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Timbuck
07-22-2018, 10:22 PM
TAS has got hold of me again.....Having upgraded my band saw I'm now contemplating replacing my jet 10-20 in favour of the latest Axminster supplied Jet JWDS 16-32 ..it's a bit pricey butI don't want to be the richest man in the graveyard..and it's got lots of new features that I like such as it monitors the work load and automatically adjust the speeds and feeds to suit....and best of all Mrs T is all for it.
see it in action here https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=95&v=XlLetShGDUI
This one is now up for sale on a well known auction site.
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sequoia
07-23-2018, 07:41 AM
If Mrs T gives the greenlight I say go for it. You also have my permission to spend oodles of money. ;)

PereBourik
07-23-2018, 08:03 AM
+1



When the wife allows it strike quickly before the moment passes. Lose not a minute! Time and tide wait for no man!

Pete Howlett
07-23-2018, 12:12 PM
Mine goes up for sale after yours has sold Ken. I've had enough it and have a furniture project that requires the capacity of that machine....

boydellinii
07-23-2018, 07:07 PM
Mine goes up for sale after yours has sold Ken. I've had enough it and have a furniture project that requires the capacity of that machine....

Doh ! ... bought Kens before I saw this. Yours would have been easier for me to collect Pete ..

Ken Franklin
07-23-2018, 08:45 PM
Looks like some improvements over the old Jet 16-32 I have. I suppose they had to do something after the Supermax came out here in the States. Wonder if they'll still have issues with wear on the height adjusting system. The sand smart function hasn't been so great IMO. I always run it at full bore with light passes. Otherwise the papers load up on oily woods. Probably not a problem with mahogany. I've heard of some using Abranet which would cut down on the loading. Haven't tried it yet. I think you have to cut the rolls.

Timbuck
07-24-2018, 08:09 AM
It's arrived :smileybounce: I spent today unpacking and setting up this new one..and also at the same time crated up the old one waiting the courier from Boydellinii.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/923/42898628734_230d91e280_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/28mNFKU)PICT0006 (https://flic.kr/p/28mNFKU) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

resoman
07-24-2018, 10:23 AM
The controls and dust collector are quite a bit different looking than my 16-32. The only thing I don't like about mine is the conveyor. I'll replace that when I find a good replacement.
Congratulations!!
:cheers:

Pete Howlett
07-24-2018, 11:01 AM
Mine arrives tomorrow but doubt I'll have time to unpack it until next week!

Timbuck
07-24-2018, 08:36 PM
Mine arrives tomorrow but doubt I'll have time to unpack it until next week!

The stand is the tricky part Pete..It's easy to to put it together wrong ..Read the instructions first, not last like I did.:uhoh:
And getting the main bit out of the box is a bit of a chew make sure you have some help.
Next job is i'm fitting castors so I can move it about co's i don't have a lot of space.

Pete Howlett
07-24-2018, 10:28 PM
Mine will be on a castor base also. CNC is working better now i have had it modified ken. I understand it also because I have to y axis facing me :)

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mikeyb2
07-25-2018, 12:10 AM
Well Ken, you've started something here. It was an offer too good to miss, so looks like there will be another 10-20 plus going on the auction site.
Please don't post anymore pictures of your new machines, I can't afford it!
Cheers Mike.

Pete Howlett
07-25-2018, 09:17 AM
I have one to sell. It seems daft both of us posting Mikey2. When do you intend to list yours? Thanks for the tip about the stand Ken...

mikeyb2
07-25-2018, 10:52 AM
I have one to sell. It seems daft both of us posting Mikey2. When do you intend to list yours? Thanks for the tip about the stand Ken...

Hi Pete, you were first. Just let me know when yours has gone. Message me on your FB page if you want(Mike Bradley). Cheers Mike.

Kevs-the-name
07-25-2018, 11:33 AM
Watching with interest

JJohansen
07-25-2018, 08:01 PM
Hi all,

I've recently switched over to running abranet ceramic mesh strips rather than the standard cloth and can not recommended them highly enough. These new strips have improved and speeded up my sanding by about 50%. I send hundreds of meters of material though a drum sander every month, so this really makes a huge difference to me. I've not burned a strip yet, even when mistakenly running a 240 strip rather than an 80. I'm most impressed with the p240, as I can creep up on my near final thickness rather quickly without worrying about deep scratches or burning the paper.

From what I understand, the ceramic mesh is a new version. For the UK folks, I get mine from Southern Filters in Axminster.

Josh

Ken Franklin
07-25-2018, 08:44 PM
Hi all,

I've recently switched over to running abranet ceramic mesh strips rather than the standard cloth and can not recommended them highly enough. These new strips have improved and speeded up my sanding by about 50%. I send hundreds of meters of material though a drum sander every month, so this really makes a huge difference to me. I've not burned a strip yet, even when mistakenly running a 240 strip rather than an 80. I'm most impressed with the p240, as I can creep up on my near final thickness rather quickly without worrying about deep scratches or burning the paper.

From what I understand, the ceramic mesh is a new version. For the UK folks, I get mine from Southern Filters in Axminster.

Josh

Josh, have you needed to cut the width of the Abranet down to match the width of the Jet paper?

Timbuck
07-26-2018, 03:30 AM
Hi all,

I've recently switched over to running abranet ceramic mesh strips rather than the standard cloth and can not recommended them highly enough. These new strips have improved and speeded up my sanding by about 50%. I send hundreds of meters of material though a drum sander every month, so this really makes a huge difference to me. I've not burned a strip yet, even when mistakenly running a 240 strip rather than an 80. I'm most impressed with the p240, as I can creep up on my near final thickness rather quickly without worrying about deep scratches or burning the paper.

From what I understand, the ceramic mesh is a new version. For the UK folks, I get mine from Southern Filters in Axminster.

Josh

I just looked it up on the Axminster site and found this.

Not suitable for use with a drum sander
This is an interesting new abrasive, and I think it certainly has great potential. However, I bought it specifically to use on the Jet 16-32 drum sander, and found that it is simply not suitable.
What's new about this abrasive is it's open mesh that allows dust to pass through the sheet. This is potentially a fantastic quality, but used on a drum sander, not so. The meshed nature of the sheet makes it very flexible and elastic, which again is potentially a good thing, but what it means on a drum sander is no matter how tightly it is wound onto the drum it will stretch when a working load is applied - even when used carefully. The stretching creates slackness, which causes the windings on the drum to overlap each other, ultimately leading to disintegration.
Another problem is the abrasive's impressive ability to allow the wood dust to pass through its mesh, great for an orbital sander perhaps, but on a drum sander it leaves the drum itself coated with a thick layer of sticky dust and resin, even working with hardwoods.

Timbuck
07-26-2018, 04:21 AM
Further to the above..It appears that the user was not using a suitable dust extractor unit . and you do have re-tension the strip a few times at first
due to stretching...a bit like Aquila strings :)

mikeyb2
07-26-2018, 05:02 AM
Further to the above..It appears that the user was not using a suitable dust extractor unit . and you do have re-tension the strip a few times at first
due to stretching...a bit like Aquila strings :)

Ken, I think Josh was talking about Abranet Ace which is a newer product with ceramic particles and stronger backing. Axminster don't appear to stock it, but the company Josh quotes does.
Mike

Pete Howlett
07-26-2018, 05:09 AM
Do you have a reference number? I can't identify it....

mikeyb2
07-26-2018, 05:21 AM
Do you have a reference number? I can't identify it....

If you mean for the Abranet Ace Pete, then it's Product Code: AC5BI001803R at Southern Filters.

mikeyb2
07-26-2018, 05:24 AM
Do you have a reference number? I can't identify it....

Pete, I've just sent you a link on your FB page.

Timbuck
07-26-2018, 06:53 AM
Further info on the castors...Axminster heavy duty castors set of 4 with brakes = 104.40 The set of 4 two fitted with brakes heavy duty castors I got from Ebay =13.07 (4 X M8 nuts and washers not supplied..but I had some in stock)
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=163022696402&view=all&tid=1735162169006

mikeyb2
07-26-2018, 09:03 AM
Further info on the castors...Axminster heavy duty castors set of 4 with brakes = 104.40 The set of 4 two fitted with brakes heavy duty castors I got from Ebay =13.07 (4 X M8 nuts and washers not supplied..but I had some in stock)
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=163022696402&view=all&tid=1735162169006

Link not working Ken.

Pete Howlett
07-26-2018, 09:33 AM
Got my castors from screw fix. Will get Boris the CNC top make mounting plates tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up on instructions for putting base together Ken.

Timbuck
07-26-2018, 10:41 AM
Link not working Ken. works for me ?.

mikeyb2
07-26-2018, 11:40 AM
works for me ?.

Tried again, just says "page not responding". No idea why.

mikeyb2
07-26-2018, 11:54 AM
Mine arrived today. Managed to assemble the stand and attach the sander to it, with help from my friend. It's very heavy! It was not the sort of day to be doing this, so I'll leave the setting up til tomorrow. Everything seems fine, but just a little disappointed that it only came with one sandpaper loading already attached. The 10-20 came with a box of loadings of different grits.
I'll power up tomorrow and see what happens.

Pete Howlett
07-26-2018, 08:00 PM
Looks like you need to get your 10 - 20 on eBay mike. Let me know when you auction ends. Mine will be at 250 BIN if that is any help - it needs a new belt and some TLC plus the belt guides are missing. This will be my 2nd 10 - 20. Should have bought a 16 - 32

mikeyb2
07-26-2018, 10:08 PM
Looks like you need to get your 10 - 20 on eBay mike. Let me know when you auction ends. Mine will be at 250 BIN if that is any help - it needs a new belt and some TLC plus the belt guides are missing. This will be my 2nd 10 - 20. Should have bought a 16 - 32

I'll list mine next weekend Pete, otherwise I'll be away when it ends if I list it now. Cheers Mike.

boydellinii
07-27-2018, 10:02 AM
My workshop is now complete :) ...
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Pete Howlett
07-27-2018, 11:42 AM
Told now mike...

mikeyb2
07-27-2018, 12:44 PM
Told now mike...

I think I know what you mean, thanks Pete.

Pete Howlett
07-28-2018, 06:32 AM
How do you get the fixing holes to line up for the stand on the 16 - 32. Do you have to 'squeeze' the leg stand??

Timbuck
07-28-2018, 07:18 AM
How do you get the fixing holes to line up for the stand on the 16 - 32. Do you have to 'squeeze' the leg stand?? I got that wrong first go Pete :(
The legs go on the outside of the corners as per this pic 110797

Not on the inside as in this pic. (note) one end right other end wrong
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When it's assembled right all the holes line up dead on thanks to CNC hole punch machine.

Pete Howlett
07-28-2018, 07:50 AM
I'm sure I followed the instructions. Oh well. At least I made a nice set of plates for my Screwfix castors.

mikeyb2
07-28-2018, 09:03 AM
I guess I must have been lucky, the holes lined up but it still was a bit fiddly. Put the castors on today (Toolstation 24 incl M10 bolts and washers).