Would like opinions of the advantages and disadvantages of Planetary tuners and Geared tuners. Having a hard time deciding. I am leaning toward geared since I am used to them.
Planetary tuners are geared tuners. It's just that the gears are hidden. Most often, the planetary tuners (e.g. Gotoh UPT and Pegheds) have a lower gear ratio (4:1) compared to "normal" geared tuners (14:1). This means you can theoretically tune more precisely with normal gears but in practice, the 4:1 ratio gives you plenty of control and is way better than 1:1 friction tuners. The planetary are usually installed facing rearward if you like that look.
The only real disadvantage of planetary in my opinion is the cost, but I have to say that Gotoh UPT are my favorite tuners bar none.
Great minds think alike! For people who don't understand the planetary gear system, here's a peek inside (these are Keith banjo tuners, but the idea is the same):
You can see how the three "planet" gears rotate around the "sun" gear-- hence the name planetary tuners.
Planetary tuners are geared tuners. It's just that the gears are hidden. Most often, the planetary tuners (e.g. Gotoh UPT and Pegheds) have a lower gear ratio (4:1) compared to "normal" geared tuners (14:1). This means you can theoretically tune more precisely with normal gears but in practice, the 4:1 ratio gives you plenty of control and is way better than 1:1 friction tuners. The planetary are usually installed facing rearward if you like that look.
The only real disadvantage of planetary in my opinion is the cost, but I have to say that Gotoh UPT are my favorite tuners bar none.
Great minds think alike! For people who don't understand the planetary gear system, here's a peek inside (these are Keith banjo tuners, but the idea is the same):
You can see how the three "planet" gears rotate around the "sun" gear-- hence the name planetary tuners.
In all of my custom builds I have favoured planetary tuners basically for the ‘Pro’ comments made above. But, I asked for Rubner geared machines(15:1) for my recent Beau Hannam Tenor and will be using them again on my Barron River that is currently in build. A bit expensive when compared to standard geared tuners but not that much more than Gotoh UTP’s or Pegheads. I have come to like the extremely smooth and accurate mechanism and, as I am now favouring thick gauge high tension strings, I thought the extra holding power of the higher gear ratio would be better( this perception could be totally wacko).
Did anyone mention Peghed tuners? They were my introduction to planetary. They're expensive (about $75), and they're a bit too long and thin for my liking. It looks like they're daring someone to break them.
While I am most in favor of planetary tuners I do want to shout out for the Rubner geared tuners. They are quite amazing and their price varies. The vendor in the US is happy to supply post lengths to fit. I prefer these on slot head instruments and much depends upon the spacing between the posts as to whether these will fit. The next alternative is individual tuning machines. Of these I find the Grovers the most accessible if not a tad ugly - BUT I like the look of the Grovers used by Mele and available from them for retrofitting.
When retrofitting with planetaries the biggest issue is the thickness of the headstock. The Gotoh upt and uptl will fit most BUT some instruments are just too thick in the headstock. One then has to look to banjo tuners which are both heavier and rather larger. Gotoh are for many of us the best and most accessible but I have used a variety of brands on my banjos and have just fitted a set of Five Star on an old Maybell banjo uke. There are some wonderful pre WW2 replicas made in the Czech Republic that are not light and precise but with a wider body the the Five Star or Gotoh. IMHO the upt tuners are the best and I have retrofitted a few to my instruments. Meanwhile my Kamaka tenor still has its original Schaller tuners and I am not about to change those.
So much choice - SIGH!
That is an excellent solution and nicely done. Thanks for sharing.I have been fitting Gotoh planetary tuners to my Southern Cross Banjo Ukes for quite a while. Due to a recent increase of shipping costs I bought a set "clones" from Pete Howlett they are identical in every way but cheaper. They had standard length posts which where a bit short for my headstocks which tend to be a bit thicker than Ukes so I simply recessed the rear of the headstock with a Forstner bit and they fitted absolutely perfectly. Very happy with the result See here
https://forum.ukuleleunderground.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=111443&d=1535074519
From my point of view the advantage of planetaty tuners compared to is primarily cosmetical.
So, what look do you like