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robedney
09-27-2017, 08:16 PM
Really. No tricks, nothing up my sleeve. Please read all of the below before entering this drawing (even though it is, admittedly, a “wall of text”). You have a 1 in 100 chance of winning the uke.

Some of you know that I’ve been prototyping a carbon fiber hybrid ukulele. At the moment I’m focused on tenors, but once I’ve nailed down the final design other sizes will be coming.

As I’ve been doing this I’ve accumulated several prototype instruments and have given a few away. Now, the fact is that I wouldn’t be as far along in the process – or perhaps sufficiently motivated to continue – without Ukulele Underground. So, it makes total sense to offer a freebee here!!!

This is a “play anywhere” uke. You can bash things with it too, the ABS and carbon fiber bits being all space-agey and durable. You can immerse it in water so long as you dry off the wood parts when it pops back up.

Pics, details and video below. Before we get to that though, there are a few rules:

1. You must really want it. In other words, be fair to other UU members: If all you play is sopranos, consider not entering.
2. You must be a UU member, and you must have become a member at least a day before this post.
3. This is a prototype. It is not a final version of the Orca. Although “Orca” is carved on the headstock I will be sticking a label inside with the word “Prototype” boldly on display. You agree to leave that label in place.
4. You will please explain the above to anyone who sees or tries the uke.
5. You agree not to sell it. You can give it away, so long as you pass along these rules.
6. You agree that you won’t “review” this uke. You can certainly discuss it on UU and say anything you like so long as you disclose that it is a prototype and not typical of an Orca. In fact I welcome any such discussion/video/NUD post, etc.
7. You must enter you’re UU username, which I promise never to abuse. Do not enter your email address unless you want to be on my mailing list, which I also promise never to sell or abuse – and will use infrequently.

Shipping:
I will ship via USPS Priority anywhere in the US for free. I’ve shipped our violins all over the world and it’s sometimes a real pain to do so – even to the UK, which is weird. If you live outside the US I don’t want to deny you participation, but you agree to handle all shipping details, pay for shipping, email a PDF of all applicable forms and the shipping label. I will deliver to any major carrier within a reasonable distance to me.

Instrument Details:

Orca prototype tenor ukulele. This was primarily an experiment in bracing patterns for the top and bottom. It is fitted with Worth Brown low-G strings and the sound – to my ear – is a tad muted. If I were to keep it I would probably switch to the Southcoast set with the wound low G and C with their high tension A and E, and experience suggest that would punch it up to “just fine”. My guess is that it would sound pretty good with any higher tension strings when tuned re-entrant (high G).

The back, neck and rear of the headstock are vacuum formed from ABS, which is tough stuff. The neck is filled with epoxy resin mixed with phenolic micro-balloons (for acoustical mass) and is reinforced by a carbon fiber “beam” through its length. The top is hand-laid (wet) carbon fiber fabric in epoxy resin, graduated in thickness, cured under vacuum and oven post-cured.

The fretboard and headstock are Pau Ferro. The bridge is Pau Ferro with Padauk. Standard metal frets.

When I first made the mould I had to convert from an inside mould (for laying-up carbon fiber, which made a killer uke but at a price point I didn’t want) to an outside mould, which has to account for the thickness of the material. I goofed, making a narrower neck than I wanted. I made a few from this mould anyway because I was focused on sound. As a result, this instrument is 1.3” at the nut and 1.54” at the 12th fret, narrower – and with less flair – than I want. The mould has now been corrected, but I find this instrument playable with my fat fingers.

Tuners are cheap Grover friction, which work fine (but keep a screwdriver handy). The final version will sport something spiffier, probably geared but straight through.

Nut and saddle are real bone. There is a strap button and a para-chord strap which I will include at no additional cost ��

How to enter:

I’ve created something on Google sheets and it’s pretty self-explanatory. Click on the link below and enter your UU user-name (and email if you so choose) next to the number you want (1-100).
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LS2wq_qHEnTqB-ZZ9zamln9EGEqgtwk21xAK5gfEf9Y/edit?usp=sharing
The drawing ends when the list is full or Monday next (9/2/17), whichever comes first. I will then do a quick video of using an online random number generator to determine the winner. The winner will be announced with much fanfare on UU and by private message.

103353103354103355

And here's a very quick and very dirty video, recorded straight into my Ipad -- no external mic, no EQ, etc:


https://youtu.be//Sn5NuKL9KUE

robedney
09-27-2017, 09:08 PM
Thanks Booli. I think I've fixed that -- at least I can see it. Would you mind trying again?

Ziret
09-27-2017, 09:23 PM
The video still doesn't play. Also, I think the spreadsheet is set to view only, as that's what it said when I tried to write on it.

All that aside, this is a very generous offer. Thank you for thinking of it.

robedney
09-27-2017, 09:38 PM
OK, I think I have: Allowed sharing on the entry spreadsheet AND set the video to public so that it all works now. Please holler if I've still got it wrong :)

70sSanO
09-27-2017, 10:09 PM
See below.

John

70sSanO
09-27-2017, 10:12 PM
Okay... I entered my UU name on the spreadsheet. How do I save it?

I don't have a Google ID.

I re-opened it and it is still there, so I guess I don't have to save it like an normal excel sheet... cool!

John

robinboyd
09-27-2017, 10:40 PM
Done. Thank you. I was just mourning having wasted a chunk of money on a uke that is unsalvageable. At least this way I might have the opportunity to replace it with something that works :)

Croaky Keith
09-27-2017, 10:50 PM
A most generous offer, thank you for thinking of this. :)

I liked the sound of it in your video, I won't enter, as I'm in the UK, but good luck to you who do.

PhilUSAFRet
09-28-2017, 01:33 AM
Thanks for your generosity. Have my fingers crossed.

Stagehand
09-28-2017, 02:04 AM
What a wonderful and generous opportunity! Thank you!!

maki66
09-28-2017, 02:04 AM
Thanks for doing this!
Looking forward to your product roll out.
Good luck everyone.

EDW
09-28-2017, 02:36 AM
Thanks for your generosity. Have my fingers crossed.

Must make chording difficult!

prairieschooner
09-28-2017, 06:30 AM
Cool! I'm in!!

MickeyD
09-28-2017, 07:56 AM
Entered! Very cool of you to do this!

stevejfc
09-28-2017, 08:24 AM
Cool idea. I'm sure you mean it ends on 10/2/17, not 9/2/17��

MARKbOC
09-28-2017, 08:29 AM
Very cool thanks for a fun opportunity and good luck with the product moving forward :)

actadh
09-28-2017, 09:08 AM
It looks very neat, and what a cool concept for giveaway. While wood is great, I find the most versatility in my non-wood ukes.

Ukecaster
09-28-2017, 09:16 AM
Thanks so much! What fun! I'm in, with #29. Good luck to all.

Osprey
09-28-2017, 09:21 AM
October 2nd is my birthday, just saying!

Booli
09-28-2017, 09:38 AM
Thanks Booli. I think I've fixed that -- at least I can see it. Would you mind trying again?

Yes, video working now - thanks for fixing it. I deleted my previous post since the issue is no longer relevant.

I also can confirm that adding my name to the list is persistent on the Google Sheet. N.B. to other folks, you need to press 'ENTER' after you type your name into the box for it to be 'saved' into the sheet.

Rob - thanks ever so much for offering this wonderful instrument. I am excited for your future projects along this path.

Should I be so lucky to win, I would cherish and play this one all the time. It sounds GREAT in your video.

Mahalo :)

robedney
09-28-2017, 09:59 AM
Cool idea. I'm sure you mean it ends on 10/2/17, not 9/2/17��

Ooooops! Yup, 10/2/17.

spookelele
09-28-2017, 10:53 AM
Not to be the fly in the ointment.. but it looks like the doc is open to anyone to edit... which includes removing or moving entries.

robedney
09-28-2017, 11:21 AM
Not to be the fly in the ointment.. but it looks like the doc is open to anyone to edit... which includes removing or moving entries.

Yup, but I couldn't imagine why anyone would want to because no one -- including me -- knows what the winning number will be. I just didn't have the time to figure out how to lock it down, and this is us -- UU -- so I figured trust would work well enough :D

Osprey
09-28-2017, 11:36 AM
Not to be the fly in the ointment.. but it looks like the doc is open to anyone to edit... which includes removing or moving entries.

I feel that there is enough respect here in the UU membership that no one would try to game the system.

Nickie
09-28-2017, 01:00 PM
I love the way this uke looks. A friend of mine owned a carbon fiber guitar that had loads of tone and volume, but sold it to pay for her move to Austin.
I really like the way it sounds, too.
I would love this uke, I have UAS again and no money to feed it.
Thanks for offering it, it's a most generous gift for a deserving uker!
Do you really build fiddles? Any carbon fiber ones?

UkeDoxie
09-28-2017, 05:50 PM
Thank you!

prairieschooner
09-28-2017, 06:09 PM
I would love the chance to win one of these & since it would be relatively easy for anyone to find another one's number ....mine is #52...
Love the Carbon Fiber appearance!

Chopped Liver
09-28-2017, 06:24 PM
Ooo! Cool! I'm in!

Johnzalez
09-28-2017, 06:38 PM
Thank you for the chance! I love carbon fiber!

LimousinLil
09-28-2017, 07:36 PM
Entered! Very many thanks for the chance ... I am intrigued by the idea of carbon fibre and have long coveted a Blackbird. (Do hope your ukes won't be quite so pricey!)

librainian
09-28-2017, 07:55 PM
I'm in for this intriguing offer. I've played a carbon fiber top tenor recently and it sounds sweet indeeed. If anyone is worried about some untoward editing of others entries, I will simply say that google drive docs have version control on them. The document owner can see what each person has changed and undo changes too. Just a tip in case you were unaware.

Best of luck to all entrants and many thanks to robedney for the generosity to the community.

TaoCat
09-28-2017, 07:59 PM
Thanks, a very lovely gesture.

robedney
09-29-2017, 05:09 AM
I love the way this uke looks. A friend of mine owned a carbon fiber guitar that had loads of tone and volume, but sold it to pay for her move to Austin.
I really like the way it sounds, too.
I would love this uke, I have UAS again and no money to feed it.
Thanks for offering it, it's a most generous gift for a deserving uker!
Do you really build fiddles? Any carbon fiber ones?

Hi Nickie,

Yup, carbon fiber violins is what we do. You can see a sampling at http://www.elixirviolins.com

I'm curious, what's the source of the quote in your signature "Music washes from the soul, the dust of everyday living." I love that!

Nickie
09-29-2017, 08:30 AM
Hi Nickie,

Yup, carbon fiber violins is what we do. You can see a sampling at http://www.elixirviolins.com

I'm curious, what's the source of the quote in your signature "Music washes from the soul, the dust of everyday living." I love that!

The fiddles look and sound fabulous. I wish I could still play. Two injuries took that skill away back in the 70s.
I met Johnny Gimble once, he was accompanying Willie Nelson in a "pasture concert", for some charity, back in Texas. Johnny played the 5 string fiddle, the only one I had ever seen. That got me interested in Western Swing music, which led to my love of Bluegrass music. I incorporate imitations of both genres in my jam sessions.
Robert, I honestly don't recall who gave me that quote.

Uke man
09-29-2017, 08:53 AM
I went to your site, read and listened to the sound clip for the violin which sounded good to me.
I didn't know you or any other company made carbon fiber ukuleles except for Blackbird.

Its interesting that your both in the San Francisco bay area.

I'm waiting to see and hear more of your ukulele.

Welcome to the ukulele world.

Booli
09-29-2017, 09:17 AM
...I'm curious, what's the source of the quote in your signature "Music washes from the soul, the dust of everyday living." I love that!


...I honestly don't recall who gave me that quote.

Sorry for the digression, but I thought I could shed some light here...

I had previously thought that the person who was credited with this phrase was the Greek philosopher Plato, but upon searching just now, I found this page which attributes it to either/both Pablo Picasso and/or Berthold Auerbach (and possibly some others):

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/02/17/soul/

So it may be difficult to find an authoritative source without deeper investigation.

Seems kind of ironic to me, sort of like trying to locate the originator of the chord progression of C / Am / F / G, which has been used in a HUGE number of songs in all different music genres...

Tigermelon
09-29-2017, 11:19 AM
This is great! I really want an uke that is tough enough to take with me anywhere but I don't have the money for the carbon fiber variety. It's exciting to be in the running. :D

bonesigh
09-29-2017, 01:24 PM
Great job you have (: Thanks for the opportunity. Been a while since a free quality uke was offered on UU. I miss the days when Aldrine used to have contests! This uke would be welcome in my family. I like ukes that have a different sound. Good luck with the final outcome! Orca...♥ it. I just thought of something. This uke should be called "Free Willy"!!! You know, the movie with the Orca?

jer
09-29-2017, 01:42 PM
This is a very generous offer. The uke looks and sounds good to me, based on the video. :)

bratsche
09-29-2017, 02:02 PM
Robert, thanks for the opportunity to enter such a neat drawing for a nice looking and sounding instrument. It's not often that you see something of such quality being offered at a mere 1 in 100 odds! :) Good luck, everyone!


bratsche

robedney
09-29-2017, 02:47 PM
OK, I need some advice here:

It occurred to me while looking at the entry sheet that the possibility of a tie exists. How, you ask? Well, let's suppose that the winning number is 50, but no one has entered on that line. The next step would be to go to the nearest number to 50. For the sake of argument, suppose we have entries at 49 and 51????

Two solutions have occurred to me, and I'd like some feedback on your preference: The first is, in the event of such a tie, to just flip a coin. In the example above, either 49 or 51 would win. The second is to just keep hitting the random number generator until an actual winning number comes up. In other words, if number 50 is blank and the number 50 is generated, I just generate another number until hitting one where the number is claimed.

Thoughts??? Of course this is a non-issue if the list is full by Monday.

robedney
09-29-2017, 02:48 PM
Great job you have (: Thanks for the opportunity. Been a while since a free quality uke was offered on UU. I miss the days when Aldrine used to have contests! This uke would be welcome in my family. I like ukes that have a different sound. Good luck with the final outcome! Orca...♥ it. I just thought of something. This uke should be called "Free Willy"!!! You know, the movie with the Orca?

I love it! Free Willy it is. If I ever give another one away that will be in the thread title!!!

besley
09-29-2017, 03:57 PM
....In other words, if number 50 is blank and the number 50 is generated, I just generate another number until hitting one where the number is claimed.......

This sounds most reasonable. Sort of like a drawing for a door prize in which you have to be present. If no one answers, you draw another number.

Chopped Liver
09-29-2017, 04:09 PM
OK, I need some advice here:

It occurred to me while looking at the entry sheet that the possibility of a tie exists. How, you ask? Well, let's suppose that the winning number is 50, but no one has entered on that line. The next step would be to go to the nearest number to 50. For the sake of argument, suppose we have entries at 49 and 51????

Two solutions have occurred to me, and I'd like some feedback on your preference: The first is, in the event of such a tie, to just flip a coin. In the example above, either 49 or 51 would win. The second is to just keep hitting the random number generator until an actual winning number comes up. In other words, if number 50 is blank and the number 50 is generated, I just generate another number until hitting one where the number is claimed.

Thoughts??? Of course this is a non-issue if the list is full by Monday.

I would say just hit the random number generator until you get a number that is taken. Seems easiest to me.

Booli
09-29-2017, 04:17 PM
I would say just hit the random number generator until you get a number that is taken. Seems easiest to me.


:agree:

KISS principle :)

Sharpshin
09-29-2017, 07:48 PM
Very cool. Generous of you. Sounds wonderful. I watched your videos on the boat a year or so ago with interest. I have a old Rainsong parlor guitar that has carbon top and laminated back and sides. Great sound. Mostly I do play soprano, so will watch this contest with interest!
Best to you in this endeavor!

robedney
09-30-2017, 06:36 AM
This sounds most reasonable. Sort of like a drawing for a door prize in which you have to be present. If no one answers, you draw another number.

OK, random it it!

PJoya
09-30-2017, 06:37 AM
Neat! Crossing my fingers for #3

Dave K
09-30-2017, 04:53 PM
Very kind of you! Looking forward to seeing your final version.

Tenor
09-30-2017, 05:22 PM
Thank you for the opportunity! (Sounds great in the video!)

OhioBelle
10-01-2017, 08:19 AM
This sounds most reasonable. Sort of like a drawing for a door prize in which you have to be present. If no one answers, you draw another number.

Agreed! Seems the easiest and fairest way to do it.

Thank you for doing this! What a fun and generous way to advertise your ukuleles. The sound clip demonstrates the crystalline clear notes that carbon fiber is capable of producing. Not better than wood - simply different. A very beautiful sound. Love the name you've chosen as well - Orca! Great reminder of our ocean friends and their unique song.

Good luck to everyone!

bonesigh
10-02-2017, 02:17 PM
I love it! Free Willy it is. If I ever give another one away that will be in the thread title!!!

Cool (: (apparently this message is too short to send, so...I'll say it again) Cool!!

connor013
10-02-2017, 03:08 PM
With very little foresight, I showed this to the kids in my uke club after school today.

They're super excited, but they also wanted to each create accounts to try and tip the scales in our favor. Teenagers make questionable ethical choices, especially in groups. Who knew?

Good luck everyone!

robedney
10-02-2017, 06:38 PM
Just a reminder: Entries will be closed at midnight tonight!

robedney
10-02-2017, 06:42 PM
With very little foresight, I showed this to the kids in my uke club after school today.

They're super excited, but they also wanted to each create accounts to try and tip the scales in our favor. Teenagers make questionable ethical choices, especially in groups. Who knew?

Good luck everyone!

I love it! How many kids in your group?

Dean Beaver
10-02-2017, 07:11 PM
It's an awesome offer .. I'm sure not much more needs to be said regarding that, very generous and considerate Rob.
I was hesitant to enter the draw, I'm in Australia, so it would be a bit of an effort if I win I suppose, I don't know much about the official import requirements, however I figure I've got a 99/100 chance of not winning, and I couldn't resist the opportunity to enter for one of these Orca prototypes, it does seem like a really nice alternative style Uke, and I'm sure we'll see more of these in future with times being such as they are and alternative materials being explored more now.
Luck to all the entrants in the draw, and Thanks to Rob Edney for the opportunity to win a prototype Orca ...
Happy Ukeing :)

igorthebarbarian
10-02-2017, 07:46 PM
Wow, this is super cool and very generous. I just entered. Thank you!

Ukecaster
10-03-2017, 07:26 AM
Waiting with bated breath..or is it baited?

robedney
10-03-2017, 10:42 AM
OK uu'ers, the drawing is now closed and the winner's new lucky number is 15! To see a short vid of the actual drawing process go to this new thread:

http://forum.ukuleleunderground.com/showthread.php?129493-The-winner-of-the-free-uke-is

fowl
10-03-2017, 10:49 AM
Congrats Chris. If you happen to come to the next Ukulele World Congress, please bring the Orca so some of the rest of us can see and try it.

jer
10-03-2017, 11:25 AM
Congrats! It's nice to see this going to someone who is in music education, if I remember correctly. I hope you enjoy it!

Choirguy
10-03-2017, 02:53 PM
Congrats Chris. If you happen to come to the next Ukulele World Congress, please bring the Orca so some of the rest of us can see and try it.

I will bring it to the Great Minnesota Ukulele Get Together in November. I’d love to bring it to UWC, but there is a challenge as it is at the end of our school year which is not a good time to be gone, and we are moving into a new building meaning that there may be challenges. That said, I get personal days. The only risk is that I want to buy a Concert or Tenor Cedar/Rosewood Mainland (much like the Pono I just sold) directly from Mike in person...so a
Trip to UWC might be more expensive than i would normally expect! :)

Also, if it were possible to give feedback, I would love to suggest that UWC be held two weeks later...(and no, I don’t expect anyone to change it on my account).

igorthebarbarian
10-03-2017, 06:44 PM
Super happy it went to a teacher. The world needs more good teachers.

70sSanO
10-03-2017, 07:17 PM
Beautiful gesture. Computer picked the perfect winner. Congrats Choirguy!

John

besley
11-18-2017, 05:33 PM
I got a chance today to try this uke at the Great Minnesota Uke Gathering when Chris brought it by. And I was quite impressed. I've been very interested as I own several carbon fiber guitars and also a Blackbird Farallon tenor uke.

Robert mentioned in his original post that this prototype came out with a bit narrower neck than he would like, and I certainly hope the eventual uke has at least a 36 mm nut width. And of course the tuners will need to be something special too, preferably Gotoh UPTs. But the biggest issue I see with the design is the use of a wood fretboard and bridge. Something as special, space-age, and durable as carbon fiber and ABS just cries out for a Richlite fretboard and bridge. There have been a couple of carbon fiber guitar models out there that also have wood fretboards, and the consensus over at the Acoustic Guitar Forum is that carbon fiber instruments really ought to be wood free. I know Pau Ferro is durable stuff, but still it would be nicer to have a version in which there were no worries at all about humidity and fret ends popping out. Heck, my cheap Enya EUT-X1 tenor has a Richlite fretboard and bridge, and it was only about $100 or so.

With a wider nut, good tuners, and wood-free construction this should be a winner. If the price is reasonable I'll be the first to sign up.