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webby
08-10-2011, 11:59 PM
First of all, before you all start heading for the reply button in an air clawing rage, I think the Ukulele is a great little instrument, is heaps of fun to play, great way to introduce kids to music, an I am glad picked one up and took it a bit seriously there for a while.

But.... I am a guitar player, I have spent 38 of my 44 years on this planet learning to be a good guitarist, it's my main instrument, even though I can play a few other instruments semi well (sax, piano, percussion etc..), the guitar has always and will always be my instrument of choice and my greatest musical love.

So where does the Ukulele fit in to this picture, I'm speaking purely from a personal point of view but the uke is nothing more really than a cool extra thing to be able to play a few tunes on, it's fun, it's got its place in a band (a limited place but on the occasional song it really works well).

As for mastering it, I don't really want to, I just wanted to be able to play one reasonable confidently, Ukes had always baffled me, Firstly for decades one very rarely came across one, and when you did it was either an unstrung antique wreck in some pawn shop or a 15,000 dollar piece of 1920's art that someone had dragged along to the antiques roadshow or a 20 dollar bright pink toy that was unplayable.

So when a friend of mine started raving about ukes a year ago, I barely lifted an eyebrow for the first couple of weeks, then he kept on raving about them, he got himself a few and started playing them on skype at me, and eventually drove 200 miles to place one in my hands and say "have that for a while, its the only way you will understand".

Well, I got hooked, as soon as I worked out that all my guitar chords worked out and pretty much you could just ignore the high G at first then I really got into it. I went searching on the web and found this community and of course all the standard youtube acts that are the top of the tree, jake and iz and such like.

So now, after 6 months of practice, and my wallet a few hundred dollars lighter after buying a few different cheapies, an eleuke, a nice concert for the wife and a bunch of dolphins for kids and teaching, where am I left as musician ?

Where is my uke playing going ?

well its jumped the shark with me I'm afraid, I played my guitar again this week after abandoning it pretty much totally for ages, and I really see and feel the difference as a player in the level of satisfaction each instrument gives me, the uke makes me happy and up, in a real fun mood, but nailing a piece like drifting on the guitar with no mistakes is 100 times more exhilarating and satisfying musically than anything I've done on the uke.

So the uke will always get thrown in with all the other gear whenever I go to play, just because Its kinda cool to be able to pull it out at the appropriate moment and bang out a good swing tune or a uke classic or two, but if I want to play the Beatles, I'll fingerpick it on six strings thanks, and If I want to accompany a vocalist or sit in as a part of the jazz rhythm section or skank along with reggae, I'll take the guitar thanks.

It's been great learning the basics on the uke, but I don't wanna waste/spend any more time dicking around with what is never in reality going to be more than a novelty thing for me, its like having a tambourine or maracas in the kit bag.

So for that reason, i don't want to spend any more money on them, I have a perfectly good uke that I spent 300 bucks on, and even that is a bit over the top, a dolphin would have done, wish i'd bought one of them first actually.

Like I'm not going to go out and buy a 1000 dollar tambourine, any more than I'm going to buy a 1000 dollar uke, its total overkill imo unless you ARE up to Jakes standard or aspire to be.

So thanks everyone for all the info and help and support I have gotten in this group over the last few months as I was learning, and I will be continuing to push for every school kid under 10 to have access to a uke, but as for me personally, I'm a guitar player again, sorry guys.

best regards to all

webby

ItsMrPitchy
08-11-2011, 12:24 AM
Do what you wanna do im not gonna lecture you on what you should or should not play. I will say its the other way round for me not that the guitar is a novelty just that i find the uke more satisfying to learn. I respect your opinion and i know that seeing the uke as the best instrument is not for all but for me and many others it is.

Hippie Dribble
08-11-2011, 12:28 AM
Fair enough webby. It's just as important to know what you like and why you like it as it is to know what you don't like.

As a guitarist myself I am convinced that if you had developed a passion for the ukulele, it would have overtaken you and you would be more aware of it's complexities and potential.

I played a bang around uke here and there for nearly 3 years before the penny dropped and I really was hooked and determined to achieve a heightened skill level in my playing. Through that time the guitar was still my main instrument.

Two more years on I rarely touch my guitar. I feel the uke is as adaptable as a guitar and is a wonderful instrument that allows for seamless genre hopping. I have not yet found a style of music the uke can't play. I also feel it is a more sympathetic to the voice than a guitar is.

All that said, you've given it a go and found through experience what many 'snobbish' 6 stringers dismiss in ignorance. Hope you'll still be spending a little bit of time with us here mate.

Hey, we are all music lovers first, uke lovers second. Thanks for your honesty and for the start of what I know will be a great thread. Cheers and blessings bro.

austin1
08-11-2011, 12:33 AM
whatever makes you happy, man! You're a guitar player who can also play the uke--that is nothing to be ashamed of.

23skidoo
08-11-2011, 12:40 AM
As a guitarist who picked up the uke this spring myself, I see where you're coming from, but I've had a different experience. I settled into this routine where I play them pretty much equally..... a big happy stringed instrument family. I've been doing some basic recording lately, and I've started using guitar & uke together..... my wife plays guitar and we play together all the time, with me on uke, mostly. I don't see any reason not to play both - week to week, one or the other gets more attention, but I play enough that there's plenty of love to go around.... in fact, I've even picked up my bass lately and started playing it more. More cowbell!

Have fun playing guitar.....

SuzukHammer
08-11-2011, 02:22 AM
First off, I am envious of people who have long fingers. I don't. And guitar eluded me.

In searching for a chord progression instrument, I found the uke to be portable (to carry around anywhere) and playable (fat finger redemption).

I may try (and I already bought one) a 6 stringer because I have too many guitar books I've used to transpose into uke tabs.

Its kinda funny that you take a jab at those purchasing higher priced ukes and you state a dolphin is enough. I think that is funny and shows that you didn't delve deep enough into the ukulele haze which, for me, has turned into a sweet little passion try different designs and woods of the uke. I think the uke is much more aesthetic than a guitar.

Have fun whatever you do. You are lucky you've had music in your life for so long.

pulelehua
08-11-2011, 02:26 AM
From a purely technical standpoint, the ukulele is a more limited instrument. Far fewer notes. Most ukuleles have quite a smaller dynamic range, due to body size and number of strings.

Those are the things I love. You've got to create a world in this little space.

But I think it's totally understandable to not prefer that. And your OP sounds like an apology, which is totally unnecessary.

Incidentally, I once saw a Brazilian percussionist do a solo concert where, for about 10 minutes, he was playing a snare drum with a very leafy, 5 foot-long eucalyptus branch. Mesmerising. Don't give up on the tambourine so easily. ;)

Marcy325
08-11-2011, 02:28 AM
After trying unsuccessfully to learn the guitar a few times due to my short fingers, I was lucky to find that I could teach myself to play the uke, and with lots of practice, play pretty well, although it's only been a little more than a year. To get great and get the full potential of a ukulele takes years, just like any real instrument. I love my ukes, and that I can finally play an instument, not merely sing along to other people playing. But deep down I wish I could play the guitar,and I haven't given up the idea that one day I will, now that my short fingers have gotten used to forming chords. But, ultimately, whatever the instrument, for those of us who love and live for music, the idea is just to play, and play some more, no matter what the instrument is.

RichM
08-11-2011, 02:43 AM
No sense in doing something you don't enjoy. The most important thing is that you tried something new and made an informed decision as to whether it was a fit for you or not. My life is littered with instruments that just weren't a good fit-- there's a lap steel guitar sitting in my music room right now gathering dust because I just didn't connect with it. But trying new instruments has brought me so much joy over the years,and exposed me to so much new music (I can't believe I didn't know who George Formby was until this year!), that I'll never stop experimenting, and I hope you won't, either.

UncleElvis
08-11-2011, 03:28 AM
"But.... I am a guitar player..."

I think that sums it up, no?

For me, the novelty of it is the appeal.
As a frontman, the hardest part of the job is getting the audience's attention. Having a ukulele - the relative uniqueness of it, playing a rocking song on it that doesn't sound like tiptoe, showing that, while funny, it doesn't have to be a joke - that catches their attention.

But different strokes, y'know? If it's not for you, then so be it.

dhoenisch
08-11-2011, 03:48 AM
Hey Webby, I just want to add here that I can appreciate what you have said. For me, I am a banjo player who happens to play the guitar, mandolin and ukulele. I've had a ukulele for about two or three years, and for that time, it remained a novelty instrument that I picked up from time to time. Heck, it even still had the stock strings on it (until recently) all that time because I guess I just never thought of it as a real instrument. Well, after purchasing 9 ukes that needed help, I found this board and became instantly hooked. I have to say, like you, I am sort of abandoning all the other instruments, including my beloved banjo, but since I do gig with at least the banjo and guitar and play at church, they do get played (I am just learning the mandolin), just not as often as they used to. However, I do play the uke all the time now. Not a day goes by that I don't pick it up. Anyhow, I do consider myself a banjo player who also plays the uke, guitar and mandolin. Hopefully yo will always have a little room for the uke though.

Dan

PoiDog
08-11-2011, 04:11 AM
I guess webby's story is a good example of the definition of "personal preference", eh?

Just as I seriously doubt anyone will want to string him up for no longer being infatuated with the 'ukulele, I don't think anyone else ought to go preaching to people who like the uke about how its time has passed (not that webby was doing this at all). I've actually met some people who are of the mind that the 'ukulele is a fad or a toy or a gimmick instrument, and have gone out of their way to try and convince me that my interest is not genuine. Seems odd to me for anyone to do that, or for anyone to play something that doesn't interest them. I don't play the guitar because it doesn't feel right to me. I play the 'ukulele because when I was living in Honolulu I became infatuated with it when my wife's family would bring it out to play while having a few pau hana beers and talking story. The 'ukulele fits my personality and attitude better than the guitar. Or the trumpet, or the piano, or the accordion. But that's just me.

And lastly, regardless of whether webby is going back to focus on the guitar, something tells me that he'll keep at least one around, and at some point in the future he may pick it up to rediscover the unique and endearing qualities of it. Just as a guitar is not a uke, an 'ukulele is not a guitar, and one should never be used to replace the other.

Lori
08-11-2011, 05:56 AM
Finding the right instrument is a wonderful thing. I happily played classical guitar when I was a high school/ college student. Later, I took up the banjo, which was fun, and got a few lessons, and played with friends. But, the work rat race took over, and I got too tired and busy to play. So, a long lapse happened, and I was awoken by the ukulele. It was just what I needed to get back into music again. I had tried taking some keyboard classes, and I was getting better, but not really connecting with it like the stringed instruments. I started playing guitar again, but it is so big in cumbersome to take out and play (small, cramped apartment), that it becomes too much of a chore for casual playing. The uke is the perfect size, and I can take it anywhere easily. The guitar and banjo are a pain to tote around, and so I never did it. But ukes are great travelers. The smaller size is much more comfortable for me to play, and I can play classical and melodic songs with the same satisfaction as my guitar. I am going to keep my guitar and banjo, because I still want to play them occasionally and like the deep bass notes, but the uke has taken over my day-to-day music focus. I just wish I had discovered it earlier!

Webby, so glad you found your instrument. Want to play a duet?
–Lori

didgeridoo2
08-11-2011, 06:43 AM
Whew! One less person looking at the Collings in the marketplace...

Mandarb
08-11-2011, 06:51 AM
First of all, before you all start heading for the reply button in an air clawing rage, I think the Ukulele is a great little instrument, is heaps of fun to play, great way to introduce kids to music, an I am glad picked one up and took it a bit seriously there for a while.

But.... I am a guitar player, I have spent 38 of my 44 years on this planet learning to be a good guitarist, it's my main instrument, even though I can play a few other instruments semi well (sax, piano, percussion etc..), the guitar has always and will always be my instrument of choice and my greatest musical love.

So where does the Ukulele fit in to this picture, I'm speaking purely from a personal point of view but the uke is nothing more really than a cool extra thing to be able to play a few tunes on, it's fun, it's got its place in a band (a limited place but on the occasional song it really works well).

As for mastering it, I don't really want to, I just wanted to be able to play one reasonable confidently, Ukes had always baffled me, Firstly for decades one very rarely came across one, and when you did it was either an unstrung antique wreck in some pawn shop or a 15,000 dollar piece of 1920's art that someone had dragged along to the antiques roadshow or a 20 dollar bright pink toy that was unplayable.

So when a friend of mine started raving about ukes a year ago, I barely lifted an eyebrow for the first couple of weeks, then he kept on raving about them, he got himself a few and started playing them on skype at me, and eventually drove 200 miles to place one in my hands and say "have that for a while, its the only way you will understand".

Well, I got hooked, as soon as I worked out that all my guitar chords worked out and pretty much you could just ignore the high G at first then I really got into it. I went searching on the web and found this community and of course all the standard youtube acts that are the top of the tree, jake and iz and such like.

So now, after 6 months of practice, and my wallet a few hundred dollars lighter after buying a few different cheapies, an eleuke, a nice concert for the wife and a bunch of dolphins for kids and teaching, where am I left as musician ?

Where is my uke playing going ?

well its jumped the shark with me I'm afraid, I played my guitar again this week after abandoning it pretty much totally for ages, and I really see and feel the difference as a player in the level of satisfaction each instrument gives me, the uke makes me happy and up, in a real fun mood, but nailing a piece like drifting on the guitar with no mistakes is 100 times more exhilarating and satisfying musically than anything I've done on the uke.

So the uke will always get thrown in with all the other gear whenever I go to play, just because Its kinda cool to be able to pull it out at the appropriate moment and bang out a good swing tune or a uke classic or two, but if I want to play the Beatles, I'll fingerpick it on six strings thanks, and If I want to accompany a vocalist or sit in as a part of the jazz rhythm section or skank along with reggae, I'll take the guitar thanks.

It's been great learning the basics on the uke, but I don't wanna waste/spend any more time dicking around with what is never in reality going to be more than a novelty thing for me, its like having a tambourine or maracas in the kit bag.

So for that reason, i don't want to spend any more money on them, I have a perfectly good uke that I spent 300 bucks on, and even that is a bit over the top, a dolphin would have done, wish i'd bought one of them first actually.

Like I'm not going to go out and buy a 1000 dollar tambourine, any more than I'm going to buy a 1000 dollar uke, its total overkill imo unless you ARE up to Jakes standard or aspire to be.

So thanks everyone for all the info and help and support I have gotten in this group over the last few months as I was learning, and I will be continuing to push for every school kid under 10 to have access to a uke, but as for me personally, I'm a guitar player again, sorry guys.

best regards to all

webby

....okay....

Dan Uke
08-11-2011, 06:56 AM
Totally understand you however I jumped the shark with the guitar. However, I realize I like ukes that sound more like a guitar ie tenor ukes or looking for a Compass Rose. Different strokes for different folks.

Teek
08-11-2011, 08:15 AM
Cool beans and lots of 'em.

Noobulele
08-11-2011, 08:28 AM
Cya later.

ukulelecowboy
08-11-2011, 08:31 AM
Not sure that I understand why you posted. Your diatribe essentially reduces the ukulele to an insignificant "fun" and "cool" little instrument incapable of reproducing serious music except for banging out a tune now and then. And this is after it's been casually thrown into a gear bag for just such an occasion. Your comments lack a certain sensitivity.

RichM
08-11-2011, 09:02 AM
Not sure that I understand why you posted. Your diatribe essentially reduces the ukulele to an insignificant "fun" and "cool" little instrument incapable of reproducing serious music except for banging out a tune now and then. And this is after it's been casually thrown into a gear bag for just such an occasion. Your comments lack a certain sensitivity.

Oh, I could find a dozen things worse than that in there. But I've found that when people are saying goodbye, the easiest thing to do is smile and wave.

:)

austin1
08-11-2011, 09:06 AM
Not sure that I understand why you posted. Your diatribe essentially reduces the ukulele to an insignificant "fun" and "cool" little instrument incapable of reproducing serious music except for banging out a tune now and then. And this is after it's been casually thrown into a gear bag for just such an occasion. Your comments lack a certain sensitivity.

The man's evidently well aware the ukulele can produce some serious sound. He said it himself. But people are allowed to enjoy playing the ukulele, without playing intense Oscar-worthy music. You are allowed to reserve the uke to bang out stupid songs on, if you so desire. It does not lessen it for those of us who enjoy putting serious music on to such a small instrument. He's not insulting you, ukulelecowboy. He's not even insulting the ukulele. He's just saying it's not his thing. He likes it, but it's not his thing. There's no crime in that.

Here, I went back and found the line for you:




It's been great learning the basics on the uke, but I don't wanna waste/spend any more time dicking around with what is never in reality going to be more than a novelty thing for me, its like having a tambourine or maracas in the kit bag.


The important part, that he states explicitly, is for him. Not for you, not for me, not for all the other ukulele enthusiasts. For him. He's just not as into it as you are. How can you fault him for that?

pulelehua
08-11-2011, 09:59 AM
I only ever play intense Oscar-worthy music.

itsme
08-11-2011, 10:18 AM
From a purely technical standpoint, the ukulele is a more limited instrument. Far fewer notes. Most ukuleles have quite a smaller dynamic range, due to body size and number of strings.
Very true.

A recurring theme here at UU is how people came to the uke because "I sucked at guitar" or "my hands are too small to play guitar" or such.

As someone who's spent many years studying classical guitar, I can honestly say it's a lot challenging and requires a lot more dedication and hard work than just learning to chug out a few chords on uke. And I don't mean that to sound snobbish at all, it just is what it is.

Different strokes for different folks.

OP, I wish you the best of luck in all your musical endeavors. :)

cheekmeat
08-11-2011, 11:11 AM
As someone who's spent many years studying classical guitar, I can honestly say it's a lot challenging and requires a lot more dedication and hard work than just learning to chug out a few chords on uke.

I should be pointed out however that years of studying classical guitar is a lot more challenging and requires a lot more dedication and hard work than just learning to chug out a few chords on guitar, mandolin, charango or any instrument upon which chords can be chugged.

I work hard to play uke well and I work hard to play guitar well.

I half-ass my way through banjo.

kenikas
08-11-2011, 11:19 AM
I only ever play intense Oscar-worthy music.
Me too! (Oscar the Grouch, anyway)

Hippie Dribble
08-11-2011, 12:50 PM
He's not insulting you, ukulelecowboy. He's not even insulting the ukulele.



Hmmmm....must have been just a very backhanded compliment.

mds725
08-11-2011, 01:50 PM
As someone who's spent many years studying classical guitar, I can honestly say it's a lot challenging and requires a lot more dedication and hard work than just learning to chug out a few chords on uke.

I imagine that spending many years studying classical guitar also requires a lot more dedication and hard work than just learning to chug out a few chords on a classical guitar.

austin1
08-11-2011, 01:52 PM
Hmmmm....must have been just a very backhanded compliment.

sorry, where did ukulelecowboy get called out by name in the OP's post again? I must have missed it.

Hippie Dribble
08-11-2011, 02:06 PM
sorry, where did ukulelecowboy get called out by name in the OP's post again? I must have missed it.
no he definitely didn't mention ukulelecowboy lol!!! I must say though I do sympathise with where ukulelecowboy is coming from. The insinuation , to me at least, is very clear in webby's original post; that is, that the uke is an uncomplicated instrument that is more suited to banging out simple tunes on, as opposed to say, a guitar that is somehow more worthy of complex study. I don't want to deride webby for discovering which instrument is more suited to him; that is surely everyone's objective. My point is that the barely concealed subtext of the OP is that the uke is a lesser instrument and I don't agree with that at all.

didgeridoo2
08-11-2011, 02:47 PM
no he definitely didn't mention ukulelecowboy lol!!! I must say though I do sympathise with where ukulelecowboy is coming from. The insinuation , to me at least, is very clear in webby's original post; that is, that the uke is an uncomplicated instrument that is more suited to banging out simple tunes on, as opposed to say, a guitar that is somehow more worthy of complex study. I don't want to deride webby for discovering which instrument is more suited to him; that is surely everyone's objective. My point is that the barely concealed subtext of the OP is that the uke is a lesser instrument and I don't agree with that at all.

Well put once again, John. I hardly see a point for starting the thread, but the op knew where it could be headed based on the way he expected to take some heat for it.

pulelehua
08-11-2011, 02:56 PM
I imagine that spending many years studying classical guitar also requires a lot more dedication and hard work than just learning to chug out a few chords on a classical guitar.

+1

The number of times at my school I've seen kids bash horrific sounds out of classical guitars, I cannot count. There's even a hole in one where someone obviously repeatedly tried to plug in a guitar cable. Bad musical knowledge, but truly dreadful knowledge of electronics.

I think it's a bit like comparing a painter who uses all colours, and a painter who doesn't use green. There are some seriously good paintings out there with no green. And actually choosing not to use green might mean a more meaningful exploration of another colour. Or another aspect of painting entirely.

Ghibli
08-11-2011, 03:04 PM
Such a post (the original one) is bound to ruffle feathers, even if written in good faith.
Definitely good to thank people for their help, but was the rest really necessary - this forum is populated by ukelele players/lovers after all.
All good in the end.

webby
08-11-2011, 04:31 PM
I did say, try not to go into an air clawing rage ;)

At no point did I say the Uke was a lesser instrument, I love Ukes, otherwise i would have not gone out and bought a bunch of em, I was simply saying that I have dedicated so much time to the Guitar over the years that I've decided to continue to concentrate on it as my main instrument into the future.

I like the fact that I can play a bit of uke, but just because i've learnt a new instrument shouldn't mean that I never play guitar again.

Would you have told Freddie Mercury "Hey seeing as you play the piano a bit, why not concentrate on that and give up on your singing", just because YOU are a piano player and cannot sing, its a silly argument.

And the point of my OP was to share with other people my musical ideas, discoveries and opinions, as this is a sharing forum, about ukes, and my post was about ukes, and if you go to the video section of this website you will see that I did take it seriously enough to learn at least to make music, in tune, in time, in fun.

I like driving cars too, but I have a 10 year old mitsubishi that i paid 400 bucks for, I guess people who drive 100 thousand dollar bmw's would argue that I shouldn't even bother having a car, but that's similar snobbery to 5k uke owners getting all huffy because someone else doesn't fawn over them for their wealth and affluence.

I can't in all seriousness see how spending the kind of money that would feed an african village on a hobby is anything to be proud of.

But as i said (or tried to say) I think the Uke is a brilliant little instrument, It's just NOT FOR ME FULL TIME.

Sorry if that ruffled some feathers, i was just sharing in an internet forum, get over yourselves guys.

In all instances, the music should come first, before opinions, before status, before pride, If you are not passionately making music that you love, why are you bothering ?

I will never give up my Ukes, and I will continue to teach kids with them and give away for free to the right student, that one 5 year old out of a class of 20 who, just glowed with pleasure the first time they ever held a uke, especially a kid from an underprivileged family who never imagined they would have or be able to play any kind of music, the look on their faces when you hand those kids a dolphin and say "this one is yours" is priceless.

Thanks for all the other positive and understanding responses.

Webby

Ghibli
08-11-2011, 05:21 PM
Webby
it's all good, really.
We all know that there's plenty of people around the world that prefer the guitar to the uke, no problem.
And the guitar, by the way, is a beautiful intrument.
Also good to know that you'll never give up your ukes, good move!

mds725
08-11-2011, 05:55 PM
Webby,

It's all good. You found your instrument and that's great, and to reaffirm that the guitar is your instrument by taking up the uke is also great for you. I think some people have objected to what may have been perceived as the possibly condescending tone of sentences from your original post like this one: "Like I'm not going to go out and buy a 1000 dollar tambourine, any more than I'm going to buy a 1000 dollar uke, its total overkill imo unless you ARE up to Jakes standard or aspire to be." The implication, given that this is a general statement and not a specific statement just about you, is that guitars are worth spending that kind of money on but, unless the buyer plays like Jake Shimabukuro, ukuleles are not. I think most people (including me) who have responded to your original post are happy that you love playing the guitar and were open to the ukulele. But I guess I wish you could understand that there are people who feel about the uke the way you seem to feel about the guitar, and that maybe being able to play a high end quality instrument is as important to them as playing your guitars (plural, so you apparently have more than one, even though you probably could have fed an African village instead of having bought several) is to you. I'm happy when anyone has found his or her instrument (even banjo, the sound of which at one time made my skin crawl). I would never think to tell a guitarist not to spend serious money on a guitar simply because I would rather play the ukulele.

TheOnlyUkeThatMatters
08-11-2011, 07:08 PM
I thought your avatar's uke looked a little big... now I look more closely... six tuning pegs!

Keep strumming---whatever you prefer, whenever you like!!

rasputinsghost
08-11-2011, 07:22 PM
It's a fun bit of condescension and arrogance to say that the only reason to buy $1000+ instrument is if you are/desire to be one of the best players on the planet but if you're Joe Guitarist you can drop three or four times as much stuff on a Martin, no talent minimum required!

If I read your post right, you like the guitar more than the ukulele. That is the sole reason for your post.

Congratulations.

Hippie Dribble
08-11-2011, 09:02 PM
It's fine webby. I don't think anyone went into an air clawing rage mate. It's like being angry at the Pope for not being an Anglican...waste of time. The point is only that we wish you could have found the same sense of joy and excitement in the instrument we all love here. Guitars are awesome too, I've played one for most of my life, certainly waaaay longer than I have played ukulele. At least you had some fun with the uke and have passed on that enjoyment to your students. Happy days mate. I for one sure concur with the statement that if you're not passionate about making music, why bother. Totally agree. You gotta stick with what you love.

zac987
08-11-2011, 09:20 PM
I'm not going to read any of the other posts, and just say CONGRATULATIONS, FRIEND! What a waste of a thread. I'm not going to go to Banjo Hangout and tell them how I'm a guitar player. That's completely pointless.

webby
08-11-2011, 09:20 PM
It's fine webby. I don't think anyone went into an air clawing rage mate. It's like being angry at the Pope for not being an Anglican...waste of time. The point is only that we wish you could have found the same sense of joy and excitement in the instrument we all love here. Guitars are awesome too, I've played one for most of my life, certainly waaaay longer than I have played ukulele. At least you had some fun with the uke and have passed on that enjoyment to your students. Happy days mate. I for one sure concur with the statement that if you're not passionate about making music, why bother. Totally agree. You gotta stick with what you love.

Thanks Mate, appreciate the kind words, and I just re read my original post and agree that it does come across a bit harsher than I was intending, I guess i wrote that right after i had played the guitar for the first time in weeks and was feeling very guilty for abandoning it so much recently.

But I would like to add that yes I did experience that "same sense of joy and excitement" when I first discovered the Uke, and i still have it in a lot of ways, It's just that my guitar vibed me out like a jilted lover there for a while.

But today I walked into the local music shop with my daughter and where did we end up, in the guitar section ? nope, at the uke wall, the little buggers do get a hold of you, its like heroin maybe, hell I dunno, but I ended up not buying the elixr 40 dollar guitar strings and walked out with a new set of aquila nyle guts to try out on the tanglewood uke instead, so what can I say.

I will have to hide in the spare room while I put the strings on though, otherwise the guitar will get all jealous and stroppy again.

Thanks for all the feedback from everyone, I appreciate everyone's point of view and was at a bit of a crossroads there in my mind as to what was going on with my musical direction, the range of your opinions and comments have provided me with a great balance that i couldn't find in myself a couple of days ago, that is what makes this forum and you people so great, very glad I am a member and a part of this community of passionate music lovers.

thanks again

webby

70sSanO
08-12-2011, 07:34 AM
Wow, what a strange thread.

I know you may not have meant it the way it came out and have been doing some serious back-tracking, but you should have just said you wanted to play guitar more and thanks for everyone's help without all the qualifiers.

But there is a silver lining. If nothing else this will help you if you are, or eventually, get married or have a serious relationship because this clawing in the air is nothing compared to that.

Remember.... think...talk... think...talk... think...talk.

John

syrynx
08-12-2011, 07:39 AM
I think of myself as a human first, a musician second, and a player of whatever instrument I happen to be playing after that. Webby, it appears that, with the aid of comments in this thread, you've arrived at a similar perspective. That makes me happy. :)

My musical focus has shifted frequently over the years, between guitar, steel guitar, pedal steel guitar, harmonica, and songwriting/singing. Right now, it's primarily concentrated on acoustic steel guitars. But my partner and I are contemplating a road trip in a few weeks. There won't be room in the Mini for a steel guitar. But my Lanikai will go with us-- and the zipper pocket of its case holds not only harmonicas, but a neck rack.

To everything, turn, turn, turn, there is a season, turn, turn, turn...

tomiro
08-12-2011, 09:27 AM
Webby sharing his truth in the discoveries he's made and the ongoing dialogue: I believe this to be the most honest thread (from the beginning), of all the posts I've read on our forum. Other posts that might be considered as sincere are the music videos, originals and covers, many of you so graciously share. Heartfelt, all. Webby, thank you for spiking the Kool-Aid; providing an opportunity for each of us to sip, reflect and converse. What a great community!