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liquidtrends
02-16-2010, 06:28 AM
Hello,

I am new to the ukulele, and I enjoy trying to learn new songs. This board has been great help as well.

I am currently looking for someone to do some video tutorials on basic ukulele chords etc. These will be sold online as a package, to help others who are interested in learning the instrument. If you have experience with this and are interested, please feel free to contact me ryan -at- liquidtrends .com

russ_buss
02-16-2010, 06:37 AM
there are many free tutorials on youtube as well as UU. just a thought.

liquidtrends
02-16-2010, 06:45 AM
I am looking to sell them, so I cannot use anything from youtube.


there are many free tutorials on youtube as well as UU. just a thought.

deach
02-16-2010, 06:59 AM
I am looking to sell them, so I cannot use anything from youtube.

Why would anyone buy something that can be found free.

liquidtrends
02-16-2010, 07:07 AM
Why would anyone buy something that can be found free.

If you sell it, they will buy. I have experience in building and selling products similar to the one I wish to develop.

People still buy recipes online!

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
02-16-2010, 07:08 AM
Why would anyone buy something that can be found free.

Exactly....

rpeters
02-16-2010, 07:20 AM
I am looking to sell them, so I cannot use anything from youtube.

True but I think he's what getting at is that, why buy them when you can get them for free on youtube? Not to ruin your business plan or anything.

Oh that's what every has said already.

rpeters
02-16-2010, 07:23 AM
I've never met anyone in my life who buys recipes online. I'm curious though, what kind of customers buy recipes online? You have an interesting concept. Its true, if you put a price on something you are therefor saying that it has value. An uneducated person, in this case, beginner ukulele player will actually think that the thing that costs money has more value than something you can get for free. Many times this isn't true, but it still sells.

Is that what you mean liquid?

deach
02-16-2010, 07:25 AM
If you sell it, they will buy. I have experience in building and selling products similar to the one I wish to develop.

People still buy recipes online!

I guess you're right. People still "buy" porn even when there's so much free porn out there. Just saying....

cerebus
02-16-2010, 07:25 AM
The other obvious question, why work for you so that you pay the player less than you sell them to others? What are you bringing to the table?

Rzr
02-16-2010, 07:25 AM
If Deach does it, I'll buy it...maybe.

liquidtrends
02-16-2010, 07:29 AM
Exactly....

In google, there are over 3,350,000 searches for the phrase "Guitar Lessons" on any given month. So, if we estimate that a fraction are willing to pay for a lesson, there is opportunity. Mind you, this is for the search term "guitar" and yes, there are alot of other sites offering the same thing. But, when you utilize search engine optimization, as well as using affiliates who make a living out of selling products such as the one I wish to do, there is room to make a few bucks.

One of my successful businesses sells website templates and does quite well. Even though there are thousands of sites that offer free templates, people are willing to pay for a product or service that is considered "premium".

For the record, I use youtube, but only because Im cheap and have alot of time to search around. ;)

liquidtrends
02-16-2010, 07:33 AM
The other obvious question, why work for you so that you pay the player less than you sell them to others? What are you bringing to the table?

Same reason I don't open up a restaurant. I can cook, but I have no experience in running a restaurant business.

If you have experience in selling products online, and can play the ukulele well, by all means you should start a business selling video tutorials!

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
02-16-2010, 07:41 AM
The niche I see you filling is for people like myself who don't have the time, patience or Internet speed to download YouTube videos. Cheap or resourceful people will search out things for free while lazy ones will want the information at their fingertips and not have to hunt for them. I still buy reference books if only for the convenience factor.
Having thought this over a bit, you may have a saleable product. I see plenty of "how to" DVDs at my local music store. As you mentioned, with Internet sales if you capture only a fraction of one percent of interested people, you've got a winner.

rpeters
02-16-2010, 07:41 AM
I agree with Liquid, there are many people that have plenty of skill but just can't seem to sell it. Selling products online is not merely listing it on ebay. Look at MGM. The reason he is one of the most successful ukulele vendors is because he prides himself on customer service. People trust him. Its not just the product he sells but how he sells it. Not people know how to do that, and that's what makes online e-commerce a success.

UKISOCIETY
02-16-2010, 07:44 AM
I guess you're right. People still "buy" porn even when there's so much free porn out there. Just saying....

Tabs, plz.


oh, wait.

liquidtrends
02-16-2010, 07:45 AM
I agree with Liquid, there are many people that have plenty of skill but just can't seem to sell it. Selling products online is not merely listing it on ebay. Look at MGM. The reason he is one of the most successful ukulele vendors is because he prides himself on customer service. People trust him. Its not just the product he sells but how he sells it. Not people know how to do that, and that's what makes online e-commerce a success.

Thanks rpeters. If I had the skill to teach, I would be doing this myself. I just recently started playing the ukulele.

rogue_wave
02-16-2010, 08:50 AM
FWIW, I just bought my sweet UU Ukulele Solos DVD from the UU store....so somebody must be buying dvd's. (Also have Ralph Shaw disc, and one from Bob Bozeman) I love me some free stuff though!

cerebus
02-16-2010, 09:02 AM
Thanks rpeters. If I had the skill to teach, I would be doing this myself. I just recently started playing the ukulele.

I realized, upon reflection, that my post was a bit harsh. To be honest, and I am not sure why, your original post rubbed me the wrong way. All that said, who I am to discourage someone from making a buck so long as it is being done honestly?

In any case, I wish you luck in putting together a product that will help others.

ricdoug
02-16-2010, 09:18 AM
FWIW, I just bought my sweet UU Ukulele Solos DVD from the UU store....so somebody must be buying dvd's. (Also have Ralph Shaw disc, and one from Bob Bozeman) I love me some free stuff though!

I have those DVD's too, Rogue Wave and many more DVD's, CD's books and novelties related to the mighty uke. There's definately a market for liquidtrends' idea. Ric

Thumper
02-16-2010, 09:29 AM
Instructional DVDs are a major - and highly useful - educational tool for learning to play musical instruments.

The ukulele culture is maybe a little anomalous in how many people have chosen to learn from snippets of free video footage, and to eschew conventional lessons, books and DVDs, but there's nothing wrong with the original poster's idea - nor his request.

ukulelearp
02-16-2010, 11:28 AM
Instructional DVDs are a major - and highly useful - educational tool for learning to play musical instruments.

The ukulele culture is maybe a little anomalous in how many people have chosen to learn from snippets of free video footage, and to eschew conventional lessons, books and DVDs, but there's nothing wrong with the original poster's idea - nor his request.


I think it's only that way because of a relative lack of materials otherwise. I only own two ukulele books, a fretboard roadmap book and a song book. When I first started I probably wouldn't have minded paying a small amount for a dvd, rather than having to search for videos all over the internet.

ambrose
02-16-2010, 11:35 AM
Everybody wants everything for free. Intellectual property has almost ceased to exist as a concept. I'm a musician and graphic designer, my wife is a journalist. These disciplines are being ravaged these days. We have an online world of enthusiastic, but not necessarily competent folks happily giving away their work for free to whoever wants it. Volunteerism or slave labour? Chuck Moore and other luthiers on this site make lovely ukes and have a niche market which in some ways do not have to compete with the mass produced overseas made instruments. But what if the competition was giving away their products for free? Or if you could get a Moore Bettah from another vendor for free?

Here's an interesting article about this.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_information_super-sewer_20100214/

ukulelearp
02-16-2010, 11:37 AM
Everybody wants everything for free. Intellectual property has almost ceased to exist as a concept. I'm a musician and graphic designer, my wife is a journalist. These disciplines are being ravaged these days. We have an online world of enthusiastic, but not necessarily competent folks happily giving away their work for free to whoever wants it. Volunteerism or slave labour? Chuck Moore and other luthiers on this site make lovely ukes and have a niche market which in some ways do not have to compete with the mass produced overseas made instruments. But what if the competition was giving away their products for free? Or if you could get a Moore Bettah from another vendor for free?

Here's an interesting article about this.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_information_super-sewer_20100214/

I could do worse than a Moore Bettah for free :D

PeformanceUke
02-16-2010, 11:41 AM
I think this topic should be locked, UU is already a place that shows ukulele how to tutorials and information they also sell ukulele how-to equipment. Its obvious this guy doesn't know much if he is looking for someone to teach for him. why pay for that??

ukulelearp
02-16-2010, 11:44 AM
I think this topic should be locked, UU is already a place that shows ukulele how to tutorials and information they also sell ukulele how-to equipment. Its obvious this guy doesn't know much if he is looking for someone to teach for him. why pay for that??

He's just looking for someone interested in working with him. I don't think that violates any rules. He's politely asking for some help, and this would seem like a pretty good place to find it. If he sees a business opportunity, it's his right to take it. He's not making a business pitch. If you don't want to pay for something that's fine, but it wouldn't be right to stop him from looking for someone to help him.

Thumper
02-16-2010, 11:52 AM
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I think this topic should be locked, UU is already a place that shows ukulele how to tutorials and information they also sell ukulele how-to equipment. Its obvious this guy doesn't know much if he is looking for someone to teach for him. why pay for that??


So you don't think anybody should charge to give lessons? Are all music teachers evil?

Seriously, how do you think all the multitudes of instructional DVDs get made? You get a production company that knows about how to shoot videos and market DVDs, and get them together with an artist who's good at demonstrating how he or she plays. This ain't the Axis of Evil - it's standard fare for professional music instruction.

It's fine if you don't want to pay anything for the sources from which you're learning, but there's nothing wrong with a person making a polite inquiry here - and this seems like a good place to look for a ukulele player, doesn't it? One of our members might be thrilled at the opportunity to make some money for sharing his or her hard-earned expertise.

Why should the thread be locked?

seeso
02-16-2010, 12:32 PM
No need to lock the thread.

rpeters
02-16-2010, 12:32 PM
I realized, upon reflection, that my post was a bit harsh. To be honest, and I am not sure why, your original post rubbed me the wrong way. All that said, who I am to discourage someone from making a buck so long as it is being done honestly?

In any case, I wish you luck in putting together a product that will help others.

Well I think that's a natural reaction. I mean we're all from ukulele underground, so we are used to sharing free videos of tutorials. When someone comes in and says they want to sell these videos, it most definitely will "rub people the wrong way".

I mean who knows what kind of appeal we'll get from this product. Would you be interested in a DVD with a complete set of tutorials of every beatles song known to man? Or collections of 60's hawaiin music. The organization of the videos itself may be worth a little bit of money.

Ukulele JJ
02-16-2010, 12:34 PM
The idea of someone paying for something they can easily get for free sounds so silly to me that I nearly spit out some of the bottled water I'm drinking.

JJ

liquidtrends
02-16-2010, 12:38 PM
The idea of someone paying for something they can easily get for free sounds so silly to me that I nearly spit out some of the bottled water I'm drinking.

JJ

too funny!

Thumper
02-16-2010, 12:38 PM
The idea of someone paying for something they can easily get for free sounds so silly to me that I nearly spit out some of the bottled water I'm drinking.

JJ

LOL - nice one!

blueswithafeeling
02-16-2010, 12:41 PM
Oh please - if Aldrine, or Jake was to do the DVDs for this guy (assuming he really is legit and knows what he is doing), many UU people would buy them! Not everyone has the time to hunt for online tutorials. Heck, if there was an organized sort of series of lessons, around a real teaching framework, there would be a market. As was posted by some of the previous responders, even UU people buy instructional DVDs.

-Atin

liquidtrends
02-16-2010, 12:57 PM
Oh please - if Aldrine, or Jake was to do the DVDs for this guy (assuming he really is legit and knows what he is doing), many UU people would buy them! Not everyone has the time to hunt for online tutorials. Heck, if there was an organized sort of series of lessons, around a real teaching framework, there would be a market. As was posted by some of the previous responders, even UU people buy instructional DVDs.

-Atin

I have been in the business of internet marketing for almost 10 years and I have been successful with my projects. The great thing about this project is, I get to work on something I am truly interested in.

GrumpyCoyote
02-16-2010, 01:10 PM
Send a PM to Aldrine... That's my advice for what it's worth.

ukulelearp
02-16-2010, 01:12 PM
Send a PM to Aldrine... That's my advice for what it's worth.

I'd buy that DVD.

Gaby
02-16-2010, 01:59 PM
As a business owner I appreciate anyone having a go at something they believe in (despite the knockers!). It takes vision and guts to do that.

Personally I prefer to just watch a whole DVD rather than dozens of clips cut up in little pieces. Aldrine's DVD for example, is worth buying despite the free clips on the net.

You mustn't forget that plenty of people don't hang out on ukulele forums, or spend ages on YouTube. Even if the responses here are indicative for all uke players, there's obviously people out there that are willing to pay for a quality instructional DVD. And very few free videos teach proper technique.

Also, here in Australia for example, the biggest selling music book across the board last year was a simple ukulele instruction book! And any of those C, F and G7 tunes in this book can be found on the net. That didn't stop people from buying it!

What's in it for the instructor? That's up to the instructor and the producer to work out.

So looking at this business proposal, I'd say - why not? Low production cost and low risk can turn into high profits. Worth a go I reckon! All the best with your project!

kalmario
02-16-2010, 02:01 PM
might even help promote the UU dvd aswell?

PeformanceUke
02-16-2010, 05:45 PM
So you don't think anybody should charge to give lessons?

Wow when did i say that in my post's?


Are all music teachers evil?

Dam dude don't blow a gasket on me. Sorry if i made you angry


Seriously, how do you think all the multitudes of instructional DVDs get made?
There made by people who have background of the instrument i would guess.





You get a production company that knows about how to shoot videos and market DVDs, and get them together with an artist who's good at demonstrating how he or she plays. This ain't the Axis of Evil - it's standard fare for professional music instruction.

Wow




It's fine if you don't want to pay anything for the sources from which you're learning

Weird what am I learning? I don't come here to learn anything i think i am pretty good player already i frequent here to be around ukulele enthusiast.



, but there's nothing wrong with a person making a polite inquiry here - and this seems like a good place to look for a ukulele player, doesn't it? One of our members might be thrilled at the opportunity to make some money for sharing his or her hard-earned expertise.

Sure is nothing wrong with making a honest buck, but does this person have any credibility in the ukulele world? What if this person does not keep his end of the promise to some of the potential members here?



Why should the thread be locked?
Possible to protect to members here from a possible scam being the person has no experience in the ukulele world. And the person is looking to target members for labor.. I seen these type of patterns before and they don't come out pretty.
(not saying it is a scam but you never can be to careful nowdays)

The point I am getting at is UU is already a place that offers lessons and ukulele how to instructions supplies .. If he had gotten a Okay to do such things here then i would like to retract my comments. I just don't see much credibility in this persons knowledge of the ukulele.


.UU is trying to accomplish the same thing of Ukulele dvds and instruction in my eyes . And I was just coming from a respect point of view no harm intended.

ukulelearp
02-16-2010, 06:25 PM
Sure is nothing wrong with making a honest buck, but does this person have any credibility in the ukulele world? What if this person does not keep his end of the promise to some of the potential members here?



Possible to protect to members here from a possible scam being the person has no experience in the ukulele world. And the person is looking to target members for labor.. I seen these type of patterns before and they don't come out pretty.
(not saying it is a scam but you never can be to careful nowdays)


He doesn't need to establish his credibility to anyone but his business partners and his customers. He doesn't need our permission, he's just looking for a talented musician to partner with for some videos. Cut him some slack. While with the internet scamming is never out of the question, it's unfair to assume that someone who has been nothing but polite and patient is here to scam us. At least give him a chance. There's no need to lock the thread.

ricdoug
02-16-2010, 08:44 PM
I think this topic should be locked, UU is already a place that shows ukulele how to tutorials and information they also sell ukulele how-to equipment. Its obvious this guy doesn't know much if he is looking for someone to teach for him. why pay for that??

I disagree. Even though Aldrine, Rayan and Aaron offer free lessons and advice here, I still buy their products. I know it's not a requirement, but it's a small way of me saying "Thank you" for their generousity. There's a box of nice gifts on their way as we speak to the K-Town Heros. All I expect in return are videos and reviews. I've met the UU on more than one occassion and know for a fact that they expect no renumeration for their lessons and knowledge, BUT I also know that those that can afford it, like me, assist them in sustaining this tenet. The UU was established on a "We" basis and not on the "I". I choose to support them monetarilly and personally, even though it's never been their implied or expected vision. Ric

ricdoug
02-16-2010, 08:47 PM
Send a PM to Aldrine... That's my advice for what it's worth.

Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Ric

ricdoug
02-16-2010, 08:52 PM
No need to lock the thread.

Thanks for the wise choice, Seeso. I'm going to check out the UU E-store now to see what else I need to buy. Ric

ricdoug
02-16-2010, 08:54 PM
I'd buy that DVD.

Ditto! Ric

Pippin
02-16-2010, 09:00 PM
The idea of someone paying for something they can easily get for free sounds so silly to me that I nearly spit out some of the bottled water I'm drinking.

JJ

Yet, water is FREE, but, you are buying it bottled???

ricdoug
02-16-2010, 09:08 PM
He doesn't need to establish his credibility to anyone but his business partners and his customers. He doesn't need our permission, he's just looking for a talented musician to partner with for some videos. Cut him some slack. While with the internet scamming is never out of the question, it's unfair to assume that someone who has been nothing but polite and patient is here to scam us. At least give him a chance. There's no need to lock the thread.

FACT!!!

That's how Matt was found to represent the UU at the NAMM show. Ric

rayan
02-16-2010, 10:05 PM
That was a little different because Lanikai actually went about it the right way by coming to us first. Our goal is to always protect the membership as best as we can so we needed to make sure Lanikai was going to take care of some very essential things for anyone they pull from UU to help them. Only after all that was worked out was that thread posted.

This is the reason why it states in the rules that every commercial solicitation in the forum must be run by the staff first. This thread would have probably been ok, but OP obviously didn't read the rules.

clayton56
02-16-2010, 10:42 PM
Holy cow I can't believe these clowns. You offer them work doing ukulele music and they slam you. I weep for the future.

A well crafted, well marketed product always has a place for people who know what they are doing. But, you may be looking in the wrong place - who WOULD buy an instructional video featuring people with these attitudes?

Personally, I'd be interested, though I'm fairly new to ukulele, and time is a problem (I'm pretty busy with a music website of my own).

buddhuu
02-16-2010, 11:29 PM
As Rayan said, the only obvious issue really is that the OP didn't read the rule about asking before making a commercial post.

IMHO, as the topic is 'ukulele related, and we have no reason to suspect the OP of anything shady, I see nothing particularly outrageous.

Commercially produced tutorial materials are often of a higher quality, better planned and executed, than much of what is very generously offered for free on the web. It is certainly easier to find 90 minutes of structured coursework on a DVD than from random YT vids.

Aldrine's stuff is clearly fantastic, and would be hard to improve on, but that doesn't change the rule of thumb.

I am a fiddler as well as a uke mangler. I bought a book/DVD course called 'The American Fiddle Method' by a fella named Brian Wicklund. I have learned plenty from YT vids but the Wicklund course was the best money I ever spent on musical learning materials and beats any free resources I ever found by a million miles. It is a staggeringly well conceived and executed course.

Personally I'm happy to give the OP the benefit of the doubt until and unless a good reason to do otherwise comes to light.

It's just a guy with an interest in uke trying to make a hobby-related business. I see no reason to give him a hard time. If I don't see a need for the finished product, I won't buy it.

Homespun and Mel Bay charge for instruction material, and much of it is great value. There are already several uke sites selling tutorial material. Some of it gets recommended here.

blueswithafeeling
02-17-2010, 06:02 AM
The best purchase ever made for my musical education was the book on classical guitar my dad bought me when I was 8. We didn't have VCRs then, forget DVDs ;-). But if I had a set of DVDs, organized around a real teaching framework, soup to nuts, with Aldrine as the teacher - I would buy it, and save it for my kid (who is 2 and owns a soprano that is still too big for him to hold so he lays it on the ground and plays the open strings and sings "My dog has fleas!" with it). Just PM Aldrine man . . . he obviously has the talent and the "need to teach" that you are looking for.

Interstellar
02-17-2010, 06:48 AM
FYI Liquid, "Ukulele Mike" who is all over YT is publishing DVDs I believe with Oscar Schmidt as the sponsor - making a bridge from free to paid lessons.

http://www.wix.com/UkuleleMikeLynch/UKULELE-MIKE---Mike-Lynch

As a ukulele newbie, I take in information from all points possible - free web tabs, iTunes downloaded ukulele music to train my ear, online lessons (AG on UU), YouTube videos (both the good and bad), music books and instructional DVDs. Each source has given me knowledge to begin my long journey to mastering the ukulele. I would love to have private lessons but my work as a filmmaker keeps me too busy to keep a fixed schedule. Come up with a system of online instruction that is personal and flexible - via skype or other video conferencing. I think that is a better business model than dealing with manufacturing and distribution headaches that come with DVDs.

Think of a solution to use the iPad products of the future to teach music. That's the "go west young man" of today.

Cheers,
Kris

haole
02-17-2010, 09:38 AM
I'd pay twenty bucks for an Eldrine DVD. Especially if he shows us how to restring and adjust the intonation with just a garden shovel.