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eculuke
12-21-2009, 03:11 PM
Ok I think I solved the problem of padding, I wasnt real happy with the padding on the first prototypes as it didnt look as clean as I wanted it to. So here is what I came up with. I am pretty happy with it. What do you guys think?

leftovermagic84
12-21-2009, 03:22 PM
these look outstanding! great job

eculuke
12-21-2009, 03:26 PM
As soon as I get a consensus from everybody, I will get a list and start my first batch of 10 @ $10 shipped.

eculuke
12-21-2009, 04:06 PM
can you guys give input?

Amnicon
12-21-2009, 04:10 PM
Any worries about the impact of the padding on the finish?
I know that the rubber used on some of these things will eat away the finish of the instrument.

I like the wood...

psesinkclee
12-21-2009, 04:11 PM
Looks fantastic!

PaulGeo
12-21-2009, 05:31 PM
Looks much cleaner... I'll take 2 :).

Ronnie Aloha
12-21-2009, 07:50 PM
I've seen simple leather coverings that probably won't affect the finish. They were just a looped piece of leather with an unfinished sewn end that looped over the prongs.

eculuke
12-22-2009, 01:53 AM
The foam I used is pretty soft and shouldnt effect the finish

Link
12-22-2009, 03:00 AM
I can't wait to order some. They look fantastic!

Doc_J
12-22-2009, 03:11 AM
Will the foam wear a hole after a while?

I'd pay more for leather around the support arms, as Ronnie suggested.

spazus_maximus
12-22-2009, 03:17 AM
Look Great...Id gladly take 4 or 5 of em....My girlfriend was just complaining last night about the ukes layin round the kitchen!

ukBuffet
12-22-2009, 03:52 AM
These look great! How can I buy these? Did you say you were only going to make 10? Is that all you will ever make or are you going to continue to make them? I would pay at 15-20 for leather bound hangers. Will you be offering these too?

eculuke
12-22-2009, 03:53 AM
I really dont think they will wear down.....but I will go back to the drawing board. I am having trouble visualizing how the leather would provide good padding. These are designed that to insert the uke neck in sideways and twist. Once in they are coming out. Its very cushy poly foam. I have experimented with other materials, and some have been stronger, just not as clean looking. I prefer functionality but if you are selling things they need to look clean. So far this latest foam is by far the cleanest looking. I would offer free refinishing if the hangers it the foam got damaged.

nohandles
12-22-2009, 04:11 AM
I think they are great looking. I would like 3 or 4 myself. One caution: some of the poly foam will react with lacquer finishes and leave discoloration in the finish. I've had 2 different companies stands and hangers discolor the wood on my instruments. There is no way to get the color out accept to refinish.
Keep up the great work,
Doug

eculuke
12-22-2009, 04:27 AM
Im am not really sure what to use then....I cant really see this doing that but I could be wrong. I think I will limit people to one per on the first order to make sure they are happy and offer full refund if not happy. I think these are good low cost alternatives to whats out on the market.

bazmaz
12-22-2009, 04:41 AM
you need to check on the type of foam - the earlier post is correct- certain foams will damage the varnish on necks. It needs to be nitro safe, or better still, cloth covered, or not foam at all.

Shouldnt react with a new instrument, but older finishes, or very high end ukes may have a finish that will get corroded by a lot of foams.

eculuke
12-22-2009, 04:44 AM
My dilemma is adequate padding. I can use other materials but they arent as cushy as the foam. I will offer these first 10 as is, and let buyers with older or high end ukes aware of the foam concerns and in the mean time develop a better method to cover.

eculuke
12-22-2009, 05:06 AM
are you guys saying I should wrap leather clothe and stitch around the foam? I want it to be as functional as possible

Ronnie Aloha
12-22-2009, 05:08 AM
I'll stop by the shop I saw the leather padding at and take a photo if I have time.


I really dont think they will wear down.....but I will go back to the drawing board. I am having trouble visualizing how the leather would provide good padding. These are designed that to insert the uke neck in sideways and twist. Once in they are coming out. Its very cushy poly foam. I have experimented with other materials, and some have been stronger, just not as clean looking. I prefer functionality but if you are selling things they need to look clean. So far this latest foam is by far the cleanest looking. I would offer free refinishing if the hangers it the foam got damaged.

eculuke
12-22-2009, 05:10 AM
So they actually have leather with padding built in? I will check all my stores too

eculuke
12-22-2009, 05:49 AM
I thinking of trying Tennis Racket overgrip Wrap. just kicking around a ton of ideas

Ronnie Aloha
12-22-2009, 09:49 AM
So they actually have leather with padding built in? I will check all my stores too

I went to my uke shop and asked if he had extra leather sleeves to sell and he did so I bought the five that he had left. Here are the photos. The arms stick through the holes in the leather and the "Ingles" piece holds the back of the neck. Send me a PM is you want to try them out.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/RonnieTrojan/100_6761.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/RonnieTrojan/100_6762.jpg

eculuke
12-22-2009, 09:54 AM
Not what I had envisioned in my mind, but I could manage that I think...I will work on it heavily tonight!

bazmaz
12-22-2009, 09:56 AM
i'll be honest - I think you are getting too hung up on padding. For a heavy guitar, i can see the need, but ukes weigh next to nothing - the important thing is that they are held steadily, with material that wont damage the finish.

I would say that looking at the last leather piece, that is more than adequate for holding a uke steady on the wall. Leather will be slightly grippy to stop slippage anyway.

I'd say go leather, avoid foam or rubber.

eculuke
12-22-2009, 10:00 AM
Im all for leather...just trying to keep costs down as I'm trying to make these an affordable alternative for everyone as we all have ALOT of ukes that need hanging. 10 dollars was cutting it originally, I will have to scope out the leather cost. I will do my best for you guys!

ukBuffet
12-22-2009, 11:13 AM
LOL! Design by committee never works! You end up driving up cost and hurting the final product. Ship them as is I'm ready to buy 6 right now! :D

Doc_J
12-22-2009, 01:30 PM
If you are trying to bring the cost down, how about some plush velour cover over the orginal foam. This is just like a the inside of nice case. Should eliminate the finish reaction.

Could be stiched and/or glued on the foam.

Any thoughts?

Ronnie Aloha
12-22-2009, 01:42 PM
I went to my uke shop and asked if he had extra leather sleeves to sell and he did so I bought the five that he had left. Here are the photos. The arms stick through the holes in the leather and the "Ingles" piece holds the back of the neck. Send me a PM is you want to try them out.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/RonnieTrojan/100_6761.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/RonnieTrojan/100_6762.jpg

Personally, I wouldn't mind paying the extra dollar to add the leather. But that's me, the big spender!:p

Doc_J
12-22-2009, 01:49 PM
:agree::agree:

Yes, I would rather pay $5 more for a good leather padding on the holder.

Lori
12-22-2009, 03:10 PM
You might consider polar fleece as a padding for the arms. It is soft and the raw cut edges don't seem to unravel. I use cut squares as a polishing cloth in my uke cases. It would be easier to sew than leather, and much cheaper too. I don't know if it has anything in it that would discolor uke finishes though. I know some vinyls and foams have that problem, so you would have to check with someone about that.

–Lori

eculuke
12-22-2009, 05:13 PM
I think I have my answer after 4 hours of work, I will post pictures soon.

Luke

eculuke
12-22-2009, 08:38 PM
see the latest...I covered the foam with a felt like material and also replaced the caps with wooden balls. looking for opinions?

seeso
12-23-2009, 02:03 AM
I love the look of the wooden balls! The felt-like material isn't doing it for me, though. Looks messy.

eculuke
12-23-2009, 02:49 AM
actually it looks pretty clean...I am super nit picky about being clean. its hard to capture it with pictures

eculuke
12-23-2009, 03:26 AM
I am going to offer 2 options. The felt material option and foam options (for those who dont care). Basically from the minor research I have done, the foam only reacts with Nitrocellulose lacquer, and I think thats only used on higher end ukes. So some with lower ends might be ok with the foam version at $10.

Ronnie Aloha
12-23-2009, 04:14 AM
Good job! I think we have a winner.

eculuke
12-23-2009, 04:38 AM
I guess I should do the sale thread for the original 10 in the martketplace?

eculuke
12-23-2009, 05:36 AM
If your interested in getting some on the first run, please PM me $10 shipped

seeso
12-23-2009, 06:05 AM
I guess I should do the sale thread for the original 10 in the martketplace?

Yeah, go ahead and post a thread in the Marketplace.