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AustinHing
04-07-2019, 05:27 AM
Help guys, Iím having an UAS Attack now. My mind is filled of thoughts on a Kamaka Ohta-san Hb-2D!

The Attack came too soon and it shouldnít. Cos I just bought a shiny new ukulele.

I canít afford a normal Kamaka, let alone an Ohta San.

So, can the good folks here point me a cheaper similar dreadnought or bell shaped ukulele to suppress the thirst? Many thanks!

Croaky Keith
04-07-2019, 07:42 AM
Switch off your computer.............& pick up your uke! :rofl::music:

Joyful Uke
04-07-2019, 07:50 AM
I seem to recall there being a Sonny D bell shaped ukulele that was more affordable than the Ohta San. I can't find it with a quick google, but maybe that will give you something to look up?

This one is no longer for sale, but will give you an idea what the Sonny D Bell ukulele is like:
http://ukulelefriend.com/ukes/sonny-d-bell-longneck-ukulele/

Are you wanting the same size as an Ohta San? There are some sopranos that are bell shaped, (Ohana, for example. Elderly has one listed for $219.) I've never seen one in person, so don't know what they're like.

Bill Sheehan
04-07-2019, 12:16 PM
Doggone it, Joyful !! Now I'm getting a UAS attack too !! (In this case, I'd call it a sense of "Dred"...)

Jim Hanks
04-07-2019, 12:50 PM
Bonanza Pear?
https://www.bonanzaukuleles.com/Default.asp
https://i.imgur.com/Xq74Gvpl.jpg

AustinHing
04-07-2019, 01:57 PM
Switch off your computer.............& pick up your uke! :rofl::music:
I did that, played all my ukes, learnt some new songs but the itch is not going away.


I seem to recall there being a Sonny D bell shaped ukulele that was more affordable than the Ohta San. I can't find it with a quick google, but maybe that will give you something to look up?

This one is no longer for sale, but will give you an idea what the Sonny D Bell ukulele is like:
http://ukulelefriend.com/ukes/sonny-d-bell-longneck-ukulele/

Are you wanting the same size as an Ohta San? There are some sopranos that are bell shaped, (Ohana, for example. Elderly has one listed for $219.) I've never seen one in person, so don't know what they're like.
Thanks for the info. The sonny looks nice but their website is sort of down? Not much info available though, and I think it’s kind of out of my budget.

I would prefer a concert size if possible. The Ohta San scale length is 16 inches, in between tenor and concert. I will check out the ohana definitely.


Bonanza Pear?
https://www.bonanzaukuleles.com/Default.asp
https://i.imgur.com/Xq74Gvpl.jpg

The pear ukulele looks interesting but would kind of prefer a stronger looking lower bout, not sure if i make any senses. Haha.

AustinHing
04-07-2019, 02:12 PM
There are some sopranos that are bell shaped, (Ohana, for example. Elderly has one listed for $219.) I've never seen one in person, so don't know what they're like.

I have found what you are referring to:
https://www.elderly.com/acoustics/ukuleles/ohana-skb-35-bell-shaped-soprano-ukulele.htm

Thanks, joyful! I think I’m looking more towards a dreadnought shape. Though I wondered how it would sound like.

AustinHing
04-07-2019, 02:28 PM
Is it me or actually the kanile’a ukes are same shape as the kamaka Ohta san? I can’t tell the difference between them. Here’s some links.

Kamaka Ohta San
https://www.elderly.com/acoustics/ukuleles/concert-ukuleles/kamaka-hb-2d-ohta-san-model-concert-ukulele-with-case.htm

Kanile’a concert k-1
https://www.elderly.com/acoustics/ukuleles/concert-ukuleles/kanile-a-k-1-concert-deluxe-ukulele-gloss-finish-case.htm

Jim Hanks
04-07-2019, 04:33 PM
Kanilea is "rounder" to my eye.

Joyful Uke
04-07-2019, 05:18 PM
Is it me or actually the kanile’a ukes are same shape as the kamaka Ohta san? I can’t tell the difference between them. Here’s some links.

Kamaka Ohta San
https://www.elderly.com/acoustics/ukuleles/concert-ukuleles/kamaka-hb-2d-ohta-san-model-concert-ukulele-with-case.htm

Kanile’a concert k-1
https://www.elderly.com/acoustics/ukuleles/concert-ukuleles/kanile-a-k-1-concert-deluxe-ukulele-gloss-finish-case.htm

Scale length should be different. The Kanile'a concert would have usual 15" scale length, and Ohta San has a 16" scale length.

Joyful Uke
04-07-2019, 05:35 PM
Ono has a 16" scale ukulele, with a base price of $1,400. Still probably higher priced than you're looking for, but something like $800 less than an Ohta San.

Kenn2018
04-07-2019, 05:49 PM
Try KM Ukuleles. Kevin Mulcock in Wales makes dreadnought-shaped ukuleles. He's a great guy and easy to talk to. Great reputation as well.

km-ukuleles.com

Baz reviewed one of his concert dreadnoughts a while ago and had high praise for it. I have a walnut soprano, that I have in temporary custody, that is excellent! (Though I am not a soprano player, it's fun to take it out and put it through its paces.)

AustinHing
04-07-2019, 06:50 PM
Kanilea is "rounder" to my eye.

I see.. now that you mentioned, it does look rounder now. Thanks for the insight.


Scale length should be different. The Kanile'a concert would have usual 15" scale length, and Ohta San has a 16" scale length.
Oh I meant the contours of the body, not the scale length. Haha.. thanks for the info too.


Ono has a 16" scale ukulele, with a base price of $1,400. Still probably higher priced than you're looking for, but something like $800 less than an Ohta San.
I think that’s also out of my range too, I’m kind of cheap and thought maybe some other mass producers would have a dreadnought model. Guess it’s not that common a body shape after all. Thank you for alternative.


Try KM Ukuleles. Kevin Mulcock in Wales makes dreadnought-shaped ukuleles. He's a great guy and easy to talk to. Great reputation as well.

km-ukuleles.com

Baz reviewed one of his concert dreadnoughts a while ago and had high praise for it. I have a walnut soprano, that I have in temporary custody, that is excellent! (Though I am not a soprano player, it's fun to take it out and put it through its paces.)

I’m glad you got 1 of the KMs. I did went on to check the Baz review. it looked splendid and seems reasonably priced too. Does he ship overseas?

kohanmike
04-07-2019, 08:49 PM
I've been seeing a dreadnaught (cutaway) shaped uke on eBay, but I wonder if you'll think it's good enough. It's a Keith Urban that he advertised a while ago (he wasn't schooled well enough and said it's tuned just like a guitar, NOT).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Keith-Urban-Vintage-Tenor-Ukulele-Complete-Player-Package-W-Extra-Strings-etc/143204113999?hash=item2157a15e4f:g:GoQAAOSwp01cqKS c

This is Michael Kohan in Los Angeles, Beverly West near the Beverly Center
9 tenor cutaway ukes, 5 acoustic bass ukes, 11 solid body bass ukes, 9 mini electric bass guitars (Total: 34)

• Donate to The Ukulele Kids Club, they provide ukuleles to children in hospital music therapy programs. www.theukc.org
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Rakelele
04-07-2019, 09:13 PM
I think Kanilea concert ukes are indeed associated with terms like pear-shaped, dreadnought or Ditson.

Martinlover
04-07-2019, 11:03 PM
WAIT. The Ohta San is worth waiting for.

Martinlover
04-08-2019, 01:02 AM
There was Ohta San on Reverb. Also, a while back a used one came up for sale.

AustinHing
04-08-2019, 01:53 AM
I've been seeing a dreadnaught (cutaway) shaped uke on eBay, but I wonder if you'll think it's good enough. It's a Keith Urban that he advertised a while ago (he wasn't schooled well enough and said it's tuned just like a guitar, NOT).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Keith-Urban-Vintage-Tenor-Ukulele-Complete-Player-Package-W-Extra-Strings-etc/143204113999?hash=item2157a15e4f:g:GoQAAOSwp01cqKS c


Thanks for the link! I do like the shape but it’s a tenor and has a cutaway. I really kind of liking a symmetric shape for the bell, pear or dreadnought.


I think Kanilea concert ukes are indeed associated with terms like pear-shaped, dreadnought or Dotson.
Yea, they does. They are kind of my alternative choice although it’s not as bell like as the Ohta san. But again, I do need to save up, a kanile’a is not cheap either!


WAIT. The Ohta San is worth waiting for.
You kind of read my mind! That nagging feeling of getting the real deal, the ultimate bell uke to lay my hands on.


The Ohta San seems to be out of stock at the Ukulele Site/HMS. Maybe you can't get one at the moment even if you have the US$2395 purchase price.
Looking at the rest of the range at HMS, its hard to find a uke that is not good value for its price range, you could pick which ever one fits your budget and have a good chance of getting a nice uke. Personally I would go for a Kala/Pono if the budget is low and toss a coin between a Kamaka and Kanilea if had a bit more money. If I was close to having the $2395, I would save the rest and wait until the deluxe model comes back into stock.
Does Kamaka sell ukes with little defects for less direct from the factory?

Which is a nice thing that it’s out of stock, for my case. Can’t afford it either. I won’t mind a ding and scratches here at all for an used model. Thanks for your thoughtful suggestion. I do, in fact have a soft spot for a long neck kamaka pineapple, especially now that I just sold my pineapple uke two weeks ago. Missed that bassy voice.


There was Ohta San on Reverb. Also, a while back a used one came up for sale.
Well, I think getting an Ohta san is really what’s in my head. So I’m going set a fund jar at the counter tonight. A buck or two everyday should get me my own Ohta San in about.. say 4 years. :o

Martinlover
04-08-2019, 08:53 PM
WAIT. The Ohta San is worth waiting for.

I don’t think I should really be giving advice. I just know that when I try to substitute I am nagged by a dissatisfaction. Unless I play the ukulele i am lusting after and discover I actually don’t like it, which has happened on more than one occasion.

Here is a concert Ohta San on Reverb:
https://reverb.com/item/11631141-kamaka-hb-2d-concert-bell-ohta-san-2017-gloss-koa

AustinHing
04-09-2019, 02:24 AM
I don’t think I should really be giving advice. I just know that when I try to substitute I am nagged by a dissatisfaction. Unless I play the ukulele i am lusting after and discover I actually don’t like it, which has happened on more than one occasion.

Here is a concert Ohta San on Reverb:
https://reverb.com/item/11631141-kamaka-hb-2d-concert-bell-ohta-san-2017-gloss-koa

You are right on this, at least in my case and thanks for your thoughts. Will definitely leads to more angsts if I went on to get the substitute ukes instead. And likely to fuel more UAS attacks. Meanwhile, I will practice more on my martins and they are amazing too!

By the way, fund jar for Ohta San is up and has 2 bucks already!

Martinlover
04-09-2019, 03:51 AM
You are right on this, at least in my case and thanks for your thoughts. Will definitely leads to more angsts if I went on to get the substitute ukes instead. And likely to fuel more UAS attacks. Meanwhile, I will practice more on my martins and they are amazing too!

By the way, fund jar for Ohta San is up and has 2 bucks already!

Like a hungry ghost, the other ukuleles will never fill you up and they will steal the money from the savings jar.
Unless, you try one some how and find out you don’t really like it as much.

AustinHing
04-09-2019, 05:25 AM
Temptations mostly come from this site, hard not to be when NUD is shared daily. Haha.. need to back off from UU forums.

I have not a chance yet to try an Ohta San but I’m sure it wouldn’t disappoint. Luckily I have tried 1 or 2 Kamaka concert before and the playability is great. Can’t say much on the tone but that’s largely due to stock strings.

My local uke shop did had an Ohta San last year, I will be ready when they do hang another up the wall.

Joyful Uke
04-09-2019, 10:33 AM
By the way, fund jar for Ohta San is up and has 2 bucks already!

While you're waiting for the jar to fill up, (that's going to be a big jar!), you have to consider the question of whether you want an all koa Ohta San, or one with a cedar top, or a spruce top.
So many temptations. :-)

AustinHing
04-09-2019, 02:37 PM
While you're waiting for the jar to fill up, (that's going to be a big jar!), you have to consider the question of whether you want an all koa Ohta San, or one with a cedar top, or a spruce top.
So many temptations. :-)

The question should be “should one get all 3 types of Ohta san?” Haha, truly tempting but there is the reality again.

The spruce is definitely out as it may sound too guitarish for me. So, having own both solid koa and cedar ukes, I have not tonal preference between them. Look-wise, the curly koa wins hands down.

Again, Ohta San showing up is not a everyday thing. So I would grab one (cedar or koa) when the opportunity comes!

Slade
04-09-2019, 04:10 PM
Never really liked Kamakas. Owned one, played many but never a Ohta San. Iím getting a Iíiwi made for me right now. They have a dreadnought shape and sound beautiful. Theyíre pricey but so is a quality Kamaka. Save, save, save.

AustinHing
04-09-2019, 06:50 PM
Never really liked Kamakas. Owned one, played many but never a Ohta San. I’m getting a I’iwi made for me right now. They have a dreadnought shape and sound beautiful. They’re pricey but so is a quality Kamaka. Save, save, save.

Congrats on your customised i’iwi. Went to the ukulele site and they are gorgeous! Beautiful dreadnought. So what’s up with the multiple small sound holes? I prefer their traditional model. Saw their prices and inhaled deeply. Haha. Just curious, would you mind to share on your experiences with the kamakas?

Martinlover
04-09-2019, 08:40 PM
I’m getting a I’iwi made for me right now.

They sound great but the multiple sound holes remind me of a spider.

AustinHing
04-14-2019, 01:04 AM
There is used i’iwi concert for sale around my area. Been staring hard at it, it’s gorgeous with all full curly koa with no spider holes. But I will passed. Just didn’t feel my heart racing with it.

So I went to hang out at the local uke stop yesterday. Staff were Super nice and allowed me to play on the Kamaka hf-2, kanile’a k-1 and even a moonbird. I tried only the concerts sizes.

I was so very much blown away by the kamaka hf-2. It’s so much different from the kamaka hf-2D, the deluxe version which I tried on a previous visit.

It’s the lightest ukulele I have ever held, and the playability is great. And somehow, the stock kamaka strings actually sounded nice on it! Sure it’s pretty plain and kind of semi gloss when compared to the kanile’a k-1 concert, full-on gloss with crazy multi-hue of golden koa. The kanile’a did have the bell like dreadnought kind of body..

The moonbird has the loudest brightest voice ever, Period. And it’s just a concert size. Super responsive but I guess it’s my problem, the G and A strings, I have the tendency to push them off the edge of the neck. I don’t see anyone reporting on this.

And the good news is that staff told me a batch of kamakas are coming soon in a few months time and maybe an Ohta San is thrown in the mix.

The sad news is Ohta San fund jar is miserable looking. Haha

Rakelele
04-18-2019, 07:15 PM
Back to the original question of an inexpensive dreadnought style ukulele, I just remembered that Kamoa makes such a model called the Grand Concert:

https://kamoaukuleles.myshopify.com/search?type=product&q=grand

I have never played a Kamoa and cannot testify for their value, but Bazmaz has a review in his "Got A Ukulele" page that makes it sound like a decent instrument.

AustinHing
04-18-2019, 07:44 PM
Back to the original question of an inexpensive dreadnought style ukulele, I just remembered that Kamoa makes such a model called the Grand Concert:

https://kamoaukuleles.myshopify.com/search?type=product&q=grand

I have never played a Kamoa and cannot testify for their value, but Bazmaz has a review in his "Got A Ukulele" page that makes it sound like a decent instrument.

These look really nice! Didnít know kamoa has such models! 370 is not exactly cheap either for me, but definitely a good option.

This one caught my eyes with that Martin look.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0113/2302/products/500_GC_HBS_1512x.jpg?v=1526083510

This one has spruce top and maple back and sides.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0113/2302/products/E3-GC_YellowS_1296x.jpg?v=1526085275