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MGM
08-01-2009, 09:24 AM
I will be posting 2 videos that are blacked out of 12 ukuleles...All Tenors..Brands from Kala Lanikai Pono Ohana and Kanilea. Can you tell just from sound which is all laminate, which is laminate solid top and which are all solid???? hmmmmm I Bet you will find it harder than you think. These are all strung with aquila all plain High g tuning and all are played in the same manner with no alteration to recordings......

First person to name all the construction correctly will win a free Kala Ka-t w case.....

They are downloading on you tube now probably up in half an hour or so....

First 8 ukes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBNR-N1s-V0


Last 4 ukes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abjka_cXmcU

ukulelearp
08-01-2009, 10:19 AM
The first video is giving me an error...is it just me?

Edit: Nevermind, it says the video isn't processed yet.

MGM
08-01-2009, 10:25 AM
they should all be working and processed now.....good luck

DeG
08-01-2009, 10:32 AM
#1 Solid top, laminate
#2 Solid
#3 laminate
#4 Laminate
#5 Solid
#6 Solid
#7 Solid top, laminate
#8 Solid
#9 solid top, laminate
#10 Solid
#11 Solid
#12 Laminate

Either that, or it is all the same uke!! :D

MGM
08-01-2009, 10:34 AM
five out of 12 LOL keep trying

puremarkska
08-01-2009, 10:47 AM
1. Laminate top, plastic back and sides
2. Solid top, plywood back and sides
3. Teak top, abalone inlays
4. Solid plastic top with x-bracing, rounded plastic back
5. Laminate mahogany top, unicorn horn nut and saddle
6. Solid carbon fibre, designed by PH
7. TV Pal
8. Solid spruce archtop electric
9. Definitely - solid koa kamaka
10. Washtub, stick, and Aquila strings
11. Solid mahogany veneer
12. Solid cedar top, Papier-mâché back and sides

:D Even if no one ever wins this, you've made a really, really good point, Mike!

MGM
08-01-2009, 10:49 AM
12 out of 12 WRONG lol

vahn
08-01-2009, 10:50 AM
uke #1 laminate
uke #2 solid top
uke #3 laminate
uke #4 solid top
uke #5 solid top
uke #6 solid
uke #7 solid top
uke #8 solid
uke #9 laminate
uke #10 solid top
uke #11 solid
uke #12 solid top

MGM
08-01-2009, 10:53 AM
5 correct Aloha

ukulelearp
08-01-2009, 10:56 AM
Before I post my guesses, are we allowed more than one try?

vahn
08-01-2009, 10:56 AM
damn you for stringing them with aquilas. aquilas make everything sound the same (woot 100th post I'm a senior now wheres my social security?)

dominicfoundthemooon
08-01-2009, 10:57 AM
at the risk of sounding stupid! (because i am a N00B at the uke) i will take a shot.. i always like MGM videos!! so here goes..


1 Solid top, laminate
2 Laminate
3 laminate
4 Laminate
5 Solid
6 Laminate
7 Solid top, laminate
8 Solid
9 Laminate
10 Solid
11 Solid
12 Solid top, laminate

ummmm yeah..

MGM
08-01-2009, 11:07 AM
Try as many times as you like I may not always answer how many are correct as i have work to do..but will when i can so you guys can narrow it down

vahn
08-01-2009, 11:08 AM
is it split up so theres 4 of each?

pithaya9
08-01-2009, 11:22 AM
Great contest Mike.

Eric
08-01-2009, 11:23 AM
I'll have a go!

#1 solid
#2 laminate, solid top
#3 solid
#4 laminate
#5 laminate, solid top
#6 solid
#7 laminate
#8 solid
#9 laminate
#10 solid
#11 laminate, solid top
#12 laminate

Very nice to listen to them all. All of them sound good but some sound REALLY good. I wonder which ones they are? :D

MGM
08-01-2009, 11:25 AM
yes enter as often as you wish

DeG
08-01-2009, 11:32 AM
#1 solid
#2 solid top
#3 laminate
#4 laminate
#5 laminate
#6 solid
#7 solid
#8 solid
#9 laminate
#10 solid
#11 solid
#12 solid

MGM
08-01-2009, 11:33 AM
dominic found the moon 3 correct

MGM
08-01-2009, 11:33 AM
DEG 2nd try 6 correct

Teek
08-01-2009, 11:38 AM
I have all solid, and being a noob, what would I know? And, your computer's noise really freaked me out for a few moments there, so I'll blame that for disrupting my Zen like powers of concentration and discernment!

1= laminate
2= solid top
3= solid
4= solid
5= solid
6= laminate
7= solid top
8= solid top
9= solid
10= solid top
11= solid
12= solid

I figure I have a better chance of hitting an exacta at the local track, but thanks so much for the informative exercise!

(I'm also suspicious that they are ALL laminate, and that you are setting us up to hear something different because we are expecting that the choice is there! LOL! I know how this kind of testing works in the psych field...) :D

Skrik
08-01-2009, 11:44 AM
01. Laminated
02. Solid
03. Solid
04. Laminated
05. Solid
06. Solid top/ laminated
07. Solid top/ laminated
08. Laminated
09. Solid
10. Laminated
11. Solid top/ laminated
12. Solid

If I enter 1728 times in the next few minutes, I can guarantee a win. Hmm.

ukulelearp
08-01-2009, 11:44 AM
Here's my first try:

1.solid
2. solid top
3. laminate
4.laminate
5.solid
6.solid top
7.solid top
8.solid
9. solid
10.laminate
11.solid
12.solid

MGM
08-01-2009, 11:45 AM
teek got 6 right Alec 4 right

MGM
08-01-2009, 11:48 AM
Looks like its going to be one looooong contest LOL

mailman
08-01-2009, 11:49 AM
Here's my first shot....

1 laminate
2 laminate
3 solid
4 laminate/solid top
5 solid
6 laminate/solid top
7 laminate
8 laminate/solid top
9 solid
10 laminate
11 solid
12 laminate/solid top

gp-ak
08-01-2009, 11:54 AM
1. Laminate
2. Solid
3. Laminate
4. Laminate
5. Solid
6. Solid top
7. solid top
8. Laminate
9. Laminate
10. Solid top
11. Solid
12.solid top

Pippin
08-01-2009, 12:10 PM
I have all solid, and being a noob, what would I know? And, your computer's noise really freaked me out for a few moments there, so I'll blame that for disrupting my Zen like powers of concentration and discernment!

1= laminate
2= solid top
3= solid
4= solid
5= solid
6= laminate
7= solid top
8= solid top
9= solid
10= solid top
11= solid
12= solid

I figure I have a better chance of hitting an exacta at the local track, but thanks so much for the informative exercise!

(I'm also suspicious that they are ALL laminate, and that you are setting us up to hear something different because we are expecting that the choice is there! LOL! I know how this kind of testing works in the psych field...) :D

Your Zen-like powers should mean you don't concentrate at all... Free your mind.
:cool:

ukulelearp
08-01-2009, 12:21 PM
Another try:

1. solid top
2.solid top
3.laminate
4. laminate
5.solid
6. solid
7. solid top
8. solid
9. laminate
10. solid top
11. solid
12. solid

Teek
08-01-2009, 12:32 PM
Ok, second try with speakers instead of crappy headphones (the neighbors can just suffer for the cause), the washing machine off spin cycle, and I actually took my one tenor (solid koa) out and listened to it..

Pippin, The Force is weak in this one today.

1= laminate
2= solid
3= laminate
4= solid top
5= solid
6= solid
7= solid
8= solid top
9= solid
10= solid top
11= solid
12= solid


Now I have to go get something done today. I don't have room for more ukes anyway. I am really interested in when we get the answers so I can go train my ear. I will note that I have not been influenced by anyone else's answers however.

Boozelele
08-01-2009, 12:54 PM
#1 solid top
#2 laminate
#3 solid
#4 laminate
#5 solid
#6 solid top
#7 solid
#8 laminate
#9 laminate
#10 solid
#11 laminate
#12 solid

Teek
08-01-2009, 12:58 PM
Well I'm back, just to say I think Puremarkska should get a free set of strings for the most original answer! :shaka:

SailorQwest
08-01-2009, 01:40 PM
1 - Solid
2 - Solid
3 - Solid Top
4 - Laminate
5 - Laminate
6 - Solid Top
7 - Solid Top
8 - Laminate
9 - Solid
10- Solid Top
11- Solid Top
12- Lamiate

MGM
08-01-2009, 01:55 PM
Nobodys got it yet i am not at the shop with the list so i cant score but ican tell answers are wrong on some

Toucan Mango
08-01-2009, 02:01 PM
1- solid top
2- solid top
3- laminate
4- solid
5- solid
6- laminate
7- laminate
8- solid
9- laminate
10- solid top
11- solid
12- solid top

:shaka:

SailQwest
08-01-2009, 02:22 PM
1. Solid Top
2. Solid
3. Laminate
4. Solid Top
5. Solid
6. Solid
7. Laminate
8. Laminate
9. Solid
10. Solid Top
11. Solid
12. Solid Top

pithaya9
08-01-2009, 02:22 PM
1 Solid
2 Laminate
3 Laminate
4 Laminate
5 Solid Top
6 Solid
7 Laminate
8 Solid
9 Solid Top
10 Laminate
11 Solid
12 Solid

Jimmy
08-01-2009, 02:37 PM
Nice contest, I think I like the sound of all the ukuleles anyway.

1. Laminate
2. Solid top
3. Laminate
4. Solid
5. Solid
6. Laminate
7. Laminate
8. Solid
9. Solid Top
10. Laminate
11. Solid
12. Solid Top

DeG
08-01-2009, 02:42 PM
#1 Laminate
#2 Solid Top
#3 Solid
#4 Laminate
#5 Solid top
#6 Solid
#7 Laminate
#8 Solid Top
#9 Solid Top
#10 Solid
#11 Solid
#12 Solid

Lori
08-01-2009, 03:17 PM
1. Laminate/ solid top
2. Laminate
3. Laminate
4. Laminate
5. Solid
6. Solid
7. Solid
8. Laminate/ solid top
9. Laminate/ solid top
10. Solid
11. Solid
12. Solid
–Lori

generem
08-01-2009, 04:08 PM
1.Solid
2.Laminate Solid Top
3.Laminate
4.Solid
5.Laminate
6.Laminate Solid Top
7.Solid
8.Laminate
9.Solid
10.Laminate Solid Top
11.Laminate
12.Laminate Solid Top

dnewton2
08-01-2009, 04:30 PM
Ok sorry everyone here is the winning entry.:rotfl:

1. Solid Top
2. Laminate
3. Solid top
4. Solid
5. Solid
6. Solid top
7. Laminate
8. Solid
9. Laminate
10. Laminate
11. Solid top
12. Laminate

CoLmes
08-01-2009, 04:50 PM
1st entry

1. solid
2.solid top
3.lam
4.lam
5.solid top
6.solid top
7.lam
8.solid
9.lam
10.solid
11. solid
12.lam

MGM
08-01-2009, 04:55 PM
BAAAAAAAWMMP still wrong have fun guys i will check back later going to the 70"s nightclub reunion concert wit da boys...

check out the website
www.70snightclubreunion.com

DeG
08-01-2009, 06:03 PM
#1 Laminate
#2 Solid Top
#3 solid Top
#4 Solid
#5 Laminate
#6 Solid
#7 Solid Top
#8 Laminate
#9 Solid Top
#10 Solid
#11 Solid
#12 Solid

ukulelearp
08-01-2009, 06:26 PM
1 Laminate
2 Solid Top
3 solid Top
4 Laminate
5 Laminate
6 Solid
7 Solid Top
8 Laminate
9 Solid Top
10 Solid
11 Solid Top
12 Solid

Lori
08-01-2009, 07:19 PM
Last try for me!

1. Solid/ Laminate
2. Laminate
3. Solid
4. Laminate
5. Solid/ Laminate
6. Solid
7. Laminate
8. Solid
9. Solid/ Laminate
10. Solid
11. Solid
12. Solid/ Laminate
–Lori

cocohonk
08-01-2009, 07:47 PM
1. Solid Top
2. Solid Top
3. Laminate
4. Solid
5. Laminate
6. Solid
7. Laminate
8. Solid Top
9. Solid Top
10. Solid Top
11. Solid
12. Solid

I hope I don't embarrass myself too much - I'm not familiar with solid tops (I've only tried playing on one once before), so I kind of lumped all the ones that seem to sound nicer than the laminates but not as nice as the solids) in that category. :D

petah
08-01-2009, 07:59 PM
S
ST
L
L
S
S
ST
S
L
S
S
S



ST=solid top
S=Solid
L= Laminate

ukeatan
08-01-2009, 08:15 PM
1 laminate
2 solid top
3 solid
4 solid top
5 laminate
6 solid
7 solid top
8 laminate
9 solid top
10 solid
11 solid
12 solid

Fudgers
08-01-2009, 08:19 PM
1. Lam
2. solid top
3. Lam
4. solid
5. lam
6. lam
7. solid top
8. solid
9. solid
10. solid top
11.solid
12 lam

cashew
08-01-2009, 08:22 PM
I'm probably 100% wrong, but here goes...

1-Laminate/solid top
2- Solid
3-Laminate
4-Lam/solid top
5-Laminate
6-Solid
7-Solid
8-Lam/Solid top
9- Solid
10-Lam/Solid Top
11-Laminate
12-Laminate

uke4all
08-01-2009, 08:54 PM
1.solid
2 laminate
3 solid top
4 solid
5 laminate
6 solid top
7 laminate
8 solid top
9 solid top
10 solid top
11 solid
12 laminate

paw123los
08-01-2009, 10:30 PM
Here's my try:

1. solid top
2. solid
3. laminate
4. laminate
5. solid top
6. solid
7. solid top
8. laminate
9. solid
10. solid top
11. solid
12. laminate

HoldinCoffee
08-01-2009, 10:34 PM
1) Solid Top
2) Solid
3) Laminate
4) Solid
5) Solid Top
6) Solid
7) Solid
8) Solid Top
9) Laminate
10) Solid
11) Solid
12) Solid Top

experimentjon
08-01-2009, 11:24 PM
Wow. Hardcore contest. I can't tell the difference in many of them, since Aquilas pretty much level the playing field by making the laminates sound better and making the solid ones sound about the same. Some of them were definitely solid woods (or if you can get that kind of tone from laminate woods, sign me up), but it takes a fine ear to tell the difference between some of the others.

Given 3^12 possible answers (531,441) this could take a while, LOL.

thomas
08-02-2009, 02:19 AM
I have a question. Are they "broken in," or are they all brand new? If they were all 5 years old this may be a llittle easier. The solid ones will sound better then, but the laminates will still be the same right? But the interesting part would be the solid tops on laminate bodys.

If they are brand new it is quite possible that the solid ones sound worse than the laminates. But give them 100 hours and you have a different story.


It is a very interesting experiment nonetheless.

Take care,
Thomas

UkuLeLesReggAe
08-02-2009, 02:48 AM
1. Laminate
2. Laminate
3. Solid
4. Laminate with solid top
5. Laminate
6. Solid
7. Solid
8. Spruce Top
9. Solid
10. Laminate with solid top
11. Laminate with solid top
12. Solid

i duno if any1 has even won yet lol..

AnnaUK
08-02-2009, 04:00 AM
1 - Laminate
2 - Solid top
3 - Laminate
4 - Solid
5 - Laminate
6 - Solid top
7 - Solid top
8 - Laminate
9 - Solid
10 - Solid top
11 - Laminate
12 - Laminate

Ha ha, no idea. They sound great in the hands of MGM, though :)
Hey Mic, is anyone getting even close?

ukerazy
08-02-2009, 04:53 AM
My first try:

01 - Laminate
02 - Solid top
03 - Solid
04 - Solid
05 - Solid top
06 - Laminate
07 - Solid
08 - Solid top
09 - Laminate
10 - Solid
11 - Solid
12 - Laminate

I kind of also agree with Teek in that maybe were being set up to prove a point lol and therefor...

My second try:

12 X Laminate! LOL!

baumer
08-02-2009, 05:08 AM
1. laminate
2. solid top
3. solid
4. laminate
5. solid
6. solid
7. laminate
8. solid top
9. laminate
10. laminate
11. solid
12. solid top

When someone nails this and wins, it would be fun to go back through the thread and count up the votes for each one.

Raygf
08-02-2009, 05:17 AM
:confused:This is one tough test and a real schooling once we know the answers. Thanks Mike. I own laminate, solid top/laminate, solid koa and several solid mahogany instruments, but it's no help here. I have listened several times between last night and this morning and keep changing my answers. What a real testament to Aquila strings on laminates. It seems there is no way anyone could possibly get 12 out of 12 right. Not without some help. Now, if we knew at least some of the right answers, which ones are laminates, spruce tops, solid koa/mahogany, etc. Can you give us some help here Mike? Anything? (I know, I know, but can you blame me for at least trying.) Here is my first attempt.

1.solid top laminate
2.laminate
3.laminate
4.solid top laminate
5.solid
6.solid
7.laminate
8.laminate
9.laminate
10.solid top laminate
11.solid
12.laminate

thomas
08-02-2009, 05:31 AM
heres a guess anyway, assumning they are all new and trying to consider the Aquilas and that brand new solid ukuleles dont sound too good for the first 10 hours of playing, but after that...

1 solid
2 laminate
3 solid top
4 solid top
5 solid
6 laminate
7 solid top
8 solid
9 solid top
10 laminate
11 laminate
12 solid

Lori
08-02-2009, 06:05 AM
It would help if we knew how many of each type there are. How many are solid, how many are laminate, how many combos?

Would you mind redoing the whole thing with Worth Clears?:biglaugh:
No really, I would listen to them all again, honest! Probably end up buying one in the end (so far I am loving #11 but I would like to hear it with the Worths). OR, do the same test with concert size (that is the size I am missing) with Worth strings.

Just a thought...

–Lori

CDon
08-02-2009, 06:48 AM
It would help if we knew how many of each type there are. How many are solid, how many are laminate, how many combos?
But that would be defeating the whole point... But the point may be lost anyway considering the low fidelity of youToob audio. Wav or even mp3 files (and some good headphones) would be more telling. But one can still hear differences, so it is an interesting exercise... I do like no. 11... Probably pink or looks like a watermelon... :D

pithaya9
08-02-2009, 07:14 AM
My second try probably no better than the first.

1 Solid
2 Laminate
3 Solid Top
4 Laminate
5 Solid
6 Solid
7 Laminate
8 Solid
9 Solid Top
10 Laminate
11 Solid Top
12 Solid

MGM
08-02-2009, 08:22 AM
Okay looks like this is harder than i thought There are 5 solids, 3 laminates and 4 lam w/ solid tops......Makes you wonder though It seems everryone on forums ALWAYS say get solid wood...but without seeing the ukulele can most tell????

ukerazy
08-02-2009, 08:32 AM
Makes you wonder though It seems everryone on forums ALWAYS say get solid wood...but without seeing the ukulele can most tell????


This is going to make an excellent point to those of whome are biased to only solid woods.

Kekani
08-02-2009, 09:04 AM
damn you for stringing them with aquilas.

Since you're giving hints, at this point I'll chime in and agree with Vahn.

Note: there is no comment here about making it sound better although I know why you chose Aquila. In this situation, I would've done the same.

In any case, I think you should've put better strings on.

Here's one: How about doing another run, and playing them soft?

-Aaron

DeG
08-02-2009, 09:16 AM
#1 Laminate
#2 Solid Top/laminate
#3 Solid Top/laminate
#4 Solid
#5 Laminate
#6 Solid
#7 Solid Top/laminate
#8 Laminate
#9 Solid Top/laminate
#10 Solid
#11 Solid
#12 Solid

Ahnko Honu
08-02-2009, 09:31 AM
First try

1. L
2. S
3. L
4. ST
5. S
6. S
7. ST
8. ST
9. L
10. S
11. S
12. ST

ukerazy
08-02-2009, 09:38 AM
01 - Laminate
02 - Solid top
03 - Solid
04 - Solid
05 - Solid top
06 - Laminate
07 - Solid
08 - Solid top
09 - Laminate
10 - Solid
11 - Solid
12 - Solid top

smithpaul60
08-02-2009, 09:43 AM
1st attempt

1-ST
2-ST
3-L
4-L
5-S
6-S
7-ST
8-S
9-L
10-S
11-S
12-ST

MGM
08-02-2009, 09:58 AM
Getting better but no cigar Aaron they all have aquilas so its all same strings since typically that is what these would go out as...now come on and guess...lol

ukeatan
08-02-2009, 09:59 AM
1 laminate
2 solid top
3 solid
4 laminate
5 solid top
6 solid
7 laminate
8 solid top
9 solid top
10 solid
11 solid
12 solid

Teek
08-02-2009, 10:06 AM
Third try, half are guesses. The Aquilas do level the field because of volume and brashness. I vote for a do over with Worths also, LOL!

1= laminate
2= solid top
3= laminate
4= laminate
5= solid
6= solid
7= solid top
8= solid top
9= solid top
10= solid
11= solid
12= solid

Kekani
08-02-2009, 10:50 AM
Okay, I only got through the first 4 the other day, and I didn't listen past that. Even though I've had a few hints, here's what I wrote the other day:

Solid
S/L
Laminate
Solid

Seems like I'm guessing solid where a lot are guessing laminate. I'll be honest, I have no idea what a laminate sounds like, simply because I don't take an interest. But I do know what Spruce, Cedar, Koa and Mahogany sounds like with good strings, tuned low g.

-Aaron

MGM
08-02-2009, 10:54 AM
Aaron you have one wrong

ukeatan
08-02-2009, 11:00 AM
1 laminate
2 solid top
3 laminate
4 solid
5 solid top
6 solid
7 laminate
8 solid top
9 solid top
10 solid
11 solid
12 solid

BrotherUke
08-02-2009, 11:09 AM
1. S
2. L
3. L
4. S
5. L
6. L - st
7. L
8. L - st
9. L
10. S
11. S
12. L - st

mailman
08-02-2009, 12:04 PM
2nd guess....

1 S
2 L/S
3 L
4 S
5 L
6 S
7 L/S
8 S
9 L/S
10 L/S
11 S
12 L

vahn
08-02-2009, 12:06 PM
1-l
2-st
3-st
4-l
5-s
6-s
7-s
8-st
9-l
10-s
11-s
12-st

ukulelearp
08-02-2009, 12:09 PM
1. solid top
2.solid top
3.laminate
4. laminate
5.solid
6. solid
7. solid top
8. solid
9. laminate
10. solid top
11. solid
12. solid

pithaya9
08-02-2009, 02:09 PM
1 Solid
2 Laminate Solid Top
3 Laminate
4 Laminate
5 Solid
6 Solid
7 Laminate Solid Top
8 Laminate Solid Top
9 Laminate
10 Laminate Solid Top
11 Solid
12 Solid

cocohonk
08-02-2009, 02:21 PM
2nd try:

1. Solid Top
2. Solid Top
3. Laminate
4. Solid
5. Laminate
6. Solid
7. Laminate
8. Solid
9. Solid Top
10. Solid Top
11. Solid
12. Solid

Kekani
08-02-2009, 04:12 PM
Aaron you have one wrong

I guess no one's really paying attention to the hint you gave with this.

-Aaron

CoLmes
08-02-2009, 04:49 PM
try 2

1. solid
2.solid top
3.lam
4.solid top
5.lam
6.solid top
7.lam
8.solid
9.lam
10.solid
11. solid
12.lam

Teek
08-02-2009, 05:14 PM
I think I've lost count, and my ears are tired. :p Still like 11 though.

1= laminate
2= solid top
3= laminate
4= solid
5= solid
6= laminate
7= solid top
8= solid top
9= solid top
10= solid
11= solid
12= solid

Austin.
08-02-2009, 05:56 PM
Doesn't hurt to try, I just hope that I don't look like an idiot... ;)

1: solid
2: l/s
3: l/s
4: solid
5: laminate
6: laminate
7: solid
8: l/s
9: solid
10: l/s
11: solid
12: laminate

built
08-02-2009, 06:04 PM
Originally Posted by MGM : Aaron you have one wrong

I guess no one's really paying attention to the hint you gave with this.

-Aaron
:confused: could it be two?

uke4all
08-02-2009, 06:20 PM
#1 solid
#2 solid top
#3 solid top
#4 laminate
#5 solid
#6 solid top
#7 solid
#8 solid top
#9laminate
#10 solid
#11 solid
#12 laminate

Fudgers
08-02-2009, 08:42 PM
#2
1. Lam
2. solid top
3. Lam
4. solid
5. solid top
6. solid
7. solid top
8. solid
9. solid
10. solid top
11.solid
12 lam

Teek
08-02-2009, 08:59 PM
1= laminate
2= solid top
3= laminate
4= solid
5= solid top
6= solid
7= solid top
8= laminate
9= solid top
10= solid
11= solid
12= solid

:wallbash:

UkuLeLesReggAe
08-02-2009, 10:46 PM
1 solid
2 laminate with solid top
3 laminate
4 laminate with solid top
5 solid
6 solid
7 solid
8 laminate
9 laminate
10 laminate with solid top
11 solid
12 laminate with solid top

did i win?! :D

converse415
08-03-2009, 12:24 AM
1 solid top
2 solid top
3 laminate
4 laminate
5 solid
6 solid
7 solid top
8 solid
9 laminate
10 solid top
11 solid
12 solid

converse415
08-03-2009, 12:53 AM
1 solid
2 solid top
3 laminate
4 laminate
5 solid
6 laminate
7 solid top
8 solid
9 solid top
10 solid
11 solid
12 solid top

fossil
08-03-2009, 03:48 AM
1.) Solid
2.) Laminate/Solid
3.) Laminate/Solid
4.) Solid
5.) Laminate
6.) Laminate
7.) Laminate/Solid
8.) Laminate
9.) Laminate/Solid
10.) Solid
11.) Solid
12.) Solid

MGM
08-03-2009, 06:30 AM
Hint Fudgers got the first 6 in a row correct 8 total correct for him

dnewton2
08-03-2009, 06:34 AM
1. Lam
2. solid top
3. Lam
4. solid
5. solid top
6. solid
7. solid
8. solid
9. solid top
10. solid
11.lam
12 solid top

ukerazy
08-03-2009, 06:38 AM
01. Laminate
02. solid top
03. Laminate
04. solid
05. solid top
06. solid
07. laminate
08. solid
09. solid
10. solid top
11.solid
12 solid top

Eric
08-03-2009, 06:55 AM
Ok I've had another listen...
1 Laminate
2 Solid top
3 Laminate
4 Solid top
5 Solid
6 Solid
7 Solid top
8 Solid top
9 Laminate
10 Solid
11 Solid
12 Solid

here's hoping... :shaka:

ukeatan
08-03-2009, 06:56 AM
1 laminate
2 solid top
3 laminate
4 solid
5 solid top
6 solid
7 solid
8 solid top
9 solid top
10 solid
11 solid
12 laminate

pithaya9
08-03-2009, 07:05 AM
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. S
9. St
10. St
11.s
12 l

ukeatan
08-03-2009, 07:15 AM
1 laminate
2 solid top
3 laminate
4 solid
5 solid top
6 solid
7 solid top
8 solid top
9 laminate
10 solid
11 solid
12 solid top

smithpaul60
08-03-2009, 07:15 AM
2nd try

1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. St
9. S
10. S
11.St
12 L

pamelamama
08-03-2009, 07:33 AM
This reminds me of those logic puzzles where you have to figure out who smokes marlboros and who lives in the yellow house.

1. Lam
2. solid top
3. Lam
4. solid
5. solid top
6. solid
7. solid top
8. solid
9. solid
10. solid
11. laminate
12. solid top

smithpaul60
08-03-2009, 07:36 AM
This reminds me of those logic puzzles where you have to figure out who smokes marlboros and who lives in the yellow house.

I got that feel too.

ukulelearp
08-03-2009, 07:38 AM
ANother try!

1. Lam
2. solid top
3. Lam
4. solid
5. solid top
6. solid
7. solid top
8. solidtop
9. laminate
10. solid
11.solid
12 solid

rossjr
08-03-2009, 07:43 AM
1) '69 Camero SS 327 w/Holley 4 bbl carbs
2) '71 'cuda 383, blown with glass packs
3) '62 Corvette Stock 350
4) '67 Shelby Mustang 351 Cleveland stock carbs and exhaust
5) '72 Vega 140 with Holley 2bbl carb
6) '78 Volare' 318 Lean burn, dual exhaust
7) '80 Citation with cloth seat covers
8) '99 Neon with a whole in the catalytic converter
9) '02 Honda Shadow Spirit 1100, caburated with stock exhaust
10) Yugo (who cares what year...)
11) '09 Challenger SRT
12) '78 Omni

dnewton2
08-03-2009, 07:50 AM
1. Lam
2. solid top
3. Lam
4. solid
5. solid top
6. solid
7. solid
8. lam
9. solid top
10. solid
11.solid
12 solid top

MGM
08-03-2009, 07:51 AM
smith paul Okay guys he had 10 of 12 correct!!! doesn't take a rocket scientist at this point

ukerazy
08-03-2009, 07:54 AM
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. St
9. S
10. S
11.L
12 ST

dnewton2
08-03-2009, 07:56 AM
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. S
9. St
10. S
11.St
12 L

vahn
08-03-2009, 08:00 AM
1. Lam
2. solid top
3. Lam
4. solid
5. solid top
6. solid
7. solid
8. solid top
9. laminate
10.solid
11.solid top
12 solid

ukulelearp
08-03-2009, 08:00 AM
1. Lam
2. Sol top
3. Lam
4. Sol
5. Sol top
6. Sol
7. Sol
8. Sol top
9. Lam
10. Sol
11.Sol top
12 Sol

dnewton2
08-03-2009, 08:02 AM
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. St
9. S
10. St
11.S
12 L

ukulelearp
08-03-2009, 08:03 AM
1. Laminate
2. Solid top
3. Laminate
4. Solid
5. Solid top6. Solid7. Solid top
8. Solid top
9. Solid
10. Solid
11.Solid
12 Laminate

ukeatan
08-03-2009, 08:03 AM
1 laminate
2 solid top
3 laminate
4 solid
5 solid top
6 solid
7 solid
8 solid
9 solid top
10 solid
11 solid top
12 laminate

vahn
08-03-2009, 08:04 AM
1. Lam
2. solid top
3. Lam
4. solid
5. solid top
6. solid
7. solid
8. solid
9. solid top
10.solid
11.solid top
12 laminate

ukerazy
08-03-2009, 08:05 AM
Come on MGM put an end to all this madness! the speed of the posts are craaazy! lol

ukeatan
08-03-2009, 08:07 AM
Come on MGM put an end to all this madness! the speed of the posts are craaazy! lol

Agreed. Oh what the heck:

1 laminate
2 solid top
3 laminate
4 solid
5 solid top
6 solid
7 solid
8 solid top
9 solid top
10 solid
11 solid
12 laminate

vahn
08-03-2009, 08:07 AM
1. Lam
2. solid top
3. Lam
4. solid
5. solid top
6. solid
7. solid
8. laminate
9. solid
10.solid
11.solid top
12 solid top

ukulelearp
08-03-2009, 08:07 AM
1. Laminate
2. Solid top
3. Laminate
4. Solid
5. Solid top
6. Solid
7. Solid
8. Solid
9. Solid Top
10. Solid
11.Solid Top
12 Laminate

dnewton2
08-03-2009, 08:08 AM
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. L
9. S
10. S
11.St
12 St

ukerazy
08-03-2009, 08:08 AM
LOL!! Give it up, surely someone has got it by now!!

dnewton2
08-03-2009, 08:08 AM
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. St
9. S
10. S
11.L
12 St

vahn
08-03-2009, 08:27 AM
uke #1 laminate
uke #2 solid top
uke #3 laminate
uke #4 solid
uke #5 solid top
uke #6 solid
uke #7 laminate
uke #8 solid top
uke #9 solid
uke #10 solid
uke #11 solid top
uke #12 solid

vahn
08-03-2009, 08:39 AM
uke #1 laminate
uke #2 solid top
uke #3 laminate
uke #4 solid
uke #5 solid top
uke #6 solid
uke #7 solid
uke #8 solid top
uke #9 solid top
uke #10 solid
uke #11 solid
uke #12 laminate

dnewton2
08-03-2009, 08:40 AM
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. St
8. S
9. S
10. S
11.St
12 L

dnewton2
08-03-2009, 08:43 AM
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. S
9. S
10. St
11.St
12 L

dnewton2
08-03-2009, 08:43 AM
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. St
9. S
10. L
11.St
12 S

smithpaul60
08-03-2009, 08:47 AM
One of these has to be right:

#1
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. St
9. S
10. S
11.St
12. L

# 2
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
st
8.S
9. S
10. S
11.St
12. L

#3
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
st
8. St
9. S
10. S
11. S
12. L

#4
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
L
8. St
9. S
10. S
11.St
12. S

#5
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. S
9. ST
10. S
11.St
12. L

#6
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. S
9. S
10. ST
11.St
12. L

#7
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. L
9. S
10. S
11.St
12. ST

#8
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. St
9. ST
10. S
11. S
12. L

#9
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. St
9. L
10. S
11.St
12. S

#10
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. St
9. S
10. S
11. ST
12. L

#11
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. St
9. S
10. L
11.St
12. S

#12
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. St
9. S
10. S
11. L
12. ST

Mathematically these are the only solutions of 10/12 right and the first 6 correct. I worked out #1 logically and barring any errors in the scoring or my recording hopefully i got it.

I tried to put these side by side but it didn't work. Sorry for the long post. I love challenges.

vahn
08-03-2009, 08:49 AM
congrats... math wins...

pithaya9
08-03-2009, 08:56 AM
1. L
2. St
3. L
4. S
5. St
6. S
7. S
8. S
9. S
10. St
11.st
12 l

dnewton2
08-03-2009, 09:08 AM
One of these has to be right:

#1 Smithpaul (really?)

# 2 dnewton2

#3 alec

#4 vahn

#5 dnewton2

#6 dnewton2

#7 vahn

#8 ukeatan

#9 vahn

#10 smithpaul

#11 dnewton2

#12 ukerazy

Mathematically these are the only solutions of 10/12 right and the first 6 correct. I worked out #1 logically and barring any errors in the scoring or my recording hopefully i got it.



I was doing the same thing. as long as this is right the winnere for each option is listed above. By who posted it first. Guess we will have to wait for MGM. Good luck! :shaka:

(I might have made a mistake but I am pretty sure those are right)

ukerazy
08-03-2009, 09:11 AM
WOOP! I'm in the running!

smithpaul60
08-03-2009, 09:37 AM
Really?

yeah. I took Vahn's original guess (he gets 5 right) and put it next to Fudgers guess (first 6 correct / 8 total)

V F
L L
ST ST
L L
ST S
ST ST
S S

ST ST
S S
L S
ST ST
S S
ST L

Differences highlighted

If fudgers first 6 are right, then you find that the five vahn got right are all in the first six. So therefore the last six must all be wrong.

You'll also notice that there are only two differences in the last six between the two guesses. (#9 & #12)


since we know that fudgers got 8 total correct, we know that he got two of the last six right. If ALL of vahns last six are wrong then the two differences must be right.

now we have

1 L
2 St
3 L
4 S
5 St
6 S
7 Not St
8 Not S
9 S
10 Not St
11 Not S
12 L

Now taking into account that there are only 5 solids, 4 solid tops, and 3 laminates we can count out the laminates since there are three known (1,3,12) and there are three solids known (4,6,9) and two ST (2,5) Leaving only 2 solids and 2 solid tops.

using what we know:

7 Not ST = Must be S
8 Not S = Must be ST
10 Not ST = Must be S
11 Not S = Must be ST

so it gives me my #1 (or second guess) However MGM said i only got 10/12 right so I must have messed up somewhere.

If i am completely wrong then "my bad". Oh well it was fun. Good luck to All. And thanks for posting who put the lists first, we were all doing the same thing at the same time.

Skrik
08-03-2009, 10:00 AM
It's good that statistics can find it out, cause we're useless at it.

MGM
08-03-2009, 10:16 AM
i believe uke eaten was the first to get it right if anybody can show me an earlier one let me know quick otherwise its UKEEATON DA WINNER...I don;t have time to go over the whole post...See the next thread for the results

vahn
08-03-2009, 10:17 AM
hey MGM so this is the winner?

1 laminate
2 solid top
3 laminate
4 solid
5 solid top
6 solid
7 solid
8 solid top
9 solid top
10 solid
11 solid
12 laminate

That means I had 6 right in my first post (therefore all the math I was trying to do was wrong...)

MGM
08-03-2009, 10:33 AM
yep thats the winning combo

Ahnko Honu
08-03-2009, 10:36 AM
So what 'ukulele is #11? :confused:

smithpaul60
08-03-2009, 10:38 AM
I see what happened,
Vahn actually had six right on his first post not 5.

Oh well fun times, I say we do it again.

ukerazy
08-03-2009, 10:40 AM
So what 'ukulele is #11? :confused:

Kanilea, b-e-a-utiful!

vahn
08-03-2009, 10:41 AM
It makes me feel better knowing on my only guess by ear (first) one I got half right, and I only got stuff wrong by 1 degree, meaning i didnt guess any solids were laminates, or vice versa. I think thats pretty good for a relative uke novice

Ahnko Honu
08-03-2009, 10:43 AM
Kanilea, b-e-a-utiful!

Found it in other post. At least most of us can clearly hear the best. :D:shaka:
#2 was a surprise.

ukeatan
08-03-2009, 12:12 PM
i believe uke eaten was the first to get it right if anybody can show me an earlier one let me know quick otherwise its UKEEATON DA WINNER...I don;t have time to go over the whole post...See the next thread for the results

Woot! :D Thanks for the fun challenge MGM, both the ear training challenge and then the logic problem, hahah...

DeG
08-03-2009, 03:54 PM
I call foul! I was racking my brain based on bad info:( oh well, at least I know that I'm not crazy...I need to go get some Rogain now, as I've pulled out most of my hair. :D
Hints were:


T L T S L S S
S T L T T T T
L L L L S L L
L T L L S L S
S T S L S S
S S L S L T
T T T S T T
S S S S T S
T L L L S S
S T S S T L
S S S S S S
L T T S S S

5 5 3 6 6 4 3

Actual result:


0 1 0 0 1 0 0
0 1 0 1 1 1 1
1 1 1 1 0 1 1
0 0 0 0 1 0 1
0 1 0 0 0 0
1 1 0 1 0 0
0 0 0 1 0 0
0 0 0 0 1 0
1 0 0 0 0 0
1 0 1 1 0 0
1 1 1 1 1 1
1 0 0 0 0 0

6 6 3 6 5 3 3

MGM
08-03-2009, 04:23 PM
hey...you guys were supposed to use your ears..not math and logic to figure it out....So basicaly you want to buy on looks and your wallet rather than sound LOL let me see one dollar plus another and compared to that what the other guy said on a thread and the ad looked so nice....

Melissa82
08-03-2009, 04:31 PM
I'm just glad my second fave was a $100 or so Makala. :D

vahn
08-03-2009, 04:36 PM
were just sad we didnt win...

DeG
08-03-2009, 04:37 PM
Well, the point of the contest was to show us how subtle the difference in sound really is, right? So, I learned quickly that I could not tell the difference..and figured I better run the hints through an excel spreadsheet, cause that's the only way to figure out the answer...:D

I'm not really complaining, I had a lot of fun with it.

Hey, how about next you see if we can tell the differnce between a banjo uke, a reso and regular...but I get to guess first...:D

Thanks, Mike!

kissing
08-03-2009, 06:43 PM
Here's my entry:
1 Kala mango tenor laminate
2 Ohana laminate maple sides and solid sprucetop
3 Makala tenor all laminate
4 Pono pto
5 Kala flame maple tenor laminate with solid sprucetop
6 Lanikai solid mango tenor
7 Ohana solid rosewood with cedartop
8 Kala travel thinbody tenor mahogany lamninate with sprucetop
9 Ohana mahogany laminate with solid mahogany top Tk-20
10 Kala solid rosewood with cedartop tenor
11 Kanilea K-1 Koa tenor
12 New Kala all laminate flame mahogany with pickup

Do I win? :D

Lori
08-03-2009, 07:47 PM
Here's my entry:
1 Kala mango tenor laminate
2 Ohana laminate maple sides and solid sprucetop
3 Makala tenor all laminate
4 Pono pto
5 Kala flame maple tenor laminate with solid sprucetop
6 Lanikai solid mango tenor
7 Ohana solid rosewood with cedartop
8 Kala travel thinbody tenor mahogany lamninate with sprucetop
9 Ohana mahogany laminate with solid mahogany top Tk-20
10 Kala solid rosewood with cedartop tenor
11 Kanilea K-1 Koa tenor
12 New Kala all laminate flame mahogany with pickup

Do I win? :D

Where was the list posted? Somehow I can't find it. Am I missing something? Is this really final line-up?

–Lori

pamelamama
08-03-2009, 07:53 PM
Where was the list posted? Somehow I can't find it. Am I missing something? Is this really final line-up?

–Lori

Yes, Lori that is it -- it is posted in another thread!

Edited to add the link:
http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17146

Lori
08-03-2009, 08:04 PM
Yes, Lori that is it -- it is posted in another thread!

Edited to add the link:
http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17146
Thanks

I guess "The Ugly Truth" title didn't clue me in enough after a 12 hour work day. Glad to see all my energy toward the Kanilea wasn't wasted! Still like to hear the concert size, gloss with Worth clears on it!

–Lori

ichadwick
08-04-2009, 01:24 AM
I picked:
I posted this for the challenge:

1. laminiate
2. Solid
3. Laminate
4. Solid
5. Laminate
6. Solid
7. Soild
8. Solid
9. Laminate
10. Laminate
11. Solid
12. Solid

Number 9 I waffled on, and might have said solid, but decided it was still a bit thin in the second half. I picked laminate first for number eight, but changed it to solid in the second half. But that's eight out of 12 - a pass, I suppose, but not an 'A'.

It's a fun challenge, but not very scientific. We know nothing about his recording equipment, recording environment or even if the ukes are played at the same distance from the mic each time. Second, is each uke the same age? or been played as long as one another? Are they all sopranos?

kissing
08-04-2009, 02:57 AM
bah! my plan has been foiled T_T

Oh well.. I'll just have to earn ukes the honest (and hard) way :(

smithpaul60
08-04-2009, 03:07 AM
hey...you guys were supposed to use your ears..not math and logic to figure it out....So basicaly you want to buy on looks and your wallet rather than sound LOL let me see one dollar plus another and compared to that what the other guy said on a thread and the ad looked so nice....

don't worry MGM your point was well made.
i don't think any of those that participated are going to think the same next time UAS kicks in. After awhile we just realized that it was futile to attempt a pure guess each time and decided to have fun another way.

Let's do it again.

Ahnko Honu
08-04-2009, 09:04 AM
I think the number of each type of 'ukulele should have been the only hint allowed without progress reports of guesses already made, and only one entry allowed per person. This would have made people more willing to listen to the differences instead guessing from the clues of past guesses. I think it would have made for a more interesting contest.

Dino
08-04-2009, 08:46 PM
Here are my guesses:

1)laminate
2)solid
3)solid
4)solid
5)laminate
6)laminate
7)solid
8)laminate
9)solid
10)solid
11)laminate
12)solid

UkuLeLesReggAe
08-05-2009, 12:02 AM
I think the number of each type of 'ukulele should have been the only hint allowed without progress reports of guesses already made, and only one entry allowed per person. This would have made people more willing to listen to the differences instead guessing from the clues of past guesses. I think it would have made for a more interesting contest.

im pretty sure most people were relying on their ears than other peoples past posts. like me for example, even though i would have more of a chance putting clues together...

Ahnko Honu
08-05-2009, 07:12 AM
im pretty sure most people were relying on their ears than other peoples past posts. like me for example, even though i would have more of a chance putting clues together...

From reading the posts most people stopped listening after their first entry, even MGM saw and commented on it.

ichadwick
08-05-2009, 07:20 AM
From reading the posts most people stopped listening after their first entry, even MGM saw and commented on it.
Never thought of trying to cheat by reading other responses. Must be that I'm naive. I tend to respond to the first post in a thread, then read the answers others have posted.

I actually got into this challenge via the Toronto Ukes forum, where a link was posted.

I can't see much point in trying to guess the answers from other posts. It's like cheating at solitaire. Sure you win, but so what? I was more interested in whether I could actually hear a difference - a bit like a blind wine or tequila tasting. The results are then fodder for more conversation and debate.

Ahnko Honu
08-05-2009, 07:28 AM
I think too many had the goal of winning the 'ukulele the motivating factor instead of seeing this as a true learning experience. Good analogy about wine tasting.

Melissa82
08-05-2009, 07:39 AM
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what point you guys are trying to make. Are you saying everyone was cheating? Is this thread really going to come down to something like that?

puremarkska
08-05-2009, 08:04 AM
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what point you guys are trying to make. Are you saying everyone was cheating? Is this thread really going to come down to something like that?

I think the point was this: if you line up a bunch of ukes side by side in a blind sound test, NO ONE will be able to tell which one is which with 100% accuracy ... unless some level of cheating is involved.

This realization by itself should serve to completely change anyone's preconceptions of ukulele value, as far as sound is concerned. On that note, I liked the Lanikai Mango. :p I always thought that wood was all show and no go!

Skrik
08-05-2009, 08:20 AM
If I was cheating, I think I would have done better than 1 correct.

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Edited: On reflection, perhaps I'm just a lousy cheat.

Ahnko Honu
08-05-2009, 10:59 AM
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what point you guys are trying to make. Are you saying everyone was cheating? Is this thread really going to come down to something like that?

I never said anyone was cheating, what I said was that many lost the whole point of the contest focusing on the prize an desire to win instead of focusing on the reason for the contest, they used their math skills or process of elimination based on how others answered, and additional clues instead of listening carefully with their own ears. Somebody would have eventually won with their one and only entry which would have made the contest more interesting, to me anyways. I think MGM brought the point home that most people pick there 'ukuleles according to what others hear and say, and not on their own hearing which should be a deciding factor.

Ken Middleton's Aquila versus Worth strings "contest" did not have a prize so I feel kept people focused on the purpose. Both were great learning experiences. Mahalo to both Ken and Mike.

Melissa82
08-05-2009, 11:00 AM
I don't see where it says there was a prize for this challenge... maybe I just missed it.

Ahnko Honu
08-05-2009, 11:14 AM
I don't see where it says there was a prize for this challenge... maybe I just missed it.


I will be posting 2 videos that are blacked out of 12 ukuleles...All Tenors..Brands from Kala Lanikai Pono Ohana and Kanilea. Can you tell just from sound which is all laminate, which is laminate solid top and which are all solid???? hmmmmm I Bet you will find it harder than you think. These are all strung with aquila all plain High g tuning and all are played in the same manner with no alteration to recordings......

First person to name all the construction correctly will win a free Kala Ka-t w case.....



.......... ;)

DeG
08-05-2009, 11:44 AM
I listened once and then went to the statistical approach. Of course, you should use all available information to find the solution to the puzzle. That's not cheating. As far as the point of the contest, I got that from listening one time, and it was a valuable lesson...Aquila strings make a Kanile'a sound like a Mahalo:D Just kidding.

I think the lesson is: Taking into consideration for the sound quality of YT, there is not a huge difference in sound between laminate and solid wood, so don't turn your nose up at a uke just because it is not solid. Laminate is more durable, and cheaper, so hey, if you like the looks of it, then go for it. No need to go months ukeless while your saving up for a Kamaka, get a uke that is within your means, or get a couple differnent cheaper ukes, no matter... just get a uke and enjoy!



(but you're still gonna get more girls playing a Kamaka....:nana:)