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NatalieS
07-14-2010, 05:16 AM
I've been looking for some new low G strings to try on my Pono mango sprucetop tenor. The low G Worth clears were pretty good, but this uke has yet to "open up" and I found the strings sounding sort of muffled, like the whole instrument was wrapped in a marshmallow. With all the recent UU discussion about "how to make your uke sound more guitar-like", I started listening more to Craig Brandau's videos. That was exactly the sound I was hoping to get from my tenor. I emailed him, found out that he uses Savarez strings, and ordered a set.

Can I just say... WOW!!!!

I am so impressed with these strings! I consider Worths to be my all-around favorite strings, especially on my soprano. But they don't even compare to the Savarez on this particular uke. Every single note is now louder, more clarified, and yes, more "guitar-like". I feel like the sprucetop opened up overnight!

I made a "before" video yesterday with the Worths, and will make one with the Savarez strings today. I'll post both later. I am so so pleased. Thanks, Craig!

Ronnie Aloha
07-14-2010, 05:48 AM
Which strings are you using from Savarez?

Kanaka916
07-14-2010, 06:29 AM
Hi Natalie, there are a number of threads regarding Savarez guitar string sets and a number of members have used them for quite some time. I didn't mean to dampen your spirits in any way. If you need me to link those threads, lemme know.

Craig
07-14-2010, 06:35 AM
Which strings are you using from Savarez?

Hi Ronnie,

Here's a link to the exact strings I use and whom I buy them from. It's best to buy the "treble set" along with a wound "D" string, for the low G. If you play reentrant, the "E" string will work fine.

http://www.stringsbymail.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_62_145_455

Craig
07-14-2010, 06:36 AM
I'm glad you're happy with them Natlie! Strings are a very personal and subjective topic. I find they work best for me and I even use them on my Flukes & Fleas.

didgeridoo2
07-14-2010, 06:44 AM
Anyone ever use them on a laminate? I keep my jazz archtop strung up with low g and currently have worths on it. I use it mainly for plugging in and find the worths to be fine. But the low g doesn't sound pure when I play accoustically.

I do think the g string is a heavy gage and the rest are mediums. So that could be the problem. I bought the g string separately and it wasn't marked either way.

NatalieS
07-14-2010, 06:55 AM
Hi Natalie, there are a number of threads regarding Savarez guitar string sets and a number of members have used them for quite some time. I didn't mean to dampen your spirits in any way. If you need me to link those threads, lemme know.

That doesn't dampen my spirits at all! I just wanted to share my experience with them, and thank Craig for telling me exactly which ones to get.

Ronnie Aloha, I got the exact ones that Craig mentioned... the "Alliance Treble" set for the top three strings (their numbers are 541R, 542R, 543R) and then the low-G string is sold separately (544R).

seeso
07-14-2010, 07:43 AM
Looks like it's time for me to try these out!

austin1
07-14-2010, 07:52 AM
Sorry for being a string idiot, but if we want to use these strings for high g, what would you guys recommend? and how does the treble set correspond to uke strings?

Q: Tina, don't you know anything at all about strings? Jesus Christmas.
A: Nope

Craig
07-14-2010, 08:06 AM
Sorry for being a string idiot, but if we want to use these strings for high g, what would you guys recommend? and how does the treble set correspond to uke strings?

So for the reentrant, it'd goes like this high G = E guitar string; C = guitar G string (did I just say, "G" string? ;) ), E string = guitar B string and A = E guitar string. So, the two guitar E strings go on the outside strings (4 & 1; or 1 & 4). I hope this makes sense.

Kanaka916
07-14-2010, 08:16 AM
Sorry for being a string idiot, but if we want to use these strings for high g, what would you guys recommend? and how does the treble set correspond to uke strings?

Q: Tina, don't you know anything at all about strings? Jesus Christmas.
A: Nope
http://www.curtsheller.com/ukulele/strings.php#Koolau >Scroll halfway down the page to "Using Classical Guitar String Set on Ukulele". Shoots, Craig beat me to it .... E String for high G.

mm stan
07-14-2010, 10:44 AM
I'm glad they worked well for you, and I'm happy you're happy with them and thanks for sharing your good experience
with us. As for me, I once bought a baritone and it came with D'Addario
strings and they were really loud, crisp, and deep rich with tones and a
nice substain....it was more of a guitar like sounding and I liked it very much..Try going to an earlier post by
IDavid ..More of guitarish tone..on the second page ...and on the 5th page of that thread...
I've listed one of brother Iz tunings using a high G set...

Ahnko Honu
07-14-2010, 09:08 PM
Stupid question time. These are guitar strings so one set can do at least 2 'ukuleles, correct? :confused:

DaveVisi
07-14-2010, 09:20 PM
That really depends. If you do high G, one guitar set can barely do one ukulele. "At least 2" implies two or more. I think the "or more" is definitely out of the question. If you're talking cutting strings in half, you might get two sets for a soprano, and although I haven't measured it's pretty doubtful you could string two tenors with a single guitar string length.

wickedwahine11
07-14-2010, 09:38 PM
I am pretty happy with my low g Fremonts but always game to try something new...anyone know if there is a non-wound way to do Savarez in low g? I am a big fan of those for re-entrant so I would like to try low g but I don't like wound strings.

Kekani
07-14-2010, 11:09 PM
Stupid question time. These are guitar strings so one set can do at least 2 'ukuleles, correct? :confused:

Not a stupid question. Answer is "no". And these match Tenors well. They're probably too thick for Standards/Concerts (okay, maybe not Concerts).

Natalie, personally, on a Spruce top, you should try the 540J series. Even though they are high tensions, they still "feel" softer than ProArte 46's. Don't be concerned about tuning up the 1st string, it stretches a lot initially. I string hardwood tops with the R's, but the J's are where its at for me when it comes to setting action and generating "kani".

Aaron

Craig
07-14-2010, 11:52 PM
I am pretty happy with my low g Fremonts but always game to try something new...anyone know if there is a non-wound way to do Savarez in low g? I am a big fan of those for re-entrant so I would like to try low g but I don't like wound strings.

In regards to the Savarrez...Nope...:( Have you tried the Worth clears or browns?

didgeridoo2
07-15-2010, 05:26 AM
Anyone ever use them on a laminate? I keep my jazz archtop strung up with low g and currently have worths on it. I use it mainly for plugging in and find the worths to be fine. But the low g doesn't sound pure when I play accoustically.

I do think the g string is a heavy gage and the rest are mediums. So that could be the problem. I bought the g string separately and it wasn't marked either way.

I may have answered my own question regarding why my worths w/low g sound off...But does anyone have any experience with these Savarez strings on a laminate like the Kala archtop? They're pretty pricey to just give em try.

Ronnie Aloha
07-15-2010, 05:41 AM
I may have answered my own question regarding why my worths w/low g sound off...But does anyone have any experience with these Savarez strings on a laminate like the Kala archtop? They're pretty pricey to just give em try.

Not an expert at all but I think the lower the tone of the string the thicker it is. Thus, the low g string you have is probably the stock low g Worth string.

ukecantdothat
07-15-2010, 08:31 AM
I'm a recent convert to the Savarez strings, myself, after thejumpingflea dialed me in to them. I still love the sound of Aquilas, but I found them to be to scratchy in the recording studio when close miked for solos. I do a lot of vibrato and the somewhat rough texture makes it difficult to be clean, particularly on the more gentle songs. Mostly, I didn't notice the scratchy stuff once it was brought into the mix, but while I'm tracking, I'm more conscious of it and tend to hold back . The Savarez are loud and smooth and I don't worry about it anymore. Someday when I'm a true multi-uker, I'll have Aquilas for my "rhythm ukes" because I do like the sound and soft touch they have.

NatalieS
07-15-2010, 03:23 PM
I finally got the comparison videos uploaded. To be honest, I'm not sure I hear much of a difference when I watch the videos, lol! But I definitely feel the difference. The Savarez require much less effort to produce a ton of sound, and the low-G string sounds a lot more balanced with the other strings. The Worth G string always had sort of a booming sound that overpowered the other three strings. I think you can hear the biggest difference in the strumming sections.

"Before" video (Worths)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fpkC4d7sbs

"After" video (Savarez)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMZujlV5ZD0

Craig
07-15-2010, 04:16 PM
First of all, Nice Playing! Second, it is hard to tell via YouTube videos. What matters most is that you're happy with them. I sure am! I mean, I even put them on my Flukes!

austin1
07-15-2010, 06:00 PM
so just to clarify, for reentrant tuning, I'm getting the treble set, and then one 1st string (e), normal tension .0244

NatalieS
07-15-2010, 06:04 PM
Yes, that's right.

These are your first three strings: http://www.stringsbymail.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_62_143_280&products_id=3806
And to get a re-entrant G, get an extra one of these: http://www.stringsbymail.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_62_143_280&products_id=3808

NatalieS
07-15-2010, 06:05 PM
First of all, Nice Playing! Second, it is hard to tell via YouTube videos. What matters most is that you're happy with them. I sure am! I mean, I even put them on my Flukes!

Thanks Craig! Yes, I'm very happy with them. :-)

Craig
07-15-2010, 06:11 PM
so just to clarify, for reentrant tuning, I'm getting the treble set, and then one 1st string (e), normal tension .0244

Yes and good luck!

Kekani
07-15-2010, 06:21 PM
They're pretty pricey to just give em try.

Juststrings.com you can get a set for about $12. Compared to the cost of an instrument, that's nothing - like putting gas in your car, or more like changing oil.

peterp
07-15-2010, 07:07 PM
thanks for the recordings. i like the softer sound of the worth strings. it sounds more like a uke, and less like a guitar. btw, that pono uke is a nice one.

didgeridoo2
07-15-2010, 07:20 PM
Juststrings.com you can get a set for about $12. Compared to the cost of an instrument, that's nothing - like putting gas in your car, or more like changing oil.

Well, sure. That's the best price I've seen, but they are pricey in comparison to others. I'm sure I'll get around to trying them at some point.

NatalieS
07-16-2010, 03:55 AM
thanks for the recordings. i like the softer sound of the worth strings. it sounds more like a uke, and less like a guitar. btw, that pono uke is a nice one.

Thanks! I'm not trying to bash Worth in any way. I love Worths on my soprano and concert ukes, and if I get another uke I'll likely put Worths on it too. I just wanted a different, more guitar-like sound from my tenor.

Ahnko Honu
07-17-2010, 02:52 PM
I just got my set in the mail today, very fast shipping to the middle of nowhere. Now I have to decide which of my 'ukuleles need them the worst. I do have a tenor and a super concert strung with GHS strings right now. Hmm. ;)

wickedwahine11
07-17-2010, 03:34 PM
After watching your video, you convinced me Natalie. I ordered a set and plan to to try them out on my uke. :)

Craig
07-17-2010, 03:56 PM
I just got my set in the mail today, very fast shipping to the middle of nowhere. Now I have to decide which of my 'ukuleles need them the worst. I do have a tenor and a super concert strung with GHS strings right now. Hmm. ;)

I'll be curious to know what you think! About the strings, that is...;)

Craig
07-17-2010, 03:56 PM
After watching your video, you convinced me Natalie. I ordered a set and plan to to try them out on my uke. :)

I'll be curious to know what you think!

Rzr
07-17-2010, 06:05 PM
I've used Savarez strings for a While and I agree they are awesome. You can also get a "corum Savarez" D string for the low g which doesn't squeak as much. The number on the package is RE . D . 4 504 R.
I was given a set of Worths recently so I'm trying those right now. I think they are awesome too. The set of Worths is high g. What I've done is taken a Savarez C string and tuned it down to G. So far so good. I didn't mind the wound string, just didn't really like that they tend to wear out faster then the others.

DeG
07-17-2010, 08:26 PM
I've been using the Savarez Traditional that TJF reviewed in his Moore Bettah String Trials (http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?20066-Moore-Bettah-String-Trials&highlight=string+trials+moore) For at least 6 months now. I'm really happy with these.

Raygf
07-21-2010, 07:07 AM
I've been following this thread and ordered a set of the Savarez. When I went to install them on my Kala Acacia tenor the wound D string winding started separating between the nut and the tuner while I was installing the string. I do not want to alter the nut. Has this happened to anyone else?

Fortunately I ordered a set of D"Addario Pro Arte tenors as well. I was going to try the "Brudda Iz" switch of the high g set, but it didn't seem to like the C on top so I strung it reentrant. I did not like these strings when I tried them years ago, but they sound really nice on the Kala. Guess it's either reentrant or non-wound low G for me right now.
Regards,
Ray

didgeridoo2
07-21-2010, 09:06 AM
I've been following this thread and ordered a set of the Savarez. When I went to install them on my Kala Acacia tenor the wound D string winding started separating between the nut and the tuner while I was installing the string. I do not want to alter the nut. Has this happened to anyone else?

Fortunately I ordered a set of D"Addario Pro Arte tenors as well. I was going to try the "Brudda Iz" switch of the high g set, but it didn't seem to like the C on top so I strung it reentrant. I did not like these strings when I tried them years ago, but they sound really nice on the Kala. Guess it's either reentrant or non-wound low G for me right now.
Regards,
Ray

Hey Ray,

When I had my Kala Acacia, I also liked the Pro Artes and like the T2s even more. I know thejumping flea suggest savarez for it, yet I never tried them.

wickedwahine11
07-22-2010, 08:38 AM
I just put these on this morning. So far, I love the crystal clear sound. I'm not usually a fan of wound strings, but I had ordered the Corum wound low g so that it would hopefully be less squeaky, I actually kind of like the feel of that string...it isn't like other wounds ones I have used in the past.

I'll have to see how they settle for a few days and then give a more informed opinion, but so far so good.

NatalieS
07-22-2010, 08:55 AM
I just put these on this morning. So far, I love the crystal clear sound. I'm not usually a fan of wound strings, but I had ordered the Corum wound low g so that it would hopefully be less squeaky, I actually kind of like the feel of that string...it isn't like other wounds ones I have used in the past.

I'll have to see how they settle for a few days and then give a more informed opinion, but so far so good.

Great! :-)

Craig
07-22-2010, 09:36 AM
I just put these on this morning. So far, I love the crystal clear sound. I'm not usually a fan of wound strings, but I had ordered the Corum wound low g so that it would hopefully be less squeaky, I actually kind of like the feel of that string...it isn't like other wounds ones I have used in the past.

I'll have to see how they settle for a few days and then give a more informed opinion, but so far so good.

The squeakiness can be problematic, especially when recording. However, I've found that after a couple of days of playing, they squeak less. The wound string also provides a positive technique challenge for me. I figure that all those great classical guitar players I listen to don't make squeaks and they've got three wound strings, I must not be fingering my notes clearly... Still, if one slides from a C to an E note on the low G, it's still going to squeak... I hope this makes sense! LOL! I'm so confused!...:)

bt93
07-23-2010, 07:00 AM
which savarez would sound "guitary" on my koaloha concert? (like which tensions and which set)

wickedwahine11
07-23-2010, 07:42 AM
I think they are great strings, but just not for me...not right now anyway. The Corum wound feels terrific, and sounds really good as well, but I just couldn't get past the squeakiness of the sliding around on that wound string. I think I'm just a non-wound kind of girl. So I put my Fremont Fluorocarbon Blackline low g back on and feel more comfortable with those. I'm not giving up on the Savarez though. I think they sound great...the fault lies not with the string but with the player. I just can't get the wound thing down -- I plan on keeping them and will probably put them back on when my uke lessons end in a couple of weeks and I can dedicate time to getting used to the wound quality.

Ronnie Aloha
07-23-2010, 08:53 AM
I think they are great strings, but just not for me...not right now anyway. The Corum wound feels terrific, and sounds really good as well, but I just couldn't get past the squeakiness of the sliding around on that wound string. I think I'm just a non-wound kind of girl. So I put my Fremont Fluorocarbon Blackline low g back on and feel more comfortable with those. I'm not giving up on the Savarez though. I think they sound great...the fault lies not with the string but with the player. I just can't get the wound thing down -- I plan on keeping them and will probably put them back on when my uke lessons end in a couple of weeks and I can dedicate time to getting used to the wound quality.


Bummer, now I'll have to order my own set! I thought I'd get my hands on your hand-me-downs! : )

How did you like the treble stings?