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Jerryc41
06-17-2019, 06:09 AM
Looking through the offerings on Reverb, I often see that a uke is in someone's cart, and it will stay there for days. Right now, there is a Collings that is in two carts. Interesting situation.

I guess people think that if it's in their cart, it's safe. Not quite. "He who pays, plays."

Ukecaster
06-17-2019, 06:10 AM
Those folks are certainly not putting the uke before the cart :D

YogiTom
06-17-2019, 06:46 AM
It is definitely a sales tool for Reverb to get you panicked about loosing out on a purchase. To get you from “watcher” to “buyer”.

I have put a ukulele in my cart that someone else had in theirs, and then left it. I was curious to see if the other cart-putter would buy it now that someone else was just moments away from purchase. That was three weeks ago...the uke is still available...:rolleyes:

Arcy
06-17-2019, 06:53 AM
I toss things in my cart to remember them for later and so I can see what the final price will be with discounts, taxes, and shipping included. I buy seldom enough that the cart works better for this than a watchlist. I have had items I was no longer interested in sit in my cart for weeks.

I often add to my cart on my phone and then leave it until I’m on a full computer to double check and confirm. Only once have I actually gone to buy and someone else already had. In that case the timing was between adding to my cart on my way out of the office, and it selling before I got home.

I do the same on Amazon. My "for later" cart is several pages long. When I get around to cleaning it I'm sure I'll find several items I've already bought and several items that I have no idea why I wanted them.

Arcy
06-17-2019, 06:58 AM
It is definitely a sales tool for Reverb to get you panicked about loosing out on a purchase. To get you from “watcher” to “buyer”.Yes, and it makes something more desirable if somebody else wants it. If nobody is interested then it's probably not a good deal!

I think this psychology is part of the Cocobolo lottery concept: the gamification builds a lot of excitement and desire that ensures everything sells immediately. Without that they could probably charge more but may be slower to sell.

YogiTom
06-17-2019, 07:18 AM
Yes, and it makes something more desirable if somebody else wants it. If nobody is interested then it's probably not a good deal!

I think this psychology is part of the Cocobolo lottery concept: the gamification builds a lot of excitement and desire that ensures everything sells immediately. Without that they could probably charge more but may be slower to sell.

I agree mostly, but I feel like the Cocobolo lottery and the Reverb thing are slightly different. Unfortunately, I can’t articulate why I think that...maybe it is because I justified my Cocobolo lottery entries to myself and I don’t want to admit it was all just a mental game to get me to spend money...:p

Jim Hanks
06-17-2019, 07:22 AM
you see the same thing on Etsy. I think some folks use the cart almost as a "favorites" list without intention of actually buying - just a way to easily find things later.

Arcy
06-17-2019, 09:23 AM
I justified my Cocobolo lottery entries to myself and I don’t want to admit it was all just a mental game to get me to spend money...:pI don't mean it in a bad way: Given the demand, Cocobolo could raise their prices. They drive some of that demand by gamification and by explicit exclusivity--similar to an artist who raises demand by putting out a limited edition which sells more copies than the theoretically unlimited versions--but I think (hope!) they can only do that because they have a really solid product. I don't think I've seen any review (including yours) from somebody who was less that thrilled by their Cocobolo. I'll be back in the lotteries as soon as they put up another baritone!

bkrownd
06-17-2019, 09:56 AM
Looking through the offerings on Reverb, I often see that a uke is in someone's cart, and it will stay there for days. Right now, there is a Collings that is in two carts. Interesting situation.

I guess people think that if it's in their cart, it's safe. Not quite. "He who pays, plays."

Sometimes I'll put something in the cart for an impulse buy and then find out shipping isn't set up for Hawaii and just log out, and it'll sit there for a week or two. ;D

AQUATOPAZ
06-17-2019, 10:17 AM
Looking through the offerings on Reverb, I often see that a uke is in someone's cart, and it will stay there for days. Right now, there is a Collings that is in two carts. Interesting situation.

I guess people think that if it's in their cart, it's safe. Not quite. "He who pays, plays."

I think sometimes people put things in their cart to see the grand total with tax, and payments if they use Affirm, without actually deciding that they intend to purchase it.

AQUATOPAZ
06-17-2019, 10:22 AM
I toss things in my cart to remember them for later and so I can see what the final price will be with discounts, taxes, and shipping included. I buy seldom enough that the cart works better for this than a watchlist. I have had items I was no longer interested in sit in my cart for weeks.

I often add to my cart on my phone and then leave it until I’m on a full computer to double check and confirm. Only once have I actually gone to buy and someone else already had. In that case the timing was between adding to my cart on my way out of the office, and it selling before I got home.

I do the same on Amazon. My "for later" cart is several pages long. When I get around to cleaning it I'm sure I'll find several items I've already bought and several items that I have no idea why I wanted them.

I don't even want to know how long my saved cart on Amazon is. I also have a wishlist. No rhyme or reason, but they both make finding things later easier.

leighbarker
06-17-2019, 09:38 PM
Sometimes I'll put something in the cart for an impulse buy and then find out shipping isn't set up for Hawaii and just log out, and it'll sit there for a week or two. ;D

Amazing how many companies on the mainland can’t handle shipping here. Maybe they nevah heah of “Post Office” or “UPS”.

CommonCurt
06-17-2019, 09:50 PM
I don't even want to know how long my saved cart on Amazon is. I also have a wishlist. No rhyme or reason, but they both make finding things later easier.

Yup, my watch list is so long that it's sometimes easier for me to just add certain instruments to the cart so it's easier to find.

Jerryc41
06-18-2019, 01:30 AM
Amazing how many companies on the mainland can’t handle shipping here. Maybe they nevah heah of “Post Office” or “UPS”.

Yes, that is odd. I've gotten ukes shipped from HI in three days - Wed - Fri. It should work in the other direction, too.

bkrownd
06-18-2019, 10:18 AM
Yes, that is odd. I've gotten ukes shipped from HI in three days - Wed - Fri. It should work in the other direction, too.

It does, once people take the time to investigate the USPS rates. I just got one from Canada within 3 business days. (more tricky for full size guitars which just barely fit within the size restrictions)

about2
06-18-2019, 02:32 PM
I've had really experiences buying off reverb. I've purchase two ukes from it . . . both used. The last one was especially a jewel - and I believe someone else was looking at it, but I was able to pull the trigger. He who hesitates is strumless.

Arcy
07-03-2019, 09:56 PM
Reverb has a 15% off sale running for 4th of July. In honor of this thread I just tossed several items I really don't need (but that I'd been eyeing) in my cart. Darn it. Now to practice willpower through the weekend, especially since I've barely started playing last weekend's GASsing!

Jerryc41
07-04-2019, 12:58 AM
Reverb has a 15% off sale running for 4th of July. In honor of this thread I just tossed several items I really don't need (but that I'd been eyeing) in my cart. Darn it. Now to practice willpower through the weekend, especially since I've barely started playing last weekend's GASsing!

I wonder how that works. It seems to cover only certain items. I wouldn't want to have my price cut by 15% if I was selling something. Mim's prices haven't changed.

Rllink
07-04-2019, 01:47 AM
Yup, my watch list is so long that it's sometimes easier for me to just add certain instruments to the cart so it's easier to find.


Yes, that is odd. I've gotten ukes shipped from HI in three days - Wed - Fri. It should work in the other direction, too.

Same with Puerto Rico. Yet there are UPS and FedEx trucks delivering packages every day and USPS has a post office six blocks from my house. I did though order an amp from Sweetwater and they said on the site that they did not ship to PR or Hawaii. I called them up and the guy I talked to said no problem, they do it all the time.

Jerryc41
07-04-2019, 01:53 AM
I did though order an amp from Sweetwater and they said on the site that they did not ship to PR or Hawaii. I called them up and the guy I talked to said no problem, they do it all the time.

Sweetwater is a very nice company - easy to deal with - and I'll say the same thing about Elderly.

YogiTom
07-04-2019, 04:57 AM
I wonder how that works. It seems to cover only certain items. I wouldn't want to have my price cut by 15% if I was selling something. Mim's prices haven't changed.

I think vendors can choose to list things in the sale. Mim does have a few Ohanas on sale for 15% off, but it appears to be selections rather than store-wide.

Joyful Uke
07-04-2019, 06:04 AM
Sweetwater is a very nice company - easy to deal with - and I'll say the same thing about Elderly.

I've had great experiences with both of those, too. Also Music Emporium, which is one that people don't seem to talk about here. They were super helpful, threw in things like installing strap pins for free, (and, as they said, they got geeky about trying to find what would look best on that particular ukulele), and got the ukulele shipped right away. Great setup job, too.

Griole
07-04-2019, 12:07 PM
The concept of putting things in your cart "so you can remember them" seems a little weird to me. Isn't that the purpose of a watch list? When I put something in my cart, it's because I have decided to purchase it. And that purchase follows shortly. What am I missing?

YogiTom
07-04-2019, 12:15 PM
The concept of putting things in your cart "so you can remember them" seems a little weird to me. Isn't that the purpose of a watch list? When I put something in my cart, it's because I have decided to purchase it. And that purchase follows shortly. What am I missing?

Nothing, in my mind. Some carts also clear after a certain amount of time has elapsed, too, so this seems baffling to me. Wish or watch lists for me, too.

Jim Hanks
07-04-2019, 02:08 PM
What am I missing?

Not all sites have a watch list or you have to have an account on the site for it to work. But all selling sites have a shopping cart so the technique works everywhere. I don't do it often, but I understand it.

Arcy
07-04-2019, 02:25 PM
Reverb 's shopping cart is easier to manage than its watch list (at least in the mobile site). For my usage pattern of a few short term items it's the way to go

AQUATOPAZ
07-04-2019, 10:20 PM
I don't use watch lists. Most of them just attract the attention of competing buyers who can afford software to collate the data in watch lists. Even putting something on my Reading List seems to set off some alerts to eBay and other big sites somehow. If you want to be discrete and cunning so you get the best deal, keep as little information as possible on your internet pages.

Watch lists can comprise lots of types, including curious people, people actually interested in purchasing a product soon, sellers trying to see what items sell for and how quickly they sold for that or didn't sell, and people thinking of purchasing something eventually and just starting their research. Competing buyers know this and don't put much credence in watchers equaling competitors. The truth is, you'll never know how many interested parties there are, and a newly interested party can snap things up immediately, so if you're seriously interested, better to buy than wait. Shopping carts are great for those of us who haven't decided to purchase something yet.

AQUATOPAZ
07-05-2019, 04:03 AM
If you are sure you want something and can afford it, it is better to buy than wait. Reverb offers the opportunity to buy immediately, so if you are sure you want something on Reverb and have the cash, why not buy it immediately? The hesitation happens mostly when you know you can't afford it or you need to stretch a budget to afford it.
On the other hand some things you can't buy immediately, or they have a varying market price and you need to pick the best time to buy. This is not what happens on Reverb, but you can make a watch list for this type of purchase if you want the competing buyers to find out what you are planning.
But this is only my opinion and way of doing things, if you are waiting for a particular item to be listed on Reverb, a seller might look at the watch lists and decide to sell the item and then you get the alert, so it helps the sellers and buyers. But you may need to be quick when you get the alert if the price is good. A checkout is only good for items which have already been listed.

Sometimes people aren't sure they want something, aren't sure they want that model, can't decide between 2 models or listings, are unsure if they can find a similar item in better condition, etc. Reverb also has discounts sellers can be a part of. If you are spending more than a negligible amount of money, nothing wrong with waiting until you make up your mind. The rarer a listing, the likelier a decision will be made quickly. Competing buyers can't know what you're planning if even you don't quite know. They can only know that you're looking - which can be for many reasons. People who have recently purchased an item may also be watching to see what others are willing to pay. Motivations can't be surmised by watch lists or carts.

Rllink
07-05-2019, 07:05 AM
If you are sure you want something and can afford it, it is better to buy than wait. Reverb offers the opportunity to buy immediately, so if you are sure you want something on Reverb and have the cash, why not buy it immediately? The hesitation happens mostly when you know you can't afford it or you need to stretch a budget to afford it.
On the other hand some things you can't buy immediately, or they have a varying market price and you need to pick the best time to buy. This is not what happens on Reverb, but you can make a watch list for this type of purchase if you want the competing buyers to find out what you are planning.
But this is only my opinion and way of doing things, if you are waiting for a particular item to be listed on Reverb, a seller might look at the watch lists and decide to sell the item and then you get the alert, so it helps the sellers and buyers. But you may need to be quick when you get the alert if the price is good. A checkout is only good for items which have already been listed.

People have lots of reasons for doing what they do. Sometimes people actually do things for no reason at all. I do a lot of things without sitting down and questioning my reasoning for doing it. I don't think one can make a general statement of how other people should watch items for sale on the internet. It is all up to the individual. I watch ukuleles that are for sale all of the time on several sites with no intention of buying one. I just like to see what they go for.