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Pete Howlett
10-01-2011, 01:03 PM
I have noticed that there is a core of FAQ that pop up here on a regular basis. At the risk of being facetious may I suggest using the search function before posting on bending, mold making, wood thickness, wood selection, bridge placement, blah, blah, blah... you will see that there is a very deep well of advice and since there are some of us who want you to really succeed, we will be less likely to wearily reply with the same answers we have given half a dozen times before :)

Just a wee bit od friendly and free advice...

itsme
10-01-2011, 01:51 PM
I don't know how much you've tried using it, but the search feature here is (ahem!) somewhat less than robust.

I was surprised to see that the only stickies in the LL are about builders. Really seems to me that a FAQ sticky with links to common topics and resources would be really helpful.

You want to volunteer to compile it? :p

ukulian
10-01-2011, 02:05 PM
I don't know how much you've tried using it, but the search feature here is (ahem!) somewhat less than robust.
:p

Got to agree with that. Pretty pathetic, or should I say 'Random'! :)

Pete Howlett
10-01-2011, 02:12 PM
Moderators please note - improve search feature and get someone to do a proper sticky thingy (whatever one of those is :( )

itsme
10-01-2011, 02:26 PM
Moderators please note - improve search feature and get someone to do a proper sticky thingy (whatever one of those is :( )
A "sticky" is a thread that's been "stuck" so it stays at the top of the list of threads within a forum. :)

Dan Uke
10-01-2011, 02:37 PM
I have noticed that there is a core of FAQ that pop up here on a regular basis. At the risk of being facetious may I suggest using the search function before posting on bending, mold making, wood thickness, wood selection, bridge placement, blah, blah, blah... you will see that there is a very deep well of advice and since there are some of us who want you to really succeed, we will be less likely to wearily reply with the same answers we have given half a dozen times before :)

Just a wee bit od friendly and free advice...

If you think those questions are asked alot, you need to go to Uke Talk where the "What is the best uke for $200" or some form of that question shows up so often that I think it's has a sticky

mketom
10-01-2011, 03:04 PM
there is a very deep well of advice

Pete is right! It IS a deep well. Search engine is no Google but I have been able to tap that well without much work. Almost everything has been asked before so turn over a few more stones and I think you can find most anything you need to know. Thanks Pete!

I'll try to keep track of some of my better 'finds' and ask one of the moderators to make a' sticky' list if things like bending temps, top thickness, etc.

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
10-01-2011, 03:10 PM
If you can't find the answers to your questions just PM Pete. I know he'll happily answer any questions.

buddhuu
10-01-2011, 03:26 PM
Moderators please note - improve search feature and get someone to do a proper sticky thingy (whatever one of those is :( )

LOLz. :D

Moderators don't have the power to improve the search function, Pete. The UU forum is powered by vBulletin, a ready-made forum program. All the facilities are built in and only changeable by people with plenty of time and PHP scripting skills.

As for the sticky... If the luthiers or the hobby builders want to compile a thread of FAQs and/or top tips we'll be happy to make it a sticky.

Pete Howlett
10-01-2011, 03:30 PM
I'm only underlining comments - experience fo the forum will be varied. hey Chuck - I'm not that confident I have any of the answers especially after your glue thread ;)

buddhuu
10-01-2011, 03:33 PM
Actually, to search the UU forum, your best bet may be Google. That's what I use.

Use the Advanced Search (http://www.google.com/advanced_search), enter your search terms and specify http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/ in the bit that says "Search within a site or domain".

Personally I prefer Google to any forum search on any forum I use, not just UU's forum.

foxfair
10-01-2011, 04:10 PM
Aid on Google's power, you can actually do it without improving forum search function:

Type the following in google search bar:


site:http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?30-Ukulele-Building-Luthier-s-Lounge bending

Replace bending to anything you want to search, dig deeper from the result.

erich@muttcrew.net
10-01-2011, 10:38 PM
+1 on using

site:http://www.ukuleleunderground.com....
in your google search, though you'll also find that UU pops up pretty high on the list if you simply add ukulele to your search, as in: ukulele bridge placement, ukulele soundhole size, ukulele mold, ukulele wood choice, etc

I suggested a sticky FAQ page years ago, but nothing ever came of it. I would be willing to help out some but clearly no one can spend a lot of time reviewing old posts and compiling links just to save other people time searching for what they need to know. And in the end this is not essentially an archive to be searched for boxed information but a forum which is a place to arrive at answers by means of interaction, presentation, discussion, debate....

I understand Pete's fatigue at answering some of these basic questions, but the attendance here and the level of knowledge and experience varies so much.... I'm afraid this may be one of those never ending stories. And I'm not in favor of putting a gate at the door requiring new members to pass a three hour FAQ exam before they can post here - and besides that who the ]-[€|| wants to check their answers?

jackwhale
10-02-2011, 06:50 AM
Thanks for the search suggestions using Google. I hadn't realized one could search through a specific site, using advanced search.

Dave Higham
10-02-2011, 07:33 AM
The other day, on the Tru Oil vs French Polish thread Pete said

"This has been a subject of discussion many times. William King's method is probably the easiest and most simply explained. It is in the archives of this forum - just do a search."

I tried Pete, I really did .....

sukie
10-02-2011, 07:58 AM
Would using tags help?

Pete Howlett
10-02-2011, 08:42 AM
William King's oil finish technique with my edit here (http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?12789-William-King-s-oil-finish-lacquer-regime)

ProfChris
10-02-2011, 01:31 PM
Even if the search function is hard to use (but see Buddhu's post #11 on searching via Google), itis only courteous to the experts on here to do some research first.

In other words, this shouldn't be the first place you bring your bright idea ("Why can't I just use Gorilla Glue to attach the neck?"). A simple Google search for "neck attach Gorilla Glue"will find you many pages where those who have tried it relate their experience.

Armed with that knowledge, you can ask a sensible question (eg "For the first time builder which is the easiest way to attach a neck - Spanish heel, dovetail, bolt-on, dowel, 6-inch nail"). This gives the experts the pleasure of disagreeing with each other, and means you will learn a lot.

vanflynn
10-02-2011, 04:07 PM
As a non-Luthier UUer, I have found this forum invaluable. I now know more about the making and subtle things that go into a ukulele. It makes us better 'Ukers understanding the instrument. You Pros are also very tolerant with us newbies, showing us threads that have already addressed things. Computers have their limitations but people don't.

Rick Turner
10-02-2011, 08:28 PM
Re. neck attachment...hot melt glue gun from Ace Hardware and a couple of 1 1/4" long narrow crown staples shot from a Senco nail gun. Fill over the staple crowns with FixAll, and paint to suit.

ksquine
10-03-2011, 08:24 AM
I like to see the traffic on the forum....even if they are redundant questions. I think more posting leads to more posting. I've seen many dull forums that people just don't bother with anymore.
Maybe alot of the traffic is junk but there's a few nuggets in there that are really good.

hoosierhiver
10-03-2011, 09:20 AM
I like to see the traffic on the forum....even if they are redundant questions. I think more posting leads to more posting. I've seen many dull forums that people just don't bother with anymore.
Maybe alot of the traffic is junk but there's a few nuggets in there that are really good.

I agree, this topic has more or less been touched on before (do a search) and my conclusion is some of the oft-repeated topics give newer members a chance to participate and become known, otherwise this might as well just be a database. If you are tired of the same old threads, ignore them.

fahrner
10-03-2011, 09:38 AM
I like to see the traffic on the forum....even if they are redundant questions. I think more posting leads to more posting. I've seen many dull forums that people just don't bother with anymore.
Maybe alot of the traffic is junk but there's a few nuggets in there that are really good.
Agree.
It's kinda like 'brainstorming'. The idea is to create an environment that encourages an uninhibited flow of ideas. Many of them will be lame but once in a while a nugget comes to the surface or is shared.
One of the current threads is a prime example. What started out as an uninformed idea brought forth a pearl of insight in bending (I'm talking about the foil wrap from Michael).

taylordb
10-03-2011, 02:04 PM
I know it takes a long time, but before I went and asked a bunch of questions, I started from the beginning and read every thread in their entirety. You would be surprised how many tips are hidden in unrelated threads. There is a wealth of knowledge that is there that you might not see by just using the search function.

Rick Turner
10-03-2011, 06:52 PM
Traffic for the sake of traffic is a traffic jam. "Ideas" thrown out with no homework done, with no track record of actually doing anything, with no dues paid at all is just random noise...static that gets in the way of effective discourse. It's usually utter bullshit.

Allen
10-03-2011, 10:12 PM
Watch out Rick, yer starting to sound Australian.:D

Kekani
10-03-2011, 10:27 PM
Watch out Rick, yer starting to sound Australian.:D

Must be all that time spent south of the Equator rubbing off. . .

Personally, I just love the posts that asks a question or recommendation about a certain build or process in the build, then the experienced responses are opposite of what the poster expected, and the poster just ends up doing what he wanted in the first place.
I liken this to calling everyone out and asking, "What do you think about if I did this?" and when he gets an answer, he let's two birds fly and does what he wanted to in the first place, and never to be heard from again (or, heard from too much).
I say keep the birds to yourself, and stay off the roads until you learn how to drive.

Aaron

dustartist
10-03-2011, 10:32 PM
Re. neck attachment...hot melt glue gun from Ace Hardware and a couple of 1 1/4" long narrow crown staples shot from a Senco nail gun. Fill over the staple crowns with FixAll, and paint to suit.

Now I know the secret to the Compass Rose sound.....

buddhuu
10-04-2011, 04:11 AM
Here's my take:

Searching with Google - even advanced search - isn't difficult once you've done it a couple of times. It is a useful skill for any Internet user to master, and it IS a skill. There's a knack to searching that comes with practice. One learns how to phrase search terms to get the most relevant information.

Searching before asking is a great idea because you can save yourself some time and because you may find information that is not repeated in the responses to a new query that you may post.

That said, there is no harm in asking an old question. Some topics bear revisiting. Times, techniques, tools and opinions all change over time. The consensus answer to a query posed today may be pretty different to the answer given to that same question a year or two ago.

Even the pros change their minds and their processes in light of new experience, new tools and new information.

Ask away, but consider searching first.

foxfair
10-04-2011, 04:57 AM
And.. you cannot ask people to get their questions answered by searching alone. Some people just don't know how to put keywords into search bar, and some can get the answer they need way faster than others. Know how to use the tool is not difficult, knowing how to put the right keyword is.