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flailingfingers
03-02-2018, 04:35 AM
Used to be some posters who really stirred things up. Regularly got booted for a "time out" by the moderator. I miss those guys. Humor and irreverence are essential for maintaining my interest in this forum.
I'll kick it off: Players who only pick melodies and such but don"t sing are wimps. Real players strum like mad and sing LOUDLY to the heavens.
Let the fun begin.

Capsfan89
03-02-2018, 04:40 AM
You sound like someone who learns a couple of chords to strum and goes around telling everyone your a musician.

Ukecaster
03-02-2018, 04:46 AM
Funny, I don't remember Roy Smeck, John King or other uke virtuosos singing...did I miss something?

Speaking of Bad Boys, I haven't heard the old canard "Anything larger than a soprano is cheating" lately. :D Maybe the PC Police gave em all the boot?

kvehe
03-02-2018, 04:55 AM
Sometimes I miss the banned people. Not all were boys. At least one was a Bad Girl. :)

flailingfingers
03-02-2018, 05:19 AM
You sound like someone who learns a couple of chords to strum and goes around telling everyone your a musician.
oooh. That's a good one in the Bad Boy (BB) tradition. Attack the poster directly. Well played. Just a note: "your" is correctly spelled "you're". (correcting someone who has attacked you is also in the BB tradition).

flailingfingers
03-02-2018, 05:22 AM
Funny, I don't remember Roy Smeck, John King or other uke virtuosos singing...did I miss something?

Speaking of Bad Boys, I haven't heard the old canard "Anything larger than a soprano is cheating" lately. :D Maybe the PC Police gave em all the boot?

Those are the wimps I speak of...virtuosos? Hah!
Thanks for bringing up that old canard. That was always good for some heated blather.
I do fear that the Boys have been booted. Our loss if so.

Ukecaster
03-02-2018, 05:32 AM
Pictures speak louder than words

106997

kohanmike
03-02-2018, 05:37 AM
Don't miss that kind of stuff at all. A few times I was called out by a member for no good reason at all, but because I hate confrontation, I didn't respond. I believe if you don't have something good to say, don't say anything at all. One of my favorite recent songs that our group does is "Happy" by Pharrell Williams.

8 tenor cutaway ukes, 3 acoustic bass ukes, 8 solid body bass ukes, 8 mini electric bass guitars

• Donate to The Ukulele Kids Club, they provide ukuleles to children's hospital music therapy programs. http://.www.theukc.org
• Member The CC Strummers: https://www.youtube.com/user/CCStrummers/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/CCStrummers/videos)

flailingfingers
03-02-2018, 05:37 AM
Pictures speak louder than words

106997

Perfect. Should be ukuleles lying all about he floor though. (see, as a BB I must offer some correction)

flailingfingers
03-02-2018, 05:42 AM
For those having a bit of trouble understanding the twisted humor going on here: have a marathon viewing session, most likely on uTube, of the Monty Python shows. That may help.

Capsfan89
03-02-2018, 05:54 AM
For those having a bit of trouble understanding the twisted humor going on here: have a marathon viewing session, most likely on uTube, of the Monty Python shows. That may help.

I've been on a British comedy kick lately, watching shows like The Office (UK), The End of The F****** World, The Ricky Gervias show and others. It's dry, blunt, smart and not so reliant on sex or shock value. Good stuff. Now go ahead and point out my grammar mistakes.

Booli
03-02-2018, 06:00 AM
I've been on a British comedy kick lately, watching shows like The Office (UK), The End of The F****** World, The Ricky Gervias show and others. It's dry, blunt, smart and not so reliant on sex or shock value. Good stuff. Now go ahead and point out my grammar mistakes.

A few yrs back, BEVOMU (from London) introduced me to the UK tv show 'One Foot In The Grave'...which I never knew about previously being in the USA.

I found the episodes scattered across YouTube and watched them all. I really loved that show, and had not seen much British tv prior to that, and as they say, I thought it was 'bloody brilliant'....

see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Foot_in_the_Grave

Since then, I've come to the conclusion that I am beginning to despise US tv programming and that the BBC is really much better, but being a Whovian too might help that....grass being greener on the other side and all...

70sSanO
03-02-2018, 06:09 AM
On the other hand... with the current climate in America, it is nice to go somewhere where people are civil to each other.

John

flailingfingers
03-02-2018, 06:19 AM
I've been on a British comedy kick lately, watching shows like The Office (UK), The End of The F****** World, The Ricky Gervias show and others. It's dry, blunt, smart and not so reliant on sex or shock value. Good stuff. Now go ahead and point out my grammar mistakes.

Damn. You're making it hard. Here goes ( a desperate attempt at best): you used too many *****. Should have ended with a "g". Hope that helps.

flailingfingers
03-02-2018, 06:22 AM
A few yrs back, BEVOMU (from London) introduced me to the UK tv show 'One Foot In The Grave'...which I never knew about previously being in the USA.

I found the episodes scattered across YouTube and watched them all. I really loved that show, and had not seen much British tv prior to that, and as they say, I thought it was 'bloody brilliant'....

see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Foot_in_the_Grave


Booli,
This makes this whole post worth it for me. Just checked out "One Foot..." Bookmarked for must-see viewing. Thanks. Now this is diverging from the BB concept. We're being courteous, kind and helpful. Perhaps someone lurking can pull us down?

Booli
03-02-2018, 06:28 AM
On the other hand... with the current climate in America, it is nice to go somewhere where people are civil to each other.

John

I agree. I come to UU for discussion of music and ukulele.

If I wanted excessive trolling, sarcasm, pub humor etc, I'd be on that 'Cosmos' forum instead.

On 'Cosmos', they all think of us here on UU as 'gentle snowflakes'.

If you want to lock horns with a 'Bad Boy', maybe Cosmos is a good place for that. Many of those folks banned from UU have taken refuge over there, and lovingly describe UU people as 'faeries' that they would like to pummel into submission and misery to be more like them.

I despise churn and friction for it's own sake, as well as conflict with folks who thrive on negativity, and like kohanmike, will usually just bow out if the person seems hell-bent on stirring things up for the sake of feeding off the negativity like a parasite.

I'm sure the moderators will agree, that kind of wasteful negativity is not welcome here on UU.

Capsfan89
03-02-2018, 06:30 AM
A few yrs back, BEVOMU (from London) introduced me to the UK tv show 'One Foot In The Grave'...which I never knew about previously being in the USA.

I found the episodes scattered across YouTube and watched them all. I really loved that show, and had not seen much British tv prior to that, and as they say, I thought it was 'bloody brilliant'....

see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Foot_in_the_Grave

Since then, I've come to the conclusion that I am beginning to despise US tv programming and that the BBC is really much better, but being a Whovian too might help that....grass being greener on the other side and all...

I will definitely have to check it out.

Booli
03-02-2018, 06:30 AM
Booli,
This makes this whole post worth it for me. Just checked out "One Foot..." Bookmarked for must-see viewing. Thanks. Now this is diverging from the BB concept. We're being courteous, kind and helpful. Perhaps someone lurking can pull us down?

ok. Thanks, but now you can just piss off!

ha ha

bad boy enough for ya?

flailingfingers
03-02-2018, 06:40 AM
ok. Thanks, but now you can just piss off!

ha ha

bad boy enough for ya?

Perfect! I think my work here is done. Been a fun morning. I'm being a stay-home nurse for my wife who is recovering from surgery. Needed a diversion and this has worked well. PLUS the info on "One Foot...". A treasure. Signing off. Perhaps if any real bad boys are out there they will carry on. I'll have to miss it.
Booli, I'm sorry that I seemed to have really upset you as you said in a previous post. Credentials: I am a proud, staunch liberal and card caring ACLU member. I think we are on the same team. Never heard of Cosmos. Think I'll skip it.
NOW REALLY SIGNING OFF.

Tootler
03-02-2018, 06:41 AM
On the other hand... with the current climate in America, it is nice to go somewhere where people are civil to each other.

John

Not exactly wholesome here either. Brexit has divided the country and it has brought a deal of nastiness out.

Booli
03-02-2018, 06:48 AM
Perfect! I think my work here is done. Been a fun morning. I'm being a stay-home nurse for my wife who is recovering from surgery. Needed a diversion and this has worked well. PLUS the info on "One Foot...". A treasure. Signing off. Perhaps if any real bad boys are out there they will carry on. I'll have to miss it.
Booli, I'm sorry that I seemed to have really upset you as you said in a previous post. Credentials: I am a proud, staunch liberal and card caring ACLU member. I think we are on the same team. Never heard of Cosmos. Think I'll skip it.
NOW REALLY SIGNING OFF.

It's all good brother, no harm, no foul.

However, GET OFF MY LAWN!!!! Damn kiddies and their incessant warblings and mucking about!!!!

Ukecaster
03-02-2018, 08:14 AM
....Credentials: I am a proud, staunch liberal and card caring ACLU member

Oh, thought you were with the NRA

Booli
03-02-2018, 09:36 AM
There's still plenty of bad-boyism here; I'd rather keep my insights to myself than deal with the knee-jerk reactions they tend to provoke from the contentious and usually badly informed, particularly those more interested in protecting their cherished lore or scattershot approach than in reading carefully, digesting what others have to say, and learning.

Ubu - I don't blame you and sad to say that for certain folks, willful ignorance is like a form of mental illness, often lifelong and undiagnosed and untreated.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/why-we-blame/201709/willful-ignorance-and-self-deception

Down Up Dick
03-02-2018, 12:16 PM
Hmmmmm, very interesting . . . :old:

maki66
03-02-2018, 07:59 PM
I got threatened with being banned only recently.
You're welcome.

Croaky Keith
03-03-2018, 01:09 AM
Perfect. Should be ukuleles lying all about he floor though. (see, as a BB I must offer some correction)

Perhaps you meant 'lying all about the floor'............

Milehighuke
03-03-2018, 04:22 AM
You sound like someone who learns a couple of chords to strum and goes around telling everyone your a musician.

Or maybe he's just one of those poor bastards with a list of 10+ ukes in their signature, categorized by body size or wood type, who are clearly overcompensating for an unfortunate lack of playing skills.

Down Up Dick
03-03-2018, 04:59 AM
Interestinger and interestinger, hmmmm . . . :old:

flailingfingers
03-03-2018, 03:21 PM
Perhaps you meant 'lying all about the floor'............

Nice catch Croaky. Well done in the finest tradition.
I think humor is lost on Milehighuke and Capsfan89. Sad souls typing away in their mother's basement. (The BB technique here is "attack the poster personally".)
Disclaimer: VERY possible that I am the one missing the subtle humor of Milehighuke and Capsfan89. If so, I bow to your BB expertise. Impressive.

Down Up Dick
03-03-2018, 03:42 PM
Ahhh—Hah! Indeed . . . :old:

Booli
03-03-2018, 03:44 PM
Nice catch Croaky. Well done in the finest tradition.
I think humor is lost on Milehighuke and Capsfan89. Sad souls typing away in their mother's basement. (The BB technique here is "attack the poster personally".)
Disclaimer: VERY possible that I am the one missing the subtle humor of Milehighuke and Capsfan89. If so, I bow to your BB expertise. Impressive.

At first when I read your OP, I was offended and thought that you were earnestly trying to stir up a maelstrom of negativity, but several posts down, realized that it was all a farce and you were doing this all in jest.

Perhaps that intent of 'having a bit of fun' was lost on others as it was on me initially, and thus their reactions that followed.

Jokes like this, tread a fine line, and are a slippery slope, and as we all know the flavors of humor are not universally understood by all (including me) and are more like favorite flavors of ice cream while ignoring the flavors that are NOT one's own favorite...

I just hope that nobody ends up with a sour feeling and decides that your thread was created with intent of malice, even if they hold the opinion that possibly in their own perception that it could have just been a matter of poor taste.

I am not judging anyone at all here, and just glad that I caught on, before getting caught up, in what would have been fake drama, as I do not need to raise my own blood pressure.

So, with me, it's all good, and please don't mind me. It's ok if you, or anyone else will disagree with me, I will not make a fuss about it.

We are all human (or troll) after all. :)

flailingfingers
03-03-2018, 04:08 PM
Well said Booli. Sorry I threw you off. Not intended of course. I sort of figured, after one of your posts, that I was not hitting the mark. It's been a fun, short ride and it should stay that: SHORT. So I'll end it here on my part. Thanks to all for coming along. PS- I really don't miss the Bad Boys all that much....although a few of them were pretty amazing.

Down Up Dick
03-03-2018, 04:13 PM
I think it’s over now, and we’re still okay. Whew! :old:

Booli
03-03-2018, 05:13 PM
I think it’s over now, and we’re still okay. Whew! :old:

Amen. Cheers to that :cheers:

Booli
03-03-2018, 05:14 PM
Well said Booli. Sorry I threw you off. Not intended of course. I sort of figured, after one of your posts, that I was not hitting the mark. It's been a fun, short ride and it should stay that: SHORT. So I'll end it here on my part. Thanks to all for coming along. PS- I really don't miss the Bad Boys all that much....although a few of them were pretty amazing.

Thanks brother. No worries at all.

It was a wild ride...to infinity...and beyond!

Milehighuke
03-03-2018, 07:15 PM
Nice catch Croaky. Well done in the finest tradition.
I think humor is lost on Milehighuke and Capsfan89. Sad souls typing away in their mother's basement. (The BB technique here is "attack the poster personally".)
Disclaimer: VERY possible that I am the one missing the subtle humor of Milehighuke and Capsfan89. If so, I bow to your BB expertise. Impressive.

Drama queen.

igorthebarbarian
03-03-2018, 08:37 PM
was hoping this would be a thread dedicated to Bill Laimbeer and the Bad Boys of the Detroit Pistons. Very disappointed.

MopMan
03-03-2018, 11:26 PM
Who would waste their time responding to such an obviously terrible thread?

BTW, it's "Yook." No reversies!

Capsfan89
03-04-2018, 01:58 AM
Nice catch Croaky. Well done in the finest tradition.
I think humor is lost on Milehighuke and Capsfan89. Sad souls typing away in their mother's basement. (The BB technique here is "attack the poster personally".)
Disclaimer: VERY possible that I am the one missing the subtle humor of Milehighuke and Capsfan89. If so, I bow to your BB expertise. Impressive.

No subtle humor here. I was first to reply and I thought you were wanting to just hurl some funny insults at each other. No worries at all, we can go all back to obsessively looking at and buying ukes we won't play in peace and harmony.

Down Up Dick
03-04-2018, 03:01 AM
No subtle humor here. I was first to reply and I thought you were wanting to just hurl some funny insults at each other. No worries at all, we can go all back to obsessively looking at and buying ukes we won't play in peace and harmony.

Ha! Good one. :old:

plunker
03-04-2018, 03:15 AM
This thread is so Snark-y could use it to tune my uke.

Down Up Dick
03-04-2018, 04:26 AM
This thread is so Snark-y could use it to tune my uke.

Ha! Good one. :old:

flailingfingers
03-04-2018, 05:02 AM
Wow! I am stunned by Milehigh and Capsfan. You guys are the best! Got it right of the bat and drew me in. Beautiful!

Down Up Dick
03-04-2018, 05:04 AM
On no! He’s baaack! :old:

flailingfingers
03-04-2018, 05:08 AM
Busted. I just had to honor real pros.

EDW
03-04-2018, 05:49 AM
Speaking of Bad Boys, I haven't heard the old canard "Anything larger than a soprano is cheating" lately. :D Maybe the PC Police gave em all the boot?

It is not cheating. It is just not a real ukulele.

That is fine. It will lessen the competition for the beautiful instruments to those in the know.

(there, are those the kind of inflammatory remarks the OP is looking for?)

;)

plunker
03-04-2018, 06:05 AM
It is not cheating. It is just not a real ukulele.

That is fine. It will lessen the competition for the beautiful instruments to those in the know.

(there, are those the kind of inflammatory remarks the OP is looking for?)

;)

The rajao (Portuguese inspiration for the ukulele was 27 inches long. A tenor uke is 26 inches long. Sounds like the soprano uke is the aberration.

Down Up Dick
03-04-2018, 06:16 AM
Ah HAH! See . . . ? :old:

EDW
03-04-2018, 06:30 AM
The rajao (Portuguese inspiration for the ukulele was 27 inches long. A tenor uke is 26 inches long. Sounds like the soprano uke is the aberration.

It is more closely related to the cavaquinho or machete de braga, which are both approximately the size of a soprano.

The people in those days were much smaller, so the instrument only looked bigger

Down Up Dick
03-04-2018, 06:50 AM
Hmmmm, I dunno . . . :old:

EDW
03-04-2018, 07:52 AM
Well, you have to account for the conversion from metric to the english system. That is a common mistake.

plunker
03-04-2018, 09:40 AM
Well, you have to account for the conversion from metric to the english system. That is a common mistake.

All ready converted. hose who tout the machete are known by their cutting remarks.

Down Up Dick
03-04-2018, 09:58 AM
Machete? Uh Oh, scary! :old:

EDW
03-04-2018, 11:04 AM
All ready converted..

Oh,........maybe I was thinking of the conversion from celsius to fahrenheit!

Booli
03-04-2018, 11:16 AM
Oh,........maybe I was thinking of the conversion from celsius to fahrenheit!

Well, don't truck with any of that.

I'm hardcore, and only do Kelvin. Absolute Zer0 or else!

plunker
03-04-2018, 01:31 PM
Or conversion from soprano to tenor.

Ukecaster
03-04-2018, 02:00 PM
Also adjust for "Internet inches."

Wasn't that a porn flick?

Booli
03-04-2018, 02:26 PM
Wasn't that a porn flick?

Maybe it was Uke pr0n? as in

"G-string Adventures"

or

"Hard Wood & Tools (a luthery special)"

Down Up Dick
03-04-2018, 02:35 PM
Naughty, naughty talk, ahhhummm. :old:

plunker
03-04-2018, 02:42 PM
Shhhhhh. Here comes the moderator.

flailingfingers
03-04-2018, 06:31 PM
OK. OK. Another attempt to kill the beast:
What is your favorite color of:
1. Uke strap 2. hard case 3. soft case 4. tuner 5. plectrum 6. ukulele interior 7. humidifier 8. tuning knobs 9. your absolute most precious uke 10. the light bulb that is always on when you play in your Mom's basement which is pretty much all the time?
If we can get a serious discussion along these lines then the boredom among anyone on this forum who still has a life will be instant and the thread will die. Or not.

Booli
03-04-2018, 06:48 PM
OK. OK. Another attempt to kill the beast:
What is your favorite color of:
1. Uke strap 2. hard case 3. soft case 4. tuner 5. plectrum 6. ukulele interior 7. humidifier 8. tuning knobs 9. your absolute most precious uke 10. the light bulb that is always on when you play in your Mom's basement which is pretty much all the time?
If we can get a serious discussion along these lines then the boredom among anyone on this forum who still has a life will be instant and the thread will die. Or not.

Jolly for those on the path willing to render a discussion [yet again on these topics] with answers...

But I'd rather hit myself in the kneecaps really hard a few dozen times with a ball-peen hammer than discuss these topics again.

/s

Down Up Dick
03-04-2018, 07:33 PM
Hmmmm, that’s right . . . :old:

Booli
03-04-2018, 07:44 PM
Hmmmm, that’s right . . . :old:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8GhVsLGOWX0/maxresdefault.jpg


NOTE: If you hit REPLY WITH QUOTE, then your comments are in context, otherwise nobody has a clue. :)

Down Up Dick
03-04-2018, 08:17 PM
You may be right. :old:

Booli
03-04-2018, 08:40 PM
You may be right. :old:

Right. Left. Don't matter to me. I wear the socks any way.

Croaky Keith
03-04-2018, 10:43 PM
OK. OK. Another attempt to kill the beast:
What is your favorite color of:
1. Uke strap 2. hard case 3. soft case 4. tuner 5. plectrum 6. ukulele interior 7. humidifier 8. tuning knobs 9. your absolute most precious uke 10. the light bulb that is always on when you play in your Mom's basement which is pretty much all the time?
If we can get a serious discussion along these lines then the boredom among anyone on this forum who still has a life will be instant and the thread will die. Or not.

You could of course just close the thread........

plunker
03-04-2018, 11:00 PM
What is your favorite color ballpeen hammer. Do you prefer to by it at Lowes or Home Depot. Do you prefer wood or composite handle.

Booli
03-04-2018, 11:50 PM
What is your favorite color ballpeen hammer. Do you prefer to by it at Lowes or Home Depot. Do you prefer wood or composite handle.

Since I prefer DIY...

I smithed my very own ball-peen hammer, forged deep in a pit of despair at the bottom of an active volcano, composed from the smelted down 14-gauge surgical steel hypodermic needles used for lethal injections of deceased inmates previously on death row, scavenged from the hazmat bins in the nation's most hardcore prisons...

Both the head of the hammer, and it's handle are one solid piece of metal together, for both maximum strength and full transfer of kinetic energy when wielded by my hand.

Ukecaster
03-05-2018, 01:05 AM
OK. OK. Another attempt to kill the beast:
What is your favorite color of:
1. Uke strap 2. hard case 3. soft case 4. tuner 5. plectrum 6. ukulele interior 7. humidifier 8. tuning knobs 9. your absolute most precious uke 10. the light bulb that is always on when you play in your Mom's basement which is pretty much all the time?
If we can get a serious discussion along these lines then the boredom among anyone on this forum who still has a life will be instant and the thread will die. Or not.

I will continue to prefer black, until they invent a darker color.

Down Up Dick
03-05-2018, 03:04 AM
Weird! But very interesting . . . very, very interesting . . . :old:

MopMan
03-05-2018, 03:11 AM
I hammered my ball-peen into your mom's pink soft-case.

Perhaps this thread should be moved to the "General Discussion" forum as the topic has become a pretty broad.

flailingfingers
03-05-2018, 03:14 AM
You could of course just close the thread........

Didn't know I could do that. How?

Down Up Dick
03-05-2018, 03:43 AM
How indeed . . . :old:

Rllink
03-05-2018, 04:30 AM
I think it needs to keep going right where it is.

plunker
03-05-2018, 05:01 AM
I think the thread is linear. As you go down the thread things get lower and lower.hi

flailingfingers
03-05-2018, 07:30 AM
I think it needs to keep going right where it is.

Agreed. This has taken on a life of its own. It is no longer mine to play with. (If it ever was). Like all great creations it breathes. IT BREATHES! (see Mel Brooks' Frankenstein).

Down Up Dick
03-05-2018, 07:47 AM
Well, . . . Okay. :old:

Booli
03-05-2018, 07:48 AM
I hammered my ball-peen into your mom's pink soft-case...

Nice try, but your insolence will not be rewarded. :p

Jerryc41
03-08-2018, 02:16 AM
I'm fairly new here, and I was glad to see the absence of posters like that. I spend a lot of time on a photo forum, and the nasties can be very annoying - and counterproductive. Humor is one thing, but attacking others contributes nothing.

plunker
03-08-2018, 11:32 AM
Agreed. This has taken on a life of its own. It is no longer mine to play with. (If it ever was). Like all great creations it breathes. IT BREATHES! (see Mel Brooks' Frankenstein).

107120
life of its own, huh?

buddhuu
03-08-2018, 10:28 PM
As you should all know, UU is strictly a free-speech and sense-of-humour free zone. We tolerate nothing but bland, civil discourse on serious ukulele subjects.

This thread is a disgrace. It's locked and you're all banned.

Booli
03-09-2018, 12:27 AM
As you should all know, UU is strictly a free-speech and sense-of-humour free zone. We tolerate nothing but bland, civil discourse on serious ukulele subjects.

This thread is a disgrace. It's locked and you're all banned.

Rick, I nearly fell off my chair from laughing so hard when I read your post above.

Good one brother! :rock:

flailingfingers
03-09-2018, 03:45 AM
As you should all know, UU is strictly a free-speech and sense-of-humour free zone. We tolerate nothing but bland, civil discourse on serious ukulele subjects.

This thread is a disgrace. It's locked and you're all banned.

VICTORY! Thank you Rick. and thank you to all the participants. Our official BANNED BAD BOY certificates are in the mail.

juke jeff
05-26-2018, 03:54 PM
I agree. I come to UU for discussion of music and ukulele.

If I wanted excessive trolling, sarcasm, pub humor etc, I'd be on that 'Cosmos' forum instead.

On 'Cosmos', they all think of us here on UU as 'gentle snowflakes'.

If you want to lock horns with a 'Bad Boy', maybe Cosmos is a good place for that. Many of those folks banned from UU have taken refuge over there, and lovingly describe UU people as 'faeries' that they would like to pummel into submission and misery to be more like them.

I despise churn and friction for it's own sake, as well as conflict with folks who thrive on negativity, and like kohanmike, will usually just bow out if the person seems hell-bent on stirring things up for the sake of feeding off the negativity like a parasite.

I'm sure the moderators will agree, that kind of wasteful negativity is not welcome here on UU.


I have been a member of Cosmos for 10 years. The folks that I have met there are extremely helpful and friendly. Many I have met and become friends with. Why Booli would attack another forum is very disconcerting. There is no trolling on Cosmos, maybe some pub humor. It's more like a friendly pub. Having known many for over a decade, you become close. Folks have lost their spouses and children. I can't ever recall disparaging comments made about UU on Cosmos. Talking about negativity Booli, I guess you didn't read your own post. You said, “folks banned from UU have taken refuge on Cosmos, and lovingly describe UU people as 'faeries' that they would like to pummel into submission”. That is an outright lie Booli. I did a search on Cosmos for the word 'faeries'. The word faeries has only been used 4 times in the history of Cosmos and never to describe a UU member or anyone else. The word 'snowflake' has never been used on Cosmos to describe anyone ever, living or dead. I have been a member here on UU for over a decade, but I don't like the negativity and falsehoods spouted here.

Booli
05-26-2018, 06:09 PM
I have been a member of Cosmos for 10 years. The folks that I have met there are extremely helpful and friendly. Many I have met and become friends with. Why Booli would attack another forum is very disconcerting. There is no trolling on Cosmos, maybe some pub humor. It's more like a friendly pub. Having known many for over a decade, you become close. Folks have lost their spouses and children. I can't ever recall disparaging comments made about UU on Cosmos. Talking about negativity Booli, I guess you didn't read your own post. You said, “folks banned from UU have taken refuge on Cosmos, and lovingly describe UU people as 'faeries' that they would like to pummel into submission”. That is an outright lie Booli. I did a search on Cosmos for the word 'faeries'. The word faeries has only been used 4 times in the history of Cosmos and never to describe a UU member or anyone else. The word 'snowflake' has never been used on Cosmos to describe anyone ever, living or dead. I have been a member here on UU for over a decade, but I don't like the negativity and falsehoods spouted here.

Search for 'Booli' and around the time of those posts in other threads on Comsos you will see negative references to UU members as a whole. Some of those comments are by folks who go by the same user-names here on UU.

I am surprised that this thread is resurrected now, and with your comment.

Sure, you can take offense, but you do not have all the information.

If you still cannot find those posts, then maybe they were deleted, but I did in fact see them, sure as daylight, about a yr ago when I was checking out Cosmos, and no, I did NOT sign up under 'Booli', I used a different name on there, which I'll not reveal, so do not ask.

If you and others also on Cosmos are offended by my post here on UU, then I expect now there is a thread on Cosmos talking about me again. I just dont care.

I will not engage. Not my cup of tea.

If you enjoy Cosmos, then I am happy for you.

To each his own.

Yukon Cornelius
05-26-2018, 08:22 PM
UCB..........the OG uke bad boys

70sSanO
05-26-2018, 10:09 PM
I have been a member of Cosmos for 10 years.... I have been a member here on UU for over a decade, but I don't like the negativity and falsehoods spouted here.

I have no dog in this fight, but your statement about membership in UU for a decade would carry a tad bit more weight if you had more than 6 posts, including the one today, over those 10 years of dedication... lol.

John

70sSanO
05-26-2018, 10:23 PM
I have been a member of Cosmos for 10 years. The folks that I have met there are extremely helpful and friendly. Many I have met and become friends with. Why Booli would attack another forum is very disconcerting. There is no trolling on Cosmos, maybe some pub humor. It's more like a friendly pub. Having known many for over a decade, you become close. Folks have lost their spouses and children. I can't ever recall disparaging comments made about UU on Cosmos. Talking about negativity Booli, I guess you didn't read your own post. You said, “folks banned from UU have taken refuge on Cosmos, and lovingly describe UU people as 'faeries' that they would like to pummel into submission”. That is an outright lie Booli. I did a search on Cosmos for the word 'faeries'. The word faeries has only been used 4 times in the history of Cosmos and never to describe a UU member or anyone else. The word 'snowflake' has never been used on Cosmos to describe anyone ever, living or dead. I have been a member here on UU for over a decade, but I don't like the negativity and falsehoods spouted here.

I knew I remembered a thread on UC. Post #19 is especially heart warming unless your post was just trolling us in which case you got me.

https://forum.ukuleleunderground.com/showthread.php?110581-Ukulele-Cosmos-inactive/page2 teechip.com

See you in 2028!

John

Croaky Keith
05-26-2018, 11:40 PM
Maybe the bad boys got banned & took up refuge over on the Cosmos. ;)

I know I left the Cosmos because it was full of crass individuals that I would rather not associate with - & there wasn't as much uke videos either, they mainly just talked a load of crap on that forum. :(

mountain goat
05-27-2018, 01:17 AM
Jeff, so much bad blood between there and here over the years.
why you choose to deny and ignore it beggars belief.
aside from that, this may just be the most pointless thread ever begun.
reading Dick's repeated well's and interesting's is enough to kill a dead person.

ukantor
05-27-2018, 03:08 AM
I am a member of both UU and UC, and have been for more years than I care to remember. The problem with Cosmos is that it has always been a non-moderated forum - well, very lightly moderated. Many individuals have seen this as an opportunity to behave badly, but only a few have ever been banned. This has driven away many prospective members, and now we are reduced to a very small active membership, most of whom have been posting for years, and many know each other personally.

Underground is much more representative of the wider ukulele world. I must confess I find it a bit saccharin, and am constantly reminded of "The Truman Show", but you only have to look at the respective membership numbers to know which is the most successful at attracting and retaining new members. It is a great resource of information, assistance and advice.

John Colter

buddhuu
05-27-2018, 03:36 AM
We received a report about this thread: a complaint about " lies and disparaging comments about members of the Ukulele Cosmos Forum".

Reading through the thread again I don't really see that. While some members have been unable to locate the specific instances they say they recall, I think the link posted by 70sSanO illustrates that there has, indeed, been some hostility toward UU members. I think many of us were Cosmos members at one time and we know what we did or didn't read there.

I find the complaint in the report to have no real merit so I'm leaving this to run, but with a request that we keep it chilled.

stevepetergal
05-27-2018, 03:55 AM
It takes a lot to inspire outrage in me, so I'll not address your attempt at controversy but your question.
I agree UU has taken on an unfortunately warm and fuzzy spirit. Let's face it, the internet has developed a personality that attacks controversy (of even the most benign character) like a virus, and the UU is a microcosm of this larger beast. I feel for the moderators here. They have been forced by members of the community to remove controversy wherever it rears its beautiful head. I was once one of the antagonists around here, but posing unconventional or unpopular thoughts became self-destructive. Now, I visit and I feel like the atheist in the temple. It seems as though people want to hear what they want to hear and nothing else. The list of bright and valuable UU members who have clearly just given up is unfortunately long, and will likely grow.

Rllink
05-27-2018, 05:00 AM
It takes a lot to inspire outrage in me, so I'll not address your attempt at controversy but your question.
I agree UU has taken on an unfortunately warm and fuzzy spirit. Let's face it, the internet has developed a personality that attacks controversy (of even the most benign character) like a virus, and the UU is a microcosm of this larger beast. I feel for the moderators here. They have been forced by members of the community to remove controversy wherever it rears its beautiful head. I was once one of the antagonists around here, but posing unconventional or unpopular thoughts became self-destructive. Now, I visit and I feel like the atheist in the temple. It seems as though people want to hear what they want to hear and nothing else. The list of bright and valuable UU members who have clearly just given up is unfortunately long, and will likely grow.This is actually why I keep coming back I think. It is entertaining. I come from a world of meat eaters. I do pretty well with attacking and being attacked. If I'm looking for a fight I can go to a family picnic and get attacked and called names. That's nothing to me. I like watching people tip toe around everything. Sometimes it makes me laugh at what lengths people can go to in order to avoid any controversy. And I realize that we just go over the same things all the time. Any problem that anyone has is always one of the three things; Strings, Setup, or Straps. It is so predictable. It would be nice if something new and different would come up once in a while, but seriously, when it gets right down to it, what else is there? We are talking ukuleles here. What's left? The next step is fighting over strings, setups, and straps. Honestly, coming from where I come from it wouldn't be a big step for people to start laying into each other. I could see it getting out of hand pretty easily. I could see me getting out of hand pretty easily. So I'm glad we keep this place sanguine. Like I say, if I want a fight, I'll go talk to my brother and sister.

Ziret
05-27-2018, 05:22 AM
This is actually why I keep coming back I think. It is entertaining. I come from a world of meat eaters. I do pretty well with attacking and being attacked. If I'm looking for a fight I can go to a family picnic and get attacked and called names. That's nothing to me. I like watching people tip toe around everything. Sometimes it makes me laugh at what lengths people can go to in order to avoid any controversy. And I realize that we just go over the same things all the time. Any problem that anyone has is always one of the three things; Strings, Setup, or Straps. It is so predictable. It would be nice if something new and different would come up once in a while, but seriously, when it gets right down to it, what else is there? We are talking ukuleles here. What's left? The next step is fighting over strings, setups, and straps. Honestly, coming from where I come from it wouldn't be a big step for people to start laying into each other. I could see it getting out of hand pretty easily. I could see me getting out of hand pretty easily. So I'm glad we keep this place sanguine. Like I say, if I want a fight, I'll go talk to my brother and sister.

You forgot size.

Down Up Dick
05-27-2018, 05:51 AM
Jeff, so much bad blood between there and here over the years.
why you choose to deny and ignore it beggars belief.
aside from that, this may just be the most pointless thread ever begun.
reading Dick's repeated well's and interesting's is enough to kill a dead person.

The thread is pointless as you say, but very interesting—very, very interesting . . . :old:

70sSanO
05-27-2018, 05:54 AM
I for one am happy with the atmosphere of UU. It is nice to come to a forum where people are respectful to each other, even when it takes a little effort. It is unfortunate that we live in a world that thrives on controversy and confrontation. If anyone is missing that spirit and feels neglected, there are comment sections on many internet news sites that will probably meet your hopes and dreams for confrontation. Internet confrontation is easy. Showing some restraint seems to be a lost virtue in a world where everyone's opinion, and supporting ones, are the only ones that count.

I marvel at the UU NUD posts and the support people give others who are just excited to show it off. It doesn't matter if it is a starter ukulele or some high end custom built, people still comment. UU kind of reflects what attracts most people to the ukulele. It is an unobtrusive and joyful instrument.

John

Rllink
05-27-2018, 07:49 AM
I for one am happy with the atmosphere of UU. It is nice to come to a forum where people are respectful to each other, even when it takes a little effort. It is unfortunate that we live in a world that thrives on controversy and confrontation. If anyone is missing that spirit and feels neglected, there are comment sections on many internet news sites that will probably meet your hopes and dreams for confrontation. Internet confrontation is easy. Showing some restraint seems to be a lost virtue in a world where everyone's opinion, and supporting ones, are the only ones that count.

I marvel at the UU NUD posts and the support people give others who are just excited to show it off. It doesn't matter if it is a starter ukulele or some high end custom built, people still comment. UU kind of reflects what attracts most people to the ukulele. It is an unobtrusive and joyful instrument.

JohnHaha, ain't it the truth about the internet. When we have family reunions my cousin waits until they are over and then sends us a group email with her opinions on everything that the rest of us were fighting about. She's avoiding the head butting. Frankly, that's why I go to them. I think that you hit the nail on the head when you describe the attraction of the ukulele as unobtrusive and joyful. Being a bad azz ukulele player is like being in a moped gang. There is just nothing bad azz about it. That is what I love about the instrument. There is nothing to prove. You just play it and have fun.

Croaky Keith
05-27-2018, 10:18 PM
I don't know about them mixing politics with uke, when I was on there, they were just a bunch of foul mouthed people with loads of crass comments - certainly not what I want from a uke forum.

Where as, on here, I have learned to, & enjoyed, playing my ukes, in a civil & friendly environment, such a nice place to spend some time.

ukantor
05-27-2018, 11:28 PM
"A bunch of foul mouthed people with loads of crass comments" Yes, I well remember that era. Things are a lot more savoury, nowadays.

Tootler
05-28-2018, 12:46 AM
If you are a Cosmos member take a look, oddly enough there's a thread discussing UU. I recommend Booli doesn't as they are not very complementary about him. Otherwise the line is they recognise that UU has a different style and the two forums complement each other.

I've noticed the snarkiness, sometimes but I'm British so it doesn't really bother me. Also I've been a member of Mudcat Cafe for over 10 years and things can get really heated there - it puts Cosmos in the shade in that respect but if you can ignore that and are prepared to do some sifting, there's a mountain of knowledge available. I don't often go into Cosmos but I suspect it's the same.

Croaky Keith
05-28-2018, 12:57 AM
Well said Kieth, perhaps try again without mentioning your love of Margaret Thatcher and you will have more success?

You are SO wrong to label ME a Thatcherite - & as YOU just said, they don't really do ukes on that forum. :biglaugh::deadhorse:

Jerryc41
05-28-2018, 01:44 AM
I'm in favor of booting bad boys. I spend a lot of time on another forum (not uke), and some of the comments are truly vicious. Those bad boys have caused many people to leave that forum. I'm glad to see that this is a civilized forum.

Booli
05-28-2018, 03:46 AM
...I recommend Booli doesn't as they are not very complementary about him...

Thanks for the warning Geoff. It's a little late though, since I already saw those comments.

As expected they have to talk about me because I am not willing to lay down and be ridiculed by bullies.

Bullies, who are really cowards, and must have really small lives to worry about things I say on UU.

I am nobody, so for them to actually care, and write about it, proves my point about misanthropy being a popular habit over there.

One person, most recently, and specifically seems to take pleasure in ridiculing me for liking Fluke and Flea ukes, as well as commenting that I have ~6300 posts to UU, and to


'Get a life, or get a girlfriend.'


(verbatim quote)^

I was going to take a screen capture and share it, just in case these people decide to retract/delete their comments and try to make me look like a liar, but really, those that know me well enough will realize that I dont have to justify truth, as it is self-evident.

I just dont feel I need to spend the time to shame others. I will not stoop down to their level.

There is a saying that "if you lay down with swine, you will get covered in slop", so that game is not for me.

That same person who commented on my ~6300 posts to UU, whom I'll not dignify by name, also is a member here on UU. I guess malicious ignorance is also a habit enjoyed there as well.

My post count is high because I always try to CONTRIBUTE to the UU community in a meaningful way to help others. I dont have any interest in engaging with such chaff as I've seen over there.

Apparently they resent that, along with the basic human courtesy we use in the tone of communications here. Comparisons to The Truman Show and calling UU a 'saccharine' envirnoment.

If I wanted to discuss politics, there's plenty of other places for that online. I come to UU to discuss ukulele, music and planning meeting other UU members in real life.

I have in fact made many friends her eon UU that I've not only met in real life, but also become close friends with and see and talk to on a regular basis, so there is this false perception that the other place is the only one connecting people in the real world. THose connections are NOT unique to that other place.

If I wanted to trade jabs and immerse myself in pub humor, there are plenty of sanguine places for that as well, and it's all fun and game until someone loses an eye.

The point is, I dont engage in such behavior, not online and not in real life.

UU is not a place represented by hostility, sarcasm, and vulgar conversation. Other online forums are, but the other place has a real problem with the environment here on UU and they dont like it.

This I have observed well.

They also have a thread there about UU being offine or having formatting issues, and aside from general concern about accessing the site, there are also a handful of folks that waste no time in taking jabs at UU and UU members, again calling us saccharine.

I just dont get it. There is enoug tragedy and misery in the world already, so why conjure up even more?

Maybe it is so easy to hide behind a keyboard that some folks think that there are no consequences?

Well, karma is a bitch, and she bites and draws blood when she comes for her pound of flesh.

I myself, dont have to do anything, what goes around comes around.

I prefer to live by the standard of treating other folks how I would like to be treated, and have been very successful professionally, personally and socially with this practice.

It is sad that there are groups of people in the world who have nothing better to do than to condescend and fester in a pile of their own resentment and self-loathing.

But, hey, who am I to judge? To each his/her own.

Now that I've posted this here, I fully expect someone to copy and past all of this text over on that forum (true to form, just like they did before), and feed the troll-machine that wants to demonize me, and condescend on UU. Their level of vitriol is amazing to see.

Well, have at it folks. Enjoy yourself!

Over here at UU, we certainly always will be having a good 'ole syrupy-sweet time being nice to each other.

ukantor
05-28-2018, 05:01 AM
Booli, for someone who claims not to bothered by adverse comments, you sure have a lot say in refuting them, and go to great lengths to state that you are above such things. As I was the one who made the "saccharine" and "Truman Show" comments, I suppose I'd better respond. I'm surprised that Booli finds this so offensive. It was not meant to be insulting. It merely points out cultural differences displayed by the two forums in question. As it happens, I use both forums, and find both of them interesting and valuable. I have not said anything about UU that I would not repeat in a face to a face to face discussion. Neither do I hide behind the keyboard. I use my real name on Ukulele Cosmos, and frequently sign my name to my posts on UU.

Booli, I would like to meet you in person. I feel sure we would find we have much more in common than whatever divides us. I'll buy the first round.

John Colter.



"Festering in a pile of their own resentment, tragedy and misery"? That's a bit strong for a simple discussion of forum styles, isn't it?

Booli
05-28-2018, 05:17 AM
I've said enough here in this thread, and more than I ever wanted to in the first place.

After I post this comment, I'm leaving this thread, as I've got nothing to prove, nor need to justify what I said.

The truth exist in spite of me, those who want to see it can find it easily enough.

I'm not angry, not in the least, disappointed maybe, but I'm just going to live my life.

I prefer to focus my energy elsewhere.

Maybe I need to learn to not expect the best of people is all, since I am usually disappointed if I go down that path.

Seems that it's better to expect nothing, like in Buddhism.

Please carry on with out me here in this thread.

70sSanO
05-28-2018, 05:28 AM
...Being a bad azz ukulele player is like being in a moped gang. There is just nothing bad azz about it.

My favorite line in this whole thread. Booli is right about being cowards. I'm not saying that there is not anyone out there that can't take their uke down a dark alley, but I suspect that the typical ukulele player regardless of ability doesn't fit in that category. I mean we are still talking about the ukulele.

I've been on different forums and the ones that are just self serving I drop. And I think that is what comes into play in this discussion. I don't know anything about Cosmos, so I don't want to talk out of turn. But it seems to appeal to a certain group of people that have a similar outlook on life and how to live it. In that sense it is great. But the idea that anyone else's view of how life should be lived is somehow not real is truly rubbish. Lest I remind them... There are these islands in the Pacific that probably have a bit more credibility on how to approach the instrument as far being real people. I don't try to school Canadians on hockey. But you do represent a segment of ukulele players, that might be big fish small pond, but regardless it will always be part of the haole history on the ukulele.

John

kerneltime
05-28-2018, 06:02 AM
I have enough things do in my life.. I am trying to fit in learning the uke.. the reason I like UU (and am a UU+ member) is because it is productive and there are folks with really good and deep knowledge sharing their insights.. I am all for policing bullies and cowards who do not add to the knowledge within the community and discourage meaningful exchange of information. If you want a space for bad boys to roam free, start a new forum or dedicate only one thread to yourself..

Grizzly Adams
05-28-2018, 06:22 AM
I am new to UU, and have no idea what "bad boys" means in terms of actual persons. I will say that I have no use for "bad boys" in the context of this thread. The internet and forums in general are populated by folks who delight in bullying and belittling others from behind the safety of their keyboards. Over the years, I have monitored a number of boards, and banished a lot of of "bad boys" to the oblivion of cyberspace.

GA

Down Up Dick
05-28-2018, 06:52 AM
If everyone really loved the goodness and aloha spirit of the UU, this thread wouldn’t have the legs it has. High mindedness and strong desires to learn the ukulele or not, this thread is apparently very interesting—very, very interesting . . . :old:

kerneltime
05-28-2018, 08:52 AM
It is not interesting.. it is concerning and at least personally I want my opinion voiced on the topic.. We do not want to see the forum ruined by a few noisy folks.

Down Up Dick
05-28-2018, 10:51 AM
It is not interesting.. it is concerning and at least personally I want my opinion voiced on the topic.. We do not want to see the forum ruined by a few noisy folks.

There isn’t really much of a topic, and what little there is just asks where the “few noisy folks” have gone. They are —uhh— gone; I guess.

It was so long and drawn out because it was interesting—very interesting . . . :old:

sculptor
05-30-2018, 07:00 PM
Don't miss that kind of stuff at all. A few times I was called out by a member for no good reason at all, but because I hate confrontation, I didn't respond. I believe if you don't have something good to say, don't say anything at all. One of my favorite recent songs that our group does is "Happy" by Pharrell Williams.

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I strongly disagree with what you said about not ever saying anything negative. When you see something that really truly needs criticism keeping your mouth shut is doing a great disservice to all concerned.

-- Gary

Down Up Dick
05-30-2018, 07:44 PM
Well, phoop and gnarr, the darned thing was on it’s way back to the graveyard, and, now, it’s back with us. I think the interest is pretty much wrung out of it though. :deadhorse: :old: