukes?

I usta belong to a flute forum, using my real name and nobody came to do me any harm, and nobody stold my flutes.

I think using our real names would make us a lot more careful about what we say.

Well, I just wondered why uke playing has to be so secret--shhhh . . . :old:

Pukulele Pete
08-05-2017, 04:47 AM
I try to put as little info about me as possible , keep my internet footprint small . Please ,...don't tell anyone .

mountain goat
08-05-2017, 04:50 AM
Since you've put me on your ignore list Dick,
I'm doubly anonymous to you.
Personally, I think you could be a psycho killer.
My name is Jonathon. I could also be a psycho killer.
That's why I won't tell you my last name.

DownUpDave
08-05-2017, 05:01 AM
We are just following a well used practice of protection. Other forums and forms of social medial are a lot less "genteel" so keeping your real identity secret is a good practice. Here on UU we have the good fortune of a friendly , helpful membership without too many personal verbal attacks. I would be comfortable using my real name here, Dave is half of it.

mountain goat
08-05-2017, 05:03 AM
#moststupidthreadever

Croaky Keith
08-05-2017, 05:25 AM
Actually, when you sign up online, quite often you will find someone else with your name, I find quite a few, so having a 'nick' makes you easier to recognize & more individual online. ;)

Down Up Dick
08-05-2017, 05:42 AM
Since you've put me on your ignore list Dick,
I'm doubly anonymous to you.
Personally, I think you could be a psycho killer.
My name is Jonathon. I could also be a psycho killer.
That's why I won't tell you my last name.

I don't have an ignore list. I don't even know how to set one up. I'm sane and a nice ol' guy. Lighten up . . .

Men usta be proud of their names, but that was in a better time. :old:

Down Up Dick
08-05-2017, 05:44 AM
#moststupidthreadever

You seem to be having a bad day. I hope it improves. :old:

kohanmike
08-05-2017, 05:49 AM
I always use my real name, done in a way that will most likely not be used by anyone else.

Down Up Dick
08-05-2017, 05:49 AM
Actually, when you sign up online, quite often you will find someone else with your name, I find quite a few, so having a 'nick' makes you easier to recognize & more individual online. ;)

Yeah, Keith, plus I suppose the internet has added to "the Age of Anxiety". Better safe than sorry . . . :old:

bearbike137
08-05-2017, 05:54 AM
#moststupidthreadever


Bet you wouldn't post that under your real name...

Lol.

mountain goat
08-05-2017, 05:54 AM
You seem to be having a bad day. I hope it improves. :old:

we are in the 21st century man.
#moststupidthreadever.

mountain goat
08-05-2017, 05:56 AM
Bet you wouldn't post that under your real name...

Lol.
ha. I sure wouldn't if I created it brus.

janeray1940
08-05-2017, 05:56 AM
For me it's about what little privacy control the internet affords us. My full, real name is on my professional website, and appears in a few videos where I'm credited (i.e. the one in my sig below, and a couple more) but that's it. I don't use Facebook or other social media other than UU and Instagram, and even if I did, I think I'd want those to remain apart from everything else. My potential employers don't need to know that I play ukulele and take pictures, and working in tech, it's guaranteed that I will be Googled before I am called for interviews!

Oddly enough, even though my real name is a bit unusual, there are two higher-profile people online who share it and both are all about internet marketing, so even if I wanted to use it for online accounts, it's already taken! Years ago I was one of the first beta-testers for Gmail long before its public launch, and even that early on, one of the two who share my name had already snagged my firstnamelastname at gmail dot com.

mountain goat
08-05-2017, 06:05 AM
Dick,
you might find this hard to believe,
but there is a world that exists outside your asshole.

bearbike137
08-05-2017, 06:10 AM
Hey - c'mon - lighten up...

Down Up Dick
08-05-2017, 06:15 AM
Dick,
you might find this hard to believe,
but there is a world that exists outside your asshole.

Relax man, have a cuppa coffee, put your feet up, strum a few tunes. Try to improve the day . . . :old:

Graham Greenbag
08-05-2017, 06:47 AM
I wonder why most of us are anonymous. I even wonder why I'M anonymous. I just used an alias because everyone else had one.

Do we think someone will come after us if we say something negative? Do we think everyone will realize how stupid we really are? Are we worried that someone will find us and steal our ukes?

I usta belong to a flute forum, using my real name and nobody came to do me any harm, and nobody stold my flutes.

I think using our real names would make us a lot more careful about what we say.

Well, I just wondered why uke playing has to be so secret--shhhh . . . :old:

IMHO it's a matter of personal choice as to whether to use your real name or an alias, my own preference is the later as I feel it gives me more liberty to ask questions and make comment. Unfortunately there are always some folk who just seem unable to behave themselves on-line - my own 'rule of thumb' is never to say anything adverse on-line that I wouldn't be prepared to say to someone in person. This forum is particularly friendly but hey, why take a chance that some member or casual user might take a dislike to you and later cause problems? Why leave any digital footprint that can be traced back to you and interpreted in a way that you didn't want or prefer not to have made?

A level of anonymity is useful to me, but people who play Uke in my part of the world might have guessed who I am (that's fine by me) and anyone who's helpful and friendly to me here is welcome to share private conversation. It's all, IMHO, a matter of balance.

Rllink
08-05-2017, 06:50 AM
Dick,
you might find this hard to believe,
but there is a world that exists outside your asshole.

Man, that is just uncalled for. Kudos to Dick for keeping his cool.



Men usta be proud of their names, but that was in a better time. :old:Haha, I never did like my name. I always wanted just a regular name, like Dick, or Dave, or John, or Octavious. I don't use my name, although my online name is pretty close to my real name. It is my initials and my last name. But I post a lot here, and I just don't want people to search my name and come up with a couple thousand ukulele forum posts. I don't know if that would really happen.

kkimura
08-05-2017, 06:53 AM
Actually, when you sign up online, quite often you will find someone else with your name, I find quite a few, so having a 'nick' makes you easier to recognize & more individual online. ;)

That happens to me all the time. So to all you other "John Smiths" out there, my name is John Smith and I'm a ukulele addict!!!

bratsche
08-05-2017, 06:54 AM
I'm well past the age of being searched for by potential employers, but I too am a private person in real life and online, as well as rejecting or resisting some modernities (have had no TV since 2002, and never got a smartphone). But I've had computers since the mid '80s and remember when the Internet was a new thing for us ordinary folks, back when ISPs offered you a "free web page", and since it was still a friendly place mostly, I let it all hang out. Big mistake. It left me open to personal harassment by someone who picked a beef with me and found out my phone number, and other nice little annoyances involving people in high places that I won't go into here. Lesson learned. Now I want my digital footprint to be as small as I can make it.

bratsche

Down Up Dick
08-05-2017, 06:59 AM
IMHO it's a matter of personal choice as to whether to use your real name or an alias, my own preference is the later as I feel it gives me more liberty to ask questions and make comment. Unfortunately there are always some folk who just seem unable to behave themselves on line. This forum is particularly friendly but hey, why take a chance that some member or casual user might take a dislike to you and later cause problems? Why leave any digital footprint that can be traced back to you and interpreted in a way that you didn't want?

Yeah, I suppose you're correct. I'm not very internet savvy. I 'spose a lot goes on that I don't know about. Seems a shame that we can't just be ourselves anymore.

I guess, again, I'm outta step. Perhaps, mountain goat, was correct too. Ahhh, well . . . :old:

Chopped Liver
08-05-2017, 07:09 AM
I don't post my whole name because it isn't just our uke community that can read this. Anyone on the net can read what we write. I don't write anything that others shouldn't read, but I don't want people who are just surfing the net to know more about me.

I am pretty private and very cautious.

sukie
08-05-2017, 07:25 AM
Since you've put me on your ignore list Dick,
I'm doubly anonymous to you.
Personally, I think you could be a psycho killer.
My name is Jonathon. I could also be a psycho killer.
That's why I won't tell you my last name.

Bah! You don't scare me. :- D

buddhuu
08-05-2017, 07:30 AM
Dick,
you might find this hard to believe,
but there is a world that exists outside your asshole.

Take a couple of days off. When you come back, be a little less trollish.

Thanks.

Down Up Dick
08-05-2017, 07:30 AM
Well, thanks to all who posted on this thread including, mountain goat. My UU saavy has been improved.

I guess, sadly, my Uke Talk will remain safer now but even less friendly. My life path continues downhill . . . :old:

janeray1940
08-05-2017, 10:14 AM
I'm well past the age of being searched for by potential employers, but I too am a private person in real life and online, as well as rejecting or resisting some modernities (have had no TV since 2002, and never got a smartphone). But I've had computers since the mid '80s and remember when the Internet was a new thing for us ordinary folks, back when ISPs offered you a "free web page", and since it was still a friendly place mostly, I let it all hang out. Big mistake. It left me open to personal harassment by someone who picked a beef with me and found out my phone number, and other nice little annoyances involving people in high places that I won't go into here. Lesson learned. Now I want my digital footprint to be as small as I can make it.

bratsche

With you all the way on so much of this - I began working on computers in the early 1980s but reject much technology. I've never owned a television and only begrudgingly adopted a smartphone when I got sick of getting texted on my dumbphone and having to use T9 to reply! Choosing my battles and all :)

The thing about being searched by potential employers though - I'd like to think I am well past that age as well (north of 50), but as I learned during a recent and thoroughly-enjoyed unemployed period, if you have zero online presence it's potentially even more detrimental than having a social media trail of youthful escapades. I suppose it depends on one's industry, but in tech, the folks doing the hiring now are primarily millennials, and they are pretty suspicious of anyone with no online presence at all. Hence my professional website.

Booli
08-05-2017, 10:23 AM
Previous text has been deleted due to multiple disappointments in this conversation.

Graham Greenbag
08-05-2017, 10:25 AM
Yeah, I suppose you're correct. I'm not very internet savvy. I 'spose a lot goes on that I don't know about. Seems a shame that we can't just be ourselves anymore.

I guess, again, I'm outta step. Perhaps, mountain goat, was correct too. Ahhh, well . . . :old:

Perhaps I'm correct, but if I'm not then I will still have erred on the side of caution and maybe safety too. I don't believe that you're out of step, we'll certainly not for this place, but some comments have given you pause for thought and maybe that will be a help to you.

In my experience forums, like public houses, attract both similar minded folk plus a few others who are either passing through or just 'troubled' folk - to my mind that situation has been the same for centuries and folk have had to be careful. I don't visit public houses much but when I do I'm always cautious regardless of how nice a place it is.

Rllink
08-05-2017, 11:24 AM
Perhaps I'm correct, but if I'm not then I will still have erred on the side of caution and maybe safety too. I don't believe that you're out of step, we'll certainly not for this place, but some comments have given you pause for thought and maybe that will be a help to you.

In my experience forums, like public houses, attract both similar minded folk plus a few others who are either passing through or just 'troubled' folk - to my mind that situation has been the same for centuries and folk have had to be careful. I don't visit public houses much but when I do I'm always cautious regardless of how nice a place it is.
I am always mindful of identity theft, but when it comes to privacy, I grew up in rural Iowa when party lines were our means of communication with the outside world. Privacy just isn't much of an issue with me. I'm not a private person.

Booli
08-05-2017, 04:12 PM
Sorry folks, but after I post this note, I'm unsubbed and leaving this thread, and have already removed my previous post.

Mahalo.

sukie
08-05-2017, 05:50 PM
Well, thanks to all who posted on this thread including, mountain goat. My UU saavy has been improved.

I guess, sadly, my Uke Talk will remain safer now but even less friendly. My life path continues downhill . . . :old:
Don't let 'em get you down. It should be fun here. It's ukulele. It is always sad when things go south, but not everybody is like that.

Aloha, Down Up Dick.

ksiegel
08-05-2017, 06:10 PM
I wonder why most of us are anonymous. I even wonder why I'M anonymous. I just used an alias because everyone else had one.

Do we think someone will come after us if we say something negative? Do we think everyone will realize how stupid we really are? Are we worried that someone will find us and steal our ukes?

I usta belong to a flute forum, using my real name and nobody came to do me any harm, and nobody stold my flutes.

I think using our real names would make us a lot more careful about what we say.

Well, I just wondered why uke playing has to be so secret--shhhh . . . :old:

I use my real name - First initial of first name, entire last name - as my name online, just about anywhere it isn't already taken.

And when I sign, I use my real first name.

My videos can be found on YouTube under my full name, but I don't use Facebook or Twitter, as neither ever appealed to me.

As for using an alias, well... that reminds me of my CB days, back in the 1970s, in West Virginia. I thnk I'd like to forget the CB radio, thank you...

The only other name I really use on any fora other than my real one, is on Ravelry, Social Media for us Fiber Geeks. There, I'm "Nancyshusband", because that's what they used to call me in the yarn shop, before I started spinning, and they decided that they needed to know my real name...



-Kurt

Graham Greenbag
08-05-2017, 08:25 PM
I am always mindful of identity theft, but when it comes to privacy, I grew up in rural Iowa when party lines were our means of communication with the outside world. Privacy just isn't much of an issue with me. I'm not a private person.

I think that that is an interesting and helpful way to look at things. I've been fortunate enough not to shared a party line - a degree of mutual trust and respect is required for their harmonious use - but as a young person I did have to use public telephone (call) boxs that were far from private. There are those things that are necessarily private and you are mindful of how and where they are discussed, there are identity theft issues to be aware of, there are things that you are happy to share within a close group of friends within notinally private spaces (someone's home or some rented space) and there are things you are happy to share with friends in public places.

This is a public place to share with friends, so long as you're mindful of that then I don't believe that there are any likely hazards; unlikely hazards exist, and just have to be managed, in all the groups and in all places that we might converse in. Of course there are occasionally downsides of conversation in public places but there are, IMHO, vastly more upsides to be enjoyed, cherished and informed by.

mikebell48
08-05-2017, 08:28 PM
I use my real name on all my social media. I'm still alive. I also give my away my age.

Graham Greenbag
08-05-2017, 09:04 PM
I use my real name on all my social media. I'm still alive. I also give my away my age.

I'm glad that that has been your experience and wouldn't be at all surprised if it was typical of most others too, but I'm unsure of what point you're making.

As far as I know there is no dispute that some people do get stalked, do get trolled, do get various forms of on-line abuse, do get threatened and do suffer from identity theft. I'm glad not to have suffered from such attacks so far and hope that you and other UU members will not suffer from then to. I might not be correct but to me it seems best to be aware of those hazards and take avoiding action rather than have to deal with them as and if they occur.

acmespaceship
08-06-2017, 07:39 AM
Hi, everybody on the entire internet, my name is Crabmueller J. Fondant. I live in the greater Pittsburgh area. I won't type my exact street address here, but you can find it in a matter of moments.

Is anyone else attending the Scranton Uke Scrumble on September 15-19th? I can't wait! I'll be spending that whole week in Scranton. I'm bringing my Ohana soprano.

In my sigline you'll see a list of all my nice instruments, most of which I will be leaving at my empty home while I am away. See you in Scranton!

-------------
Blackbird Farallon
Kamaka Soprano
Mya-Moe Tenor resonator
Ohana Soprano
Martin D28 guitar
Wouldn't you bet I have a good stereo and a nice tv, too?
:biglaugh:

Yeah, sure, chances are you can get away with posts like this once or twice, but does it really strike you as a good idea? I can drive around with no seat belt and most of the time it's ok!

Jim Hanks
08-06-2017, 08:42 AM
I didn't notice this thread at first but tuned in to figure out what Jon did to get banned. :eek: Hope he's feeling better shortly as I generally like to read his posts.

As far as this thread goes, I use my real name on all music related sites on the off chance that someone who wants to hear my music can easily find me.

Graham Greenbag
08-06-2017, 09:56 AM
I didn't notice this thread at first but tuned in to figure out what Jon did to get banned. :eek: Hope he's feeling better shortly as I generally like to read his posts.


Life happens, stress happens and reactions happen - show me someone who never does anything wrong and I'll show you someone who never does anything. Having been alerted to the name I watched his latest video (different thread) plus a few more of his. I thought my time well spent and hope that he'll be back after a short 'rest' from here.

Rllink
08-06-2017, 10:22 AM
I think that that is an interesting and helpful way to look at things. I've been fortunate enough not to shared a party line - a degree of mutual trust and respect is required for their harmonious use - but as a young person I did have to use public telephone (call) boxs that were far from private. There are those things that are necessarily private and you are mindful of how and where they are discussed, there are identity theft issues to be aware of, there are things that you are happy to share within a close group of friends within notinally private spaces (someone's home or some rented space) and there are things you are happy to share with friends in public places.

Haha, in an alternate world maybe. On our party line there were four families and each one had a separate ring. We were two longs and a short. But our neighbor up the road was three longs. Listening in on my neighbor up the road talk to her boyfriend was my nightly entertainment. There was no respect when it came to party lines.

UkingViking
08-06-2017, 12:17 PM
It seems like the advantages of internet anonymity have already been explained through several posts.
I use my full name on Facebook, though even that is not always smart. That calls for privacy settings so not everyone can see your fotos, posts, etc. and I never log into any 3rd party pages with my FB account.

Other than that I see no good reason for using your real name online - unless you need to promote your real business or art through fora or social media. If you want people to be able to find you, you can't prevent them at the same time. But most of us are amateurs with no need for that. I don't need someone googling my name to find a YouTube video of me singing out of key for the Seasons, that doesn't make people take me more serious for what I work with.

mountain goat
08-07-2017, 02:21 PM
Dick,
I am very sorry.
I behaved like a total ass.
I had no right to empty my own trash
on you and the good people here.

Mezcalero
08-07-2017, 03:27 PM
Dick,
I am very sorry.
I behaved like a total ass.
I had no right to empty my own trash
on you and the good people here.

we all have our moments . . . glad to see you are in a better place!

mmfitzsimons
08-07-2017, 03:59 PM
I wonder why most of us are anonymous.

You've obviously never heard me play. ;)

Actually, I am posting under my name. Given how many of my major retailers have been hacked, I seriously doubt Uke Underground will be my undoing at this point.

And luckily, all the things I've done that I don't want you to know about I did before the digital era, so there's no public shame in using my own name, haha...

I don't use an alias anywhere. I think it makes me a little more accountable for what I say. Something about anonymity, not just online, but driving around in traffic, can bring out the worst in people. (Nice to see Mountain Goat come back to apologize, and take ownership for his previous comments, alias or not. You also handled that really well, alias or not... undermining my whole thesis, darn you!)

But there's nothing secretive about my love for ukes, that's for sure, boy I bet some of my friends and family wish I were a bit more secretive, lol...

Down Up Dick
08-07-2017, 04:50 PM
Dick,
I am very sorry.
I behaved like a total ass.
I had no right to empty my own trash
on you and the good people here.

Okay, mountain goat, no problem, I've also posted stuff that I wish I hadn't. Enjoy the evening. :old:

Dean Beaver
08-07-2017, 05:06 PM
I must be a bit foolish .. I use my real name, and my real photo as my avatar .. so someone can copy it and use it as their fake passport ..
Just don't blame me if you do actually try, and get arrested and detained at the airport :)

Seriously though, I choose to accept accountability for who I choose to be, because we all choose to be someone when it comes down to having a public or online identity, I choose to be myself, for better or worse, but I choose to be accountable for myself.

If worse comes to worst, and someone wants to insult me or be maliciously vindictive because I like a different Ukulele to them, I say go for your life, I've got Ambulance Fund Cover anyway, so if someone's insults hurt me too much I can just call an ambulance and they'll attend to my wounded ego.

Happy Ukeing :)

mmfitzsimons
08-07-2017, 05:11 PM
I must be a bit foolish .. I use my real name, and my real photo as my avatar

I think it's inspiring the way you refuse to let your furry little mitten paws stop you from enjoying the ukulele.

Dean Beaver
08-07-2017, 05:33 PM
I think it's inspiring the way you refuse to let your furry little mitten paws stop you from enjoying the ukulele.

Thanks :)

Yeh I don't let anything stop me, I even do a bit of fingerpicking.
I tried playing with my teeth, like Jimi does, but I accidentally chewed through the neck, Dam It, so I refrain from trying that anymore.

Nickie
08-07-2017, 05:47 PM
Pretty funny, Beaver....

I'm not telling you all if this is my real name or not. So I leave you to wonder about it. That is, if you care to.
This is a silly thread.
Therefore, I'm going to bed.

70sSanO
08-07-2017, 06:33 PM
Hi, everybody on the entire internet, my name is Crabmueller J. Fondant. I live in the greater Pittsburgh area. I won't type my exact street address here, but you can find it in a matter of moments.

Is anyone else attending the Scranton Uke Scrumble on September 15-19th? I can't wait! I'll be spending that whole week in Scranton. I'm bringing my Ohana soprano.

In my sigline you'll see a list of all my nice instruments, most of which I will be leaving at my empty home while I am away. See you in Scranton!

-------------
Blackbird Farallon
Kamaka Soprano
Mya-Moe Tenor resonator
Ohana Soprano
Martin D28 guitar
Wouldn't you bet I have a good stereo and a nice tv, too?
:biglaugh:

Yeah, sure, chances are you can get away with posts like this once or twice, but does it really strike you as a good idea? I can drive around with no seat belt and most of the time it's ok!

+1

This for me is the real reason. It is so easy to talk about a trip or what you have, especially if a person is on different forums. Not wanting to be overly paranoid, but it is not that different than posting on Facebook.

John

bighatbulls
08-07-2017, 07:51 PM
No offense, but this is why I prefer to remain semi anonymous. Its DrCreosote's fault, he teaches cyber security at a local JC.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4obWARnZeAs

sam13
08-10-2017, 05:01 PM
Well if people Google me professionally, I would like to keep my UAS and UU forum life private. Plain and simple.

plunker
08-14-2017, 05:54 AM
My real name is so common that it would not make a difference. I hope I would never post anything that was offensive or hurtful. Some of it may be sophomoric. But not hurtful. Please squash the rumor. My real name is not Paul Plunker.