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pix.fairydust
08-20-2017, 09:44 AM
Hi everyone,

What are your views on hanging your (most expensive) ukulele? I don't trust wall mounts but have the parachord ukulele hangers from ukulelehangers.com and am thinking about hanging mine from a metal bar I have in this little cubby like area in my bedroom...

All opinions welcome!

mikelz777
08-20-2017, 09:59 AM
I'm a no guy. I'm comforted knowing mine are always safe in the protective (and more Rh stable) cocoon of their cases.

actadh
08-20-2017, 10:01 AM
I have some pretty sturdy ukes and don't hang any of them. Easy enough to uncase them to play.

Rllink
08-20-2017, 10:09 AM
I have one of those paracord hangers on mine, and I hang it off of that at times, like when I'm gigging I hang it from my music stand, but it doesn't live that way. But mostly because I don't keep it out n display. I put it away when I'm not playing it.

janeray1940
08-20-2017, 10:10 AM
NO all the way, but then I live in earthquake country in a house near the beach that gets really dusty since the windows are always open. I do have an old cheapie thrift-store guitar on a hanger, which I rarely play, but every time I take it down to play it I spend more time cleaning the dust off than actually playing!

ScooterD35
08-20-2017, 10:13 AM
“Would you hang your ukulele?”

Only if it was found guilty in a fair trial by a jury of its peers.


Scooter

derbyhat
08-20-2017, 11:40 AM
“Would you hang your ukulele?”

Only if it was found guilty in a fair trial by a jury of its peers.


Scooter
Winner of the thread!

I'm anxious to hear opinions. I'm considering buying some wall hangers off etsy.

Booli
08-20-2017, 12:02 PM
With as many ukes as I have, I cannot have them all out at once, and also it's a real pain for me to keep a few in cases, so I have a sort of rotation of the ones in play, and those get hung next to me on the wall. All of my ukes have self-made hangers on the tuning pegs (as well as straps, made from bootlaces, regardless of scale length).

I have no hesitation in hanging up my ukes. If I kept them on stands, or even one of those Hercules Christmas-tree things that holds 8 ukes, I simply do not have the floor space and find them inconvenient, so instead they hang on the wall on hooks.

I've never had a problem with earthquakes here in NJ LOL, and since I always wipe them down, both before and after playing, I dont have a dust buildup problem.

The ukes and guitars that are out of rotation are all in their cases, and in a closet, that is dedicated for their storage when not being played.

Would that I could to build a humidor like kohanmike, but that is a long-away future project. With such a humidor/display case, I'd have no problem keeping more of the ukes at arms length in my office/studio room.

Booli
08-20-2017, 12:23 PM
...I often wonder what the big deal is when I see a question like this. It looks like a new person has been told some stupid information; "Don't hang your ukes up in the house, they might get ...........". ...

I too abhor the fact that too often beginners are fed with misinformation, and have decided that it must be an act of malicious ignorance from an employee who is a heavy-metal guitarist giving advice to insure that the newbie has a bad time in the hope that they too will become 'guitarded' just like them, instead of discovering something wonderful for themselves that may not be as mainstream as guitar.

However, I am glad that the community on UU and elsewhere that has experienced folks are available to offer advice.

If you value you sanity, or want to have a nice day, do NOT go and spend time reading the replies to newbie questions on reddit's ukulele section, for 99% of the time, the advice given is just parroted over and again from other beginners or from folks who are willfully trying to sabotage a newbie, maybe out of jealousy and incompetence.

I have tried to offer help there over on reddit, but I cannot stem the tide of willful and malicious ignorance. Mind you, this is not a matter of having a different opinion, but I've seen advice given with full confidence of the giver, that if followed would cause permanent physical harm and/or ruin an ukulele completely.

I gave up on trying to fight the stupid. Someone here on the forum had the following in their signature:

"You cannot reason with someone who does not rely on reason."

JackLuis
08-20-2017, 12:25 PM
I hang four on the wall and three racked on the floor next to my "Play Station" computer chair. I play five most every day and the other's a few times a week. The only one I really worry about is my Cedar and Rosewood Ohana, but I keep it out so I can play it.

kypfer
08-20-2017, 01:00 PM
Four of my ukuleles (plus several guitars, a couple of mandolins, a banjo, a balalaika and a couple of dulcimers) all hang on cup hooks screwed into the wall using my homemade version of a paracord hanger. My bass guitar and the banjo are really quite heavy and I don't have an issue with them in this configuration, the ukuleles don't even get thought about.

The weak spot, if there is one, is the 1" screw into the plug in the brickwork. Anything heavy enough to rip that out is likely to be too heavy to lift up there in the first place!

DownUpDave
08-20-2017, 01:08 PM
Four of my ukuleles (plus several guitars, a couple of mandolins, a banjo, a balalaika and a couple of dulcimers) all hang on cup hooks screwed into the wall using my homemade version of a paracord hanger. My bass guitar and the banjo are really quite heavy and I don't have an issue with them in this configuration, the ukuleles don't even get thought about.

The weak spot, if there is one, is the 1" screw into the plug in the brickwork. Anything heavy enough to rip that out is likely to be too heavy to lift up there in the first place!


Totally agree. Walk into the best Guitar shop in town and notice all the instruments are hanging. The 12th Fret in Toronto regularly has vintage Martins and Gibsons worth over $10,000 hanging on hooks. It think hanging a uke is just fine!!!!!!!!!!

Booli
08-20-2017, 01:29 PM
Totally agree. Walk into the best Guitar shop in town and notice all the instruments are hanging. The 12th Fret in Toronto regularly has vintage Martins and Gibsons worth over $10,000 hanging on hooks. It think hanging a uke is just fine!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, and keep in mind that most ukes weigh maybe 2 lbs or less, while most electric guitars and bass guitars are 6+ lbs, so weight should not be an issue in hanging a uke.

bunnyf
08-20-2017, 01:36 PM
I have always hung all my ukes and guitars, on "string thing" adjustable hooks on my walls. When I lived in Jersey, it was just solid body electrics but now we have a uke family and acoustic guitars but we spend our time either in super humid south Florida or central coast Cali right on the ocean. If I lived in an area where I had to concern myself w/ temp, humidity or other environmental issues, I might think differently. I like having them out to grab in an instant, whenever the mood strikes. My instruments range in value from $50-1000. I guess if I had something super expensive I might think differently, but I doubt it.

maki66
08-20-2017, 02:19 PM
Most of our stringed instruments hang.
The most expensive is a Mid Missouri Mandolin> Its one of his top of the line models with all the trimmings.
We are very fortunate to live in an area of coastal southern California where the humidity is 40-60% most of the time.
No air conditioning or heating in our house.

We are super aware of Santa Ana winds which blow out of the Mojave desert and can go to zero humidity in minutes!
CASE THE INSTRUMENTS!!!!!!

On the bright side, Santa Ana's also mean epic off shore winds which make for great surfing, if there is a swell.

kohanmike
08-20-2017, 07:14 PM
See my avatar, all hanging on leather straps on the tuners from brass screws with hooks inside a humid control cabinet.

pix.fairydust
08-20-2017, 10:25 PM
Wow, a MASSIVE THANKS to everyone for your opinions and advice, I really appreciate it and I'm totally just going to do what is best for me and my playing and not worry too much but enjoy �� this community is great!

Croaky Keith
08-20-2017, 11:16 PM
Yes, I agree with just about everything said here, unless there is a danger to your uke from the environment, just do what you like, it's all good. :)

quiltingshirley
08-21-2017, 06:28 AM
We hang everything securely on a wall in the family room and some going into the living room. All are on either the Uke or guitar thingies. Have a couple of neat surfboard designs for the living room. We live in earthquake area at the beach. If they weren't hanging, they wouldn't get played. All are high end but we appreciate them and when we can no longer play them who will. We have 10 in one room and play them enough that they aren't that dusty. (That's what our swifter's for) Do what works for you so they get played. Oh yes, we hang the Ohana bass but the big Upright gets it's own spot on a stand.

Ukulelerick9255
08-21-2017, 04:14 PM
I'd only hang it if it committed a capital crime like murder.

kohanmike
08-21-2017, 09:27 PM
Thought I would post bigger photos of both my uke cabinet and my bass uke/mini electric bass racks.

http://www.kohanmike.com/uploads/Shelf 7 ukes 800.jpg

http://www.kohanmike.com/uploads/Bass wall rack 1024.jpg

deznuchs
08-21-2017, 09:53 PM
Thought I would post bigger photos of both my uke cabinet and my bass uke/mini electric bass racks.

http://www.kohanmike.com/uploads/Uke shelf group 800.jpg

http://www.kohanmike.com/uploads/Bass wall rack 1024.jpg

Holy batman! What a collection kohanmike

robedney
08-22-2017, 06:00 AM
I'm going to get opinionated here for a moment: I sometimes think that, in order to create a cottage industry making hard-shell cases and nifty humidifiers, some folks started a rumor that hanging your uke up is the path to ruin. Now, most wooden violins are still made with hide glue, but ukes are not. Hide glue, with sufficient humidity and ambient heat, will indeed give up the ghost -- and that's still a rare occurrence. Most uke makers I know of use a more modern version aliphatic resin glue, which tolerates humidity and heat quite well.

The other issue has to do with the expansion/contraction of wood with changes in temperature and/or humidity. The basic uke design takes this into account quite nicely. Unless the instrument was made with badly seasoned wood in the first place it can take quite a lot.

I love ukes not only to play, but to look at. If it's in a case it's not being played and it's rendered invisible. I have no argument with -- nor intend no criticism of -- folks who do the case/humidifier thing. There's nothing wrong with that, and there is some potential good in it. However, it's not for me. There are times when that case would be just enough of an impediment to keep me from playing and and off through the day :)

Landshark
08-22-2017, 01:01 PM
do what ever you like, my guitars are on stands my ukes in their cases, it could easily be the other way around too

perep
08-22-2017, 03:14 PM
See my avatar, all hanging on leather straps on the tuners from brass screws with hooks inside a humid control cabinet.

I have THREE cabinets like yours but twice as high , how did you humidify the cabinet. Looks like glass suspended from bottom, what is underneath

kohanmike
08-22-2017, 05:27 PM
I have THREE cabinets like yours but twice as high , how did you humidify the cabinet. Looks like glass suspended from bottom, what is underneath

There are two trays on the shelf at the bottom with covers that I slide open and closed or remove as the humidity changes. There's one analog and one digital hygrometer.

http://www.kohanmike.com/uploads/Uke shelf trays.jpg

ScooterD35
08-22-2017, 07:16 PM
I'm going to get opinionated here for a moment: I sometimes think that, in order to create a cottage industry making hard-shell cases and nifty humidifiers, some folks started a rumor that hanging your uke up is the path to ruin. Now, most wooden violins are still made with hide glue, but ukes are not. Hide glue, with sufficient humidity and ambient heat, will indeed give up the ghost -- and that's still a rare occurrence. Most uke makers I know of use a more modern version aliphatic resin glue, which tolerates humidity and heat quite well.

The other issue has to do with the expansion/contraction of wood with changes in temperature and/or humidity. The basic uke design takes this into account quite nicely. Unless the instrument was made with badly seasoned wood in the first place it can take quite a lot.

I love ukes not only to play, but to look at. If it's in a case it's not being played and it's rendered invisible. I have no argument with -- nor intend no criticism of -- folks who do the case/humidifier thing. There's nothing wrong with that, and there is some potential good in it. However, it's not for me. There are times when that case would be just enough of an impediment to keep me from playing and and off through the day :)


I don’t know about humidifiers, but cases have been around almost as long as the instruments they were designed to protect. No rumors or conspiracies, just the convenience and protection of a case to safely store and transport fine musical instruments.

As far as hide glue’s strength and longevity is concerned, Martin used it exclusively up until the move to the new factory in 1964. That means that every Vintage Martin Uke without “Made in USA” stamped inside was made with hide glue. Pretty durable stuff. In fact, one of the reasons that Martin switched to Alphiatic Resin glues was that it releases faster when exposed to heat and moisture (steam) for repair purposes.

I’m also in the to-each-their-own camp. For myself, I keep my guitars and Ukes in their cases. I had one friend who’s hanger strap failed and his mandolin fell off the wall and crunched it’s lower bout. Another friend kept his guitar on a stand in his living room until it got knocked over (by him) and snapped off the headstock. As a result of their experiences, I don’t take any chances with my instruments.


Scooter

lelouden
08-22-2017, 07:45 PM
I live in the desert of Arizona and I hang all mine. I won't play them if I don't. I have several in the room Im in most often and a few off in a bedroom out of cases. I never play those in the bedroom. Out of sight out of mind. I live where they do suggest you carefully humidify. I thing there are sellers that won't warranty (is that a myth) if you haven't humidified. Most instruments are made of aged wood. Is that wood aged for years in a controlled environment? Im guessing some are part of the time and some aren't. I have ukes ranging from $1500 on down and they are all out and so far they have been fine. My house stays right around 30-40% depending on the room. I do have each of them with a cigar humidifier dropped inside the sound hole and if I remember to add water I do but really I don't obsess about it.

I thought it was really interesting to see a video of the Mya Moa builder answer this question about his brand. He said he builds in a controlled humidified room but his opinion was that if your room wasn't below 25% he felt they would be just fine. That really put my mind at ease about my ukes.

perep
08-22-2017, 08:05 PM
There are two trays on the shelf at the bottom with covers that I slide open and closed or remove as the humidity changes. There's one analog and one digital hygrometer.

http://www.kohanmike.com/uploads/Uke shelf trays.jpg

Just a tray of water with cover will solve this problem. The water just evaporates in cabinet? Seems like it is too simple. I have the meters in each case like yours and have not so far had this problem

kohanmike
08-22-2017, 09:03 PM
Just a tray of water with cover will solve this problem. The water just evaporates in cabinet? Seems like it is too simple. I have the meters in each case like yours and have not so far had this problem

Sorry, I wasn't clear, the two trays are filled with water, moving the covers allow more or less evaporation as is needed to keep a 45% to 55% humidity level.

perep
08-23-2017, 03:46 AM
Thanks for advice

Croaky Keith
08-30-2017, 10:34 PM
Nice work, Dean, I found that I picked up my uke a lot more when it was readily available on a stand, & not in a case. :)

Dean Beaver
08-31-2017, 03:58 AM
Thanks.
Yes I'm liking it, as I thought I would.
I keep my Tenor in the case and often just grab one of these for a quick melody, as long as they are tuned it's just a simple grab and play scenario.
Looks good too.
It's all about Happy Ukeing.

Graham Greenbag
08-31-2017, 06:01 AM
Hi everyone,

What are your views on hanging your (most expensive) ukulele? I don't trust wall mounts but have the parachord ukulele hangers from ukulelehangers.com and am thinking about hanging mine from a metal bar I have in this little cubby like area in my bedroom...

All opinions welcome!

Surely there is no easy answer that is going to always be right or wrong, it's so situational.

How expensive is your most expensive Uke and is that cost significant to you? Is a particular Uke special to you and irreplaceable? Might others in your household mistreat a Uke left out on display or is there potential for accidental damage? Do you (not everyone does) actually live somewhere where changes in humidity are significant?

Personally I would be happy to hang any and all my Ukes on a wall and have a Uke left out ready to play by my chair all of the time. The rest are bagged or boxed but that's more about being space efficient that anything else. My Ukes are all laminates so are hardy and relatively inexpensive, there is zero chance of the hanger failing (it's so strong compared to the weight of the Uke) and I'd rather take the minimal risk of accidental damage to an instrument than hide it away. If you have a solid instrument and live somewhere where humidity fluctuations matter then casing it is sensible but otherwise let your Uke hang and enjoy its availability.

AlohaKine
08-31-2017, 01:54 PM
If it's expensive like a Kamaka, only if you had a controlled environment with proper humidity, otherwise you better have it stored in a proper case with humidification packs like D'addario's Planet Waves Two Way Humidification System!