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Kaneohe til the end
12-18-2010, 08:56 AM
as promised, a picture of the new bridge. http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm177/ninjabynature/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_6807-6.jpg
taken with my iphone, kinda blurry

a bridge with 2 saddles, the strings sit through the saddle towards the bottom of the uke.

but... pops already changed it, so theres only a few of these that will be floating around.

new pics to come...

cletus
12-18-2010, 09:16 AM
as promised, a picture of the new bridge.

but... pops already changed it, so theres only a few of these that will be floating around.


Curious as to why the bridge was changed?
And what are the "new" new bridges going to be like?

Looking forward to more pics, thanks!

mm stan
12-18-2010, 11:06 AM
Aloha Kaneohe till the end....
Well I'm glad to hear it was changed...it looked much wider too..wonder if affected the sound board...looking forward to to the updated version....Happy Holiodays...MM Stan..

Howie1947
12-18-2010, 02:05 PM
Very nice, keep on strummin

ADD
12-18-2010, 06:35 PM
I like the looks of that bridge. Pretty kool.

Kalihonu
12-18-2010, 06:50 PM
Very cool, thanks for sharing.

ukeeku
12-19-2010, 07:48 AM
Someone got a laser etching machine for x-mas!! :)
I am a sucker for that kind of stuff. I like the bridge and all. I think it is great that a leading uke company is willing to play and inovate.

pithaya9
12-19-2010, 09:23 AM
I like the new design, can't wait to see the next revision.

Gillian
12-19-2010, 11:55 AM
Is this the new bridge design? I just bought this long neck soprano last week at the Koaloha factory. It is date stamped Oct. 2010.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn18/gillyflower54/koaloha-bridge.jpg

pithaya9
12-19-2010, 01:58 PM
I like this one also, but I think the other one is a little bit nicer. Now I'm going to need to get new ukes with one of each style lol.

pdxuke
12-19-2010, 02:51 PM
I say this with the utmost respect for Papa and the makers of KoAloha--but I really, really dislike these new bridge designs. The classic knotted bridge that used to be on their standard soprano instruments was beautiful, simple, and did not draw attention to itself.

I literally stopped in mid-sale today from buying my first KoAloha because of this bridge. Again, respectfully, I think it looks cheap.

I'm really hoping they go back to the classic, knotted design for the standard sopranos. Otherwise, I may have to wait until a used one comes up.

telebob
12-19-2010, 03:29 PM
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn18/gillyflower54/koaloha-bridge.jpg

Given a choice of the two new bridges, I prefer this one... I don't like the double saddle and string bridge ends on the first design. JMHO... YMMV. :2cents:

pdxuke
12-19-2010, 03:38 PM
http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18642

This previous KoAloha bridge, to my eyes, is simple and elegant. It does not detract from the beauty of the instrument. It is classic; in fact, both my Martin and Gibson have this bridge, or something close to it. Boo hoo....:(

3nails4holes
12-19-2010, 04:24 PM
http://www.koaloha.com/2010/11/16/new-bridge-design/

this seems to be more like what koaloha posted on their site. i wonder where that other one came from? even mgm posted a pic of it on this thread (http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?39529-Koaloha-soprano-concert-bridges-change).

interesting. i got an email back from them when i asked a while back about the crown bridge. here's what they said:

"Aloha Robby,

Thank you for taking an interest in KoAloha Ukulele. We switched to the bow tie bridge for a few reasons. The crown bridge was very difficult to make and had a very high chance of breaking during the process. The points of the crown is where a lot of chipping occurred. I would say out of five, two would break.

The crown style was also prone to lifting off the sound board because it was made of two pieces. This rarely happens with the bow tie style, because it covers more surface area on the sound board.

A crown bridge is something we would normally accept for a special order. However, due to a four year back order, our shop manager is temporarily not accepting any special or custom orders. He hopes to catch up by some time in 2012. Sorry for the bad news.

Hope this helps. Feel free to contact me for any questions.

Mahalo,..."

pdxuke
12-19-2010, 04:43 PM
I just don't know what was wrong with the simple knotted bridge for sopranos.

Gillian
12-19-2010, 07:38 PM
I just don't know what was wrong with the simple knotted bridge for sopranos.

I asked this very question and according to Brian, they switched to the tie bridge to avoid the problem some owners were reporting of the knots pulling through the holes and pulling bits of the bridge with them.

Skitzic
12-20-2010, 01:34 AM
Is this the new bridge design? I just bought this long neck soprano last week at the Koaloha factory. It is date stamped Oct. 2010.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn18/gillyflower54/koaloha-bridge.jpg

I'll have to jump on the 'I prefer this one' band wagon. I like the double saddle, but this one just seems a little nicer to me. Although, I think if the saddles were ebony I would really love the double saddle look.

Groover
12-20-2010, 05:07 AM
Not too keen of the 'new' double saddle design either, wonder if adds any change to sound or if only cosmetic? I agree that simple is eloquent, the double saddle looks a bit busy IMHO...

Interesting to see the 1st logo design too from Oct10 though. I picked up a Nov10 concert with the 2nd logo design, I posted some pictures in the below thread:

http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?39211-New-Koaloha-Logo-Bridge-pictures

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs600.ash2/155255_477831387627_618607627_5690020_4673685_n.jp g

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1177.snc4/154940_479569522627_618607627_5713612_2240481_n.jp g

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1223.snc4/155542_479569562627_618607627_5713614_555372_n.jpg


I wouldn't say that the logo design cheapens the uke, I think it looks subtle and compliments the K logo on the headstock nicely (although I feel that the engraven logo is nicer than the lazer logo IMHO.)

Interesting that Koaloha have revised the bridge 4 times in a couple of months through, certainly creating a bit of a buzz but where will it stop?

olgoat52
12-20-2010, 05:41 AM
I think they are on the wrong path period. All these new designs look cheap to me. I am all for doing away with the knotted bridge as I have experienced the "pull through" problem, but all this engraving is uncalled for. I may now own the only KoAloha I will ever buy.

Also with the double saddle design, my first thought was that the string pull on the tie through saddle is going to break out the back of the bridge.

DustinCasler
12-20-2010, 06:36 AM
I kind of like the new designs. It gives it a different look and the more they change aspects the cooler it will be to be able to look at them and try to tell when they were made. Or even to just enjoy the slight difference between instruments. If I had the spare cash for a KoAloha i'd definitely be buying without hesitation regardless of the bridge. ha.

Kaneohe til the end
12-24-2010, 08:31 AM
Not too keen of the 'new' double saddle design either, wonder if adds any change to sound or if only cosmetic? I agree that simple is eloquent, the double saddle looks a bit busy IMHO...

Interesting to see the 1st logo design too from Oct10 though. I picked up a Nov10 concert with the 2nd logo design, I posted some pictures in the below thread:

http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?39211-New-Koaloha-Logo-Bridge-pictures

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs600.ash2/155255_477831387627_618607627_5690020_4673685_n.jp g

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1177.snc4/154940_479569522627_618607627_5713612_2240481_n.jp g

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1223.snc4/155542_479569562627_618607627_5713614_555372_n.jpg


I wouldn't say that the logo design cheapens the uke, I think it looks subtle and compliments the K logo on the headstock nicely (although I feel that the engraven logo is nicer than the lazer logo IMHO.)

Interesting that Koaloha have revised the bridge 4 times in a couple of months through, certainly creating a bit of a buzz but where will it stop?

"but where will it stop?"
even i dont know...

but to answer some of the questions, pops, who designs everything, is looking at a few things.
1, ease of production: how fast can we make them
2, aesthetics: does it look good
3, function: stability, will it break/pop off, is the string tension sitting the right way etc, and most importantly sound.

now unfortunately aesthetics is personal. what i may like may not be what you might. and although we try to please everybody, theres just no way to do that. to tell you the truth, i really liked the version that Groover picked up. for me it resembled the best aspects of our tenor bowtie bridge and our old std/con bridge and i hope we can go back to that. but what i think pops likes is flare. arguably sometimes too much, but ultimately, unless we receive multipe complaints, his word is final.

Plainsong
12-24-2010, 10:41 PM
I like the version Groover got. I'm thinking after 10 or so years, the uke might loose the inner Koaloha sticker. It can happen to any uke. And there the bridge will still have a bit of flare to it.

I don't much care for the double saddle version, but the upside is the Koaloha reputation for backing up anything they make. If it doesn't hold up, they'll fix it. I'm thinking he wouldn't make any change that would negatively impacted that signature sound.