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ukulegreg
07-19-2011, 09:07 AM
Any fans of the most important bike race ?

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/2011_tour_de_france/bp1.jpg

RyRod
07-19-2011, 09:36 AM
We watch it every now and then when it's live in the morning (eastern time US). I ride(for fun and exercise) but I can't imagine riding that far and with that many people so close to me. It is cool to see them riding through the old towns, villages, mountains, etc.

I think it's gotten a bit out of hand though. I'd have to seriously hurt somebody if they ran into me with their car when swerving to miss a tree. I saw that happen last week and it was stupid. There's too much going on. Just let them ride their bikes...

AzMichael
07-19-2011, 10:25 AM
Followed it for 20+ years...can't wait for the next few days. Part of me hopes Voekler hangs on, but we all know that's not going to happen. It's been awhile since a Frenchman won. Anybody but Contador wins and I'll be happy.

~Michael

cletus
07-19-2011, 10:45 AM
C'mon George Hincapie!

ukulegreg
07-19-2011, 11:07 AM
Part of me hopes Voekler hangs on, but we all know that's not going to happen. It's been awhile since a Frenchman won. Anybody but Contador wins and I'll be happy.

~Michael

Voeckler can only win with a miracle ( perhaps the snow ! The weather is awful since a few days).
In France , everyone say that Schleck's brothers have a wrong strategy ( no attack , no attack , no attack)

Big stages are for the next days

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Pueo
07-19-2011, 11:22 AM
I love to watch the mountains! They really get cooking on the way down, crazy speeds on those super skinny rock-hard tires.

sukie
07-19-2011, 12:36 PM
I wish Phil would quit talking about Alberto Contador. I wish I understood how the race worked. I wish they'd quit calling it the pelaton, but at least this year I understand what that word means. We watch the race every year. I don't understand most of it. How does someone win it, for instance. But the scenery is outstanding.

I saw the press car run into the riders. Unbelievable how press people operate. Since then it seems as if the cars are not being quite so in their faces.

I'm hoping the British guy - Thomas somebody -- wins.

France
07-19-2011, 06:00 PM
I'm an Australian who has been watching religiously for the last five years, love it. Pity it doesn't finish until two o'clock in the morning. It's starting to take it's toll. Yeah nervous and excited for the next few days about Cadel's chances. Good to see him get away last night. Voeckler showing signs of weakness last night, (if only a little bit), he's been riding like a man possessed. Would be a worthy winner with his determination.

Who are you backing?

cletus
07-19-2011, 06:26 PM
Who are you backing?

:bowdown:Eddie Mercyx:worship: would drop any of these wankers like a bad habit.

Just sayin':cheers:

UncleElvis
07-19-2011, 06:33 PM
My wife is watching it religiously and riding along on her stationary bike.
I'm loving her being in better shape, as it makes her happier.
The constant talking about Contador and the Shlecks and showing me the picture of that guy who got hit by the car all laid out in the field with his clothes ripped off and... heck, I didn't need to see THAT!, and all the nonsense about doping and whatever?
Not loving that so much! *grin*

Hippie Dribble
07-20-2011, 12:48 AM
I'm an Australian who has been watching religiously for the last five years, love it. Pity it doesn't finish until two o'clock in the morning. It's starting to take it's toll. Yeah nervous and excited for the next few days about Cadel's chances. Good to see him get away last night. Voeckler showing signs of weakness last night, (if only a little bit), he's been riding like a man possessed. Would be a worthy winner with his determination.

Who are you backing?

Can't get enough of it. Totally addicted and have been for years. I haven't missed a minute of this years yet. I love the scenery, the awesome commentary and the way they distill team and indivdual tactics. It's been shocking weather this year which has detracted for the gloriously filmed scenic shots a little, but nonetheless, a brilliant coverage we get here in OZ.

Sukie, there are a number of categories , each with it's own winner. But the main prize is the "General Classification" category (the yellow jersey) which is awarded to the rider who completes the tour in the shortest time overall. Other categories are the green jersey for highest scoring sprinter, the polkadot jersey for the 'King of the Mountains', the white jersey for best young rider.

There are all sorts of tactics but it would take me a page to lay em all out.

Voeckler did show some weakness last night but what a tour for him. Gotta love him. Can we dare to hope that Cadel could win? This is the best position he's ever been in, and finally, has a great team united behind him, unlike previous years where he's been hung out to dry. It's an Evans victory for me...the way he responded to Contador's attack last night was just awesome...and then took a few more seconds off him to rub it in. Very encouraging. Not sure where the Schleck's are but Andy doesn't appear he's going to be the threat we all thought. Frank still worries me a bit though...got the feeling he stuck it out with Andy last night to carry him home but things might change in the high Alps...we'll see

Mandarb
07-20-2011, 03:00 AM
Yeah - I enjoy watching it and have for many, many years.

Mandarb
07-20-2011, 03:01 AM
[QUOTE=sukie;729847]I I don't understand most of it. How does someone win it, for instance.QUOTE]

Lowest overall time.

sukie
07-20-2011, 07:32 AM
Sukie, there are a number of categories , each with it's own winner. But the main prize is the "General Classification" category (the yellow jersey) which is awarded to the rider who completes the tour in the shortest time overall. Other categories are the green jersey for highest scoring sprinter, the polkadot jersey for the 'King of the Mountains', the white jersey for best young rider.




[QUOTE=sukie;729847]I I don't understand most of it. How does someone win it, for instance.QUOTE]

Lowest overall time.

Thanks guys. That part I sorta get. What I don't get (and you needn't explain if you don't want to) is how someone gets a lower overall time. It's my understanding that if a rider is in the pelaton that rider gets the same time as all the other bikers. Weird, but that sorta makes sense. But I don't often see too many riders sneaking up ahead. Some do, but it seems the announcers are always talking about a strategy. It's ok I don't really "get" it though. The scenery is gorgeous. My husband has been out of town and I need to catch up when he gets back home.

Mandarb
07-20-2011, 08:10 AM
[QUOTE=Mandarb;730188]

Thanks guys. That part I sorta get. What I don't get (and you needn't explain if you don't want to) is how someone gets a lower overall time. It's my understanding that if a rider is in the pelaton that rider gets the same time as all the other bikers. Weird, but that sorta makes sense. But I don't often see too many riders sneaking up ahead. Some do, but it seems the announcers are always talking about a strategy. It's ok I don't really "get" it though. The scenery is gorgeous. My husband has been out of town and I need to catch up when he gets back home.

The peloton is the main group of riders. When there are a bunch of riders coming in at the same time they all get the same time for that day. If you finish with a group of riders in 4 hrs (you all get 4 hrs) and I am behind you on the road with another group of riders and we finish in 4 hrs 30 minutes (we all get 4 hrs 30 minutes) - you have a lowerall overall time then me. What they usually do not show on the TV is all of the other riders finishing behind the main group. Hope that helps.

hoosierhiver
07-20-2011, 08:53 AM
Saw a bit of it today, the scenery anyway, didn't pay attention to the bikers.

ukulegreg
07-20-2011, 10:07 AM
[QUOTE=Mandarb;730188]

Thanks guys. That part I sorta get. What I don't get (and you needn't explain if you don't want to) is how someone gets a lower overall time. It's my understanding that if a rider is in the pelaton that rider gets the same time as all the other bikers. Weird, but that sorta makes sense. But I don't often see too many riders sneaking up ahead. Some do, but it seems the announcers are always talking about a strategy. It's ok I don't really "get" it though. The scenery is gorgeous. My husband has been out of town and I need to catch up when he gets back home.

For easier stages ( no difficult slope) often bikers finish in the same time in peloton. But it's important too to win a stage.
For hard stages, like these days, with hard slope, riders are going to accelerate in order to outdistance the others.
For tomorrow
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AzMichael
07-23-2011, 06:10 AM
CRIKEY CADEL!!!

Hell of a ride today...congratulations Australia!

~Michael

saltytri
07-23-2011, 06:48 AM
Can we dare to hope that Cadel could win? This is the best position he's ever been in, and finally, has a great team united behind him, unlike previous years where he's been hung out to dry. It's an Evans victory for me...

Oz must be bursting with pride!

Here's a Yank cyclist who couldn't be more pleased. Cadel is a talented guy and a hard worker. He rode a smart race and earned his win. As our French friends say, "Chapeau!"

France
07-23-2011, 02:33 PM
WooHoo! All those late nights have been repayed.

sukie
07-25-2011, 07:11 AM
Congrats to Cadel! Now I have to wait another year to use my newfound knowledge. :-(

Thanks, guys.

hopkid
07-25-2011, 04:06 PM
Just saw this thread as I was on vacation last week and didn't have much access to the Internet but was able to follow the TdF as much as possible. I've followed it for the past 25 years and I just love it. That love turned into my main form of exercise as I ride 2500-3000 miles a year on my road bike.

Glad to see Cadel win this year. He rode a perfect race and missed out on all the bad luck that seemed to hit a lot of riders this year. Quite an exciting race this year. Best in recent memory!

I have to add that I just don't get the anti-Contador contingent. I guess it's probably the same sentiment as the anti-Lance crowd or anti-[insert name of perennial winning rider/team/player here]. Folks love to hate a winner. I thought he had a lot of bad luck (some due to bad judgement) and that the way he fought in the Alps was admirable.

Can't wait for next year's edition!

AzMichael
07-25-2011, 04:09 PM
Congrats to Cadel! Now I have to wait another year to use my newfound knowledge. :-(

Thanks, guys.

Actually, the Vuelta a Espaņa (the Tour of Spain) starts in just few weeks! Most of the same riders...just more screaming Basque fans, dressed in even more orange, waving even more Basque flags. Lots of fun!

~Michael

ukulegreg
07-26-2011, 04:32 AM
I have to add that I just don't get the anti-Contador contingent. I guess it's probably the same sentiment as the anti-Lance crowd or anti-[insert name of perennial winning rider/team/player here]. Folks love to hate a winner.


and don't like dopage suspicion . . .:p . But I'm agree , he was brave in the Alps.

I'm happy for Cadel Evans , he was very unlucky in previous years.

Great pics on big picture or totallycoolpix:
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/07/2011_tour_de_france_part_2.html
http://totallycoolpix.com/2011/07/tour-de-france-2011-3rd-week-highlights/

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/2011_tour_de_france_2/bp22.jpg

hopkid
07-26-2011, 05:31 AM
Great pics on big picture or totallycoolpix:
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/07/2011_tour_de_france_part_2.html
http://totallycoolpix.com/2011/07/tour-de-france-2011-3rd-week-highlights/]

Thanks for the link to the pics, ukulegreg! That one of Laurens Ten Dam on boston.com really illustrates the resolve and determination of the hard men of this sport.

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/2011_tour_de_france_2/bp11.jpg

sukie
07-26-2011, 06:57 AM
I have to add that I just don't get the anti-Contador contingent.

I hope you don't mean me. I'm not really a fan of any of them as I don't know a whole lot about them. I only got tired of Phil talking about him, because he talked about AC like he would, for sure, win. He was in 7th place at that point. The other riders were doing a better job and I thought he should talk them up.

hopkid
07-26-2011, 07:13 AM
I hope you don't mean me. I'm not really a fan of any of them as I don't know a whole lot about them. I only got tired of Phil talking about him, because he talked about AC like he would, for sure, win. He was in 7th place at that point. The other riders were doing a better job and I thought he should talk them up.

No, not directed at you sukie. :)

Even I got tired of Versus' daily showing of each of AC's crashes. Yes, we know he's the defending champion. Yes, he's had a lot of bad luck. We know, we know, already! I even sent them an email telling them to knock it off.

ukulegreg
07-06-2013, 06:18 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BN02DHcCMAArB0O.jpg

Well...

Hippie Dribble
07-06-2013, 08:52 PM
Well...

Ha ha Greg....well indeed.

Froome can't possibly lose unless a bad accident happens. Team Sky were incredible yesterday. I was very excited by Nairo Quintana's brave move in the mountains, that was amazing riding, and a shame it didn't last. But wow, we have the winner already and barely into the second week.

Now it's to just hope for some great breakaway's and stage wins from underdogs, and to enjoy more beautiful scenery for the next two weeks...

I must say I am very proud of Richie Porte. He took Froome all the way yesterday and probably could have kept going himself. He clearly showed why he is the best domestique rider in the world and why he could win a Grand Tour himself soon. Also, he was born and raised only about 30 minutes drive from me, in a little town called Hadspen in northern Tasmania, so I am a big fan of him. :)

Today's stage could be very interesting...

LimousinLil
07-06-2013, 11:23 PM
Who IS this Cadel Evans? Got really into the Tour last year when "Sir Bradley" was coming up trumps. Might do the same this year now it looks as though Chris Froome is in the running. For the moment, can't though, as there is a little matter of Andy Murray and the Wimbledon final this afternoon!

(As a matter of interest, living in France, friends of ours have stationed themselves along the route when it comes over in our direction - it doesn't pass anywhere close this year - and, having waited for hours, the whole thing is suddenly over in a flash. Probably better to watch on the telly!)

Val

Hippie Dribble
07-06-2013, 11:38 PM
Who IS this Cadel Evans? Got really into the Tour last year when "Sir Bradley" was coming up trumps. Might do the same this year now it looks as though Chris Froome is in the running. For the moment, can't though, as there is a little matter of Andy Murray and the Wimbledon final this afternoon!

(As a matter of interest, living in France, friends of ours have stationed themselves along the route when it comes over in our direction - it doesn't pass anywhere close this year - and, having waited for hours, the whole thing is suddenly over in a flash. Probably better to watch on the telly!)

Val
YES! Val, it's TV heaven tonight - our time it'll be roughly between 10pm and 2am - Le Tour AND the men's Wimbledon final....the only thing good about July in Tasmania believe me :p Oh, and Chris Froome is better than in the running. He is the winner barring any major mishaps...mind you, it is the Tour de France where mishaps are many and frequent, but it's very difficult to see anyone pulling back that time, especially as he has such an awesome team around him. Enjoy the final Val...I'll be going for Novak I must confess but I hope it's a great match. I'll be switching back and forth between the channels.

LimousinLil
07-07-2013, 07:20 AM
Yippee!

Murray won - but what a match! You must all be suffering from sleep-deprivation down there in Australia, Jon! Have just read that Chris Froome has retained the yellow jersey despite having no support from his team. I must now concentrate on the Tour and get clued up on the finer points!

Val

Hippie Dribble
07-07-2013, 05:53 PM
Fantastic match to be sure and congrats to Andy Murray.

As for Richie....Richie? RICHIE????

I think he's still racing... :(

LimousinLil
07-07-2013, 10:50 PM
YES! Val, it's TV heaven tonight - our time it'll be roughly between 10pm and 2am - Le Tour AND the men's Wimbledon final....the only thing good about July in Tasmania believe me :p Oh, and Chris Froome is better than in the running. He is the winner barring any major mishaps...mind you, it is the Tour de France where mishaps are many and frequent, but it's very difficult to see anyone pulling back that time, especially as he has such an awesome team around him. Enjoy the final Val...I'll be going for Novak I must confess but I hope it's a great match. I'll be switching back and forth between the channels.
Promise this will be absolutely my last post regarding the Tour de France! But, Jon, please excuse my ignorance - and I have "googled" to try and find the answer and avoid asking daft questions - how is it possible to predict two weeks' in advance that Chris Froome will win? I think there must be a vast chunk of knowledge missing in my understanding of cycle racing! (And, as an afterthought, I have noticed that the bookies are offering 1/5 odds for a win by CF - so there you go!) Please explain! (Then I'll get back to the serious business of learning the ukulele!)

Rodney.
07-08-2013, 12:07 AM
Combined efforts of multiple teams to isolate him worked, but no one had any juice left to do something substantial with it. Porte losing minutes isn't the end of the world, but Kyrienka being out of time is a big loss for the Sky-team. Froomes TT-skills will probably gain him a few minutes over the lesser skilled numbers 2 till 5 in the overall standings, and in the mountains he has proved to be equal or better than most. I can't see how anything but a really, really bad day in the Alps will keep Froome from winning this TdF. The fact that my two fellow countrymen are 3d and 4th overall after the Pyrenees seems to prove that the sport has become cleaner. But as someone who has been following cycling closely for over 30 years I must say that I still think the majority of the peloton is still cheating. But hey, I'm a sceptic on a bad day.

Hippie Dribble
07-08-2013, 03:37 PM
Rodney I am just as much a sceptic as you are and yes, I believe exactly the same thing. No, Porte losing time isn't a problem for the Sky team, just for HIM! I was anxious for him to finish high up in the GC this year, but the previous day obviously took more out of him than I'd realised. Besides, yesterday was a gruelling stage to say the least with 4 cat 1 climbs. Was pleased to see Evans stick with Froome and the yellow jersey group.

Val, Froome is one of the best climbers in the peleton and also one of the excellent time-trialers. It's just hard to see how anyone will pick up substantial enough time on him on the remaining stages unless, like Rodney said, he has one very, very bad day. The fact that he more than held his own in the face of strong opposition yesterday and was isolated (losing the protection of his race team members) for most of the stage showed his incredible strength.

I'll still be hoping for some great attacks against the yellow jersey but not holding my breath they will amount to anything...

cletus
07-08-2013, 03:54 PM
I first got interested in cycling when I saw what Greg Lemond did to Laurent Fignon on the last stage...

just sayin' ...shit happens.

Hippie Dribble
07-08-2013, 04:07 PM
I first got interested in cycling when I saw what Greg Lemond did to Laurent Fignon on the last stage...

just sayin' ...shit happens.

I remember it too Mark. That was a great Tour....aaaaah, but it was heartbreaking....those blasted aerobars. :p

cletus
07-08-2013, 04:33 PM
http://balls.ie/cycling/spectator-moons-peloton-at-the-tour-de-france/

This was awesome!:biglaugh:

Hippie Dribble
07-08-2013, 04:57 PM
HAHA!!! That's great. Seen some pretty bad mankinis this year too. :uhoh: Here's a nice little clip I just found


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4GnS5RyNbY

we tigers
07-08-2013, 09:44 PM
I've been a huge cycling fan pretty much all my life. So I try watch the Tour everyday. Most of the time just snippets and a recap, but it's always summer holiday fun. I really like it this year. It feels like a more level playing ground and hey, we even have a few Dutchmen competing at the front. Mollema is third, Ten Dam fourth, wow!

Skinny Money McGee
07-12-2013, 02:21 AM
What bugs me about the Tour is the timing. How on earth do you get the same time as the winner of the stage when your still 2 kilometer's behind? or 100 meters for that matter. Seems to me they could set up a large bar code reader at the starting line and the finish line, and scan the riders as they come through. They wear numbers on their backs, they could easily add a bar code to the number placard. That way they could time them down to 1000th of a second when they all come through in a pack.

The down side may be, they would all be trying to cram into the finish line and more crashes could occur.

ukulegreg
07-14-2013, 12:49 AM
Mont Ventoux today !
http://www.lesdemeuresduventoux.com/ima/galeries/mont_ventoux/mont_ventoux_08.jpg

Hippie Dribble
07-14-2013, 01:42 AM
Mont Ventoux today !


Can't wait!!! :drool:

cletus
07-14-2013, 02:00 PM
Mister Froom is one bad mofo! Yellow jersey and King of the Mountains...holy shit.

Hippie Dribble
07-14-2013, 02:59 PM
That was unbelievable what he did yesterday.

Hippie Dribble
07-15-2013, 12:03 PM
The peeps are talking...

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/50180/I-m-no-cheat-like-Armstrong-says-Froome

Rodney.
07-16-2013, 12:33 AM
What bugs me about the Tour is the timing. How on earth do you get the same time as the winner of the stage when your still 2 kilometer's behind? or 100 meters for that matter. Seems to me they could set up a large bar code reader at the starting line and the finish line, and scan the riders as they come through. They wear numbers on their backs, they could easily add a bar code to the number placard. That way they could time them down to 1000th of a second when they all come through in a pack.

The down side may be, they would all be trying to cram into the finish line and more crashes could occur.

The riders all have transponders on their bikes, which gives the exact time when they cross the line. The downside you mentioned is one of the reasons it works the way it works. When the riders are in the same group every rider gets the same time. It would be a total mayhem if this wouldn't be the case. They extended the rules a couple of years ago with the 3km-rule for flat stages: when a crash occurs within the last three kilometers of the race all riders that are involved get the same time as the winner. This prevents GC-riders to mix with the teams preparing the sprints, so their will be less riders trying to be at the front at the end of the race. Less riders means more room means less chance of a crash.

coolkayaker1
07-16-2013, 01:15 AM
I've never been to the Tour De France, but I have enjoyed the Tour of Italy at Olive Garden, which is fettuccini Alfredo, lasagna and ribbon pasta, with unlimited salad and breadsticks.

Worth trying for any cyclists who have no desire to win.