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uketanzon
02-03-2019, 08:02 AM
another thread made me think.....how I sustain my UAS

1. Basically if you buy high or Brand New and try to sell high and recover your investment, you have a long long wait...maybe forever....

2.If you Buy high sell low......Great for buyer, not so great for seller who takes a beating.

3. If you buy Low (great deal) and sell low ( great deal to someone else)
we all benefit...passing the deal around to uke community to help us all with trying new stuff....( lets face it, most UAS aquistions do not stay forever in the uke stable, sooner or later, we kick them out to make room for a new member, ha):

I am a bargain hunter, not ashamed of that... but if I get a great deal...I should offer a great deal to someone else on the forum when its time to move it out ......so if I buy a great uke for $300 shipped as an example, I should sell it for $300 shipped.

Croaky Keith
02-03-2019, 08:13 AM
Hmm, I bought all but one of my ukes new, I gave away a few of the cheaper ones that I started out with, but the rest, I don't intend giving away or selling any time soon, probably never. :)

But then again, I have stopped buying them. ;)

bazmaz
02-03-2019, 08:26 AM
If anything I spent years (and succeeded) in quashing UAS. Happy with what I own now and don't need any more.

Each to their own!

uketanzon
02-03-2019, 08:34 AM
If anything I spent years (and succeeded) in quashing UAS. Happy with what I own now and don't need any more.

Each to their own!

Just Curios, Baz, did you buy that Kiwaya Long neck china made soprano you recently reviewed?

Swamp Yankee
02-03-2019, 08:50 AM
If anything I spent years (and succeeded) in quashing UAS. Happy with what I own now and don't need any more.

Each to their own!

Easy to say when uke makers send you their wares to try out. ;)

That's most of UAS for me - a desire to try out ukuleles I can't find in brick and mortar stores in my area. For that reason, I typically buy second hand ukes exclusively. Otherwise I'd lose my shirt trying to sell the ukes that don't work out for me.

spongeuke
02-03-2019, 08:59 AM
See my post on "Gambling"

Croaky Keith
02-03-2019, 11:41 PM
Easy to say when uke makers send you their wares to try out. ;)

I'm pretty sure Baz actually buys most, if not all, the ukes he reviews on his site, (sells them off afterwards, to fund the next ones). :)

Jerryc41
02-04-2019, 02:01 AM
It took me a few years before I thought I should get a better uke than the $25 instrument I bought at an ABC store in Hawaii. : ) That led me to KoAloha. After buy a couple of new ukes, a friend told me about used ukes on UU and Reverb. A whole new world opened up.

I used to look at what ukes were for sale online every day. Now, I'm more concerned with which of mine I should sell. I think bargains are few and far between. Why would someone be willing to sell an expensive ukulele at a low price unless he doesn't realize it's worth a lot? I think an unusually low price indicates ignorance on the part of the seller, although it can be a windfall for the buyer. I sold twenty-two ukes last year, and I aim at getting 70% of the new price I paid. If I bought it used, I try to sell it for that price. All my ukes (54) are in as good condition as when I bought them, and most are like new. A couple I have are old, and they show the signs of years of use, but that's fine with me.

I'm a bargain hunter, too, but ukulele bargains are rare. Basically, I try to avoid over-paying, and I'm willing to wait for a reasonable price. I'm through buying unless something special comes along - like the M-M resonator I bought recently.

Rllink
02-04-2019, 02:33 AM
It depends a lot I suppose on disposable income. For some buying a ukulele is a huge chunk out of the budget that could be used for more important things. For others, they don't have to be worried about coming up with the money to pay the bills. It is all relative.

Swamp Yankee
02-04-2019, 02:53 AM
I'm pretty sure Baz actually buys most, if not all, the ukes he reviews on his site, (sells them off afterwards, to fund the next ones). :)

ooops... well, it's good then that I like the flavor of my own foot ;)

bazmaz
02-04-2019, 03:06 AM
Just Curios, Baz, did you buy that Kiwaya Long neck china made soprano you recently reviewed?

no - it was just on loan

bazmaz
02-04-2019, 03:06 AM
Just Curios, Baz, did you buy that Kiwaya Long neck china made soprano you recently reviewed?

no - it was just on loan

bazmaz
02-04-2019, 03:07 AM
I'm pretty sure Baz actually buys most, if not all, the ukes he reviews on his site, (sells them off afterwards, to fund the next ones). :)

No that's incorrect - the vast majority are loaned to me and get sent back. Some are bought but they are in a very small minority. I have 7 lined up for review in coming weeks - only one was bought by me.

Croaky Keith
02-04-2019, 03:16 AM
Oops :o, sorry for the mis info, (thought I remembered reading it somewhere) - I stand corrected. :)

RafterGirl
02-04-2019, 03:35 AM
In my two years of playing the ukulele, I've gone through about a dozen of them. Primarily new, one very nice used one I got from a member of my local uke group. The nice used one was a gift from my mom. I'm frugal in my life in general, but I do like nice toys (whitewater raft, sea kayak, good camping gear, and ukuleles). My ukes have ranged in price from under $100 to over $1000. I've gifted several to friends who wanted to learn to play & sold several here on UU. I sell for a reasonable price, based on how long I've had the uke & it's condition. Most of the time I've had 4 ukes at once. Right now I'm in downsize mode with my ukuleles & enjoying the ones I have. I've found that having a nice ukulele sitting in my office that I'm not playing a ton bothers me. I'd rather sell to someone who'll enjoy it & play it more. But I'm always on the lookout and all those NAMM videos aren't helping. I do have a little Christmas money tucked away, but nothing specific in mind at the moment.

Lacole
02-04-2019, 05:03 AM
If anything I spent years (and succeeded) in quashing UAS. Happy with what I own now and don't need any more.

Each to their own!

I spent the better part of the last hour reading thru reviews on your page. I was delighted to see that you have reviewed one of the ukuleles I own, and saw another review for a pineapple I would like to get. Their were other reviews on straps etc. that I found useful. Thank you.

bazmaz
02-04-2019, 05:05 AM
Oops :o, sorry for the mis info, (thought I remembered reading it somewhere) - I stand corrected. :)

I try to keep a balance - Recognising that if they were ALL loan instruments, it's naturally in the dealer / brands interest to send me their best example. So I buy a proportion (randomly). Take Kala for example - 75% of those reviewed are loaned, the rest were bought blind from random stores (to randomise the setup quality). Thankfully for Kala, they all score rather well which indicates to me they have good QC at the origin point.

Weirdly, some brands loan me them and they have been terrible! Never fails to amaze me.

But yes - some are bought.

bazmaz
02-04-2019, 05:06 AM
I spent the better part of the last hour reading thru reviews on your page. I was delighted to see that you have reviewed one of the ukuleles I own, and saw another review for a pineapple I would like to get. Their were other reviews on straps etc. that I found useful. Thank you.


My pleasure entirely. Glad they helped

Jerryc41
02-04-2019, 05:33 AM
I spent the better part of the last hour reading thru reviews on your page. I was delighted to see that you have reviewed one of the ukuleles I own...

For me, it has worked just the opposite. I read one of Baz's reviews, and I buy the uke. :)

kerneltime
02-04-2019, 06:44 AM
another thread made me think.....how I sustain my UAS

1. Basically if you buy high or Brand New and try to sell high and recover your investment, you have a long long wait...maybe forever....

2.If you Buy high sell low......Great for buyer, not so great for seller who takes a beating.

3. If you buy Low (great deal) and sell low ( great deal to someone else)
we all benefit...passing the deal around to uke community to help us all with trying new stuff....( lets face it, most UAS aquistions do not stay forever in the uke stable, sooner or later, we kick them out to make room for a new member, ha):

I am a bargain hunter, not ashamed of that... but if I get a great deal...I should offer a great deal to someone else on the forum when its time to move it out ......so if I buy a great uke for $300 shipped as an example, I should sell it for $300 shipped.

I have made and lost money on ukes and have gifted them.. most of these are purely emotional decisions.. if I know the need I adjust.. there is also the fondness for a uke, some ukes that I have have a profitable price tag cause that is the price at which I will be open to selling, then there are others that I just want to hand over to the next person since I don’t have any attachment.. Some one reached out to me for my Moore Bettah and they did not like the price tag..
Also, thank you for the pointer for the Martin 3k.. it is a great instrument!!!

Davoravo
02-04-2019, 10:46 AM
This thread is a revelation to me, I am a very indecisive purchaser because I need to get absolutely the right ukulele at the absolutely right price. I have spent hours. Browsing and checking reviews without buying.

My wife tends to make me lock away anything messy or space occupying, which is one of the reasons I play ukulele and not guitar. I am also quite competitive so I only want one good instrument and maybe a travel instrument so I am optimising my practice and not getting confused by switching. I have already made a mess of my playing spending the last few months switching between C6 and D6 tuning trying to get the absolutely perfect sound. For the record, I now know there is no perfect tuning!

Joe King
02-04-2019, 11:03 AM
Maybe I just got lucky?

7 years ago after trying out dozens of other ukes at retails shops and uke jams (where I had a Lanikai LU21-C loaned to me by friend that I played at the jams) and it was not until I played a concert Flea from The Magic Fluke Company that I was satisfied with an ukulele for all the features I was looking for...so I bought one and never looked back.

Since getting my Flea, I've also tried many other ukes, but none have even tempted me at all.

I am very happy with my Flea, and UAS is not something I've ever felt really.

It seems like UAS is something that afflicts everyone else, but my wallet and I are very happy to not have to worry about it.

Rllink
02-04-2019, 11:48 AM
This thread is a revelation to me, I am a very indecisive purchaser because I need to get absolutely the right ukulele at the absolutely right price. I have spent hours. Browsing and checking reviews without buying.

My wife tends to make me lock away anything messy or space occupying, which is one of the reasons I play ukulele and not guitar. I am also quite competitive so I only want one good instrument and maybe a travel instrument so I am optimising my practice and not getting confused by switching. I have already made a mess of my playing spending the last few months switching between C6 and D6 tuning trying to get the absolutely perfect sound. For the record, I now know there is no perfect tuning!I don't have to lock mine up. But as far as the house, we do not want to live amongst the ukes. I mean, just not my wife, me neither. So none of mine are on display or used as part of our interior décor and there is only so much space dedicated to the ukulele. Anything, not just ukes, gets put away when we are done with it. I really don't know where I would put another one. It would have to go into storage I guess.

jimrex62
02-04-2019, 11:59 AM
Maybe I just got lucky?

7 years ago after trying out dozens of other ukes at retails shops and uke jams (where I had a Lanikai LU21-C loaned to me by friend that I played at the jams) and it was not until I played a concert Flea from The Magic Fluke Company that I was satisfied with an ukulele for all the features I was looking for...so I bought one and never looked back.

Since getting my Flea, I've also tried many other ukes, but none have even tempted me at all.

I am very happy with my Flea, and UAS is not something I've ever felt really.

It seems like UAS is something that afflicts everyone else, but my wallet and I are very happy to not have to worry about it.

I agree with you Joe. With me, it's more of one instrument at a time but not sure what I want until I try something. While I've only been drinking the uke flavored Kool-Aid for a little over two years now, I previously dealt with a bout of MIAS (multiple instrument acquisition syndrome)... that started in 2011 as an attempt to get back into music after years of inactivity. During that time, bought and sold four basses both new and used, and one classical guitar. Still have the last bass that I bought, but don't play it.

During this MIAS, we started trailer camping and I realized that a travel bass wasn't amenable to plinking or occasionally playing songs for captive audiences, so I started researching ukes. Waaay so much info on the internet and specifically on this forum! Anyhow, I'm at a good spot now. I have the two ukes that meet my needs for quiet practice and ruggedized for camping.

Thanks MFC and Outdoor!

mikhou
02-04-2019, 02:54 PM
I can identify with UAS, but I can't compete with it. I only own 2 ukes. My first is a low-end Ohana CK-10 that I bought from Mim. I love that little uke and it still sits beside my desk at work. My second is an Ohana TK-50G, and I agonized over this purchase. Not because I didn't know if I wanted this uke but because I questioned whether or not it was selfish of me to spend money on another uke when there's five of us in our family and we're trying to teach our kids to be responsible with their money. While it was less than 1/2 of a low-end K-brand, it's still an investment of money that could go toward something else. Sure, we have the money, but we're pretty frugal and aren't self-indulgent by any means. I could only every see myself purchasing one more tenor so that I could have a re-entrant tenor and a low-G tenor. After that, if I ever wanted to purchase a different one, I'd have to sell one of the ones that I have first. To my mind, there's no use in having one sitting around that not's going to be used. But it's the same way with my guitar, I have a 20-year old Larrivee D-03. I've been tempted numerous times to pull the trigger on a different guitar, but I haven't found a good reason to do so yet. The only reason right now that I'll ever buy another one is because of a change in tastes. After playing uke for a couple of years, my dreadnought feels HUGE. I'd opt for a smaller-bodied guitar if I could. And if I ever do, I'll probably sell the Larrivee on Reverb or ebay.