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wickedwahine11
10-20-2010, 09:01 AM
Hi I am here in Oahu for a couple more days before I go to Kauai. My MiSi pickup is not working in my Kamaka. I took my amp and cord to Puapua and they said it is the pickup. I'm not sure if the pickup is bad or the install is. Is there ant one in the 808 who coiled take a look at it for me? I know Kamaka won't since they didn't do my install. Help my 808 UU brothers and sisters! Please!

SailingUke
10-20-2010, 09:26 AM
Is it charged up?
MGM is in Kaneohe if you can get to him.

Dominator
10-20-2010, 09:36 AM
Is it charged up?


This was my very first thought. If it was not charged after the install then most certainly that would be the problem. I recently installed a MiSi and purposely checked to see if the pickup had any life before charging it and it was deader than a door nail.
Good luck,

wickedwahine11
10-20-2010, 09:43 AM
I initially charged it a while back, it was a long time ago, but if I recall, it holds that charge until used. I don't have the charger with me, but I tried the 9volt battery method and it still didn't work. :(

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
10-20-2010, 09:49 AM
The 9 volt battery charge method only works with a stereo cord.

wickedwahine11
10-20-2010, 09:51 AM
The 9 volt battery charge method only works with a stereo cord.

Ah, well, maybe that explains it.

I get no sound at all out of the amp (I tried two different amps so that wasn't the problem) and I only get a tiny bit of output when the gain is at it's highest setting. :(

GX9901
10-20-2010, 10:21 AM
I initially charged it a while back, it was a long time ago, but if I recall, it holds that charge until used. I don't have the charger with me, but I tried the 9volt battery method and it still didn't work. :(

It starts discharging immediately after you're done charging it, whether or not you're plugging it into the amp or not. The amp is not drawing power from the Mi-Si pickup. The pre-amp is in effect continuously "on" once it's charged until it runs out of power from the internal capacitor. So it should only work for 8-16 hours (IIRC) after charging for 60 seconds. I have not tried the 9V method, but you would need to make sure the proper lead on the stereo cable is connected to the battery properly for it to charge the pre-amp. Refer to the "Useful Tip" at the bottom of the Mi-Si manual for how to charge with the 9V batter: http://mi-si.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/trio.manual_1.pdf

Ronnie Aloha
10-20-2010, 10:26 AM
Call Brian at KoAloha. They do MiSi installs so the might have a charger that you could use.

wickedwahine11
10-20-2010, 10:42 AM
Call Brian at KoAloha. They do MiSi installs so the might have a charger that you could use.

George - thanks for the info, maybe I am lucky and it does just need a charge then.

Ronnie, I will try giving KoAloha a call then today or tomorrow. Do you think they will let me even though it is a Kamaka? Maybe if I buy a factory second while I am there.

molokinirum
10-20-2010, 10:44 AM
...Do you think they will let me even though it is a Kamaka? Maybe if I buy a factory second while I am there.

Wicked...hope you fix you problem! Sounds like a perfect chance to buy a KoAloha!!!!

SailingUke
10-20-2010, 11:53 AM
Note to self:
ALWAYS carry my charger.

mm stan
10-20-2010, 01:06 PM
Hi I am here in Oahu for a couple more days before I go to Kauai. My MiSi pickup is not working in my Kamaka. I took my amp and cord to Puapua and they said it is the pickup. I'm not sure if the pickup is bad or the install is. Is there ant one in the 808 who coiled take a look at it for me? I know Kamaka won't since they didn't do my install. Help my 808 UU brothers and sisters! Please!

Aloha tracy,
I heard Kamaka installs them here, contact them...531-3167
I hope it helps...Good Luck!! and have a happy vacation.....
Another place is Dan's guitar...outside waikiki 5 min...McCully and Beretania..
Telephone #942-2900 2000 South Beretania Street Unit "B"
A farther one is Kanile'a ukuleles... Stan

wickedwahine11
10-20-2010, 02:39 PM
Thanks guys for the tips...I tried Dan's Guitars and Island Guitars and neither had a charger. I also called Good Guys, Kamaka and KoAloha, with no luck. I sent a message to Kristen Souza of Kanile'a (although I do feel terrible asking them to help me with the uke of another company). KoAloha told me to try MGM so I will go beg him now. :(

haole
10-20-2010, 03:16 PM
MGM will definitely hook you up. He sells the pickups individually and installs them, so he has the means to help.

Have you had your eye on any other ukes since you've been on Oahu?

wickedwahine11
10-20-2010, 05:08 PM
MGM will definitely hook you up. He sells the pickups individually and installs them, so he has the means to help.

Have you had your eye on any other ukes since you've been on Oahu?

I hope so...I sent him a PM begging for help. :)

I did go to a couple of stores - I saw a crown bridge KoAloha (I think it was a super concert?) and a beautiful Kanilea. Nothing called to me enough to buy it, but my fave store is in Kauai so all bets are off when I get to Larry's.

GX9901
10-20-2010, 05:26 PM
It starts discharging immediately after you're done charging it, whether or not you're plugging it into the amp or not. The amp is not drawing power from the Mi-Si pickup. The pre-amp is in effect continuously "on" once it's charged until it runs out of power from the internal capacitor. So it should only work for 8-16 hours (IIRC) after charging for 60 seconds. I have not tried the 9V method, but you would need to make sure the proper lead on the stereo cable is connected to the battery properly for it to charge the pre-amp. Refer to the "Useful Tip" at the bottom of the Mi-Si manual for how to charge with the 9V batter: http://mi-si.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/trio.manual_1.pdf

Hmm...I may have to eat what I've posted above. I have 3 ukes with Mi-Si Acoustic Trio pickup installed and I tried them tonight. I think I had charged one of them maybe within the last month, but I know the other two had not been charged for a very long time, possibly over a year. All three came through my acoustic amp fine despite not having been charged recently. So I guess it holds the charge when you're not playing it through an amp, which is not what I understood to be the case before.

Anyway, keep us posted on whether charging it resolves the problem for you. Hopefully MGM can help.

Kekani
10-20-2010, 08:43 PM
I KNEW I'd run into this one day, not personally, but at the expense of someone else. I always carry an extra 9v with me for a number of reasons - DI, and active pickups a la LR Baggs. 9v won't work with a MiSi (unless you have a stereo cord).

Thanks for reminding me of one of the reasons I have a preference for the real thing.

hoosierhiver
10-21-2010, 03:40 AM
I've found Mi-Si's to be very reliable, but like with anything electronic you could always have the occasional dud.

Mainland sells the charger for $35.

PeformanceUke
10-21-2010, 04:47 AM
PM sent to op

Gmoney
10-21-2010, 06:29 AM
... 9v won't work with a MiSi (unless you have a stereo cord). ...

I'm going to have to go to Radio Shack & get a 9-volt battery holder & a 1/4 stereo plug & wire up a quick & dirty - on the fly Mi-Si emergency charger! Seems like a no-brainer...

wickedwahine11
10-21-2010, 09:40 AM
Curses on me for not having a car! I heard back from MGM and he had a charger but it would be about three and a half hours on the bus to get out to him from Waikiki. So instead I am going to buy a stereo cord at Ala Moana mall and try that. Big shout out to Kanilea as Kristen said they didn't have a charger either but could try. Since they are also in Kaneohe I am going to try the stereo cord first..

MGM
10-21-2010, 10:45 AM
She got a hold of me Before taking the bus all the way to my side of the island i told her to try a stereo cable with the 9 volt...

wickedwahine11
10-21-2010, 12:20 PM
She got a hold of me Before taking the bus all the way to my side of the island i told her to try a stereo cable with the 9 volt...

Doh! Major egg on my face. :eek:I bought a stereo cable at Radio Shack (I did have to get an adapter as well since they didn't have a cord with Bo ends being male stereo 1/4 inch plugs). I got back to the hotel and just as I was about to look up the bus route to Mike, I tried it and voilą! It worked!

I'm an even bigger doofus than I thought I was, as it just needed a charge. Though apparently at least my unit didn't sustain the charge from before (like GX9901's did). The little Honeytone amp didn't sound terrific, but it is working. I am permanently keeping that cable in my case for the future though. As I told Mike on the phone though, it wasn't perfect before either so I still may take it back for a checkup to make sure it was installed totally correctly, but this is better than nothing.

I have major shout outs for the Ohana that is the ukulele company. To Mike, thank you for answering my pleas and agreeing to let me meet with you. To the KoAloha Okamis and the Kanilea Souzas, I can't give you nearly enough praise as it is astounding how kind and welcoming you were - both of you willing to help me out with a competitor's ukulele, just because...

To Kamaka, thanks for being so helpful trying to come up with stores and luthiers who could help me, and last but not least thanks to my UU family, as always, you are the best.

PeformanceUke
10-21-2010, 02:13 PM
Cool glad you fixed the problem.

Mandarb
10-22-2010, 03:00 AM
Glad to hear you got things worked out.

molokinirum
10-22-2010, 03:55 AM
Very happy the problem is fixed.....Now on to some real fun in Kaui!!!!!