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Doc_J
06-28-2011, 02:21 AM
Saw this on ebay, and my first thought was "Hey, that doesn't look like a Kamaka. " Tuners, binding,fretboard, bridge look incorrect.
But I am frequently wrong.

So, is this a Kamaka? I'd say no.

** turns out I was wrong...again **

http://cgi.ebay.com/Kamaka-Koa-Ukulele-Soprano-Vintage-1972-/330581846740?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf836aad4

Hippie Dribble
06-28-2011, 02:57 AM
any other pics doc?

Stan will know, I'm sure of that. You definitely don't see that celluloid binding on too many of them and yeah, the bridge doesn't look like standard issue Kamaka. But then the shape of the body looks pretty right...

duh...just saw your link doc. I reckon it's a Kamaka but I'm a trusting and gullible soul :o

ukulelecowboy
06-28-2011, 03:16 AM
Hard to say.. Honestly, I can't believe that you can get away with selling a ukulele with a wide shot of the body and of the case. When I sell an instrument I post between 6 and 10 photos.

Amazing. How can you possibly bid on something with so little information?

PedalFreak
06-28-2011, 03:42 AM
My first instinct is to say no. The binding, the bridge. His description says "Kamaka Soprano gold label ukulele is in excellent condition, no cracks or splits. It has a white label inside with “Kamaka Ukulele” in red and black letters"

It's a gold label, but with a white label inside....

I wouldn't buy it without more photos. And even calling Kamaka with the date code and asking them about it.

PhilUSAFRet
06-28-2011, 04:12 AM
I'd just send picture(s) and ask Kamaka like Pedal said

poppy
06-28-2011, 06:57 AM
My concern would be the account hasnt been used since 2007. I would try to contact the account holder via ebay. I always check out the account before even considering a purchase. It also does not carry the paypal guarentee.

olgoat52
06-28-2011, 07:26 AM
You're right about Stan. He the da man! The end graft looks peculiar too for a Kamaka, doesn't it?

olgoat52
06-28-2011, 07:29 AM
I'd just send picture(s) and ask Kamaka like Pedal said

From Kamakas site FAQ.
How do I verify the authenticity of a Kamaka ukulele on eBay?

You can't, unless you have someone who is a Kamaka expert look at it in person for you. Certain features such as the "KK" decal on the headstock, the label in the soundhole, the shape or tuners, may identify a uke as a Kamaka, but are by no means conclusive. You will not know for certain if the uke you bid on is the real deal until you receive it in the mail. We have received countless inquiries at the factory about auctions on eBay for used Kamaka ukuleles. Our expert eyes cannot always identify in the pictures any flaws, repairs, modifications, or even counterfeits for that matter. Although we periodically scan eBay for irregular auctions for our ukes, copyright infringement, and counterfeits, we remain unable to provide reassurance to eBay buyers who choose to purchase ukuleles photographed from their best angle, sound unheard.

Last sentence in particular.

Piikea
06-28-2011, 08:42 AM
Very hard angle to guage if it is authentic or not. The headstock appears to be somewhat correct, the decal is barely visible but appears a double k. The wood, it may have been photographed with bright light, but Kamaka's are usually much darker in appearance and I don't remember ever seeing one with either celluloid or taped off straight binding. The end of the fretboard appears correct on SOME models of Kamaka with the center point, but most either have square, or the older have a one sided fret extention wing down the treble side of the fretboard. THe bridge is much higher and much more "fussy" than a Kamaka which has just a flat knot insert style bridge on the smaller models and tie offs on others. My first inclination is NO. But it might just be the photography.

mm stan
06-28-2011, 08:46 AM
Aloha Gang,
Yes it's a real kamaka and they are rare....they are a deluxe model from the 60's..some were special orders..well mostly.....some have binding from top and I seen one on top and back....
Yes i had one...ha ha here it is...http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad222/ukestan/017.jpg MM Stan

Dan Uke
06-28-2011, 08:52 AM
Looks very similar to this listing that's going for more than $900. What's the chance of having 2 fake on ebay at the same time?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Kamaka-Gold-Label-Solid-Koa-Soprano-Ukulele-1963-/270759674156?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Sting_Instr uments&hash=item3f0a88c12c

Doc_J
06-28-2011, 10:56 AM
Thanks Stan. I learned something today.


Aloha Gang,
Yes it's a real kamaka and they are rare....they are a deluxe model from the 60's..some were special orders..well mostly.....some have binding from top and I seen one on top and back....
Yes i had one...ha ha here it is...http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad222/ukestan/017.jpg MM Stan

Hippie Dribble
06-28-2011, 02:05 PM
aaaah Stan, you've come through again Bruddah. :) Thanks mate.

Dan Uke
06-28-2011, 05:52 PM
The seller should thank you as people will bid knowing it's a real Kamaka!!