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Keef
09-16-2011, 07:01 AM
I have no history with music very little aptitude for music but I have bought a $1000+ ukulele (this way I have to learn or its a big waste)and have been trying to teach my self how to play for the last two years and the lights just arnt coming on for me I have managed to invent two songs out of shear will power because I couldnt play anyone elses music correctly. this weekend I am going to get internet service at home up to this point everything has been done via my iphone .. I am thinking about inrolling in the ukulele university

Skitzic
09-16-2011, 07:57 AM
I have no history with music very little aptitude for music but I have bought a $1000+ ukulele (this way I have to learn or its a big waste)and have been trying to teach my self how to play for the last two years and the lights just arnt coming on for me I have managed to invent two songs out of shear will power because I couldnt play anyone elses music correctly. this weekend I am going to get internet service at home up to this point everything has been done via my iphone .. I am thinking about inrolling in the ukulele university

That would be a good place to start. Or maybe try UU+. It's a little cheaper and you get to watch all the past videos.

Keef
09-16-2011, 08:31 AM
cheaper ?? I thought it was free

if not what was it Aldriene was talking about on a video I saw where he said his main function was to teach people on UU for free?

PoiDog
09-16-2011, 08:42 AM
You spent over $1000 on a hunch that you'd like / be able to play an instrument?

Wow. You are way more brave than me.

Mandarb
09-16-2011, 08:54 AM
cheaper ?? I thought it was free

if not what was it Aldriene was talking about on a video I saw where he said his main function was to teach people on UU for free?

There are a bunch of free lesson videos from Aldrine on the main page - Uke Lessons, Uke Minutes, etc. There is also the weekly free live lesson which are archived for reveiw. The UU+ lessons are lessons that you pay for that systemically take you through a step by step process of learning to play the uke.

Uncle Rod Higuchi
09-16-2011, 08:57 AM
Hey Keef,

Looks like you've been a regular contributor so I hope you already found the Ukulele Boot Camp and FREE songbook links.

If not, they are in my signature below.

Any specific part of playing the ukulele that's giving you the most difficulty?

keep uke'in',

Keef
09-16-2011, 08:59 AM
You spent over $1000 on a hunch that you'd like / be able to play an instrument?

Wow. You are way more brave than me.

yep bought a KoAloha Sceptre tenor. Since then it has been signed and played by Jake shimabukuro and Taimane Gardner but the magic has not rubbed off on me yet but im going to stick with it ;)

Keef
09-16-2011, 09:01 AM
The UU+ lessons are lessons that you pay for that systemically take you through a step by step process of learning to play the uke. I think this is what I need

Mandarb
09-16-2011, 09:03 AM
I think this is what I need

I have not taken them but there are a couple of UU regulars that come to mind that have taken some classes and speak very highly of them - joeybug and fitncrafty. Good luck.

Keef
09-16-2011, 09:03 AM
Hey Keef,

Looks like you've been a regular contributor so I hope you already found the Ukulele Boot Camp and FREE songbook links.

If not, they are in my signature below.

Any specific part of playing the ukulele that's giving you the most difficulty?

keep uke'in', I think I need the structure that a teacher provides but their are no ukulele teachers around me only guitar instructors that tell me its almost the same thing I can teach you .. I want a ukulele teacher!

mascompro
09-16-2011, 09:11 AM
My local uke teacher has been invaluable to me. With out him, I would have never unlearned several things I learned, trying to teach myself.

Also, +1 for Uncle Rod's Boot Camp.

tainauke
09-16-2011, 09:31 AM
A lot of people do not have the opportunity to have a "real" teacher close to them. There are none in my region.

But I have signed on UU+, frankly if you pay monthly it really isn't expensive and you get a "virtual" teacher that will take you through all the basics, explaining everything step by step and good video showing you how to "master" the technics. I highly recommend it and have progressed a lot since I signed on. Oh and I have no musical background either.

If you are afraid UU+ won't suit you, you can sign on for only 1 month...

Also, as said previously, check out the monthly lessons, Uke Minutes and all the other free stuff you can find here at UU. The best of course if to have a teacher beside you to help you out, but I find that UU is just as good.

Keef
09-16-2011, 09:45 AM
is UU+ a virtual lesson where you can see and talk to the instructor and he can see and talk to you?

Trinimon
09-16-2011, 09:53 AM
I hear ya Keef. While I've learned a bit from the internet, there are questions I think I need to get resolved by sitting one on one with an instructor to go over stuff. I think once I get past that point, I'm golden. It's one thing to watch a video but sometimes if it goes too quickly, I have to keep rewinding it/replaying until it sinks into my noggin and I realize what I've been doing wrong. With an instructor, it would be instant correction. Doesn't help that my fingers aren't the greatest for doing some fret work. Too much callus on my fingers from golfing. :p

Trinimon
09-16-2011, 09:56 AM
Nope. You basically play through a pre-recorded video lesson at a time starting from the very begining ie tuning your uke to chrods and strumming etc.

There's the live lessons with Aldrine on Wed 8pm EST.


is UU+ a virtual lesson where you can see and talk to the instructor and he can see and talk to you?

Keef
09-16-2011, 10:07 AM
Nope. You basically play through a pre-recorded video lesson at a time starting from the very begining ie tuning your uke to chrods and strumming etc.

There's the live lessons with Aldrine on Wed 8pm EST.
oh no contact with a teacher? :( (not to excited about that)
Aldrine is great but his lessons are to fast for me im like wh wh WHAT? and by the time I start to grasps the first thing he said hes covered 5 more things (sigh)

tainauke
09-16-2011, 10:17 AM
With UU+ you will get the replay lessons, but if you take the university courses (when they come out) you have a chat and can communicate that way.

but it isn't a lesson like via skype where the teacher can see you.

I sometimes find the weekly lessons a bit fast for me, but what about the monthly lessons? I find those a better pace for a beginner like me.

Also, I want to point out that on UU+, the replay lessons do not go as fast as the weekly ones. Aldrine really takes his time to show and explain everything he says. The classes were designed to go at a slow pace so that everyone can keep up. For example, on the first lesson he will basically explain you how to hold the ukulele, how to tune it and show you 3 chords, how to strum and a basic up and down stum.

If you want to find a "real" teacher, perhaps you can try contacting some guitar players if there are no ukulele players or clubs where you live at.

gyosh
09-16-2011, 10:18 AM
Too much callus on my fingers from golfing. :p

LOL - you're way off on one of these if "golf calluses" affect your uke playing :)

OldePhart
09-16-2011, 12:51 PM
I think I need the structure that a teacher provides but their are no ukulele teachers around me only guitar instructors that tell me its almost the same thing I can teach you .. I want a ukulele teacher!

Yeah - you definitely don't want to go to a guitar instructor to learn uke. It's true there are similarities, and those of us who have played guitar probably have an easier time picking up uke than someone who hasn't, but that's as far as it goes. If someone told me they could teach me to play uke because they teach guitar I wouldn't want them teaching me uke or guitar!

John

OldePhart
09-16-2011, 01:02 PM
Honestly, it kind of sounds like you're trying to start at the top of the ladder. Don't try to finger-pick fancy solos until you can strum simple two and three chord songs that you already know very well and can sing or hum the melody (I'm talking really basic stuff like "Row Row Row" and what have you). Trying to learn to play any instrument by "playing" songs you don't know very well is almost impossible. It's a two-step (at least) process:

1) Learn instrument basics by playing songs you know so well you could hum them in your sleep - you "hear" them in your head. This is how you know when you're making a mistake on the instrument and can correct.

2) Learn more complex songs by applying the instrument basics you know to "fake" a simple version of the songs.

After that, you're in a position to start learning specific techniques to improve your arrangements. Until you achieve 1 & 2 trying to learn anything more advanced is just going to bring on greater and greater frustration.

I used to play in a band with another guitarist who played great bluegrass melody runs. He was pretty much useless in a band though because he'd never learned the basics and chords. He'd taught himself specific melodies and runs to specific songs by mechanically following tab and listening to recorded music. He couldn't create anything and if he didn't already know a song then handing him a chart was of no help - likewise, if you needed to change the key of a song to fit a vocalist he was useless unless it was a change he could capo.

John

PhilUSAFRet
09-16-2011, 03:47 PM
Hey Keef,

Looks like you've been a regular contributor so I hope you already found the Ukulele Boot Camp and FREE songbook links.

If not, they are in my signature below.

Any specific part of playing the ukulele that's giving you the most difficulty?

keep uke'in',

Agree with Uncle Rod. If you haven't mastered the basics, you will continue to be frustrated. Many of us tried to progress too quickly, only to have to go back and master fundamental skills, learn chords, practice. For many of us, trying to learn uke by just learning and playing songs doesn't work. Good luck. Don't know your skill level, but Ukulele for Dummies looks great. Just got a copy for B'dy.

PS: Going to Tarpon Springs in November? If so, see you there.

itsme
09-16-2011, 04:01 PM
I have no history with music very little aptitude for music but I have bought a $1000+ ukulele (this way I have to learn or its a big waste)
I really don't understand spending that amount of money when you are starting out. It's not guaranteed to make you a better player any more than buying an expensive set of golf clubs will make you a better golfer or buying a Porsche will make you a better driver.

If you are at a point where you can afford expensive toys, then there's no real harm.

But honestly, if you have an expensive uke like that, you surely can't blame it as a reason for holding you back. There are plenty of dilettantes out there.

wolfybau
09-17-2011, 04:18 AM
IMHO you should go with UUUniversity or skype lessons if you can't find a local instructor. No they aren't free, but if you are willing to drop $1k on your instrument , you shouldnt worry about the expense considering the fact that HOW you play is much more important than WHAT you play. Lessons would probly be your best investment, at least to get you to where you feel comfortable with studying on your own from books and videos. Good luck in your quest.

csr5z
09-18-2011, 12:42 PM
I'm aware of two ukulele teachers in the South Florida area, both located in Broward, if i'm not mistaken.

1. Ty Olopai www.pacificrhythmsfl.com
2. Armando at Penny Lane Emporium http://www.pennylaneemporium.com/LESSONS.html

Ty Olopai started 3 uke meetup groups in South Florida, in Broward County, Palm Beach County, and the Space Coast. I'm in the Palm Beach County group. Playing with other members of varying ability has helped me get a little better. http://www.floridaukulelenetwork.org/Meet-ups.html

Good luck!

gtrk
09-18-2011, 07:37 PM
I use the ukulele mike videos on you tube. I'm strumming along with him on several songs and have only started 4 weeks ago. Watch the tuning video, the basic strums videos (4/4 & 3/4) and the basic cords video. The easiest song I like I play with him is Sloop John B. There are many others too.

ksiegel
09-19-2011, 10:40 AM
Jim D'Ville's Play By Ear seminars are great - available on DVD if he doesn't come to where you are.

Jim also does private lessons on Skype.

Also, just playing with others is a great step.

And I have to agree with OldePhart - the Guitar (only) instructors I've run into just don't have whatever "It" is regarding the ukulele. Some of the multi-instrumental instructors, however, do. If you ever get to upstate NY, look up Ron Gordon in Schenectady. Guitar, banjo, mandolin, ukulele. Good on all, worth the cost of lessons.

-Kurt

Keef
09-20-2011, 09:58 AM
nothing messes with me more than the many videos I see and some kid says I got this for my birthday last week check this out then they belt out a great song :) then they go on to say its easy LOL

foxfair
09-20-2011, 06:58 PM
nothing messes with me more than the many videos I see and some kid says I got this for my birthday last week check this out then they belt out a great song :) then they go on to say its easy LOL

They probably have learned guitar or other instruments for years, and start uke in only 1 week.
You never know the truth from one video.

Keef
09-21-2011, 10:25 AM
I will keep on making noise and tube videos and endless hours of plinking noises that sends my cat into hiding and attending shows where everyone seems to be able to play with ease until I find a way to learn ... maybe im exspecting to much after all this non productive torcher has only been going on for two years GRRRRRR

haolejohn
09-21-2011, 11:59 AM
I think I need the structure that a teacher provides but their are no ukulele teachers around me only guitar instructors that tell me its almost the same thing I can teach you .. I want a ukulele teacher!

A good teacher can teach any instrument they can play. If they know the chords for the uke and they understand theory, I do not see why they can't teach it to you. I'd ask for a free trial though or a money back if not satisfied.

cashew
09-21-2011, 01:07 PM
Practice, Practice, Practice! (I bet you're sick of hearing it too :) but we say it for a reason.)

And with the vids, I find they zip along real fast too... but I'm really handy with the pause button, and i've been known to rewind and replay certain parts over and over until I get the concept :) Its like anything else, you don't start out good, but with practice, you become decent. (heck, I don't know If I hit the point of decent yet, but, I'm probably closer to tolerable).

One more thing, don't listen to the naysayers, some people never learned that when they can't be constructive, they shouldn't post at all...

FlyedPiper
09-21-2011, 05:43 PM
UU+ is awesome!! Especially considering the price. You get 2 weeks free to try it out too.

Along with that try Uncle Rods (free) and some easy songs. Practice the chord changes on those songs like you would with Uncle Rods and you'll be making music in no time! I see no reason to spend $50 an hour on a uke instructor that probably doesn't know much more than an average player on this forum (or $150 for 10 weeks of live lessons with Aldrine for that matter- JMHO). It's the Uke, man. You can learn at your own pace and it should be FUN above all.

Basics are everything. Just learn those chord drills and do them until your fingers are sore.

itsme
09-21-2011, 07:21 PM
Practice, Practice, Practice! (I bet you're sick of hearing it too :) but we say it for a reason.)

One more thing, don't listen to the naysayers, some people never learned that when they can't be constructive, they shouldn't post at all...
And some people need to understand that all the practice and dedication in the world won't make them the next Jake. Taking it to that level is not just about practice, but about an innate talent that many of us don't have.

Then there are those of us with physical limitations... I have carpal tunnel syndrome, tendonitis, arthritis, and limited hand mobility due to severed tendons (my left hand pinky can't fully extend).

Aside from that, many of us are hobbyists with real life preventing us from pursuing dreams of greatdom. And there is nothing wrong with that! Enjoying playing an instrument and making music is one of the best feelings ever. You don't have to be a virtuoso.

I had a choice, either quit playing or accept the fact that I could never be great even if I wanted to. Guess which I chose? I accept my limitations, and I love making music. :)

Nickie
09-21-2011, 08:21 PM
itsme, Thank you. I agree totally. I play 1st for my own pleasure, then for the pleasure of others. Nobody has told me they don't like it yet, and although I know I'll never be great at it, I keep trying! My left hand has been damaged, too, and my pinkies are reeeeeal short! If no one wanted to hear me, I'd still play by myself! There is nothing like making music...