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ukuleG
09-11-2009, 05:31 AM
I've had a tenor kala mango for about 3 weeks and i just can't seem to get use to the difference between concert and tenor and my playing is really sloppy. i really don't know if i should get rid of it or somehow trade it for a concert or smaller, its a bit of a hassle as I'm very short on cash atm, any ideas or tips to maybe help improve.

the.ronin
09-11-2009, 05:33 AM
Try playing some other tenors at a local shop for starters and see if your opinion remains. Also try switching to other strings. If your opinion still remains, you may send the tenor to me so it no longer bothers you. Im a good friend, I know. :D

ukerazy
09-11-2009, 06:16 AM
If your opinion still remains, you may send the tenor to me so it no longer bothers you. Im a good friend, I know. :D

Dude, you need help... the UAS is taking over you!

Ukeffect
09-11-2009, 06:31 AM
I've had a tenor kala mango for about 3 weeks and i just can't seem to get use to the difference between concert and tenor and my playing is really sloppy. i really don't know if i should get rid of it or somehow trade it for a concert or smaller, its a bit of a hassle as I'm very short on cash atm, any ideas or tips to maybe help improve.
Dude this is very serious...I hate to see someone lose the ability to play, I will make the supreme sacrifice and let you send it to me! I have a barely used Oscar Schmidt concert w/hard case that I would be willing to trade even!
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generem
09-11-2009, 06:33 AM
Give it some time... I used to also find it harder to play tenors than Concert but my fingers got use to it :).

russ_buss
09-11-2009, 06:38 AM
you don't "have" to play a tenor if it doesn't suit you. i gave up my tenor long ago and stick to sopranos and concerts now. play whatever you're comfortable with.

ukuleG
09-11-2009, 06:43 AM
its ok i still have another ukulele to play its just my upgrade wasn't so much an upgrade as i just dont seem to like playing it. (thought i would get use to it when i first tried it out.)

Kmetzger
09-11-2009, 07:12 AM
I've had a tenor kala mango for about 3 weeks and i just can't seem to get use to the difference between concert and tenor and my playing is really sloppy. i really don't know if i should get rid of it or somehow trade it for a concert or smaller, its a bit of a hassle as I'm very short on cash atm, any ideas or tips to maybe help improve.

What exactly is making it difficult or unsatisfying? Is the action much higher? Do the strings feel "tighter"? Do you have any wound strings on the tenor where you don't on your concert? Is the neck feel much wider? Or is it due to the greater spacing between frets and having to stretch your fingers further?

Some of this stuff you can do something about right away (like action and strings). Some you'll have to get used to and you can over time.

When I first picked up the Ukulele, it was a soprano. After playing guitar all my life, going to something that small was difficult. But I got used to it pretty quickly. Then after getting used to the soprano and getting a tenor a few months later, I found that cumbersome - and had to adjust to all the differences - but now it's no problem.

Ultimately though if you're enjoying your concert and you think the tenor is a hassle, then go in the direction that feels good.

ukuleG
09-11-2009, 07:19 AM
i would say the spacing oh the frets and the strings even though i have my concert strung with aquilas aswell, no wound string.

mrplatypus70
09-11-2009, 07:27 AM
I would give it more time before deciding it is not for you. I started on guitar so when I played a soprano uke it felt really weird. Now I play ukulele more so when I pick up a guitar it feels strange at first. I think the key is not to over think it, just play and relax and it will become comfortable.

fergs1
09-11-2009, 07:31 AM
Greetings, I know your pain. I bought a hamano tenor and had the same experience. I put some baritone tuning tenor strings (high d) and been enjoying it heaps for its different range. Give it a try, you might like it.
cheers fergs

Kmetzger
09-11-2009, 09:50 AM
I would give it more time before deciding it is not for you. I started on guitar so when I played a soprano uke it felt really weird. Now I play ukulele more so when I pick up a guitar it feels strange at first. I think the key is not to over think it, just play and relax and it will become comfortable.

I agree. Give it some time. (And re the guitar comment above: I played the guitar most of my life. But after a short time with the ukulele (during which I haven't played the guitar at all) when i now pick up a guitar it feels like I'm in the land of the giants - so massive in my hands. Woe! Something that felt like part of me now feels unwieldy.

RevWill
09-11-2009, 10:00 AM
I play guitar and bass along with ukes (soprano, tenor, bari). After a lot of practicing I can now switch comfortably between them. Thing is, I have to think of them as being different instruments. I have a different approach to soprano than tenor, to tenor than bari, etc.

If you love the sound of that tenor and are determined to get used to it, you might need to put your other ukes away for a while and only play the tenor until you get used to it. Soon enough it will start to feel natural, then you can start switching.

Spooner
09-11-2009, 10:01 AM
its ok i still have another ukulele to play its just my upgrade wasn't so much an upgrade as i just dont seem to like playing it. (thought i would get use to it when i first tried it out.)

Perhaps if i styarted off on a soprano or concert then I would be saying the same thing.

I started on a tenor and they are all that I feel comfortable playing.
It took some getting used to after playing guitar and bass for so long but I am now playing the uke exclusively....a tenor.

Whenever I play a soprano or concert it feels wrong to me. It would take some getting used to...and I just don't invest the time.

You and I are at opposite ends where uke size is concerned but it would only take a little getting used to is all.

For me...tenors are the megdizzle shizzle nizzle.

Bluke
09-11-2009, 10:23 AM
I'm surprised to hear that. I play tenor and concert all the time, and I don't even notice the difference, they are so close in size. The answer is as always....just play more, and switch between them more often.

mailman
09-11-2009, 11:51 AM
I had a guitar background, and chose a concert for my first uke. I did not find the size difference to be much of a problem. Not long after that I bought a soprano. There's where I really felt a difference size-wise. It felt very cramped at first (although that has diminished some with time).

That experience has lead me to believe I should try a tenor. I still think the concert is okay-sized for me, and the soprano still feels a bit too small....I'm wondering if a tenor would feel "just right". (I'm starting to sound like a uke-centric Goldilocks, here).

Someday I'll get my hands on a tenor to try, and find out if that's what I "need" next....

freedive135
09-11-2009, 12:50 PM
My .02

Put down the concert for a couple weeks and just play the Tenor get used to it then switch back and forth to really see if it makes a difference.

I'll play a song on the soprano then play the same song on a tenor with out any trouble but it took a while.

My problem is now I am learning to play guitar and man those things are huge and the strings are to close together.

Ahnko Honu
09-11-2009, 11:56 PM
Yah, I too rarely pick up my tenor preferring my sopranos, and concerts. I think I will ban myself from my sopranos, and concerts and give my tenor more time.

HaileISela
09-12-2009, 01:32 AM
I second everything the others said about getting used to it by playing more often. and I would suggest you try different strings. there's a huge difference in the feel when the string tension is not as high as with the aquilas...

what I would not recommend is to just say it's not the fitting thing for you. maybe in a few years you'll get a tenor, play it and think: wow, why didn't I start to play that earlier???^^

Lanark
09-12-2009, 04:53 AM
you don't "have" to play a tenor if it doesn't suit you. i gave up my tenor long ago and stick to sopranos and concerts now. play whatever you're comfortable with.

This.

It's not required that you play a tenor if you don't like it. Not every instrument or scale is a good fit for everyone. Go with what feels right for you.

micromue
09-12-2009, 05:35 AM
Picked up a tenor once. Totally disliked it. Dropped it and never touched one again. Conclusio: Im a dumbass, but Im a happy dumbass.

Seriously. Life is too short to waste time on compromises. If tenor size doesnt appeal to you immediately there is no point in persisting. You would recognize it instantaneous, if tenors where made for you!

PattyD
09-12-2009, 07:50 AM
I understand the "hard string" feeling, as the strings on my concert feel perfect and comfortable but the tenor I'm contemplating has strings that feel "hard" and hurt my fingers. What makes them feel "hard" and what's the solution?

Kmetzger
09-12-2009, 07:57 AM
I understand the "hard string" feeling, as the strings on my concert feel perfect and comfortable but the tenor I'm contemplating has strings that feel "hard" and hurt my fingers. What makes them feel "hard" and what's the solution?

What strings are you using? And what gauge?

Aquila's tenor strings can feel hard. While Worth's tenor strings - which are made from a different material and a smaller gauge, can feel "softer".

PattyD
09-12-2009, 08:15 AM
What strings are you using? And what gauge?

Aquila's tenor strings can feel hard. While Worth's tenor strings - which are made from a different material and a smaller gauge, can feel "softer".

I have Aquila on my concert. They're great. Had them put on immediately replacing the GHS that came on it.

The tenor I'm looking at also has Aquila's. Gauge? No idea. Wound C, which I don't like at all.

The only thing that's kept me from buying it is that hardness, I've been concerned it's a tenor "trait" from the tension of it being a longer instrument. I'd hate to invest the bucks and not ever enjoy the feeling of it under my fingers.

ichadwick
09-12-2009, 08:22 AM
I've had a tenor kala mango for about 3 weeks and i just can't seem to get use to the difference between concert and tenor and my playing is really sloppy.
Is your concert also a Kala? Kala's have a somewhat narrower neck at the nut, so it can take some practice to getting used to fingering in the smaller space.

Me, I much prefer tenors and have sold all my concert ukes, and am thinking about selling my two remaining sopranos, in order to get more tenors.

Kmetzger
09-12-2009, 08:31 AM
I have Aquila on my concert. They're great. Had them put on immediately replacing the GHS that came on it.

The tenor I'm looking at also has Aquila's. Gauge? No idea. Wound C, which I don't like at all.

The only thing that's kept me from buying it is that hardness, I've been concerned it's a tenor "trait" from the tension of it being a longer instrument. I'd hate to invest the bucks and not ever enjoy the feeling of it under my fingers.

The Aquila's on your tenor are probably a heavier guage than those on your concert, which is why even though they're the same brand, you aren't comfortable with them.

I'd switch the tenor to Worths. (When I got my Moore Bettah, I removed the Aquila's and went to Worth's, for reasons including what you're experiencing.)

Here is the regular Worth tenor set: http://elderly.com/accessories/items/WSCT.htm

Or you could go to the larger and higher tension (which I use and still find very comfortable compared to the Aquilas): http://elderly.com/accessories/items/WSCH.htm

Both of these sets are high G. And do not have the wound C, which I hate (both in terms of how it feels and sounds.) Worth of course also makes low G sets, which Elderly.com also sells.

PattyD
09-12-2009, 08:43 AM
The Aquila's on your tenor are probably a heavier guage than those on your concert, which is why even though they're the same brand, you aren't comfortable with them.

I'd switch the tenor to Worths. (When I got my Moore Bettah, I removed the Aquila's and went to Worth's, for reasons including what you're experiencing.)

Here is the regular Worth tenor set: http://elderly.com/accessories/items/WSCT.htm

Or you could go to the larger and higher tension (which I use and still find very comfortable compared to the Aquilas): http://elderly.com/accessories/items/WSCH.htm

Both of these sets are high G. And do not have the wound C, which I hate (both in terms of how it feels and sounds.) Worth of course also makes low G sets, which Elderly.com also sells.

Why do you use a higher tension? Is there any kind of benefit (sound, etc) to them besides just personal comfort preference?

Kmetzger
09-12-2009, 09:37 AM
Why do you use a higher tension? Is there any kind of benefit (sound, etc) to them besides just personal comfort preference?

Little larger gauge. And feel less sloppy, wobbly. If you're doing lots of strumming primarily, you may not mind the lower tension. The strings are relatively cheap, so you may want to order a couple different sets and try them out.

nikolo727
09-12-2009, 12:10 PM
its going to sound annoying, but you just need to practice. transitioning isnt always easy, but if you just practice enough it will be natural. Now that I have been playing for a while I can go from a soprano to tenor to baritone to guitar easilly. you will be able to too. it just takes time.

ukulele2544
09-12-2009, 12:13 PM
I think a tenor is better, it has more frets then a concert, and easeir to play

ukuleG
09-12-2009, 12:25 PM
well i don't have problems with going from uke to guitar its just tenor. i mean i don't know if i should stick with it if i dont enjoy it as much, i really dunno.

Link
09-12-2009, 12:51 PM
To each their own. If you don't like the tenor scale as much, then you don't. And that's totally okay!

Boozelele
09-12-2009, 08:44 PM
Its admirable that you are considering going back and sticking to concert, or soprano....most of us want all of them, and want them all now. That said I have three tenors, and play them the most...but that doesn't mean that I don't need a pineapple, and a new soprano, and another concert, and a baritone.....I just PREFER the tenor. (oh, and I am looking at another tenor too).

Lori
09-12-2009, 09:26 PM
It's all part of the fun of ukuleles. So many sizes and fabrications. Eventually, you will find the combination(s) that is perfect for you and the songs you play. Not only do the different sizes feel different when you play them, they sound different. Perhaps you are reacting to the sound as well as the spacing of the frets. If you like the sound of the tenor, keep at practicing it a little longer. But, maybe it sounds too much like a guitar for you. My mango kala is very guitar-like in sound. A spruce top tenor would sound different. But there is no reason to force any size on yourself if you don't enjoy it. Maybe you can make a trade with another UU member.

Lori