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Timbuck
04-29-2011, 08:19 AM
While it's still the silly season for me and there's nothing on any of the TV channels but a documentry about some stupid prince getting hitched :biglaugh: ..I've decided to have a go at making a Tenor uke out of an old pallet that came with some stuff I bought on E-bay last year..I dismantled it and put it in a dry place and waited until today to resaw it into a set..I've wanted to do this ever since I saw a pic of a guitar made like this.
This is the pieces of Pallet

https://live.staticflickr.com/7861/40614368943_01809a4903_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24SXfUp)PICT0010-2 (https://flic.kr/p/24SXfUp) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/7801/46664891385_8e5c80907d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2e6BLqR)PICT0007 (https://flic.kr/p/2e6BLqR) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

tattwo
04-29-2011, 08:27 AM
That looks great!.....Cant wait to see your progress. What kind of wood is it?

UkeforJC
04-29-2011, 08:37 AM
Hi! Ken,
very nice looking board.

Just out of curiosity, is that board for the top quartersawn or...?
I am always wondering about that when I see this kind of grain.
Thanks
Looking forward to seeing your progress.

Timbuck
04-29-2011, 08:47 AM
That looks great!.....Cant wait to see your progress. What kind of wood is it?
It's pallet wood thats all I know:)

Timbuck
04-29-2011, 08:51 AM
Hi! Ken,
very nice looking board.

Just out of curiosity, is that board for the top quartersawn or...?
I am always wondering about that when I see this kind of grain.

I'm not really bothered if it's quarter sawn..I'm doing this for a bit of fun.;) :smileybounce:

tattwo
04-29-2011, 08:52 AM
It's pallet wood thats all I know:)

Enough said :D

UncleElvis
04-29-2011, 08:55 AM
I don't know how it's gonna sound, and, to be honest, I don't care! *grin*

It's prolly gonna LOOK AWESOME!

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
04-29-2011, 08:56 AM
I'm not really bothered if it's quarter sawn..I'm doing this for a bit of fun.;) :smileybounce:

Of course you're not! And no need for a sound hole with all those nail pukas!
.......eye bolts as tuners and rusty nails for frets. Gonna do it, you might as well do it right.........

SweetWaterBlue
04-29-2011, 11:29 AM
I like the centipede leg pattern on the top.

UkeforJC
04-29-2011, 11:41 AM
I'm not really bothered if it's quarter sawn..I'm doing this for a bit of fun.;) :smileybounce:

Hahaha...got ya...

and wow, i didn't even notice that there are nail holes....

Timbuck
04-29-2011, 12:09 PM
Did anyone notice that..I've placed the nail holes on the side pieces, in an area that would be less prone to breakage when bending ???

new wave ukulele
04-29-2011, 12:12 PM
remember to fill the nail holes with aluminum dowel rod and black epoxy to keep the look of nails... it's an old trick I picked up somewhere along the line.

Timbuck
04-29-2011, 12:18 PM
remember to fill the nail holes with aluminum dowel rod and black epoxy to keep the look of nails... it's an old trick I picked up somewhere along the line.
Yes! I remembered that when you posted about it last year...Mrs Timbuck's old knitting neadles are at the ready...Thanks for the info:D

ukegirl13
04-29-2011, 05:40 PM
Fun! Fun! Fun!

Timbuck
04-30-2011, 01:18 AM
Right now !..I got Mrs Timbuck to part with some of her old knitting needles
Mixed Ebony dust into some 2 part epoxy to make it black and cemented in pieces of alloy needle.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7914/47580471071_e0195410d8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fuwmnv)PICT0019-1 (https://flic.kr/p/2fuwmnv) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
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https://live.staticflickr.com/7921/47527476612_8123d0ecb7_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fpQJXW)PICT0022-1 (https://flic.kr/p/2fpQJXW) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/7893/47527479692_47218ab87a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fpQKT3)PICT0025 (https://flic.kr/p/2fpQKT3) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

fromthee2me
04-30-2011, 03:22 AM
You do interesting threads Prince Timbuck ! Watched the BBC channel on dish as they reported on the event. It is amazing what these Royalists are prepared to do, to claim their spots along the route. I suppose I am not much better typing on a forum about ukuleles. He He .The Plankulele, or the Holelele is going to be interesting, and I am holding thumbs for the bending exercise. Thank You. By the way what did you coat your outside workbench with?? Looking at my screen it looks like the colour of Red Oxide, but that is probably not what you used, as your shed sports the same colour?

new wave ukulele
04-30-2011, 04:48 AM
takes me back....

Canoe Lady
04-30-2011, 07:55 AM
This is great fun! I am enjoying this thread and can't wait to see how it progresses.

Timbuck
04-30-2011, 08:25 AM
Cross binding..fitted with the aid of some neodymium magnets that i've been playing around with.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7920/46664963965_de6526efee_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2e6C91e)PICT0027-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2e6C91e) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

sukie
04-30-2011, 08:34 AM
This is cool. Keep the pics coming. Also -- Chuck has some fun ideas.

Timbuck
04-30-2011, 08:57 AM
Also -- Chuck has some fun ideas.
Let's try and keep this thread clean please:old:

bbycrts
04-30-2011, 06:50 PM
I can't wait to see how this turns out, Ken. What strange cast-off wood will be next?

Timbuck
05-01-2011, 12:29 AM
Sides completed with same treatment with knitting needles and epoxy and a touch of CA glue here and there...linings made from same pallet wood...neck and tail blocks Sepela (From Stock) :o
https://live.staticflickr.com/7808/32638007437_6e41a4bf8d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/RJ7jwa)PICT0036-1 (https://flic.kr/p/RJ7jwa) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/7891/33703623738_e907e56315_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/TmgT81)PICT0030 (https://flic.kr/p/TmgT81) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

6stringconvert
05-01-2011, 02:10 AM
Ken,

Looking really good. Almost too good really. what sort of finish are you thinking? A "stored in the shed" look or, or something a little more sparkly?

"faking" the rat look patina is not that easy... but it could look awesome.

6sc

ps: you missed a great wedding - I loved every minute of it :-)

Timbuck
05-01-2011, 05:21 AM
Time to do the Rosette bit...It's a one piece rosette job, done on my old converted Kerry bench drill/milling machine..on a small rotary table.
First I mill out the groove with the right size cutter.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7808/47580584041_19abd11e41_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fuwVXg)PICT0040-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2fuwVXg) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/7887/46665034515_a0618e0ece_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2e6CuYB)PICT0043-1 (https://flic.kr/p/2e6CuYB) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
Nice chunk of contrasting Paduke for the rosette.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7836/47580591421_98499c3271_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fuwY9v)PICT0048 (https://flic.kr/p/2fuwY9v) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
with the cutter stil set at the same diametre as the groove a shallow skim on the surface.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7913/33703633548_c708ab4b8a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/TmgW39)PICT0051-1 (https://flic.kr/p/TmgW39) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

Timbuck
05-01-2011, 05:27 AM
Next I machine away the surplus material to a depth of 2.5 mm using the skimmed ring as a marker.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7918/40614575003_cda49a8600_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24SYjaa)PICT0053 (https://flic.kr/p/24SYjaa) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
Then sliced off on the bandsaw.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7853/47527678212_7ceffea03f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fpRLTN)PICT0059 (https://flic.kr/p/2fpRLTN) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/7886/47527682932_1ab0e89822_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fpRNib)PICT0061 (https://flic.kr/p/2fpRNib) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/7909/47580670501_f7cf3d02ee_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fuxnDX)PICT0064 (https://flic.kr/p/2fuxnDX) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

Timbuck
05-01-2011, 05:29 AM
Next a trial fit.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7878/47527687162_c4b648f41a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fpRPy7)PICT0067 (https://flic.kr/p/2fpRPy7) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
Then glued in and sanded flush.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7850/47527691312_987644f781_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fpRQME)PICT0072 (https://flic.kr/p/2fpRQME) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
Cutting the soundhole.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7840/32638111607_2af2fd13e3_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/RJ7Ruc)PICT0074 (https://flic.kr/p/RJ7Ruc) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/7900/46665101315_ece05bdbd6_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2e6CQQk)PICT0077 (https://flic.kr/p/2e6CQQk) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

UncleElvis
05-01-2011, 05:57 AM
Um... what, exactly, will you be doing with this afterwards?

Because I'm feeling a level of desire usually reserved for Mary Stuart Masterson in Some Kind Of Wonderful or a Moore Bettah...

Gmoney
05-01-2011, 06:43 AM
"What do you want to be when you grow up??" ME: "A LUTHIER!!"

This is just so freaking cool to watch & can't wait to hear the finished "experiment"!

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
05-01-2011, 06:44 AM
How about some stenciling; This Side Up, Handle With Care, Use No Hooks........

Timbuck
05-01-2011, 06:49 AM
How about some stenciling; This Side Up, Handle With Care, Use No Hooks........

That is a great idea Chuck :cool:..... i'll try and think of something.

new wave ukulele
05-01-2011, 07:00 AM
"What do you want to be when you grow up??" ME: "A LUTHIER!!"
this begs the question "can you do both?" Grow up and be a luthier...

markophonic
05-01-2011, 07:01 AM
This is too cool! I've done a similar Telecaster project with some old barnwood.

UncleElvis
05-01-2011, 07:51 AM
How about some stenciling; This Side Up, Handle With Care, Use No Hooks........

Oh, my heavens! I just swooned!

OOOH! How 'bout an INLAY that looks stencilled! *lol*

McBruce
05-01-2011, 09:19 AM
Up Arrows as fret markers and "This End Up" stenciled on the body. This is a really interesting thread. Wondering how the sound will be.

Konala
05-01-2011, 10:08 AM
Timbuck:

I may have missed it in an earlier thread, but can you give me more information on your plate jig that is shown on page 2. I notice that you have taken a complex jig and simplified it to be totally practical and easy to make from some scrap lumber. Some more pictures and details on how you make it work would be great. If you feel this isn't the place, then maybe a new thread.

I also love your use of rare earth magnets for the back graft. How did that work out?

Konala

sukie
05-01-2011, 10:42 AM
I'm not a luthier and I've not played one on TV. My question is: Would the sound be the same if you hadn't filled the little holes in?

GrumpyCoyote
05-01-2011, 10:43 AM
Wow. My kind of build. I'm in love with the nail-holes and that ratty pine. Just inspired.

Timbuck
05-01-2011, 11:39 AM
Timbuck:

I may have missed it in an earlier thread, but can you give me more information on your plate jig that is shown on page 2. I notice that you have taken a complex jig and simplified it to be totally practical and easy to make from some scrap lumber. Some more pictures and details on how you make it work would be great. Konala
This is the one.:D
http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?44978-Trying-out-an-old-method

Timbuck
05-01-2011, 11:49 AM
Timbuck:

I also love your use of rare earth magnets for the back graft. How did that work out?

Konala

It worked ok but you need a steel or iron plate at the back.....A "go bar deck" or clamps or weights or (if you've got one?) a vacuum press will work just as well.

geetee
05-01-2011, 12:58 PM
Darn it. I was hoping those magnets were being recycled from somewhere into an exotic new pick-up system that would make this the first uke that could exceed volume levels of 11.

Timbuck
05-01-2011, 10:00 PM
Another beautiful day in the UK..I started off at 6 AM this morning making and fitting the bracing, all made from the same palette wood...here they are sitting in the morning sunlight :D
https://live.staticflickr.com/7869/32642433407_3ef49f82b6_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/RJv1cZ)PICT0003-4 (https://flic.kr/p/RJv1cZ) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
I cut the fan brace profile notches to fit over the bridge patch..with a razor saw and rasp.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7915/46861045084_3986faf57f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2eoX76b)PICT0008-1 (https://flic.kr/p/2eoX76b) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

pt66
05-01-2011, 11:54 PM
Your are doing a great job showing all the steps. That's great. I have a question. How did you bend the sides? It looks like the knitting needles are sticking up above the surface. I would think they would get in the way on a bending iron.

Timbuck
05-02-2011, 03:17 AM
Your are doing a great job showing all the steps. That's great. I have a question. How did you bend the sides? It looks like the knitting needles are sticking up above the surface. I would think they would get in the way on a bending iron.
I bent first then fitted the needles after:D

Timbuck
05-02-2011, 03:18 AM
Now with the top glued to the sides.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7838/33708090818_f0a81afb76_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/TmEM2C)PICT0012-2 (https://flic.kr/p/TmEM2C) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
Another view.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7901/33708092008_f5b562b7ef_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/TmEMo9)PICT0014 (https://flic.kr/p/TmEMo9) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
And from the front.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7844/33708093918_d995321ec9_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/TmEMX5)PICT0020-1 (https://flic.kr/p/TmEMX5) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

Timbuck
05-02-2011, 03:21 AM
Then into the jig to fit the back..I placed a poly carb sheet on top to prevent the clamps bruising, co's it softwood.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7822/33708096198_9ea8743774_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/TmENCo)PICT0024 (https://flic.kr/p/TmENCo) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
Out of the jig trimmed and sanded.
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And from the rear...Now ready for the Bindings :wtf: ..Yes! bindings.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7802/47532097312_bb39a3c5f5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fqfqxb)PICT0034 (https://flic.kr/p/2fqfqxb) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

RyanMFT
05-02-2011, 05:40 AM
Thanks for taking the time to post all the updates Timbuck! Really enjoying following this!

mainiac
05-02-2011, 06:00 AM
I'm new to uke building, so these photos and description are fantastic for learning! If I may, could you divulge what this type of neck joining is called? I've not seen it in my searching, but looks quite practical, though I'm not sure how one would accomplish it.
Thanks!

Timbuck
05-02-2011, 06:09 AM
I'm new to uke building, so these photos and description are fantastic for learning! If I may, could you divulge what this type of neck joining is called? I've not seen it in my searching, but looks quite practical, though I'm not sure how one would accomplish it.
Thanks!
Thats a compound dovetail..I think that's what they call it.

Timbuck
05-02-2011, 06:10 AM
Here 's a strange shot!..It's me holding a set of African Padauk bindings in one hand while taking the photo with the other hand...Who said this stuff is hard to bend :confused:
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Moore Bettah Ukuleles
05-02-2011, 06:32 AM
Pretty cool Ken.
About those fan braces, is that as tall as you usually make them?

new wave ukulele
05-02-2011, 07:04 AM
Pretty cool Ken.
About those fan braces, is that as tall as you usually make them?

looks a little overbraced

Timbuck
05-02-2011, 09:15 AM
Pretty cool Ken.
About those fan braces, is that as tall as you usually make them?
About 12mm at the peak but they are pretty thin..same as the Kamaka I copied them from...The bracing plan is one I got from "Pete H"

Timbuck
05-02-2011, 09:17 AM
Thats it for today..I've been at it since 6 AM thats about a 14 hr day .. Now I'm off to buy some cans and relax, :cheers:
Bindings fitted to the top...Now shall i bind the back or leave it as is ????
https://live.staticflickr.com/7847/47585133191_b0c8b513bd_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fuWffT)PICT0058 (https://flic.kr/p/2fuWffT) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

Timbuck
05-02-2011, 09:27 AM
looks a little overbraced

It is made from pallet wood.. so it may need extra help....The type of wood has been identified as Pitceus Propsium or better know in the UK as "Barnsley Koa":rolleyes:

UncleElvis
05-02-2011, 09:30 AM
I'm desperately in love with this instrument.

You're doing, as expected, an AMAZING job with this. I can't wait to see the finished product.

bbycrts
05-02-2011, 09:33 AM
Don't skimp, Ken! Bind the back too!

It is looking better and better all the time...you know you have to do a sound sample when you're done, right?

fromthee2me
05-02-2011, 09:38 AM
enjoy the cans.... good pictures.....thank you

new wave ukulele
05-02-2011, 09:49 AM
About 12mm at the peak but they are pretty thin..same as the Kamaka I copied them from...The bracing plan is one I got from "Pete H"

I'd like to change my previous statement from "looks a little to" defiantly overbraced"

We may need a "how do you brace your ukes?" thread

new wave ukulele
05-02-2011, 09:51 AM
It is made from pallet wood.. so it may need extra help....The type of wood has been identified as Pitceus Propsium or better know in the UK as "Barnsley Koa":rolleyes:

Thats an aluminum reinforced top :eek:

tattwo
05-02-2011, 10:01 AM
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/PICT0034.jpg[/QUOTE]

Is that boxwood its sitting on? ;)

Timbuck
05-02-2011, 10:29 AM
https://live.staticflickr.com/7802/47532097312_bb39a3c5f5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fqfqxb)PICT0034 (https://flic.kr/p/2fqfqxb) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

Is that boxwood its sitting on? ;)[/QUOTE] Thats right!.... it took me 35 years to grow that....I started with 1 small cutting from my Mums garden.

tattwo
05-02-2011, 10:46 AM
beautifully clipped as well

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
05-02-2011, 12:21 PM
I'd like to change my previous statement from "looks a little to" defiantly overbraced"

We may need a "how do you brace your ukes?" thread

Well, I wasn't going to come right out and say so but..........I definitely agree. The width of the braces has little, if anything to do with the stiffness of it. It's the height that is most critical. But I've played one of Ken's ukes before and no one could complain about the sound.

new wave ukulele
05-02-2011, 12:50 PM
pure observation of the evidence in front of me. ken, Feel free to send me a uke, and I can comment on the tone :D

Timbuck
05-03-2011, 07:09 AM
Thats the body box done..binding "fore and aft"
https://live.staticflickr.com/7920/46669611605_cf96a106a7_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2e72XzX)PICT0001-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2e72XzX) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
Now for the neck...I 'm using some more pallet wood but thicker stuff.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7842/40619042793_b6211488f8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24Tndh2)PICT0011-2 (https://flic.kr/p/24Tndh2) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
I planed it and sliced it up in the usual way ..and glued the parts back together again
https://live.staticflickr.com/7889/46669615205_c697f4324f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2e72YE2)PICT0075 (https://flic.kr/p/2e72YE2) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
Then onto the bandsaw to rough it out
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tattwo
05-03-2011, 07:46 AM
Will you have to reinforce the neck?

Timbuck
05-03-2011, 07:53 AM
Will you have to reinforce the neck?

I have the CF rod's ready and waiting :D

Timbuck
05-03-2011, 07:54 AM
This neck wood has turned out to be a bit of a disappointment
it's got no nail holes and hardly any knots..I need nail holes to get the effect i'm after..so I did an experiment on a piece of scrap/
First drill a 3mm hole.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7824/33708188688_082dfe4054_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/TmFh83)PICT0083 (https://flic.kr/p/TmFh83) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
The take a sharp knife and drive it into the hole in line with the grain.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7899/32642552237_a8d589ddce_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/RJvBwM)PICT0085 (https://flic.kr/p/RJvBwM) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
Then take nail slightly larger than the hole..Dip it into some dark wood dye or black ink..and knock it into the hole
https://live.staticflickr.com/7875/40619062243_37764fa7c6_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24Tnj4n)PICT0089 (https://flic.kr/p/24Tnj4n) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
Now remove the nail and replace with a piece of aluminium knitting needle an fit it into the hole with CA glue
https://live.staticflickr.com/7864/47585100041_5c1fe3efda_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fuW5pk)PICT0092 (https://flic.kr/p/2fuW5pk) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

Timbuck
05-03-2011, 07:55 AM
And when it's sanded flush it looks like the real thing..both these nail holes are fake :D
https://live.staticflickr.com/7885/47585104031_af54dc0cc8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fuW6A8)PICT0096-1 (https://flic.kr/p/2fuW6A8) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

UncleElvis
05-03-2011, 08:05 AM
Awe, I am in it.

Gmoney
05-03-2011, 08:10 AM
And when it's sanded flush it lokks like the real thing..both these nail holes are fake :D


Nail hole fret-markers??

Mandarb
05-03-2011, 08:10 AM
Looks great - I love seeing the progress of this build. What about using the fake nails as fret markers?

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
05-03-2011, 08:13 AM
Hey, what about nails as fret markers?

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Gmoney
05-03-2011, 08:16 AM
Hey, what about nails as fret markers?

.

great minds.... :)

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
05-03-2011, 08:20 AM
I'm thinking strapping material as binding.

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
05-03-2011, 08:21 AM
And a big old staple for the saddle.

tattwo
05-03-2011, 08:38 AM
I'm thinking strapping material as binding.

Great idea! ....it could be done

Timbuck
05-03-2011, 11:27 AM
I'm thinking strapping material as binding.
I did consider some 5mm steel cable ...and brass/copper with rivets:cool:

Timbuck
05-04-2011, 06:16 AM
I did a bit more on the neck today I shaped the profile ..Milled out some 6mm grooves and epoxied in two carbon fiber support rods ...if it was Sepela then I wouldn't bother but this timber is more flexible..and the CF rods have been lying around for 12 months doing nothing.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7868/47585219141_4b7854e6fb_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fuWFNM)PICT0008-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2fuWFNM) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
Then I cut the dovetail on my jig..and then did "Petes famous 7 minute neck carve"..only it took me 45 cos' I dont have a drawknife or spokeshave..I did it all with the rasp (No lathe this time)
Then i got to work on the fake nail job.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7900/47585223341_2907b8b7f4_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fuWH4c)PICT0009-1 (https://flic.kr/p/2fuWH4c) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/7891/47585229151_aaf67c48a7_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fuWJMn)PICT0018 (https://flic.kr/p/2fuWJMn) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/7889/47585240581_2babf8114b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fuWNbr)PICT0022-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2fuWNbr) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

sukie
05-04-2011, 06:49 AM
Gee this is fun to watch. Very nice!

Timbuck
05-04-2011, 08:45 AM
Hey, what about nails as fret markers?

.
I've gone off nails..I think i've got enough ...so how about screws???...they act as side spots as well:smileybounce:
https://live.staticflickr.com/7824/33708319858_a76d7ae727_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/TmFX7A)PICT0031 (https://flic.kr/p/TmFX7A) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
05-04-2011, 08:48 AM
Simply brilliant!

Gmoney
05-04-2011, 09:36 AM
I've gone off nails..I think i've got enough ...so how about screws???...they act as side spots as well:smileybounce:


Crazy cool!

UncleElvis
05-04-2011, 09:41 AM
I've gone off nails..I think i've got enough ...so how about screws???...they act as side spots as well:smileybounce:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/PICT0031.jpg

Is...

you...

that's...

I...

You are NOT helping! This is awesome!

bbycrts
05-04-2011, 10:07 AM
Ken - you are getting crazier and crazier with this!

You do realize you're going to have to start building them for sale, don't you?

Pure brilliance.

Susie A
05-04-2011, 12:01 PM
You sir are my hero! Loving this build.

Nuprin
05-04-2011, 01:23 PM
I've gone off nails..I think i've got enough ...so how about screws???...they act as side spots as well:smileybounce:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/PICT0031.jpg

So...freaking...cool.

finkdaddy
05-04-2011, 01:26 PM
You are truly pushing the boundries!

Vic D
05-04-2011, 01:31 PM
Very much loving this thread and this uke.

Steve vanPelt
05-04-2011, 01:50 PM
I've gone off nails..I think i've got enough ...so how about screws???...they act as side spots as well:smileybounce:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/PICT0031.jpg

I've done that several times over the years. But never on purpose.:)

Really enjoying this build, Ken, thanks for posting it.

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
05-04-2011, 02:31 PM
Best thing about this uke is that you don't even have to be careful as you're building it. Drop it on the floor? No problem. In fact, better yet!

Doc_J
05-04-2011, 04:10 PM
Love those fret markers! I'm dying to see what you come up with for the bridge........and head stock

Mungo Park
05-04-2011, 04:39 PM
Are you to far along to show us a photo of your neck dovetail jig.
Yes I have a saw blade that cut a board with screws in it like that, well use to cut, i don't know why i am saving it.
Cheers Ron

GrumpyCoyote
05-04-2011, 05:24 PM
This build makes the world better.

Details are the key for me, and you are knocking it out of the park.

aMawds
05-04-2011, 06:16 PM
Sooo... awesome....
I think I'm in love with every single detail of that uke.

Natsok
05-06-2011, 12:14 AM
HI Ken,
loving the thread, yummy. The router above, have you simply inserted some bushings over the router shaft to create a guide rail. Is the smaller the same diameter as the router bit? Are they made for that purpose or is it one of your fantasitc blue sky work arounds?
Heres a fun and running thread on martins "applied neck joint", pictures page 3

cheers

http://theunofficialmartinguitarforum.yuku.com/topic/118299/Martin-s-New-Applied-Dovetail-What-is-it?page=1

Mungo Park
05-06-2011, 04:27 PM
Thanks for taking that little side trip, very informative.
Cheers Ron

Timbuck
05-07-2011, 04:52 AM
I've reached a crossroads now with this build..I cant decide on the bridge type :confused:... Do I go for the posh CNC Ebony type with adjustable compensating saddles...or do I go the other way and fit the hand made Grot but accurate type made from a piece of padauk pulled from the fire with compensating nail saddle..or shall I have to think of something else. :rolleyes:
https://live.staticflickr.com/7920/40619453623_7117bc2f9b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24Tpjpi)PICT0020-2 (https://flic.kr/p/24Tpjpi) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

SweetWaterBlue
05-07-2011, 05:01 AM
I think the nail saddle fits the theme best.

tattwo
05-07-2011, 05:12 AM
What about using nails or screws as bridge pins?

UncleElvis
05-07-2011, 05:15 AM
Firenail, please!

Although, I should be begging you to stop making this cooler and cooler, as the level of desire I have for this is reaching obsessive levels.

taylordb
05-07-2011, 06:49 AM
I would use a mixture of the two.....the fire damaged padauk but the adjustable compensating saddle of conventional material. I think the nail saddle would sacrifice tone....the uke is cool enough as it is....... looks and tone would what I would want.
Plus, I think it would be hard to service the nail saddle if it ever needs it.....it needs to be functional.

McBruce
05-07-2011, 07:13 AM
Have to agree with taylordb. You want to get the best sound possible, but have it still look cool. A scorched yet compensated bone setup would probably get you there. The nail does look cool, but I wonder at the acoustic properties, might deaden the sound too much.
This build is too cool. Is it going up on EBay? I can see a bidding war starting already.

UncleElvis
05-07-2011, 07:28 AM
Have to agree with taylordb. You want to get the best sound possible, but have it still look cool. A scorched yet compensated bone setup would probably get you there. The nail does look cool, but I wonder at the acoustic properties, might deaden the sound too much.
This build is too cool. Is it going up on EBay? I can see a bidding war starting already.

I'm readying my troops for the coming war already!

I'm not sure how the nail would deaden the sound, though... one would assume it's making full contact with the bridge and soundboard...

Doug W
05-07-2011, 07:49 AM
I would use a mixture of the two.....the fire damaged padauk but the adjustable compensating saddle of conventional material. I think the nail saddle would sacrifice tone....the uke is cool enough as it is....... looks and tone would what I would want.
Plus, I think it would be hard to service the nail saddle if it ever needs it.....it needs to be functional.
If this decision is actually being made by a vote, I side with taylordb for the same reasons.

Timbuck
05-07-2011, 09:11 AM
I've been back to the pallet wood..and found an area where two large knots ran into each other..Normal Trades persons would have rejected that bit...so I cut out that section..and turned it into this...and I like it:drool:
https://live.staticflickr.com/7824/33708554368_a30273fa87_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/TmH9PS)PICT0024-1 (https://flic.kr/p/TmH9PS) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

Vic D
05-07-2011, 09:13 AM
I like it too.

Timbuck
05-07-2011, 09:25 AM
I like it too.

Hi Vic! I thought you'd retired :D........Yes this is the one I'm using..it reminds me of Onyx or Marble..it should look great when the FP goes on..
And I've got a large chunk of ivory colour Corian to make the saddles and nut .

Gmoney
05-07-2011, 11:16 AM
I've been back to the pallet wood..and found an area where two large knots ran into each other..Normal Trades persons would have rejected that bit...so I cut out that section..and turned it into this...and I like it:drool:


Yeah, that will do. Nuff said - Your'e killing Uncle Elvis, you know!?

UncleElvis
05-07-2011, 11:19 AM
I've been back to the pallet wood..and found an area where two large knots ran into each other..Normal Trades persons would have rejected that bit...so I cut out that section..and turned it into this...and I like it:drool:



Yeah, that will do. Nuff said - Your'e killing Uncle Elvis, you know!?

I'll just be over here, curled into a fetal ball, whimpering quietly...

SO COOL!

taylordb
05-07-2011, 12:25 PM
[QUOTE=Timbuck;676716]I've been back to the pallet wood..and found an area where two large knots ran into each other..Normal Trades persons would have rejected that bit...so I cut out that section..and turned it into this...and I like it:drool:
/QUOTE]

That is just too cool! And the fact that it is mostly knot means it will function more like a hardwood.

Doc_J
05-07-2011, 02:38 PM
Ken, I thought you might just be kidding us with the burned wood and nail bridge (although I'm sure it would have worked fine). The palletwood bridge really fits your design concept well IMHO.

Vic D
05-07-2011, 03:06 PM
Hi Vic! I thought you'd retired :D........Yes this is the one I'm using..it reminds me of Onyx or Marble..it should look great when the FP goes on..
And I've got a large chunk of ivory colour Corian to make the saddles and nut .

Lol, nah, it just takes me a bit longer to thaw out than most. No rest for the wicked. I'm loving the corian stuff myself. This is one awesome uke you're building Timbuck.

Don't worry 'bout the little guy below, he'll be fine.

ukegirl13
05-07-2011, 05:35 PM
Timbuck, very, very cool indeed. I am enjoying this thread. Thank you. What a fun build!

Canoe Lady
05-07-2011, 06:01 PM
I will arm wrestle anyone for this one. I am in love with it.

UncleElvis
05-07-2011, 06:11 PM
I will arm wrestle anyone for this one. I am in love with it.

You're on!

McBruce
05-08-2011, 07:17 AM
I'm readying my troops for the coming war already!

I'm not sure how the nail would deaden the sound, though... one would assume it's making full contact with the bridge and soundboard...

I come from a banjo background, and the mass, density, and elasticity of the bridge wood all have major effect on the translation of the vibrations down to the head. I would guess that it's different on a ukulele, but a lot of the top end instruments seem to use bone to get the best tone. The nail would also be epoxied into a groove in the wood, not fit tightly into a slot, so some of the vibes could be lost/muddled there as well. I kind of wish he would use the nail now, just to see how it works out. I love science projects.

Timbuck
05-08-2011, 07:35 AM
Strange what you can find in pallet wood..I was cutting up whats left of the knotty bridge wood..to put on the fire and I came across this.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7833/40619460443_0e0a11362e_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24TpmqT)PICT0029-1 (https://flic.kr/p/24TpmqT) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

sukie
05-08-2011, 08:01 AM
Strange what you can find in pallet wood..I was cutting up whats left of the knotty bridge wood..to put on the fire and I came across this.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/PICT0029-1.jpg

That is too cool to burn.

Mungo Park
05-08-2011, 11:01 AM
I like the bridge from the pallet, looks good, fits the spirit of the build, agree with the banjo way of thinking. The nail bridge would have the sound vibrations traveling through the metal, then epoxy, then wood just to get to the sound board. I think, even though a Nubie at this, this changing of densities causes some of the essence of the sound is lost each time.
Cheers Ron.

UncleElvis
05-08-2011, 11:59 AM
Strange what you can find in pallet wood..I was cutting up whats left of the knotty bridge wood..to put on the fire and I came across this.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/PICT0029-1.jpg

Where are you going to use this on my uke? *grin*

Vic D
05-08-2011, 12:14 PM
Headstock veneer?

Timbuck
05-08-2011, 11:11 PM
TIS' DONE !....and it plays and sounds ok ..Volume = about same as Mahogany
Tone = Very Bright and not as deep as mahogany..intonation= spot on.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7881/46861573384_ae5957bca1_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2eoZP8N)full (https://flic.kr/p/2eoZP8N) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/7883/46861575744_71d1b9e39d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2eoZPQu)hole (https://flic.kr/p/2eoZPQu) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/7838/47532598392_43f7259998_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fqhZuu)bridge-1 (https://flic.kr/p/2fqhZuu) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/7879/47532601292_33198ba06e_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2fqi1mu)FB (https://flic.kr/p/2fqi1mu) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr

SweetWaterBlue
05-08-2011, 11:40 PM
Fantastic job Ken.

HornedOne
05-09-2011, 12:10 AM
It looks absolutely stunning

Ambrosius
05-09-2011, 12:54 AM
This proves it! Fancy and exotic wood like koa and brazillian rosewood, is just for silly people with a need to show off!

Timbuck
05-09-2011, 12:58 AM
Just to prove it works.
click on the "Handsome":D image for vid.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/th_palletukereview.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/shiregreenbod/?action=view&current=palletukereview.mp4)

fitncrafty
05-09-2011, 01:42 AM
Woo that uke sounds great! I can't believe how fast you finished it!! Thanks for sharing that project! SO much fun and looks great too!

Doc_J
05-09-2011, 01:48 AM
That sounds wonderful, not just "ok". Truly a work of art.

Thanks for sharing the build with us.

SweetWaterBlue
05-09-2011, 01:49 AM
If that one goes on eBay, it will be interesting to see how much it goes for, compared to the traditional mahogany ones. After all, its one of a kind.

Mandarb
05-09-2011, 03:05 AM
Looks great. Enjoyed watching the build. Very unique.

Natsok
05-09-2011, 03:17 AM
Hi Ken ,
you, are truely amazing, not only are you a jolly fine maker but most probably the originator of the new sub genre of pallet ukes, it sounds great.
I toast to you and the wonderfull Mrs Timms, as seen making kerfling. I'll be smiling for days, fantastic.

McBruce
05-09-2011, 03:49 AM
Amazing! I'm impressed. It does make you wonder about paying premium for exotic woods. You are truly a master of your craft to be able to make a serious instrument out of a pallet.

Canoe Lady
05-09-2011, 05:51 AM
Wow, I love it. I am a little sad to see this one finished, because the ride has been so enjoyable. The only thing that would make it better is if it ended up in my hands. Will you be selling it?

ricksan66
05-09-2011, 05:56 AM
Totally bada$$!

Vic D
05-09-2011, 06:02 AM
Wicked cool, and I can't believe a pallet could ever sound so good... the sustain there at the end... kept ringing till you shut the video off lol... spectacular build Timbuck!

UncleElvis
05-09-2011, 06:16 AM
PLEASE can I get a link to the ebay page?
It sounds lovely and my overwhelming desire for it hasn't abated.

bbycrts
05-09-2011, 06:26 AM
I'm sad you're done, Ken. This has been so fun to watch and the instrument is a true beauty!

UncleElvis
05-09-2011, 06:32 AM
I'm sad you're done, Ken. This has been so fun to watch and the instrument is a true beauty!

Agreed... I'm sure I'm not the only person who enjoyed watching this insanity!

I'm also sure I'm not the only one saying "What's he going to build one out of next? A police call box? (That should be REALLY resonant... after all, it's bigger on the inside)"

Derg
05-09-2011, 08:29 AM
This might be the best thread ever. Thanks so much for taking us on this journey Ken.

equiplay
05-09-2011, 08:38 AM
Outstanding - the man is a genius.

Canoe Lady
05-09-2011, 10:50 AM
PLEASE can I get a link to the ebay page?
It sounds lovely and my overwhelming desire for it hasn't abated.

Uncle Elvis...maybe we can work together on getting this one and have shared custody...LOL. Seems we both want it badly.

UncleElvis
05-09-2011, 11:28 AM
Uncle Elvis...maybe we can work together on getting this one and have shared custody...LOL. Seems we both want it badly.

heeheeeeee Now yer talkin'!

It's nice to know that if I don't get it, it'll go to a lovely home.

wheelgunner
05-11-2011, 05:08 AM
I've been following this thread with great interest. Just goes to show it's more about the skill of the builder than it is about the materials used. Great job!

UncleElvis
05-11-2011, 05:14 AM
I'm thinking it's more:

"It's just as much about the skill of the builder as it is about materials", as opposed to one over the other.

Jus' sayin'.

Timbuck
05-11-2011, 11:21 AM
For sale!... Pallet Ukulele starter kit's... only $55 plus shipping ..
https://live.staticflickr.com/7861/40614368943_01809a4903_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24SXfUp)PICT0010-2 (https://flic.kr/p/24SXfUp) by Ken Timms (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150702140@N02/), on Flickr
If anyone takes this seriously they need their heads examining:rolleyes:

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
05-11-2011, 11:24 AM
Oh you cunning devil! Now I see the method to your madness.

Spookymoulder
05-11-2011, 12:41 PM
Brilliant!
You have my admiration :]

Timbuck
05-13-2011, 03:27 AM
Uncle Elvis...maybe we can work together on getting this one and have shared custody...LOL. Seems we both want it badly.

Well now's you're chance:D ..it's up for auction
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270749033505

McBruce
05-13-2011, 04:37 AM
The kids don't really HAVE to go to Disneyland this year, do they?

uke552
05-14-2011, 06:13 AM
Incredible uke! I hope the auction does well!

alndrkmp
05-14-2011, 07:06 AM
Inspiring! I build sets for the movies. We use tons of Luan plywood, which delivers on Moranti pallets (Moranti is for some reason the name of Luan when it's solid). You may well indeed have started a new subgenre of ukes. Cheers!

Bad Juju
05-16-2011, 08:54 AM
I just remembered! On one of my visits to Perth, Australia, I picked up a souvenir that was a piece of fencepost that had been lathed into a beer bottle and then fitted with the label of a local brew. The fencepost was made of a tree local to Australia but I don't recall the name. That would be a similar and GREAT project to get a hold of some of those mystery fenceposts and resaw them for a uke. I'll do some research and see if I can figure out what the original tree was. Or maybe one of you guys from Australia already knows what it is.

Tikas
05-20-2011, 05:56 AM
you got a nice amount, for a nice looking, and sounding instument, made out of very cheap materials, good Job!

Pete Howlett
05-20-2011, 07:23 AM
Not enough for what went into it....

Gmoney
05-20-2011, 07:51 AM
Not enough for what went into it....

And it never is. You both do such incredible work that if you priced your ukes for what you put into each, none of us could afford even one of them. Great talent & greater artistry & skill.

mzuch
05-20-2011, 08:21 AM
So did anyone here win the auction?

taylordb
08-23-2014, 03:10 PM
I'm reviving this thread because....well it was an awesome build and think those that have not been around here that long should see it!
I know I enjoyed re-reading this. :-)

ukantor
08-23-2014, 07:59 PM
Ken had this uke with him at the Hollesley Jamboree camping weekend, at the end of July this year. It was the first time I had seen it, and it looks even better in reality. It also plays well, and sounds really good, too.

Top job!

John Colter.

bigphil
08-24-2014, 02:26 AM
I'm reviving this thread because....well it was an awesome build and think those that have not been around here that long should see it!
I know I enjoyed re-reading this. :-)

I'm happy that you resurrected the thread because, as you say, I hadn't seen it. What great fun from an obviously brilliant builder. Great job Ken!

Nickie
12-24-2014, 04:20 PM
Wow, wish I could hear it, but it looks magnificent! Love the fret markers too!

Vespa Bob
12-25-2014, 05:30 PM
Thanks for resurrecting this thread, most enjoyable and enlightening!

Bob

Timbuck
04-11-2019, 02:08 AM
Finaly....I've re-edited all the Photobucket pics ..Now this old thread is back again.