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StevieD009
01-13-2018, 06:47 AM
Hi all,
I'm looking for a set of black ukulele strings for a soprano uke. It's important that they are black because I've outfitted it with a black nut and saddle, black tuning pegs, etc. It's "murdered out" lol. Anyway, all of the black strings I've come across seem to be very thin, which is outside of what I consider to be "traditional" ukulele strings. Some players like these I guess, but I do not. We're talking like .028-.040 - so thin! I normally play on Aquila super nylguts which are more in the range of .060-.091. So - my question is, does anyone know of a brand of black ukulele strings for a soprano that have a gauge range of .060-.091 or similar? I prefer nylon, but I'm willing to try any material if I can find the right gauge. Thanks!

Booli
01-13-2018, 06:57 AM
Likely you are going to find only 2 different strings sets at this time:

GHS Black Nylon 'Hawaiian' traditional (tynex), which are close to the gauges you are looking for...

http://www.ghsstrings.com/products/11434-nylon?category_id=1964772-ukulele

and

Fremont Blacklines which come in medium and hard tension and are made of fluorocarbon, and are a little thinner than those gauges you mentioned because fluorocarbon strings typically have a higher linear density than the Dupont composites known as nylon or tynex.

http://cargo.ukerepublic.com/product/fremont-blackline-hard-gauge-ukulele-strings

This page on Uke Republic you have to choose the BLACKLINES from the pull-down menu, Elderly has them as well IIRC.

There may be other stuff out there, but I have not used nor tried it myself.

Hope this helps! :)

DownUpDave
01-13-2018, 07:09 AM
Go to the D'Addario website, go to ukulele, go Pro Arte' rectified nylon. The soprano set is "Black Nylon Ukulele" EJ53S. The diameters are in the chart below the description, they are similar to what you asked for. Nylon will be the only material that comes in the thick diameters you want, florocarbon is much thinner

Booli
01-13-2018, 07:21 AM
Go to the D'Addario website, go to ukulele, go Pro Arte' rectified nylon. The soprano set is "Black Nylon Ukulele" EJ53S. The diameters are in the chart below the description, they are similar to what you asked for. Nylon will be the only material that comes in the thick diameters you want, florocarbon is much thinner

Good catch Dave!

link:

http://www.daddario.com/DADProductDetail.Page?ActiveID=3769&productid=693&productname=EJ53S_Pro_Art__Rectified_Ukulele__Sopr ano

Details:


Optimized for Soprano Ukuleles tuned to standard GCEA tuning
Black precision rectified nylon ensuring that the roundness and dimension control of each string are unsurpassed
Preferred for their warm and long lasting tone
Soprano Ukulele, Rectified Black Nylon, Non-Ball End
String Gauges: Black Nylon .028, .033, .040, .029

DownUpDave
01-13-2018, 07:30 AM
Good catch Dave!

link:

http://www.daddario.com/DADProductDetail.Page?ActiveID=3769&productid=693&productname=EJ53S_Pro_Art__Rectified_Ukulele__Sopr ano

Details:


Optimized for Soprano Ukuleles tuned to standard GCEA tuning
Black precision rectified nylon ensuring that the roundness and dimension control of each string are unsurpassed
Preferred for their warm and long lasting tone
Soprano Ukulele, Rectified Black Nylon, Non-Ball End
String Gauges: Black Nylon .028, .033, .040, .029


Hey Booli by the looks of the OP stated measurements I am guessing he was using metric, hence the much larger numbers he quoted. Same thing, different lanuage:p

ProfChris
01-13-2018, 08:06 AM
The Aquila black lava are nice to play - a little thinner than Nylguts, and a little less tension (subjective feeling).

Booli
01-13-2018, 09:58 AM
Hey Booli by the looks of the OP stated measurements I am guessing he was using metric, hence the much larger numbers he quoted. Same thing, different lanuage:p

Aye brother - we got gypped here in the USA (maybe Canada too?) by holding on to the imperial measurements too long, while the rest of the world was already standardized on metric.

I've seen that when I was taking science classes in college, they only casually started to reference using S.I. Units (Scientific International IIRC? Units).

I've tried to do all my own measurements in metric, but have not fully converted over yet, as a hold-over from my guitar days I still have it in my head for 'thousands of an inch" for string diameters, but I am trying...

Counting 16ths or 64ths of an inch on a ruler is near impossible without a magnifying glass, and the smaller millimeters on the metric side is about all I can see with the naked eye, and thankfully my cheap digital calipers from China via eBay has a nice display and with a press of the button, I can have it show the same measure in either imperial or metric, which makes me very happy.

I dont know if you wear eyeglasses Dave, but for me since passing 40, about every 2 yrs I need stronger lenses to see any small detail (typical trend due to presbyopia it seems).

If you can help it, don't get old. :)

Inksplosive AL
01-14-2018, 07:09 AM
Aquila Lava strings are supposed to be very much like the nylagut strings but I do not believe they are very black more of a grey. Aquila Carbon strings are suppose to be more like their red strings. Thicknesses can be found be researching a bit yourself Aquila strings usually advertise this data.

After years now on reds the white Aquilas feel too thick so I fully understand looking for something familiar.

All this talk of a murdered out uke and not a one picture... you know what they say! Pictures or it didn't happen.

StevieD009
01-14-2018, 08:42 AM
Haha, thanks Inksplosive! Pics coming soon. I think what I'm used to, and looking for as far as thickness, is the Super Nylguts, but I don't know what the thickness is on them and Aquila doesn't seem to list it anywhere (not the package nor their website). When I try writing them through their site it errors out and phone calls to them don't go through, go figure haha. Anyway, the Super Nylguts are rather thick, and I also like the semi-silky feel without feeling/sounding like plastic, which is what flourocarbons feel/sound like to me. I tried the lavas because I thought they would be close enough to black and claimed to have that same nylgut feeling, but I find them to be rather thin and a more "plasticky" feel to them, definitely nothing like the super nylguts. I dunno, maybe it's in my head, but I've tried nearly every black string out there now, and none of them seem to have the thickness, softness, tone and playability of super nylguts, which would be the ideal scenario. Maybe it doesn't exist...

StevieD009
01-14-2018, 08:42 AM
I agree, they are nice, but still too thin for my taste - probably the closest thing I've found so far.

StevieD009
01-14-2018, 08:46 AM
Thanks Dave,
I tried the D'Addario EJ53S Pro-Arté Rectified Ukulele Strings - they are close on the thickness I'm looking for, but a bit too plucky/plastic feeling for me. I'm not sure if it's in my head, but these black strings all feel a lot more plastic and less nylon to me. I like nylon that has a bit of softness to it. I really like the super nylgut feel, but I'd be happy with anything black that doesn't feel/sound like plastic. Starting to wonder if it exits. Thanks again!

StevieD009
01-14-2018, 08:48 AM
The Aquila black lava are nice to play - a little thinner than Nylguts, and a little less tension (subjective feeling).

I agree, they are nice, but still too thin for my taste - probably the closest thing I've found so far.

StevieD009
01-14-2018, 08:49 AM
Go to the D'Addario website, go to ukulele, go Pro Arte' rectified nylon. The soprano set is "Black Nylon Ukulele" EJ53S. The diameters are in the chart below the description, they are similar to what you asked for. Nylon will be the only material that comes in the thick diameters you want, florocarbon is much thinner

Thanks Dave,
I tried the D'Addario EJ53S Pro-Arté Rectified Ukulele Strings - they are close on the thickness I'm looking for, but a bit too plucky/plastic feeling for me. I'm not sure if it's in my head, but these black strings all feel a lot more plastic and less nylon to me. I like nylon that has a bit of softness to it. I really like the super nylgut feel, but I'd be happy with anything black that doesn't feel/sound like plastic. Starting to wonder if it exits. Thanks again!

Booli
01-14-2018, 10:28 AM
All this talk of a murdered out uke and not a one picture...

Kudos to you brother - for I am now oddly inspired to look for some artwork of a crow or raven, or maybe even a vulture to put on one of my ukes...

ProfChris
01-14-2018, 11:09 AM
I agree, they are nice, but still too thin for my taste - probably the closest thing I've found so far.

In that case, check if the concert strings are thicker (usually so for Aquilas). I've used concert strings on sopranos with no problems other than the higher tension, which would possibly be the same as soprano Nylguts.

PhilUSAFRet
01-14-2018, 11:31 AM
If you want mellow, the old standard is Aloha brand...also very inexpensive.

OhioBelle
01-14-2018, 02:20 PM
Kudos to you brother - for I am now oddly inspired to look for some artwork of a crow or raven, or maybe even a vulture to put on one of my ukes...

Ha Booli! Perhaps a murder on my Lava Flea. Only they'd be camouflaged on all that black. Blending in. Not sure I'd see them. Then I'd be constantly counting them...

Booli
01-14-2018, 02:42 PM
Ha Booli! Perhaps a murder on my Lava Flea. Only they'd be camouflaged on all that black. Blending in. Not sure I'd see them. Then I'd be constantly counting them...

YES!!!

And then you can serenade us with your rendition of "Mr. Jones and Me"... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FETQhX5VXEs

- you can DO this :) :music:

UkingViking
01-15-2018, 09:25 AM
I just went through Fremont Blacklines, Aquila Carbonblacks and Aquila Lava Black on a concert uke of mine.
While the Fremont were the only truly black strings, the lava strings are dark enough grey to not light up and ruin the illusion. And they are very similar to other nylgut.
The Carbonblacks are a light shiny grey. And they are nothing like nylgut.

StevieD009
01-15-2018, 04:15 PM
Kudos to you brother - for I am now oddly inspired to look for some artwork of a crow or raven, or maybe even a vulture to put on one of my ukes...

lol took me a second to get that, but you're right, some blackbird artwork might be the thing to tie this whole uke together :)

StevieD009
01-15-2018, 04:17 PM
I just went through Fremont Blacklines, Aquila Carbonblacks and Aquila Lava Black on a concert uke of mine.
While the Fremont were the only truly black strings, the lava strings are dark enough grey to not light up and ruin the illusion. And they are very similar to other nylgut.
The Carbonblacks are a light shiny grey. And they are nothing like nylgut.

Thanks, I'm starting to think the Lavas are the only thing close for me, just wish they weren't so thin - might take another's suggestion and look at the concert strings, although I worry about the tension difference.

StevieD009
07-29-2018, 05:40 AM
Hi all,
It's been a while, but I wanted to post some pics of the infamous "murdered out" uke (Kiwaya KTS-4). I am currently selling it if anyone is interested send me a message. Upgraded with black Tusk nut and saddle, and black Gotoh tuners. It's hand-down the best uke I've ever played/owned. The neck on this thing feels like riding a pure-bred horse through a misty morning beach scene. It's just not the sound I'm searching for right now, so ready to let it go to someone who can put it to use. I would say it's more oriented for pretty finger-picking and not heavy strumming, which is where I tend to go. Hope you enjoy the pics:
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