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lifereinspired
04-09-2018, 09:17 AM
Hi All!

I just wanted to share this for those that may not have seen the other thread that mentions this. KLOS has been running a successful crowdfunding campaign on Indiegogo and was fully funded in less than 30 minutes after starting. There are still 4 days to go and you can get a KLOS 20% off or more of the retail price (depending on which option you get). This is radically more affordable than options like the Blackbird and the initial reviews have been positive. It's a highly durable carbon fiber tenor uke.

They have lots of videos now showing the uke's sound as well as a few crazy videos showing the durability, for fun. You can see their videos here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2VIZcRfnLIOxsfnOPVvo-Q

I wanted to make sure that anyone interested had the chance to get the uke before it goes to retail pricing. From what little I can tell, it appears there are few "sales" on KLOS instruments after they go to retail so this seems to be a good price that will probably be hard to find again. There will be the chance to add a few "options" including strap buttons, stiffening rods, Low-G (they will alter the nut to fit Low-G strings), etc after the campaign closes. I wasn't sure how that was going to work and reached out to KLOS to ask, early in the campaign. I was pleasantly surprised with Adam Klos himself responded personally, the very next day. Good customer service.

Here's a direct link to the KLOS Ukulele campaign on Indiegogo: https://igg.me/at/4VYpHgrSHtw/x/17674574 I can't seem to find the exact time that it ends but it just changed to 3 days left, so it must end sometime Thursday, April 12. Please correct or add more specific info if you find it.

Lastly, here's a link to the other thread that was started back when the KLOS uke was just a bit more than a rumor and myth, before the campaign was announced. It has some good information for those interested. http://forum.ukuleleunderground.com/showthread.php?130460-Maybe-a-KLOS-carbon-fiber-ukulele-in-the-works

Hope that proves helpful! Sorry if this stokes UAS in anyone. ;) Have fun with your ukes!

PS I don't know the specifics, but KLOS is advertising that they have special deal on some of their guitars during the Indiegogo uke campaign, to celebrate. You may have to contact them to find out the specifics but if you know anyone who wants a KLOS guitar, it also may be worth contacting them to ask about it. The info is near the bottom of the Indiegogo KLOS Uke campaign, if you want to check it out specifically.

cyber3d
04-09-2018, 12:08 PM
I was the 28th person to order the Deluxe Acoustic Electric a few days ago and it's now up to 44 orders out of the 50 total available of this particular style. Going Fast!

There are only a couple of manufacturers I'd trust to build a superior Carbon Fiber acoustic guitar: Blackbird and Klos.

On a side note, there are a number of ukes being advertised as carbon fiber and they are not . . . technically. They are injection molded carbon composite ukes. Totally different. The Klos and Blackbird are made of woven carbon fiber material. If you can't see the weave, it ain't the real deal. It is impossible to get the tonal quality from an inj molded or 3D printed soundboard. Just me 2 cents.

70sSanO
04-09-2018, 03:16 PM
I am getting just the basic. I missed the initial offer at $419 and paid $439. That said, I will probably opt for the stiffening rods and the tusq/graphtech upgrades. Hopefully it will be a pretty indestructible toss in the car take anywhere uke. For me electronics don't fit well in some environments.

John

lifereinspired
04-09-2018, 06:12 PM
I am getting just the basic. I missed the initial offer at $419 and paid $439. That said, I will probably opt for the stiffening rods and the tusq/graphtech upgrades. Hopefully it will be a pretty indestructible toss in the car take anywhere uke. For me electronics don't fit well in some environments.

John

Interesting! I didn't know that the graphtech/tusq would be a potential upgrade. That is quite intriguing. I may have to consider that! Those are actually the main things I was interested in on the deluxe model. I'm passing on electrics as well, opting for other options for recording/amplification if I want later on. :)

besley
04-09-2018, 06:51 PM
Interesting! I didn't know that the graphtech/tusq would be a potential upgrade. That is quite intriguing. I may have to consider that! Those are actually the main things I was interested in on the deluxe model. I'm passing on electrics as well, opting for other options for recording/amplification if I want later on. :)

I hadn't seen any mention yet of upgrades being available on the nut and saddle. I wasn't thinking about it, considering that I don't feel these are as critical on a uke as they are on a guitar. But I just noticed that on their basic model KLOS guitar the nut and saddle are listed as "White ABS", which is essentially just cheap plastic. Heck, even cheap ukes nowadays come with bone or Micarta saddles and nuts. So I think I will spring for Graphtech upgrades if they are offered.

70sSanO
04-09-2018, 08:12 PM
I sent a question about the graphtech upgrade to Adam Klosowiak and here was his response:

Hey John,

That will be an option when the campaign is over!

Thanks,
Adam

On the stiffening rods option, I did not ask, but I recall from seeing that question from someone else and the response was the same for any options that would be available.

John

besley
04-10-2018, 06:24 AM
I've emailed Adam a number of times too. I think he would have saved himself a lot of bother from eager uke players if they had made more of this clear at the start of the campaign!

lifereinspired
04-11-2018, 09:54 AM
I've emailed Adam a number of times too. I think he would have saved himself a lot of bother from eager uke players if they had made more of this clear at the start of the campaign!

Agreed! I wasn't sure when I "backed" the campaign if I was doing it right, since there was literally no info at the time on the options/upgrades. Having said that, I was completely impressed that when I wrote him and asked the question right after ordering, I received a personal, informative response directly from Adam directly. Pretty awesome customer service. :)

Awesome to hear that the Graphtech/TUSQ will be upgrade options! Exciting. Those where what I was really wanting on the Deluxe so I may be able to get just those on the basic. Nice - and a great choice by KLOS. And, to confirm the strap buttons and the stiffening rods will definitely also be upgrade options as well.

MincerRay
04-11-2018, 03:29 PM
I wasn't sure whether to get the electric or deluxe. I inquired about the cost of some of the deluxe options I'd like to add to the electric and this is the response:
Strap pins $20
TUSQ saddle and nut: $30
graphtech tuners: $75.

So that's $125, which is only $25 shy of the deluxe. I'll probably just get the deluxe then and get the updated fishman and flourocarbon strings. Oh yeah, and the keychain ukulele sound hole, whatever that is. :D
-steve

Ctmpwrdcamry
04-11-2018, 05:13 PM
.looks like the upgrade list could easily be the cost of another uke! Tuners are probably something I could change later if I felt the need. Strap buttons/ stiffing in rods and saddle/nut, not so much. Am I missing something about the tuner because I am new to ukulele?

besley
04-11-2018, 07:48 PM
.......Am I missing something about the tuner because I am new to ukulele?

I wouldn't spend another $75 for the Graph Tech Ratio Tuners. The deal with these is that the gear ratio changes with the string diameter, so that a 1/4 turn on each achieves the same change in pitch for each string. Note that they were developed for acoustic steel guitars, so I'm not sure how that translates to ukuleles. But even the least expensive geared tuners seem to work fine on a uke, so I wouldn't see the need for that upgrade. I also just noticed that only the deluxe version of the uke comes with fluorocarbon strings, while the lesser two models comes with nylon. I expect to change strings anyway, that does seem rather cheap of the company. I mean, Martin fluorcarbon strings are like $6 a set.

cyber3d
04-11-2018, 08:59 PM
ON the other hand, anyone who spends hundreds of dollars on a uke will likely change their strings in anycase. Fluorocarbon or not. Strings are such a personal matter of taste and so cheap. I think they made this assumption. I will be ordering either Romero or Worth brown strings (or both) when ETA gets closer and I may mix and match strings. Graph Tech Tuners? First time I've heard of them really. Just went to their website and I love the technology/engineering of these tuners.

Ctmpwrdcamry
04-12-2018, 06:49 AM
I wouldn't spend another $75 for the Graph Tech Ratio Tuners. The deal with these is that the gear ratio changes with the string diameter, so that a 1/4 turn on each achieves the same change in pitch for each string. Note that they were developed for acoustic steel guitars, so I'm not sure how that translates to ukuleles. But even the least expensive geared tuners seem to work fine on a uke, so I wouldn't see the need for that upgrade. I also just noticed that only the deluxe version of the uke comes with fluorocarbon strings, while the lesser two models comes with nylon. I expect to change strings anyway, that does seem rather cheap of the company. I mean, Martin fluorcarbon strings are like $6 a set.

That is cool tech for a tuner, but Ill save the 75. I currently have Magic Fluke Ukuleles and like the friction tuners. I am looking to upgrade those to nicer units, but geared tuners should be fine.

70sSanO
04-12-2018, 12:13 PM
I agree that the Graphtech tuners are not worth the cost. For me the TUSQ saddle and nut for $30 and probably stiffening rods will be the only options. I'd be interested in what the stiffeners are going to cost. I can see a need for them in some environments.

John

lifereinspired
04-12-2018, 02:11 PM
I wasn't sure whether to get the electric or deluxe. I inquired about the cost of some of the deluxe options I'd like to add to the electric and this is the response:
Strap pins $20
TUSQ saddle and nut: $30
graphtech tuners: $75.

So that's $125, which is only $25 shy of the deluxe. I'll probably just get the deluxe then and get the updated fishman and flourocarbon strings. Oh yeah, and the keychain ukulele sound hole, whatever that is. :D
-steve

I must be missing something on the math because the Deluxe is $649 and the standard is either $419 or $439 - and difference of either $230 or $210. Still likely agree that the tuners aren't worth it but means that one isn't missing the pickup for just $25 difference. It's the $230 difference that I couldn't justify in the beginning. I'll definitely add the strap pins, don't really have a choice because due to severe health issues, I rely on a strap not to drop my uke (even though this particular uke could survive that, I don't want risk it!) and the stiffening rod(s) I would think would help long term durability. For $30 the TUSQ seems like a good option and one that would be much more difficult to do later on whereas, my understanding is that tuners can much more easily be changed later, if desired. So, looks like I'll be springing for around $80 in upgrades, if the stiffening rods come in the same price as on the guitars (which could be less, given that ukes are smaller - though I'm not sure they'll go that way). Plus, even though the tuners sound like very cool technology, I'm not sure that will affect the actual "tone" of the uke like the TUSC nut/saddle would. Is that correct? Still learning...

lifereinspired
04-12-2018, 02:17 PM
@70sSanO, I believe on the guitars they run $30 so I'm thinking somewhere around there or possibly a bit less, given the smaller size of the uke. Having said that, I'm not sure most manufacturers see things that way so I'm thinking more likely the same price as guitar. ;)

(To confirm pricing click the following link: https://klosguitars.com/products/klos-carbon-fiber-acoustic-electric-guitar?variant=8582839107627. Now, you can add or remove the stiffening rods and see the price@70s difference, or at least, that's how I found it.)

cyber3d
04-12-2018, 02:22 PM
One of the reasons I chose the Deluxe was for the Kula preamp (the non-deluxe model has the Fishman Sonitone preamp). It has EQ low, mid, high and a kinda fun tuner built in. I think the value of the package is well worth the price.

lifereinspired
04-12-2018, 02:26 PM
One of the reasons I chose the Deluxe was for the Kula preamp (the non-deluxe model has the Fishman Sonitone preamp). It has EQ low, mid, high and a kinda fun tuner built in. I think the value of the package is well worth the price.

No doubt! If I had the extra $$, I would have LOVED that package. I think it's great. I just couldn't quite justify the difference for myself from the Early Bird price, which I was fortunate enough to get. Otherwise, the Deluxe is a "dream uke". Good for you for grabbing one!

Heavy2600
04-12-2018, 02:41 PM
Curious if you buyers intend to use them outdoors/backpacking? Curious about the appeal for high end synthetic ukes. The bridge and fretboard are still wood, so why go carbon fiber?

70sSanO
04-12-2018, 03:35 PM
Curious if you buyers intend to use them outdoors/backpacking? Curious about the appeal for high end synthetic ukes. The bridge and fretboard are still wood, so why go carbon fiber?

It will be a ukulele that I can toss in the car, take on trips, etc. without worrying about the environment or even what happens to it very much. Obviously leaving the uke in the car in Phoenix in July might be an issue, but I'm not sure what the temperature limit would be to cause a problem. The wood fretboard doesn't concern me. I am a bit concerned about the graphite covered wood neck, which is why the stiffening rods might must have.

The other caveat will be the sound. If the production ukes sound like the samples and are nice playing, it will serve its purpose. If it doesn't live up to it, it won't be used much.

I recently picked up a used Clara that has its share of issues, but I've worked around them. Until now I never knew how nice it is to take a ukulele around without having to worry about it. I'm hoping the KLOS will be a tenor version of that worry free instrument.

John

Heavy2600
04-12-2018, 03:51 PM
Thanks 70sSanO. I totally see an arid or cold climate market. I am just curious who is buying and for what use. Most outdoor ukes do lack a quality sound, and that would justify a higher price.

MincerRay
04-12-2018, 04:32 PM
I was comparing the price of the electric vs deluxe, a $150 difference. The extras plus the Kula preamp seemed like a decent deal to me.

I spend a lot of time in the summer camping at a private resort in the dry CA climate. I play a lot of uke there with friends. I had a heck of a time keeping my KoAloha Opio humidified. I was considering getting a nice K brand tenor with a pickup but realized the KLOS would be a better fit for how I plan to use it. Their guitars are highly regarded so I have high hopes for their uke. We shall see.

Steve



I must be missing something on the math because the Deluxe is $649 and the standard is either $419 or $439 - and difference of either $230 or $210. Still likely agree that the tuners aren't worth it but means that one isn't missing the pickup for just $25 difference. It's the $230 difference that I couldn't justify in the beginning. I'll definitely add the strap pins, don't really have a choice because due to severe health issues, I rely on a strap not to drop my uke (even though this particular uke could survive that, I don't want risk it!) and the stiffening rod(s) I would think would help long term durability. For $30 the TUSQ seems like a good option and one that would be much more difficult to do later on whereas, my understanding is that tuners can much more easily be changed later, if desired. So, looks like I'll be springing for around $80 in upgrades, if the stiffening rods come in the same price as on the guitars (which could be less, given that ukes are smaller - though I'm not sure they'll go that way). Plus, even though the tuners sound like very cool technology, I'm not sure that will affect the actual "tone" of the uke like the TUSC nut/saddle would. Is that correct? Still learning...

cyber3d
04-12-2018, 05:00 PM
The Indiegogo site says only 4 hours left. So, Midnight tonight the campaign ends Thurs April 12 at midnight (Pacific Time). Does that mean it really ends and the discounts will be gone? I guess regular prices begin on their website? https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/klos-carbon-fiber-ukulele-world-s-best-ukulele/x/17168876#/

besley
04-12-2018, 07:07 PM
The Indiegogo site says only 4 hours left. So, Midnight tonight the campaign ends Thurs April 12 at midnight (Pacific Time). Does that mean it really ends and the discounts will be gone? I guess regular prices begin on their website? https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/klos-carbon-fiber-ukulele-world-s-best-ukulele/x/17168876#/

On the other hand.....I got a newsletter from KLOS today that said:

"We are pumping out products at a breakneck pace here at KLOS Guitars. The ukulele has successfully launched with over 200 ukes sold in the last month, with the initial campaign ending today. The ukulele pre order page will remain open for another two months as we accept more pre-orders, though some pricing and deadlines will increase."

So make of that what you will.

lifereinspired
04-12-2018, 08:38 PM
Curious if you buyers intend to use them outdoors/backpacking? Curious about the appeal for high end synthetic ukes. The bridge and fretboard are still wood, so why go carbon fiber?

I have an Outdoor Ukulele Carbon Soprano that is my "take everywhere" but I wanted a tenor uke, too. We live in an area that's difficult on wooden instruments and I don't want to be worrying about constantly using a humidifier and dealing with buzzing, etc due to dryness, let alone potential damage. Even in our local music stores, there are instruments that are messed up due to low humidity. I also am a "tech geek" and enjoy nerdy, modern materials like carbon fiber and their durability. I've also been happy with the sound and resonance I've heard of the KLOS on their videos. And, although it won't go as much as my OU, I don't ever have to be worried about bringing it with me anywhere and I love that. These, for me, are my two "dream ukes". I want my ukes to be for playing, anytime anywhere, rather than being worried about damaging a "case queen". And I purposely want to keep my uke collection small. Maybe one day I'll add a one more in wood. One of our local stores is quite unique and sometimes gets in one-of-a-kind, handmade ukes. Maybe something like that one day - but for now, I'll have everything I want with these two. But that's just me. ;)

ukeinfused
04-13-2018, 07:09 AM
I just know that video is going to infest my nightmares! LOL.
I wondered when there would be a company to compete with the Blackbirds. Can't wait to see what you all think!
Ima going to hang out and wait for a concert size...

strumsilly
04-13-2018, 07:28 AM
If one could make me sound like Jake, I'd buy 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=81&v=lPNgZ5i3BRw

MsMartian
04-13-2018, 09:49 AM
Curious if you buyers intend to use them outdoors/backpacking? Curious about the appeal for high end synthetic ukes. The bridge and fretboard are still wood, so why go carbon fiber?

i have a carbon fiber cello and absolutely love the big, clean sound. i prefer it to wooden cellos.

so i am hoping there is an analogy with carbon fiber ukuleles. they sound good in the videos. i just ordered one :music:

LPeacock
04-19-2018, 04:33 AM
How do you like it? Do you have any opinion as to the OU Carbon Uke vs. their standard uke?

besley
04-19-2018, 12:22 PM
How do you like it? Do you have any opinion as to the OU Carbon Uke vs. their standard uke?

Are you asking how does the standard KLOS uke compare with the Outdoor Uke? If so, then we can't say, since the KLOS hasn't been released yet. And remember, the Outdoor Uke Carbon isn't really a "carbon fiber" uke - it's a high quality (not a "toy") "plastic" polycarbonate uke with carbon fibers in place of the standard glass fibers as reinforcement, made using injection molding. Hardly the same as the thermoset process used to make carbon fiber instruments like the Blackbird, or now the KLOS. I've got a KLOS on order, and I'll be super interested in seeing how it compares with my Blackbird Farallon, at 1/3 the cost.

Choirguy
04-19-2018, 12:35 PM
I was just thinking about the initial pricing element..I’ll wait in the wings until someone buys one and decides to sell. I do wish they were offering a concert. Outdoor Ukulele...same thing. Looking forward to a Concert.

cyber3d
04-27-2018, 08:34 PM
Beginning to get real excited about receiving my KLOS! Got the email to choose options for my uke. Since I am getting the Deluxe Electric the only options I got were the Carbon Fibre stiffening rods and Low G setup. Was tempted to get engraving. But, decided not to.

Once I get it, I'll play it for a bit and take it to U-Space Ukulele and see what strings might suit my style.

besley
04-28-2018, 06:43 AM
Beginning to get real excited about receiving my KLOS! Got the email to choose options for my uke. Since I am getting the Deluxe Electric the only options I got were the Carbon Fibre stiffening rods and Low G setup.

I went with Low G, strap pins, stiffening rods, and Tusq saddle/nut. The only one I really needed was the strap pins, but I couldn't resist the others.