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JTC111
07-04-2018, 09:46 AM
I'm a long time guitar player and I think I want to pick up a tenor uke. I know from experience that guitar prices are often negotiable and I'm wondering if it's the same with ukes. If it makes any difference, I'll probably buy through The Ukulele site.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Doug W
07-04-2018, 10:20 AM
I have never tried it online but I suppose it won't hurt to try. A friend of mine, after returning to the states from Bolivia, bartered with the folks at Target for some item and they lowered the price.

joakiml
07-04-2018, 10:35 AM
I'm a long time guitar player and I think I want to pick up a tenor uke. I know from experience that guitar prices are often negotiable and I'm wondering if it's the same with ukes.

I would assume that it might depend on the individual instrument and the shop, if it is a piece that's been at store/site for a long time it might be easier.

Doesn't hurt to try ;)

kohanmike
07-04-2018, 12:24 PM
I tend to pay the asking price unless a listing specifically says make an offer or such, which I've done successfully. I once heard Jerry Lewis say that he always pays retail so that he doesn't feel guilty when he has to go back for problem.

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JTC111
07-04-2018, 12:34 PM
I tend to pay the asking price unless a listing specifically says make an offer or such...

Maybe it's different in the guitar world. For example, over at Sweetwater they're asking $2459 for a Martin D18 but there are a number of dealers who will sell it to you for around $1860. The formula isn't the same for every make, but you can generally expect to buy a quality guitar for less than the marked price.

hendulele
07-04-2018, 03:27 PM
It may be easier to negotiate the used market. The independent uke dealers here typically do a lot of setup work in advance, so you’re paying for their TLC. Many ukes out of the box need work to get the intonation and frets right, unless they’re st the high end of the scale. A good set up is worth the money, unless you’re competent enough to do the work yourself.


Maybe it's different in the guitar world. For example, over at Sweetwater they're asking $2459 for a Martin D18 but there are a number of dealers who will sell it to you for around $1860. The formula isn't the same for every make, but you can generally expect to buy a quality guitar for less than the marked price.

JTC111
07-04-2018, 04:12 PM
A good set up is worth the money...
You don't have to sell me on a good set up. I've been an acoustic guitar player for 45 years and that's a lesson I learned a long time ago. Judging by what I've read here and elsewhere, HMS/The Ukulele Site does a good job on that front and that's why I'm leaning towards buying from them, although I'm sure there are other fine dealers out there the provide quality service.

DownUpDave
07-04-2018, 04:25 PM
You don't have to sell me on a good set up. I've been an acoustic guitar player for 45 years and that's a lesson I learned a long time ago. Judging by what I've read here and elsewhere, HMS/The Ukulele Site does a good job on that front and that's why I'm leaning towards buying from them, although I'm sure there are other fine dealers out there the provide quality service.

The two other that are highly regarded here are Uke Republic and Mims Ukes. Both are uke specialists and include great set ups as well.

JTC111
07-04-2018, 05:08 PM
The two other that are highly regarded here are Uke Republic and Mims Ukes. Both are uke specialists and include great set ups as well.

Thank you. That's good information to have.
The attached picture is most of my instruments. I'm not sure how I went so long without owning a uke.
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RafterGirl
07-04-2018, 06:04 PM
The only ukulele I negotiated the price on was one I bought on Reverb. It was used, but listed in mint condition. The seller was a smaller guitar shop. I offered $125 less than the listed asking price & it was accepted. The uke was indeed mint (like brand new) and I paid $220 less than if I had bought new, direct from the builder. I suppose since Mim sells through Reverb, you could make her an offer?

Joyful Uke
07-04-2018, 06:15 PM
I mostly have paid the asking price, but did get a price break from one seller who has just been mentioned. In that situation, the ukulele hadn't sold for a while, (I think over a year), so it was a good deal for both of us to negotiate on price.

I did sell one here for less than my asking price, and I suspect that others have been willing to negotiate in the UU marketplace.

It can't hurt to see if someone is open to adjusting a price, but depending on the ukulele & the demand for it, the seller may not have any reason to negotiate.

Croaky Keith
07-04-2018, 10:28 PM
The only way a store stays in business is to make a profit, without stores, (brick & mortar or internet), there aren't any goods available to Joe Public.

Search for a good price, then ask if they can match it, most can & will to obtain the sale.

(Personally, I usually find a price I'm OK with & just buy it.)

DownUpDave
07-04-2018, 11:51 PM
Thank you. That's good information to have.
The attached picture is most of my instruments. I'm not sure how I went so long without owning a uke.
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That is an awesome picture, I love the background, wonderful collection. If you think guitars multiple on their own watch out..........ukes are like rabbits.

Junie Moon
07-05-2018, 01:38 AM
The only way a store stays in business is to make a profit, without stores, (brick & mortar or internet), there aren't any goods available to Joe Public.

Search for a good price, then ask if they can match it, most can & will to obtain the sale.

(Personally, I usually find a price I'm OK with & just buy it.)

I agree w/Croaky Keith when it comes to the smaller operations. These well-known uke dealers are trying to make a decent living. They provide us with great instruments at fair prices that include excellent service. Personally, it feels disrespectful to ask them for a better price on a new instrument. I like the idea of supporting them by paying their asking prices.

Rllink
07-05-2018, 03:52 AM
I wonder if stores would start jacking the prices of stuff so that they had some dicker room on them. I don't know if that is how it is with used instruments, but that's how we do it with old motorcycles and cars when we sell them.

RichM
07-05-2018, 04:01 AM
I've sold quite a number of instruments over the years (I'm not a dealer, I just have a problem :)). I'm never bothered by an offer; an offer is the beginning of a negotiation, and a negotiation is the beginning of a sale. You can't sell something if you're not talking. I've also found that no matter how much you list something for, someone will always ask you to sell it for less :). I could list a Kamaka here for $10 and I guarantee you someone would message me and say "Could you take $5?"

Junie Moon
07-05-2018, 04:10 AM
"I could list a Kamaka here for $10 and I guarantee you someone would message me and say "Could you take $5?"

That is hysterical, Rich, and very true.

JTC111
07-05-2018, 04:57 AM
I could list a Kamaka here for $10 and I guarantee you someone would message me and say "Could you take $5?"

I'll give you $20.

70sSanO
07-05-2018, 06:33 AM
Thank you. That's good information to have.
The attached picture is most of my instruments. I'm not sure how I went so long without owning a uke.
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That's quite a cache you have there. A cursory review of the headstocks indicates that you might be looking at a higher quality ukulele. To just throw out a name, such as Collings. They no longer make ukuleles, but excellent examples can be found used. And they have good resale.

This does relate to your price question. Unlike your D-18 example, where you are able to go to a local Guitar Center and find that Martin or Taylor, you may be hard pressed to find multiple offerings a particular ukulele, even online. Harder to find in demand instruments command a premium, you will get a better deal on ukuleles that are more readily available, but the used market will give you the best value.

John

JTC111
07-05-2018, 07:44 AM
That's quite a cache you have there. A cursory review of the headstocks indicates that you might be looking at a higher quality ukulele.

Thanks John. I've been going back and forth on what to buy. I was thinking about maybe getting a Kanile'a K-1 T tenor. I think tenor is what I want but I don't have enough experience to really know that. I'm also not sure about what nut width. On guitars, I prefer a wider nut ...1 13/16 is the most comfortable for me. So now I'm thinking maybe I should buy something less expensive as a kind of test run. The Kala KA-ZCT-T seems like it might be a good choice for initially dipping my toe in the water.

Joyful Uke
07-05-2018, 08:07 AM
If the Kanilea nut width appeals to you, you might look into the Islander ukuleles, which is made by Kanilea, but is their entry level version.

70sSanO
07-05-2018, 08:13 AM
Thanks John. I've been going back and forth on what to buy. I was thinking about maybe getting a Kanile'a K-1 T tenor. I think tenor is what I want but I don't have enough experience to really know that. I'm also not sure about what nut width. On guitars, I prefer a wider nut ...1 13/16 is the most comfortable for me. So now I'm thinking maybe I should buy something less expensive as a kind of test run. The Kala KA-ZCT-T seems like it might be a good choice for initially dipping my toe in the water.

The rule is pretty much the same as it is with guitars... buy the best you can easily afford. My first ukulele was a KoAloha soprano. I was coming from a guitar background. Only mistake was the size not the quality. The Kanilea would be a good choice as it has a 1.5" nut. Neck profile, tone, etc. is personal and that is up to what you like. I imagine you have seen the Ukulele Site videos.

John

JTC111
07-05-2018, 09:54 AM
I imagine you have seen the Ukulele Site videos.

More times than I can count. I've been toying with this idea for a while and having retired less than two weeks ago, I have time to do more things. Uke being one of them.

lfoo6952
07-06-2018, 02:39 PM
JTC111:

You indicated a preference for the Kala KA-ZTC-T and wide nuts. Kala's in general have shorter nut widths than other brands. This model has a nut width of 1.39". Try exploring other brands that have wider nut widths. My first ukulele was a Kala. At that time, I didn't know any better. As I gained more experience and played other brands, I found that I much preferred a wider nut.

JTC111
07-06-2018, 04:25 PM
JTC111:

You indicated a preference for the Kala KA-ZTC-T and wide nuts. Kala's in general have shorter nut widths than other brands. This model has a nut width of 1.39". Try exploring other brands that have wider nut widths. My first ukulele was a Kala. At that time, I didn't know any better. As I gained more experience and played other brands, I found that I much preferred a wider nut.

Are there any brands in particular that have more ukes with wide nuts?

70sSanO
07-06-2018, 06:36 PM
This might help...

http://ukenut.com/comparison-of-ukulele-nut-widths/

John

DownUpDave
07-07-2018, 12:30 AM
This might help...

http://ukenut.com/comparison-of-ukulele-nut-widths/

John

That is a great listing of nut widths, thanks John.

Although Koaloha are listed as 1-1/2" they feel and play more like 1-3/8". Their nut width is closer to 1-7/16" and the outside strings are in from the neck edge more than some. I have owned a few and although I don't like 1-1/2" I find Koaloha easy to play. Just some feedback for your consideration.

RafterGirl
07-07-2018, 03:45 AM
KoAloha are 1 7/16
Kanilea are 1.5
Islander, which is Kanilea's import line are also 1.5. I own an Islander acacia laminate and can highly recommend it. Uke Republic carries Islander.

Rllink
07-07-2018, 04:34 AM
That is a great listing of nut widths, thanks John.

Although Koaloha are listed as 1-1/2" they feel and play more like 1-3/8". Their nut width is closer to 1-7/16" and the outside strings are in from the neck edge more than some. I have owned a few and although I don't like 1-1/2" I find Koaloha easy to play. Just some feedback for your consideration.I was going to bring that up as well. I went out with my little tape measure for a while when I was looking for a soprano and I was finding that some ukuleles with 1 1/2" necks had an actual string width pretty close to those with 1 3/8" necks. It seemed that there was no standard among the few 1 1/2" necks that I was able to get my hands on to measure. When I was doing my research though, I felt like the wider necks were harder to play for me, not easier.

JTC111
07-07-2018, 10:05 AM
Also if you have a uke you can play, you can be patient and wait for a good deal and/or find a nice used uke which can be a lot cheaper than buying new. When you are buying used, you can definitely bargain for used ukes.

I have plenty of guitars and such to keep me occupied. But that's good advice about the used market. I'm going to keep an eye out for a used wide neck koa tenor. If one I like pops up at a good price, I'll grab it. If not, when my first pension check comes in at the end of the month, I'll splurge on a new one.

edisoned
07-07-2018, 10:46 AM
Hi, I've got a couple of Mike Pereira custom tenors for sale. These are part of an estate of a friend who passed a couple of years ago and left behind a large collection of stringed, instruments. Mostly guitars but some ukes and mandolins as well. I've sold 6 or 7 to guys on this site so far. The tenors are $1,000 and $1400 plus shipping. Feel free to send me an email and I can send you photos and details. If you're not familiar with Mike Pereira Ukes, check out his website, great builder.
Ed

JTC111
07-07-2018, 11:46 AM
Hi, I've got a couple of Mike Pereira custom tenors for sale. These are part of an estate of a friend who passed a couple of years ago and left behind a large collection of stringed, instruments. Mostly guitars but some ukes and mandolins as well. I've sold 6 or 7 to guys on this site so far. The tenors are $1,000 and $1400 plus shipping. Feel free to send me an email and I can send you photos and details. If you're not familiar with Mike Pereira Ukes, check out his website, great builder.
Ed

Thanks Ed. PM sent.
BTW, Mike's website looks to be gone. The www.mpukuleles.com address is now a sneaker store.