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Tsani
09-07-2011, 06:40 AM
I hate be down on the U.S. Postal Service at a time when they are struggling, but I have had an unpleasant experience with their service.

I ordered a Favilla Teardrop ukulele from Buffalo Brothers Guitars in California. I chose to have them ship via USPS to save money. I wish I hadn't.

The good news is that my uke arrived intact - but it is thanks to Buffalo Brothers care in wrapping and protecting my instrument - not the postal service!

First of all, I got an "expected delivery" date of August 30th, and the package did not arrive until September 6th. I will give them some leeway for hurricanes and such, but gee whiz. It took twice as long as they said it would, and their tracking service gave no updates on its progress until the day of delivery. So I was checking my front porch every day for a week in eager anticipation of a package that did not come.

The box arrived on my doorstep with a huge hole gouged in the side and packing peanuts spilling out. That was scary enough, but when I opened the box, the inner box which was well cushioned with packing material had a huge hole in it as well! What did they do to my package? Ram it with a forklift? Fortunately Buffalo Brothers:rock: wrapped my instrument in layers of bubble wrap which kept it from sustaining any damage.

Next time I order something valuable to be delivered I will pay extra to have it delivered by UPS, FedEx, or some other commercial delivery service - not by U.S. Postal Service!

janeray1940
09-07-2011, 06:46 AM
Next time I order something valuable to be delivered I will pay extra to have it delivered by UPS, FedEx, or some other commercial delivery service - not by U.S. Postal Service!

The last uke I bought shipped via FedEx, and the box arrived with a big dent in it - right over were the shipper had carefully written the word FRAGILE! Fortunately the sender was an experienced uke seller and had packed it well enough to withstand just about anything.

PoiDog
09-07-2011, 06:47 AM
Did you document this with the USPS? Not that it would do much good after the fact, but if they are aware of their failures, they may (hopefully) take steps to prevent that sort of thing in the future.

Of course, your story is pretty common. I've received packages from USPS that were pretty badly mangled. I contacted them, got the usual apologies and promises, etc. but haven't really noticed marked improvement.

And, because of that, if they do suffer some serious problems I'm not going to shed too many tears. They can't continue to expect to double charge us (via postage and also through government funding) while being so negligent and incompetent.

Anyway, happy ending that your uke is safe. And that's what really matters.

sukie
09-07-2011, 06:53 AM
Sorry that happened to you. My experience with USPS hasn't been like yours. (Well, except or the Christmas card envelope we got in March without the card.) USPS has been my mail carrier of choice because they usually do a better job than the others.

hoosierhiver
09-07-2011, 06:56 AM
I think this can happen with any carrier.

Kanaka916
09-07-2011, 07:14 AM
I think this can happen with any carrier.

Ditto . . .

Ukuleleblues
09-07-2011, 08:06 AM
USPS delivered one with the neck broken clean in half, it was insured. Had to threaten court to get someone from he inspector dept to just return a call. Was told they don't honor insurance if not packed "correctly" The inspector laughed and said they turn down claims all the time.

When asked why the accepted the package with an insurance payment if not packed correctly got no answer.

I never use USPS for anything important.

marymac
09-07-2011, 08:22 AM
I think this can happen with any carrier.

+1 for this. I ship expensive stuff USPS all the time. I insure it and ship Priority Mail or Express Mail in the US (Express for ukes). I've shipped a ton of camera gear via priority mail and had no problems either. It's just luck (or lack of it). Carelessness isn't limited to USPS, that's for sure!

poppy
09-07-2011, 08:54 AM
One more time the USPS recieves NO zero nada federal funding period. they are run by congressional law and direction and must comply with federal regulation, ie pricing 6 day delivery keep non profit centers open by direction and still make enough to operate and deliver mail and packages to ALL addresses in the USA. Look at the cost of shipping world wide vs continental US U think its expensive here ask those on this board from other countries what a letter cost to send see how many say 42 cents.

Kanaka916
09-07-2011, 08:55 AM
One more time the USPS recieves NO zero nada federal funding period. they are run by congressional law and direction and must comply with federal regulation, ie pricing 6 day delivery keep non profit centers open by direction and still make enough to operate and deliver mail and packages to ALL addresses in the USA. Look at the cost of shipping world wide vs continental US U think its expensive here ask those on this board from other countries what a letter cost to send see how many say 42 cents.

R U a postal employee?

marymac
09-07-2011, 09:01 AM
U think its expensive here ask those on this board from other countries what a letter cost to send see how many say 42 cents.

44 cents. Still, a bargain.

Tsani
09-07-2011, 09:16 AM
I understand those who say USPS for regular mail is a bargain - and it is. I understand those who say that this can happen with any carrier - and it does. Lord knows, I took a walk through a UPS distribution center once and what they do with packages in there would turn your hair white (too late for me). But in the end I think a commercial carrier is more answerable for the condition in which your package arrives, rather than dealing with the USPS bureaucracy. I think the commercial carriers are more sensitive to the market.

marymac
09-07-2011, 09:20 AM
I understand those who say USPS for regular mail is a bargain - and it is. I understand those who say that this can happen with any carrier - and it does. Lord knows, I took a walk through a UPS distribution center once and what they do with packages in there would turn your hair white (too late for me). But in the end I think a commercial carrier is more answerable for the condition in which your package arrives, rather than dealing with the USPS bureaucracy. I think the commercial carriers are more sensitive to the market.

I can agree with that. Claims made with UPS and Fedex might actually get paid someday while USPS - I'm not so sure. They're bureaucracy is legendary as we all know.

hoosierhiver
09-07-2011, 09:24 AM
I think packages are insured for about $100 thru USPS priority, I submitted a claim once and was paid, but it took awhile.

toobacat
09-07-2011, 09:25 AM
This came in yesterday's mail. The box was well padded, but the neck wasn't supported, so it probably wasn't their fault. But, it must have taken quite a jolt to knock the nut out.

The guy at my UPS store said that they deny claims all the time. He said that a claim can be denied just for reusing a box. If they pack it, your claim will always be honored, but they sure charge for that.

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Lori
09-07-2011, 09:34 AM
I'd be lost without the USPS... their pricing can't be beat for small stuff. I visit the local post office several times each week, and some people who work there are really great, and others are not. I am happy to say most of the clerks are good, but any large organization is going to have the full range from those-who-really-care, and those-who-don't. Add to the mix the movement of many large and unwieldy boxes, and accidents will happen occasionally. I have had computer monitors (the old tube type) come delivered UPS with a big hole punched through the box. Just missed breaking the screen, because the styrofoam box offered enough protection. Definitely double box important stuff with a lot of cushion around the item. Our packages go through quite the road trip before making it to it's destination.

–Lori

Toucan Mango
09-07-2011, 10:05 AM
Since 2003 I have had 1 damaged item with USPS Priority Mail and 0 lost packages, I changed the way I pack the item that got damaged. Buyers usually get their package within 2 or 3 days. The free boxes work great for me as well. USPS all the way for me.

Uke Republic
09-07-2011, 11:25 AM
I use USPS when shipping over seas , small items like strings and sometimes when people want a uke quick or want it on a Saturday. I use UPS a lot too and have been overall happy with both but both have also delivered some beat up boxes.
I kinda want one of those little mail trucks USPS have.

Leodhas
09-07-2011, 11:40 AM
I'm in Scotland so may I ask a question? Is the 44 cent for a first class letter, as in next day delivery? If so that's not bad as it costs 46p here to send a sub 100g letter 1st class, so what's that about 70 cent?

However, on the next day delivery thing, you must keep in mind Scotland is a tiny wee place in relation to the us so the next day delivery thing isn't that impressive! You may aswell shout out your window as send a letter.

marymac
09-07-2011, 11:51 AM
I'm in Scotland so may I ask a question? Is the 44 cent for a first class letter, as in next day delivery? If so that's not bad as it costs 46p here to send a sub 100g letter 1st class, so what's that about 70 cent?

First class (44 cents) delivery time depends on distance from the sender. A letter takes mostly 1-3 days anywhere in the country. For guaranteed next day you're looking at a lot more. $10-20 for overnight - like fedex prices. First class is regular mail not express. Also, this place is a lot bigger that Scotland so it takes longer to get from coast to coast (3000+ miles) so that's why delivery time varies a lot.

musiccityuker
09-07-2011, 11:57 AM
This is all toooo funny! Trying to determine if the USPS is better than UPS, FedEx, or High Flung Dung Air ... Talk about a no-win exercise in futility!!! The USPS, UPS, FedEx and Two Hung Low Air Freight are all staffed by REAL people. And, though most of them are wonderful people... just like you and me... very few of them REALLY care about our individual packages. They just want to finish the day and go home to their REAL lives! Anytime you have a uke shipped.. that uke is in REAL danger. I guess the best we can do is make sure we know who we're doing business with and know that they care enough to pack that instrument for shipping with extra care. And, when the GOOD uke companies do that then we should all sing their praises from the rooftops! I've received ukes recently from Mele in Maui, Eleuke in Idaho, and Mainland in Indiana. ALL three did an excellent job with the packing and I'd do business with all of them again in a heartbeat! But... just for the record... I always pay extra for next day FedEx delivery! I figure the less time my uke is in the shipper's hands the better! The USPS? Been there... done that. Bad results... TWICE! Never again!

23skidoo
09-07-2011, 12:31 PM
I've always had better luck with USPS than any of the private companies - both personally and professionally. Considering the volume of items they deliver in a relatively timely fashion, they amaze me. Always had good experience with their shipping..... only damaged items I've ever received were through UPS.

strumsilly
09-07-2011, 12:41 PM
There is no substitute for good packing. If the instrument is not in a hard case it should be double boxed. Never had a problem if it was properly packed, even if the box was damaged. Had lots of problems when poorly packing.

mr moonlight
09-07-2011, 12:50 PM
I've had bad experiences with UPS, USPS and Fedex, but I guess I ship a lot of stuff and get a lot of stuff shipped to me. The best way is to pack and pack well, but it's still no guarantee. I just sent a uke that got damaged by Fedex. It was boxed with a good amount of bubble wrap around a plywood hardshell case. Really, you could stand on the case alone and not had an issue. It arrived with the case bent and the plywood cracked. The uke suffered a broken neck as well. To inflict that type of damage you'd probably have to drive a car over the box or drop something really really heavy on it. I've had boxes arrive ripped up from UPS, smashed packages from USPS...

The only thing you can do is pack your instrument well, insure it and hope for the best. 99% of the time a good packing job is good enough, but as with anything in life, sometimes shit happens.

Nuprin
09-07-2011, 01:36 PM
When we get shipments in at work, they always arrive via FedEx or UPS (guess the big music manufacturers don't like USPS?). Granted we get a lot of shipments each day but it is pretty common to have a damaged box or item show up. We always inspect the boxes as they're taken off the truck and, if it shows any damage, we'll open it in front of the driver. Any damage to the item and we refuse it.

I once was told that for UPS, an acceptable drop was up to 6 feet high. I've been witness to a driver toss a package from the back of his truck to the ground (approximately 2-3 feet). As stated in this thread, all delivery companies have failings...hopefully the package is packed well and can withstand some abuse.

itsme
09-07-2011, 02:12 PM
I once was told that for UPS, an acceptable drop was up to 6 feet high. I've been witness to a driver toss a package from the back of his truck to the ground (approximately 2-3 feet).
Ha! I had a package once from UPS that was literally thrown over a 6' fence onto concrete, and it was marked "fragile." I swear that's a code word for "kick me." I've also had them just leave a package on the porch that was signature required without so much as ringing the doorbell when I was home. Checked the delivery info and it said I had signed for it.

Actually, USPS has gotten a lot better over the past year or so. Tracking will even show when it's "out for delivery" now. I think with the demise of first class, packages and junk have become their mainstay.

poppy
09-07-2011, 02:19 PM
R U a postal employee?


retired from middle management , those are true statements and thanks for the up date to 44 cents the wife buys the stamps here LOL, Each distrubition center is graded daily on the 1 day and 2 day mail. I can't quote the exact distance on a first class 1 day but close to 7/800 mile radius. which means in the mid west it is almost entirely 1 and 2 day. Also most long haul mail is put on an air plane hence no more air mail. mail then you do have special classes of priority mail but why would you pay extra to get 1 day service when thats standard to most places from here lol.
Packages are in fact handled differently by special centers that do parcels and priority. The distrubition centers are massive and nothing like your local office they average millions of letters a day each for several offices the machines they use process 40/50 thousand letters an hour each the center I was at had over 50 of these machines plus special machines for bulk mail types (8x11 or thick letters.) The post office had over 800,000 employees when I started there I believe they are now below 600k mostly accomplished by attrition. If they can stop Saturday delivery it will cut overtime dramitically and remove many part time employees saving lots of dollars but the US congress doesn't want to take the heat. They also (postal management) want to close many small offices which will lose much of the flavor of local mail but they need to cut to survive, the internet we all love has destroyed the system as it was . But most of what the PO does is by law that originated during the time of Ben Franklin Its a good read if you ever want to take the time. Like some have said its a large company and it is union so it has some great employees and some not so great but overall it really does do a very good job.

I have never figured out why the PO is so slow getting their tracking system on line. I do know a lot of it is do to privacy concerns. I do know that it is tracked internally in and out of each office and machine it passes through it's one of the reasons your mail is so secure it can be determined fairly accuratly where it was within a short time frame.
So they have the technology but some concerns are holding progress.

mailman
09-07-2011, 02:30 PM
R U a postal employee?

I am, and I think poppy summed it up pretty well. Unfortunately, most of the American public still believes that their tax dollars fund the Postal Service. It's run like a business, folks. Sales of stamps and services funds the USPS, out of which they must pay all their expenses, including payroll.

To the OP, I'm sorry you had a bad experience with your shipment. It really can happen to any carrier. I hope you'll give the USPS another chance....

itsme
09-07-2011, 02:42 PM
If they can stop Saturday delivery it will cut overtime dramitically and remove many part time employees saving lots of dollars but the US congress doesn't want to take the heat.
I could live without Saturday delivery. Heck, I'd be fine if they dropped it down to just M-W-F.

marymac
09-07-2011, 03:00 PM
I could live without Saturday delivery. Heck, I'd be fine if they dropped it down to just M-W-F.

I'm fine without Saturday too, but not just MWF! God, what if I had to wait another day for a uke?! Torture!

Nuprin
09-07-2011, 03:07 PM
As far as the tracking issue the OP mentioned...isn't tracking only available on certain services (like Express)? Isn't everything else just a delivery confirmation which is why is updates when it ships and updates when it's been delivered?

Kanaka916
09-07-2011, 03:14 PM
I am, and I think poppy summed it up pretty well. Unfortunately, most of the American public still believes that their tax dollars fund the Postal Service. It's run like a business, folks. Sales of stamps and services funds the USPS, out of which they must pay all their expenses, including payroll.

To the OP, I'm sorry you had a bad experience with your shipment. It really can happen to any carrier. I hope you'll give the USPS another chance....
Don, what's the mail volume like in your neck of the woods? And how adversely would a 3 day delivery affect the carriers? In Plant support has been doing a lot of consolidating and eliminating.

itsme
09-07-2011, 03:19 PM
I'm fine without Saturday too, but not just MWF! God, what if I had to wait another day for a uke?! Torture!
LOL! I had a uke shipped USPS on Saturday from Illinois to L.A. It was delivered yesterday (Tuesday, though Monday the PO was closed). How's that for fast service? Granted, the seller had waited three days to ship and decided to upgrade it to priority mail (a difference of $3.59) at their expense. But one business day for that distance is pretty amazing in my book.

Though heaven help you if your package ends up in SoCal's Bell Gardens sort facility. Been buying a lot of stuff from ebay lately and packages usually make it cross country in only a day or two. But if they land in BG they'll likely be there another two days, even though it's <50 miles to my local PO.

bbycrts
09-07-2011, 03:52 PM
I think this can happen with any carrier.

Yup. I've heard similar stories for every one of the major carriers. In the end it all comes down to the individuals who handle the packages; despite the best policies and procedures of the companies, things can happen in shipping.

However, I don't think I would recommend United for the shipping of guitars.


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shrink9
09-07-2011, 05:33 PM
I had a hammered dulcimer sent from Colorado a couple of months ago. To my shock, the sender shipped it in its nylon case with no packing materials or exterior box (the case closed with velcro). I was absolutely furious when it arrived and I saw how it was shipped. I must confess, however, that the dulcimer came through with no damage whatsoever. In fact, the items that were shipped in the pockets on the outside of the case even came through with no problem. This one will go down in my memories. I buy and sell a lot and rely on the shipping companies. Like was previously pointed out, bad things can happen with any of them. I DON'T recommend shipping without a box with any of them, however!!!

poppy
09-07-2011, 05:44 PM
As far as the tracking issue the OP mentioned...isn't tracking only available on certain services (like Express)? Isn't everything else just a delivery confirmation which is why is updates when it ships and updates when it's been delivered?

Thats pretty much true BUT express is hand scanned and the data sent to a different data base designed to output and track that data. the concerns about accessing data on the machines is removed. and yes packages are ran on machines also, big honkers that are a big pain to maintain!!
I really don't know the details of not tracking totally but the PO has some of the best software around and some of it is very ---- word escapes me but they do not want to share it lol.

MisterRios
09-07-2011, 06:04 PM
Look at the cost of shipping world wide vs continental US U think its expensive here ask those on this board from other countries what a letter cost to send see how many say 42 cents.

In Germany: 55 Euro cents for a standard business size letter (DIN LANG), 1,45 € for every other size letter (including greeting cards!). Anything that isn't a letter is handled by DHL, which the Deutsche Post owns. Shipping for most national packages is semi-standardized between 4,90 € and 5,90 €. Anything sent Express is handled by DHL Express, which is a different company than DHL, but is still owned by the Deutsche Post.

By the way, here in Germany, there are occasional issues with DHL, so people joke that it stands for "Dauert Halt Länger" translated to: It just simply takes longer. But I've never had package damage issues with them.

musiccityuker
09-08-2011, 02:35 AM
I am, and I think poppy summed it up pretty well. Unfortunately, most of the American public still believes that their tax dollars fund the Postal Service. It's run like a business, folks. Sales of stamps and services funds the USPS, out of which they must pay all their expenses, including payroll.

To the OP, I'm sorry you had a bad experience with your shipment. It really can happen to any carrier. I hope you'll give the USPS another chance....
They're $9 billion in the red this year... not a very well run biz! And... if they are a biz how is it that they are asking U.S. taxpayers to fork over $5 billion by the end of the month to fund payments and insurance for retired postal employees? I wish I could run my business this way... justforce the government to give me money when I've screwed up. Now that's a heck of a business plan!

garyg
09-08-2011, 04:06 AM
Like others, I think that USPS is as good as anyone else and I've used all three major shippers and some less well known ones too like DHL. Proper packing is the key, not how well they ship because every company mishandles some packages. I've shipped lots of expensive paintings via UPS and never had a problem until they broke a 5K stone sculpture two years ago. It was a sculpture being shipped to a gallery in MA. that I had them pack, so the insurance was supposed to be paid without a question being asked. It took about nine months to get my claim paid, and the insurance adjuster said that the gallery could just glue the broken piece back on, discount the price a bit, and sell it as "Like New". I had to go through all sorts of rigamarole, including multiple appraisals, etc. Whenever I've had a problem with USPS the claim has pretty much been paid immediately, although those claims have been small. I don't use FedEx because they won't let you insure for over $750 and they used to have a complete waiver for fine art and I suspect, for instruments.

Frankly, I get tired of all the government worker bashing. The US Postal service is a massive organization with the same amount of jerks as in the private sector. As someone who has worked in a number of foreign countries I'll tell ya, we've got a great postal system, and in general, a well performing system of government, or government associated workers. And yes I am an employee of a state government institution (and where I am it's 7 AM so don't think that I'm sitting at my cushy government desk writing this). When shipping expensive items there are a few things that you can do to make your claim easier. 1) have documentation of it's value, 2) take pictures of the item prior to being packed, take pictures of it inside the box to show how well it's packed and then take another picture after the box is sealed, 3) keep your original receipt, which will help with #1, and lastly, it's all about packing so don't be shy about asking the shipper *how* they will pack your item and make sure that they know how to do it correctly. Offer to pay extra to ensure that it's double-boxed and that there is sufficient padding. The rule about packing is to double the amount that you think it actually needs and that may just be adequate if you end up with a box tosser. A long time ago a UPS supervisor told me to always write "stand on end" on my painting boxes rather than fragile. They said that "fragile" stamp was like a red flag to some employees. Sad but true and true everywhere, not just USPS. good shipping, g2

MisterRios
09-08-2011, 04:21 AM
As I was posting my last post (937), I was trying to find a recent article I had read about the Postal Service. I finally found it in case anyone is interested in the workings/finances of the US Postal Service:

http://www.businessweek.com/print/magazine/content/11_23/b4231060885070.htm

kissing
09-08-2011, 04:57 AM
On the topic of postage, I'm not a big fan of DHL.

Last time I ordered something from Germany from DHL, it took more than 3 weeks...when it should've taken 2 weeks max.
I had to wait almost a month!!!

Although to be fair, perhaps it's more the Australia post's fault. When I complained to DHL, they said that once it arrives in your country, it is then handled by your country's postal company. So, looking at the tracking log, the story is that it didn't take long at all for the package to leave Germany. Within a day or two, it had taken off. And then it was stuck for 3 weeks "somewhere" between the phase of having left their country and arriving at mine lol.

marymac
09-08-2011, 05:56 AM
They're $9 billion in the red this year... not a very well run biz! And... if they are a biz how is it that they are asking U.S. taxpayers to fork over $5 billion by the end of the month to fund payments and insurance for retired postal employees? I wish I could run my business this way... justforce the government to give me money when I've screwed up. Now that's a heck of a business plan!

Worked for the banks. And the brokerages. And the savings and loans.

sukie
09-08-2011, 07:02 AM
Not to defend the USPS, BUT..........a lot of it is our fault. When's the last time you sent someone a birthday card in the mail? How about an invitation? Do you facebook instead of writing letters? We do not send as much mail as we used to. Every year it gets worse. No wonder the Post Office is going down the tubes. They can't keep up with such a huge loss of income. NO! They are not a government entity, as much as we'd like to think so. Kinda sad.

How'd you feel if you had worked for a company for many years and were close to retirement age, only to find out that you weren't going to get the retirement funds you had been promised? I think it is criminal that retirement funds can be taken away. Enron, anyone?

it just saddens me to hear them getting bashed all the time. I look forward to the mail coming. Even though I seldom get "fun" mail.....I'm done.........

BACK ON TOPIC. I VEERED WAY OFF....sorry. sometimes I am too passionate.

janeray1940
09-08-2011, 07:11 AM
Though heaven help you if your package ends up in SoCal's Bell Gardens sort facility. Been buying a lot of stuff from ebay lately and packages usually make it cross country in only a day or two. But if they land in BG they'll likely be there another two days, even though it's <50 miles to my local PO.

I've noticed that with BG too. I've also had a couple of weird things happen to eBay purchases shipped from points east lately - one took an unexpected detour to Washington state before landing in Bell Gardens (and took three weeks to reach me), the other has been sitting in purgatory in Catano, Puerto Rico for the past week. I've got a feeling that parcel is never going to reach me - good thing it's not a uke!

poppy
09-08-2011, 08:34 AM
As I was posting my last post (937), I was trying to find a recent article I had read about the Postal Service. I finally found it in case anyone is interested in the workings/finances of the US Postal Service:

http://www.businessweek.com/print/magazine/content/11_23/b4231060885070.htm
This is an excellant artical it brushes over some really key points and you miss the implications. If and it has been seriously considered the PO were privitized ONLY profitable areas would recieve mail. Forget aunt emma in podunk she no longer has mail service, is that ok , I dont know you tell me. The goverment allowed companies to cherry pick the profitable delivery of packages without requiring coverage to podunk, The PO is still required to deliver to podunk. The PO though not a private business with the ability to pick and choose (your congress does that for them) is expected to compete with companies that have that ability but cannot charge the rate they want, that also is set by your elected congress. Please understand it is FAR from a perfect solution and it will require change but with the current congress that change will be verrrryyy slooww if it can happen at all. Remember the people there have been dedicated to doing their best to get yout mail throuh rain n sleet n hail for a long time so please remember it wasn't the postman as usual it was your well paid and subsidized career congress. Wonder how we get the Davy Crocketts to return to congress LOL.

Tudorp
09-08-2011, 08:46 AM
they ALL have horror stories. Writting messages like "fragile" have no impact on how they are handled. They are in a lot of thousands and tossed about by all the carriers. They don't read anything on the box except the zip code. I wont use UPS because of my own horror story with them. I wont go into details, but long story short, they completely destroied an insured item of mine. It was obvious misshandling from the looks of the box. WIth it so obvious, I thought I was good to go with the ins. They gave me half of what it was insured for, which didn't cover repair/replacement even close. When I requested for the full insurance to be paid, they actually told me that was all they are gonna give me (which was half the insured amount), and if I didn't like it, to sue them. They actually told me that, knowing there was no way I could afford to take deep pockets of UPS on in court. I swore to never use them again. But again, they all have their stories.

That said, one thing I would like to add, call ANY courier, and ask them to come to your house, pick up a letter, and take it 3000 miles accross the USA for less than .50 cents. They ALL will laugh at you... except the USPS. Just sayin..

musiccityuker
09-08-2011, 09:59 AM
Worked for the banks. And the brokerages. And the savings and loans.

And for Chrysler and General Motors...

marymac
09-08-2011, 10:04 AM
Yep. Lots of bailing going on - why not USPS which we all rely on DAILY.

musiccityuker
09-08-2011, 10:04 AM
Don't worry... your boy Obama is working on FREE everything for EVERYONE! Happy days will soon be here again!

marymac
09-08-2011, 10:06 AM
Don't worry... your boy Obama is working FREE everything for EVERYONE! Happy days will soon be here again!

Uh oh - we may need to lock this thread now. Sorry I took it down this path.

musiccityuker
09-08-2011, 10:07 AM
The thread is fine... chill!

Ukuleleblues
09-08-2011, 10:10 AM
YEAH!!!!! Free Ukuleles!!!!!, I hope they don't send them USPS :)

Kristi.G
09-08-2011, 10:13 AM
I can agree with that. Claims made with UPS and Fedex might actually get paid someday while USPS - I'm not so sure. They're bureaucracy is legendary as we all know.

Maybe with UPS, but not Fedex. They don't actually even offer true insurance anymore. You are simply paying to declare a value! This was what I was told last time I wanted to ship something of value with them. I shipped UPS instead.

itsme
09-08-2011, 10:21 AM
Like some have said its a large company and it is union so it has some great employees and some not so great...
Well, it's in their union contract that they can't be laid off. The also get regular cost of living adjustments and the starting salary for a letter carrier is over $40K. In many places that's well over what teachers (who have to have a college degree) make.

hoosierhiver
09-08-2011, 10:59 AM
The thread is fine... chill!

UU is a friendly place in part because people follow the guidelines which, are stay away from politics and religion.
So have some respect for the forum and follow the guidelines, if you want to get in a political jab go to Youtube.

Kanaka916
09-08-2011, 12:38 PM
OK folks . . . this thread is http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/hawhyen51/locked.png . . . the topic is about delivery services and not about the woes of the postal service. The politics needs to stay out of it. If anyone wishes to reopen the topic on delivery services, please do so in another thread.