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mimmo
07-03-2018, 08:44 PM
Alhoa guys,
Mimmo of aquila there...
You know the recent Sugar uke strings made from sugar cane- polymer that are so bright... well, I had the idea to make a few of red series sets using Sugar polymer, that it is bright itshelf, instead nylgut one.

The results is amazing: the sound is louder & brighter than before, the strings are strong and with a nice even colour and perfectly smooth.

My question is:
are there some red series lovers that like to give a try on this version?
Volunteers....
I am really happy about the results but I need your feedback guys. I am not a good player.
Of course 5 or 6 guys are wecome...not more. When I am ok I will send a messsage there that I have find enought testers.

I have available: soprano, concert, Tenor (all high G).

Please mail me to:
mperuffo@aquilacorde.com
I must have:
the instrument type, name surname, the complete adress plus a phone number.
Thanks!
Mimmo- Italy

mimmo
07-03-2018, 11:55 PM
Hi guys,
I had a few of contact and some unfortunately has experiece with the red series set: unfortunately thi is not usefull at all.
I need somebody that already well knows the red series strings so the comparation is usefull to us
Thanks!
Mimmo

mimmo
07-04-2018, 06:43 AM
Thank you very much guys!
I have a good amount of testers now
Thanks!
Mimmo

Uke Don
07-04-2018, 06:48 AM
Mimmo - Have you modified the Sugar formula to make the strings less squeaky?

fromthee2me
07-04-2018, 06:46 PM
I second Ubulele's reply. Also interested in red series, to try and step away from wound strings for Baritone ukes.

I have one Baritone strung with 3 red strings and one wound. The red strings sound nice and are holding out. On my Bruko Baritone I have Worth.

I also have a Pono, but the original strings (by supplier) consist of two wound and two nylon.

mimmo
07-04-2018, 09:03 PM
Hi guys,
I have done a not professional video were you can hear the difference, on a same model of ukulele, between the traditional red Series and these one (that are not in the market)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=36&v=gMbLvSG4h2I

Ciao Ubulele, it is not possible to make smoother low g unwond reds (sorry). At the end of the day, even a wound string is not smooth. :D The sugar version of the single red for low G are already in the market since 4 months almost.

Baritone unwound 3rd & 4th:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-QDutnmhfE

last thing: the samples are sent out to the testers

a big thanks for the collaboration! :)
Mimmo

M3Ukulele
07-05-2018, 05:34 AM
HI Mimmo,
I like what you are doing and how you keep advancing your own string technology. I liked RED, I haven't tried Sugar just cause I have not ordered recently. I will try Sugars for sure.

I like the simple sound test and love the new Sugar Reds. Keep us posted, I will buy some for sure.

Cheers

Jim Hanks
07-05-2018, 01:44 PM
The sugar version of the single red for low G are already in the market since 4 months almost.
Baritone unwound 3rd & 4th:
Wait, those are available? What is the number? 156U says "two wound"
https://www.stringsbymail.com/aquila-sugar-156u-baritone-ukulele-strings-low-d-2-wound-full-set-18525.html

89U also says "two wound" : https://www.stringsbymail.com/aquila-red-baritone-ukulele-strings-ukulele-dgbe-tuning-2-wound-89u-12437.html

:confused:

fromthee2me
07-06-2018, 05:51 PM
@ Jim Hanks. I think all emporiums will try to get rid of their old stock first . . . . . .

Jim Hanks
07-06-2018, 06:14 PM
@ Jim Hanks. I think all emporiums will try to get rid of their old stock first . . . . . .

Ok, but even the Aquila site says 89U is two wounds. If there is anybody selling a set with "baritone unwound 3rd & 4th" I sure can't find it.

Osprey
07-07-2018, 03:43 AM
Ok, but even the Aquila site says 89U is two wounds. If there is anybody selling a set with "baritone unwound 3rd & 4th" I sure can't find it.

I would like to try unwound 3rd and 4th strings for a Baritone as well. As much as I like the sound of wound strings they tear my fingernails to bits.

Ziret
07-09-2018, 12:25 PM
Strings arrived today, thank you, Mimmo, I'm putting them on the concert right now.

mimmo
07-10-2018, 04:25 AM
good to hear that Ziret. be patien with them: the best sound come out after a few hours. if you stetch them by hands the process is even faster,
then please tell us what happens!
Grazie mille
Mimmo

Ziret
07-10-2018, 12:43 PM
They really did settle in quickly, I put them on about 3 pm and they were doing great by 6 pm and were fine by the morning.

I am delighted with the sound. I liked Carbonblack on that uke, but can't get them any more. I think these are better. I disliked the Sugar strings on it, so I'm not sure what kind of magic you worked this time, but they sound great. I also like Nylgut on this uke, but much prefer the Reds. They are louder than Nylgut, and, I think, brighter.

They also feel great. I prefer the thinness of fluorocarbon to Nylgut, and these are as thin as fluorocarbon. (As far as I can tell.) They don't make any whispery sounds and they don't feel rough. I like the tension, too. They are not low tension, but they're not high, either. Perhaps a bit more on the high end of the middle. Very comfortable.

Mimmo, you were kind enough to send me sets for soprano and tenor, as well. Would you like me to put those on, or is this enough feedback from one person. My other ukes don't really need a string change right now, but it wouldn't do them any harm. It just wouldn't happen till the weekend, I don't think.

mimmo
07-10-2018, 09:12 PM
Ziret.... sugar and metal powder togheter make the miracle. The sound is what I never heard on all the ukulele strings I have seen . I wonder: maybe it is too bright? These strings actually are of bridge between Carbon and metal strings (wait what happens in a couple of days..). Is it good for the ukulele? I remember its origin with gut strings, whose sound was warm, mellow and with no sustain. So crazy....
Mimmo

Ziret
07-11-2018, 05:45 AM
Interesting, I have a friend who dislikes Reds because he thinks they sound like steel strings. I'm going to see what he says about these and I'll let you know.

As for me, plenty of sustain is great--I don't think it's possible to have to much--and bright is great, particularly on a mahogany concert. But now I'm curious if they would be too much on a koa soprano. I haven't liked Reds on them, at all. I'll test that, I can always move them to the Flight soprano, which could use some brightening.

Excited to hear what they'll sound like tomorrow.

Nickie
07-11-2018, 05:11 PM
Mimmo,
Although I do prefer a thinner profile, I think I'll try the Sugar and the Sugar Reds, too, when they are on the market. Please keep us posted. I really liked the Reds, I think I like the Sugar Reds sound better...

Spicysteve
07-13-2018, 04:53 PM
The Sugar/Reds arrived Wednesday. I finally had the time to instal them on my Oscar Schmidt Laminated Tenor.
These are replacing Reds that had replaced Super Nylguts. So thrilled to say these have great warmth with bright clarity at the same time, no squeak at all and as smooth as the Carbonblacks I have on my solid acacia concert.
Without a doubt the closest I have felt to a fluorocarbons. Nice balance between the strings with great sustain.
I would buy a set for every uke I own just to see if they perform as well on other ukes.
I would hope that Aquila could produce a Baritone set also.
Thank you to Mimmo for the chance to try this new line. Hopefully they will make it to market.
I will try to give an update again tomorrow after some settling in and playing time.

Cheers,

Steve.

mimmo
07-13-2018, 08:54 PM
Great to herar that! thanks
At present I am very busy with the italian aquila ukulele fest there in my town (Vicenza)
https://aquilaukulelefestival.com/
and there:
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=aquila%20corde%20armoniche%20srl

https://www.facebook.com/mercatinodellukulele.it/videos/2269017439781290/UzpfSTEwMDAyNTkzNjUzOTUxNToxNjkxODQ2OTcyODk0MTQ/

Said that what i can tell you is:
1) I have done experimental sets for: Venezuelan Cuatro,. Cavaqhinho, Timple canario (I am thinking also for the 5 string banjo). Calssical guitar, Guilele/Guitalele A tuning
2) Baritone? Yes, of course guy

Please remember that the sound became better & better over the time: after 1 day it is far brighter than fluiorocabon strings (maybe too muchm, in my opinion)
Ciao!
Mimmo

Ziret
07-14-2018, 09:12 AM
Mimmo, I wanted to let you know of a potential problem with the A string on the concert set. I don't know whether it's simply a problem with the one I got, or all of them, but as I go up the neck, that one gets progressively more flat till it ends up a half step off. It's fine till about the 4th fret.

Teri

mimmo
07-15-2018, 11:25 PM
Ziret, I have never seen this thing.
All the samples are ok there.
I hyave not idea what happens.
However: the other strings are ok? what about the sound?
Mimmo

Spicysteve
07-18-2018, 08:53 PM
I was able to get more playing time this week with the Sugar/Reds. I would agree with Mimmo that they are brighter than they were at the initial installation but they still have balance between the strings and I don’t find them too bright. Still smooth under your fingers and no squeaking. I remain quite happy with them on this all laminate Tenor.
I am excited to eventually try them on my solid acacia concert and my tenor outdoor ukulele. I believe they will be just the ticket to bring the volume up on the OU. I am going to try a set of regular Sugars on the OU as I imagine they will bring it more voice as I eagerly await a possible release of these new Sugar/Reds.

Thanks again Mimmo for your progressive approach to string design and your involvement in the uke community.

Creb
07-23-2018, 08:28 AM
I eagerly await a possible release of these new Sugar/Reds.

Thanks again Mimmo for your progressive approach to string design and your involvement in the uke community.

I concur with Spicysteve. Aquila has excellent quality and innovations in my experience. SUGAR REDS sound like a great concept and I would certainly buy them.

Ziret
07-24-2018, 03:53 AM
Ziret, I have never seen this thing.
All the samples are ok there.
I hyave not idea what happens.
However: the other strings are ok? what about the sound?
Mimmo

They sound wonderful. It takes my ear a minute to adjust, then I love it. I asked my friend who thinks reds sound too metallic, and he liked these.

I put them on a Flight (same as Mahilele) soprano which I think has too much midrange. They seemed like they needed more tension, so I tuned it up to D, and WOW. I've never heard anything like it. I bet they'd sound great on a Flea or a Fluke.

joakiml
07-24-2018, 09:24 AM
I received two sets from Mimmo (thanks a lot!), one for tenor and one set for soprano, which I now have tested for a bit.

I agree with Spicysteve that these strings produces both warmth and bright clarity. I also found them making the ukulele loader and with more sustain, as well as a less variation of tone/loudness on where you strum/pick on the strings (lengthwise). I also found that the feel appeals to me and I have not experienced any squeaking as been reported by the Sugar strings.

For now, these are the best strings I have ever tried, and I prefer them over the current Aquila Red as well the Sugar strings (which is also very good).

Thanks a lot Mimmo and I hope you will take these to production!!!

Cheers,
Joakim

mimmo
07-24-2018, 07:28 PM
Thanks guys,
I think it is time to introduce this improvement on the red series strings.
I will distinguish this model for a sign like this one: # I will add into the small white label that is on the envelope.
I am very happy: all positive rensponse even on classical guitar, cuatro, timple canario and cavaquinho. I will do soon the same job for the 5 string banjo.
mimmo

Ziret
07-25-2018, 04:07 AM
Thanks guys,
I think it is time to introduce this improvement on the red series strings.
I will distinguish this model for a sign like this one: # I will add into the small white label that is on the envelope.
I am very happy: all positive rensponse even on classical guitar, cuatro, timple canario and cavaquinho. I will do soon the same job for the 5 string banjo.
mimmo

Hurrah! These are your best strings yet. I'll be buying them.

mineymole
07-25-2018, 04:24 AM
Thanks guys,
I think it is time to introduce this improvement on the red series strings.
I will distinguish this model for a sign like this one: # I will add into the small white label that is on the envelope.
I am very happy: all positive rensponse even on classical guitar, cuatro, timple canario and cavaquinho. I will do soon the same job for the 5 string banjo.
mimmo

Where can we find them?

mimmo
07-25-2018, 04:43 AM
were to find them? this is the real problem.
distributors are very slow.I will do the job begginning next week. I will inform all the bigger USA and EU distributors about this upgraded version of the red series.
in the meantime please go on our on line store.
Mimmo

Spicysteve
07-25-2018, 06:03 AM
I am excited!!!! I will be placing an order for multiple sets.

Thanks again Mimmo for all you do in the world of strings and the Ukulele community.

mineymole
07-25-2018, 06:37 AM
were to find them? this is the real problem.
distributors are very slow.I will do the job begginning next week. I will inform all the bigger USA and EU distributors about this upgraded version of the red series.
in the meantime please go on our on line store.
Mimmo

Thank you!

mineymole
07-30-2018, 02:46 PM
were to find them? this is the real problem.
distributors are very slow.I will do the job begginning next week. I will inform all the bigger USA and EU distributors about this upgraded version of the red series.
in the meantime please go on our on line store.
Mimmo

I can’t figure out where to order them on your online store.

mimmo
07-30-2018, 08:14 PM
here is Mineymole:
https://aquilacorde.com/en/shop/modern-instrument-string-sets/ukulele-banjouke-en/red-series/

Choirguy
07-31-2018, 01:40 AM
Is there going to be a new line of sugar red strings, or is the red series being replaced with the sugar red combination?

hammer40
07-31-2018, 03:38 AM
Mimmo...I wanted to order a set or two, but the only shipping option I can see is express at $20. I will have to wait until your distributors carry them. Also, how do we tell them apart? Now, they are just listed under “red” but the package is the same. If the packaging or name isn’t changed, I know there is going to be a mix up at different online sites and we will get the previous version not the sugar red.

Sabantien
02-09-2019, 09:14 PM
I've got carbon blacks I put on my uke a bit over a year ago, so probably due a change (although still sounds pretty good to me)

I loved the original reds on my old uke, so definitely keen to get my hands on these new reds.
I considered ordering direct from the website, but i'm not going to pay $70 for strings.

An Australian store does say they have the new red strings, but what I don't know is if they mean the old new reds or the new new reds.
Mind you, they still list the carbon blacks too, so maybe I should stock up on a few different types. :D

captain-janeway
02-10-2019, 07:45 AM
I may have missed it, but is there a model number on these strings? I just got a set of AQ-83. Are they the same string? I actually put them on my handmade banjo uke, and really like the sound.

115490

I have a set of red on the concert Kala I bought from someone, but not sure of the string model. Really like them, but always willing to try another.

M3Ukulele
02-10-2019, 07:47 AM
Mimmo, I think it would be helpful to post picture of new Sugar Red packaging. I believe most guitar type stores won’t know difference so like posted said above they may have new to them Red but not necessarily the new Sugar Reds. It’s 2019 and I’m wanting to try both Sugars and the Sugar Reds. The later being you improved formula. I use Strings by Mail in USA as guitar stores near me are useless when it comes to ukulele string. They have some Red but probably old. Don’t know about sugars. If you have a sleeve you can post and advise if big USA on line stores have them now. Sorry I’m in Canada, not in major centre. I want to support these new strings.

mimmo
02-10-2019, 08:41 PM
This post was done in July 2018 and now we are in Febrary 2019; 8 months ago. The envelope is the same. After all this time I think that the distributors should all have automatically the upgraded sugar version. Not posible to distinguish the difference of the strings by eyes. They looks exactly the same. On the envelope there is a white sticker: see the date. If the date is from August 2018 they are surely based on sugar polymer.
mimmo

Sabantien
02-10-2019, 08:47 PM
Thanks for the clarification, Mimmo! I also got the dates confused, the day/month are backwards, plus I still feel like it's 2018. :D

I can only order online (it's a full day's drive to the nearest instrument store), so can't check it out first. But at least I'll know what it is when I get it.

M3Ukulele
02-11-2019, 11:29 AM
Thank you Mimmo. I will check local guitars store myself for date and failing that check the Strings by Mail. You are only making the new version and that is what is shown on you site? That’s what I’m taking from the reply. That , and by now most dealer and distributor stock should be the new versions. Thank you for reply

Demick
02-11-2019, 06:34 PM
This post was done in July 2018 and now we are in Febrary 2019; 8 months ago. The envelope is the same. After all this time I think that the distributors should all have automatically the upgraded sugar version. Not posible to distinguish the difference of the strings by eyes. They looks exactly the same. On the envelope there is a white sticker: see the date. If the date is from August 2018 they are surely based on sugar polymer.
mimmo

Just received several sets of high and low G tenor Reds from Strings by Mail. Dated 6/18. So no, even distributors who sell lots of strings may still have inventory of old ones.