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captain-janeway
05-18-2018, 06:02 PM
question for people as to playability:
I was thinking of putting a concert neck on a 10" Remo hand drum. This one, not one with a ring and tuning hooks:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002F7KGK/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A36ZEJOFQT6QSO

Looking at measurements, for correct bridge placement, it would put the bridge about in the center of the drum head. I haven't seen a banjo uke with the fretboard extending over the drum surface, so I can't think of another way to set it up.

My question is: how much will it affect sound to have the bridge almost in the center of the drum?

I'm a new player, but love banjo sound. I just got a Duke10, but the tenor neck may be too big. The more I practice on a concert the better I seem to be able to play on the tenor, so it may become a non-issue.

I was thinking maybe I could custom build one for myself to give it the bigger head and smaller neck. I was thinking it might sound more "banjo-y" but I could be wrong.

Any ideas?

DPO
05-18-2018, 07:56 PM
question for people as to playability:
I was thinking of putting a concert neck on a 10" Remo hand drum. This one, not one with a ring and tuning hooks:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002F7KGK/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A36ZEJOFQT6QSO

Looking at measurements, for correct bridge placement, it would put the bridge about in the center of the drum head. I haven't seen a banjo uke with the fretboard extending over the drum surface, so I can't think of another way to set it up.

My question is: how much will it affect sound to have the bridge almost in the center of the drum?

I'm a new player, but love banjo sound. I just got a Duke10, but the tenor neck may be too big. The more I practice on a concert the better I seem to be able to play on the tenor, so it may become a non-issue.

I was thinking maybe I could custom build one for myself to give it the bigger head and smaller neck. I was thinking it might sound more "banjo-y" but I could be wrong.

Any ideas?

See here.

http://forum.ukuleleunderground.com/showthread.php?122762-FS-Southern-Cross-Banjo-Uke-New-Model-quot-The

The bridge was about right for placement. Concert Scale 14.7 inches, worked well, not as loud as some banjo ukes but very playable. One day I may make another couple just for the hell of it.

captain-janeway
05-20-2018, 11:25 AM
Dennis,

That's really beautiful. I guess I can try to figure out construction, but how about a truss rod like this:
http://www.stewmac.com/Materials_and_Supplies/Truss_Rods/Adjustable_Truss_Rods/Traditional_Truss_Rod_Kit.html
a hanger bolt, held together with a coupling nut like this
https://www.amazon.com/Paradise-Harbor-Coupling-Stainless-Extension/dp/B07BDK6Q57/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1526850833&sr=8-31&keywords=threaded+connecting+rod

I'll have to figure a way to put on a tailpiece, but I think you can see where I'm going.
If I'm using a purchased neck/fretboard I'm guessing I'd have to put a spacer block at bottom of neck since fretboard are longer than the neck, correct? Or maybe a tenor length neck and a concert fretboard would come out about even? I'll have to do some more measurements.

Thanks. And thanks for letting me see the lovely instrument you made.

orangeena
05-21-2018, 03:42 AM
Hello
I have made a few banjolele's from hand drums, but they have all been those ones that have head tightening mechanisms. I'd be a bit concerned that the bridge might sink once the strings are tensioned, or if the skin stretches in humid conditions. The last couple I made had floating fretboards that extended over the drum an inch or so. That works ok but it is hard to reach those frets.
Regards
Max

captain-janeway
05-21-2018, 04:11 AM
Thanks orangeena

jcalkin
05-25-2018, 04:21 AM
I've made "mountain banjos" with hand drum skin heads. The bridges do sink making them unplayable, but they shrink back if tension is released. Problem solved by making a light pencil line on the head where the bridge sits. When the instrument was put up I flipped down the bridge to remove tension. The bridge was trapped by the slack strings. Flipping it back up into playing position took only a second, and it always remianed playable during sessions. So far I've had no problems with synthetic heads stretching.

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captain-janeway
05-25-2018, 09:20 AM
I've made "mountain banjos" with hand drum skin heads. The bridges do sink making them unplayable, but they shrink back if tension is released. Problem solved by making a light pencil line on the head where the bridge sits. When the instrument was put up I flipped down the bridge to remove tension. The bridge was trapped by the slack strings. Flipping it back up into playing position took only a second, and it always remianed playable during sessions. So far I've had no problems with synthetic heads stretching.

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Thanks. Didn't think those Remo heads would stretch. Nice idea to just drop the bridge to side. Should I be doing it with the Duke I just bought or do the tuners take care of that? May get rid of it, but really hoping I can get my hands to stretch as I become a better player.

captain-janeway
05-25-2018, 09:22 AM
BTW jcalkin-- beautiful banjo! Wish I could play banjo, but the distance between frets is way too much for me