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ukulelegal
12-04-2009, 03:07 AM
I can read music BUTit's very hard for me. I have trouble distinguishing the notes...they all blur...I have to sit down and write the corresponding letters in order to keep it straight...

I think it's just me because I have trouble when I chart for work and it's the same thing, having to follow a line across...

Weird thing is I can read tab without a problem...any thoughts/advice/commiseration? :p

nohandles
12-04-2009, 03:17 AM
Since I've gotten older I practically need a million watt flood light to see all the notes to read music but for some reason tab is okay. I've given up and just tab most things out now especially for classical. Doug

ukulelegal
12-04-2009, 03:25 AM
maybe tab is easier because it has 4 lines and no ledger lines....I wish I had a magic wand that would convert standard music to tab...that would be sweet..:D

nohandles
12-04-2009, 03:32 AM
Just thought, I'll bet if we look we can find some software that can convert to tab.

ukulelegal
12-04-2009, 03:34 AM
I was wondering about that...but how would that work? Would you just enter the notes and it would convert it to tab?

nohandles
12-04-2009, 03:41 AM
I haven't any idea. I'll look today when I have some time later on.

nohandles
12-04-2009, 03:51 AM
http://www.finalemusic.com/printmusic/?AID=10572549&PID=3353204

I just remember reading this very question on the talkbass forum some time ago.
Just looked it up real quick and actually found this.

Doug

ukulelegal
12-04-2009, 03:56 AM
Oh! That's really cool! But not exactly what I was thinking...
hmmm I will keep looking...I wish I was a software developer...I have several ideas that would make some money...;)

retrozombi
12-04-2009, 05:14 AM
I am a software developer. I started working on a program for this, then bought Finale. :)

Ahnko Honu
12-04-2009, 05:32 AM
I can't read notes nor tabs, just chords. :rolleyes:

DaveVisi
12-04-2009, 05:42 AM
I have the same problem. My eyes get lost in all those parallel lines and by the time I figure out where I am in the score I've lost my place elsewhere.

There are plenty of tab programs out there, some better than others. Finale and Sibelius both have scanner plugins that allow you to scan a sheet of music and convert it to computer format. After that, with some work you can add a TAB staff and drag the notes onto it. They have some basic rules to follow like clustering the numbers together so you don't have 5 fret stretches and things like that. Once it's done you can drag the TAB notes you don't like to another string line and the number changes accordingly.

If you don't want to spend the big bucks for Finale or Sibelius, there are other cheaper programs out there. Powertab, Tabledit, Musedit are three of the better ones. They all have the basic functionality but without all the bells and whistles of the professional layout programs.

Lori
12-04-2009, 05:59 AM
I have been using Guitar Pro 5. It works great for making tabs and notation at the same time, and you can add lyrics and chord diagrams. I just wish you could control the size of the diagrams and fonts more. I would like to make them bigger. I suppose I could try to enlarge them a bit in the print- out settings. Haven't attempted that yet.

If anyone wants a 25% discount on Guitar Pro 5, I got an email coupon good for one use which will expire on Dec 31. The first to PM their email to me will get it if they're interested. It is only good for one use, so only ask if you are planning on using it.

–Lori

SailorQwest
12-04-2009, 06:00 AM
I think it's just me because I have trouble when I chart for work and it's the same thing, having to follow a line across...

:p

I have the same prob. I once got a job where they tried to get me to count the lines between two dots... Couldn't do it. Maybe I should try learning to read tabs.

ukulelegal
12-04-2009, 02:33 PM
I am a software developer. I started working on a program for this, then bought Finale. :)

Never heard of it... :p No seriously...never heard of it but now that I have I will check it out. btw if you hooked me up with a free copy I'd be glad to write a review and post it on my pages. :D

ukulelegal
12-04-2009, 02:35 PM
I thought I was going nuts... :) it's nice to know I have company. Thanks for the software suggestions I will check them out.

DaveVisi
12-05-2009, 07:42 AM
Uhh, last time I checked Finale was about $500. Not likely a free copy will be finding it's way to you any time soon. :cool:

The other choices are much more affordable, especially if you're not a professional music publisher.

ukulelegal
12-05-2009, 11:23 AM
500!? yeah...I don't think I will be getting that anytime too soon.

franulele
12-05-2009, 11:49 AM
There are several Finale products, ranging from Finale NotePad ($9.95 download) which does TAB for Guitar & Bass only, to the full featured Finale which goes for $600 (educators can get it for about half, sometimes bundled with Band In A Box, look for deals before & after Christmas). I have Finale 2009 which does TAB for many fretted instruments & can be adjusted for non standard tunings. Finale Website (http://www.finalemusic.com/PrintMusic/features/gettingstarted/setupwizard.aspx)

Finale Allegro is one step down from the full featured version, and appears to do TAB and chords grids for many fretted instruments, including Ukulele. It goe for $199. Finale Allegro (http://www.finalemusic.com/allegro/features/markingslyrics/tabandfretboards.aspx)

Are there any UUers that have used Finale Allegro for Uke TABs who can weigh in on this notation software?

Pippin
12-05-2009, 11:50 AM
Never heard of it... :p No seriously...never heard of it but now that I have I will check it out. btw if you hooked me up with a free copy I'd be glad to write a review and post it on my pages. :D

You never know...

A lot depends on the contacts that you make with companies. I have written several software reviews over the years, but I was also editor-in-chief of a computer magazine years ago and I have written over 1000 published articles and five books. So, I have some connections.

If you meet with the right marketing people, there are ways that you can get opportunities, but, it also takes a significant amount of traffic for someone to consider giving you the deal.

ukulelegal
12-05-2009, 11:53 AM
199$ that's better...but I still think for now I will just do it the hard way...tab sheets and a pencil. I need a travel uke more at this point...going to Grand Canyon in May and know that there is no way I can survive 10 days without a uke!!! :eek:

ukulelegal
12-05-2009, 11:55 AM
You never know...

A lot depends on the contacts that you make with companies. I have written several software reviews over the years, but I was also editor-in-chief of a computer magazine years ago and I have written over 1000 published articles and five books. So, I have some connections.

If you meet with the right marketing people, there are ways that you can get opportunities, but, it also takes a significant amount of traffic for someone to consider giving you the deal.

The traffic might be an issue...at least for now. I am a newbie to all the myspace/facebook/ukulele maybe in a year or two...

MisoHappy
12-05-2009, 12:43 PM
I can also read music, but it takes me FOREVER. I have to think really hard. I sometimes start counting and saying letters out loud. :P

You can say reading music just isn't my thing.

Now tabs, those are much easier

Skrik
12-06-2009, 01:14 AM
Easy solution: eye test. Sounds like you need reading glasses.

ukantor
12-06-2009, 01:56 AM
I didn't want to be the first to suggest it - but now that Skrik has opened the subject, yes, I'd definitely advise a visit to the optician. I was having some difficulty with close work recently, and it turned out that I need reading glasses - that's all.

I mentioned to the optician that I had much less trouble in very strong light, and he explained that in strong light your pupils contract, and that makes it easier for your eyes to focus sharply. In poor or medium light, the pupils are wider, and this makes the focus less precise. Reading glasses help your eyes to focus at close distance. I find them very helpful.

I still can't sight read musical notation- but at least the lines and dots are clear, and those tadpoles (polliwogs) don't swim about!

John Colter.

ukulelegal
12-06-2009, 02:42 AM
Easy solution: eye test. Sounds like you need reading glasses.

lol...i already have glasses! but I do have this weird(rare) thing where my eyes don't line up right when I look at things...my glasses are supposed to be correcting for that but maybe I need a new perscription....

ukantor
12-06-2009, 03:01 AM
Can you get a Braille version of musical notation?:stop:

Sorry - that was bad taste! I take it back. I didn't say that. I was misquoted.

Ukantor.

ukulelegal
12-06-2009, 03:21 AM
lol...I don't think the calluses from playing uke would be good for reading braille...that and i would need a second set of hands to "read" the music while I played...that would be something to see huh? :p

Rick
12-06-2009, 11:12 AM
I can read music. Writing on the paper just makes it worse -_- it's not helping you by translating on paper. You should be able to read it straight up, no problem. Keep writing on the music if you have to, but don't make it a habit.

dave g
12-06-2009, 12:58 PM
I wish I was a software developer...I have several ideas that would make some money...;)

As a software developer, I advise you to keep the day job until that money actually materializes ;)

ukulelegal
12-06-2009, 01:15 PM
As a software developer, I advise you to keep the day job until that money actually materializes ;)

Good to know... :p

MoreUke
12-06-2009, 06:05 PM
TablEdit I found to be amazing software. You can go to the website and download a free trial. http://www.tabledit.com/

Have a Great Day,
Jim

ukulelegal
12-07-2009, 03:08 AM
TablEdit I found to be amazing software. You can go to the website and download a free trial. http://www.tabledit.com/

Have a Great Day,
Jim

Thanks Jim! I appreciate everyone's generosity in sharing information. I love UU.