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Pete Howlett
09-14-2008, 10:18 AM
At the show at the Cheltenham Acoustic Guitar Show this weekend I had a prime position. I saw loads of guys walking through trailing their wives/partners. You know the type - I'm a totally stunning guitarist, watch me as I try every guitar on your stand. The ladies would smile and walk over to my booth trailing their partners. My line - 'Why are you smiling?'. Their response: 'They are so cute!' By this time the husband/partner has caught up with them as I pick up and instrument ready to put it into their hot hands. And hey presto, you'd think I was handing them a steaming turd! Nearly everyone admired the workmanship but as guitarists, refused or struggled to play the humble ukulele. Boy am I glad I don't make guitars anymore - these guys were soooo boring.

SuperSecretBETA
09-14-2008, 11:20 AM
Don't assume every guitarist knows how to play the ukulele, and don't look down on them for it! You're trying to sell ukuleles, right? The ukulele doesn't come off so humble when you only think of how great you are. You should encourage them! Maybe you could print out a large visible chord chart.

This whole mentality of "I'm humble, and you're not... so that makes me better than you" is completely hypocritical. Greet potential customers with care and understanding, and spread the love of ukulele.

Pete Howlett
09-14-2008, 11:46 AM
What is this? Why do I bother :mad: I wont be visitng this forum much more...

deach
09-14-2008, 11:48 AM
SSB - check your user CP.


oh and this is for you..



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El-C3w4CYqo

Kaneohe til the end
09-14-2008, 02:00 PM
pete,
chillax dude. relax and try to see things from anothers perspective

thesoobz
09-14-2008, 02:09 PM
LETS BE HAPPY!. dude dont trip man not everyone is like that.

plus your not gonna visit this forum cause of that? come on! you love the uke we love the uke you cant quit brah!

acabooe
09-14-2008, 04:23 PM
You know that there are people on this forum that like and play BOTH the Ukulele and the Guitar right? ( such as Aldrine, and Ryan to name a few )
Not every person is like the ones that you experienced.
I feel that we are all musicians, and/or lovers of music, and I think that it is good that we can come together like this.

Don't worry about the people that snobbed your instruments, it will waste your energy. Try instead to reach the people that may be interested in your products. The Ukulele is growing in popularity again, and some people are picking it up for the first time and loving it.
Who knows, there might be a handful of people in a big place like the one that you described that do like the Ukulele, and maybe they just hadn't made it over to your booth yet.
Try to be positive.

Aloha
Bob

UkeNinja
09-14-2008, 05:12 PM
It sounds like the guitar trade show you entered was not much of a success then... that is too bad. Then again, you said there is not much ukulele building going on in the UK, so perhaps your experiences are those of the unrecognized pioneer (with a 100+ year old instrument, lol).

What about the general atmosphere at the show? Visitor profile? Did you get good reactions, contact with other builders, stuff like that or was it one big drag? Perhaps both you and the guitarists were slightly biased in your reactions to each other? I mean, did you give them a quick demo and let them have a hand at it? Please tell us a good story as well :)

David Barnes
09-15-2008, 05:51 AM
At the show at the Cheltenham Acoustic Guitar Show this weekend I had a prime position. I saw loads of guys walking through trailing their wives/partners. You know the type - I'm a totally stunning guitarist, watch me as I try every guitar on your stand. The ladies would smile and walk over to my booth trailing their partners. My line - 'Why are you smiling?'. Their response: 'They are so cute!' By this time the husband/partner has caught up with them as I pick up and instrument ready to put it into their hot hands. And hey presto, you'd think I was handing them a steaming turd! Nearly everyone admired the workmanship but as guitarists, refused or struggled to play the humble ukulele. Boy am I glad I don't make guitars anymore - these guys were soooo boring.

Pete, looks to me like you have a clear potential market there -- bored wives that get dragged to guitar shows but have had enough of their husbands macho 'axeman' antics.

I often wonder why clothing stores and beauty shops don't have a men's 'creche' where we can watch DVDs and play poker while our wives do their thing. Perhaps 'ukulele lady workshops' are the path to riches at guitar shows. (Not to mention more fun than talking to big hairy guitar wielding blokes.)

Pete Howlett
09-15-2008, 07:54 AM
My very thoughts David!

ricdoug
09-15-2008, 08:38 AM
Perhaps a few tenor ukes would be nice to wean them down... The reentrant tuning took me a few months to click. As a guitarist of many decades, I first tried the uke in August of last year. When I saw several hundred people in a presentation at a music museum, it sparked my interest. When recruiting new ukulelists, I first ask them if they play guitar. Then I say play me a "G", just like on your guitar. Play me a "C", just like on your guitar. Play me a "D7", just like on your guitar. Then I explain that they just played "C", "F", and "G7" and show them a few popular tunes played in that 1,4,5 progression. Stick around, Pete. There's a lot of interest in your work, here. :) Ric

HI@heart
09-15-2008, 09:39 AM
Tough audience. Bravo for trying Pete. The guitar-only crowd will catch wind sooner or later that ukes are formidable instruments and some will be flocking to specialty builders more at some point in the future. In the meantime, like it's been said, you have a captive audience here Pete.

tad
09-15-2008, 11:00 AM
Pete, looks to me like you have a clear potential market there -- bored wives that get dragged to guitar shows but have had enough of their husbands macho 'axeman' antics.

I often wonder why clothing stores and beauty shops don't have a men's 'creche' where we can watch DVDs and play poker while our wives do their thing. Perhaps 'ukulele lady workshops' are the path to riches at guitar shows. (Not to mention more fun than talking to big hairy guitar wielding blokes.)

I like this idea. You'd also then probably start getting male visitors, when the single guys see all the ladies congregating around one table.

JoeyJr858
09-15-2008, 11:48 AM
maybe have a DVD playing w/ footage of Jake, Aldrine, Abe, Troy Fernandez, Imua Garza, Lyle Ritz, Herb Ohta, Koeki K, James Hill, etc...etc????

As a long time percussionist, going to conventions and expos... I tend to gravitate more to a booth w/ an endorsed artist or some great footage on a monitor.

Some people need to physically see the potential of this awesome lil' instrument, yknow?


(I like the idea of showin the uke to the wives though! haha
makes me think of those guys who get all close teaching them how to shoot pool)
HAHA

NukeDOC
09-15-2008, 11:58 AM
(I like the idea of showin the uke to the wives though! haha
makes me think of those guys who get all close teaching them how to shoot pool)
HAHA

the "pottery scene" from the movie GHOST just popped into my head.

can you imagine deach teaching someone to beat drums?...

"this is the way you beat the drum... and this is the way i beat my..." :eek::rofl:

SuperSecretBETA
09-15-2008, 12:15 PM
Hire an attractive girl from Hooters Nottingham at £200 for the whole day to flirt with everyone (girls too) and help sell ukuleles.

JoeyJr858
09-15-2008, 12:17 PM
the "pottery scene" from the movie GHOST just popped into my head.

can you imagine deach teaching someone to beat drums?...

"this is the way you beat the drum... and this is the way i beat my..." :eek::rofl:

HHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
awesome!

deach
09-15-2008, 12:17 PM
the "pottery scene" from the movie GHOST just popped into my head.

can you imagine deach teaching someone to beat drums?...

"this is the way you beat the drum... and this is the way i beat my..." :eek::rofl:

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1302/4819541/17784501/334676286.jpg
Is that a mound of clay or are you just happy to see me?

JoeyJr858
09-15-2008, 12:24 PM
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/vol1302/4819541/17784501/334676286.jpg
Is That A Mound Of Clay Or Are You Just Happy To See Me?

Ho Damn!!!
That's Funny!!!
Ahahahahahahahahaha

NukeDOC
09-15-2008, 12:28 PM
Ho Damn!!!
That's Funny!!!
Ahahahahahahahahaha
NOT FUNNY!!! its disturbing! im going to have nightmares for a week. my "moist" dreams will suddenly turn dry because as soon as i see the girl's face in my dream ill realize that its deach's face! where's the vomit smiley???

ok enough threadjacking. back on topic. mostly because i dont want to see where this goes from here if it continues to go off track!

thesoobz
09-15-2008, 06:31 PM
ey but is that really deach? im so confused. haha im relativly new on this.. so uh..

David Barnes
09-15-2008, 11:23 PM
maybe have a DVD playing w/ footage of Jake, Aldrine, Abe, Troy Fernandez, Imua Garza, Lyle Ritz, Herb Ohta, Koeki K, James Hill, etc...etc????

As a long time percussionist, going to conventions and expos... I tend to gravitate more to a booth w/ an endorsed artist or some great footage on a monitor.

Some people need to physically see the potential of this awesome lil' instrument, yknow?

(I like the idea of showin the uke to the wives though! haha
makes me think of those guys who get all close teaching them how to shoot pool)
HAHA

Videos would be a great idea, and I would also include UKOGB and Gugug. And some funny uke videos too: the Will Macy one, the Will Smith one, etc.

Photos of famous people with ukuleles would also get people looking (George H, John L, Paul M, especially).


Hire an attractive girl from Hooters Nottingham at 200 for the whole day to flirt with everyone (girls too) and help sell ukuleles.

Personally this would put me off. I hate booth babes, and while they might get people to the booth they won't get people interested in ukuleles. (Also when you get close, they always look kind of disturbing.) Not to mention that everybody's palms will get sweaty and they won't be able to test the ukuleles properly.

Of course any girl playing the ukulele is incredibly attractive, so getting a ukulele lady to play at the booth could only help.


I like this idea. You'd also then probably start getting male visitors, when the single guys see all the ladies congregating around one table.

Haha, devious stuff.

Pete Howlett
09-16-2008, 12:39 AM
I have a very attractive wife who sets up my stand and does the public interface thing when I am demonstrating and she comes free! But there is something I have to tell you cuzens - UK shows are just not like those in the US!

That famous British reserve can be best translated as 'cynicism' - we tend to recoil from the sales pitch (not me! I love being sold to) and are very wary of anyone trying to push their products. You shop in a store in the UK and 9 times out of 10 you are left to make your own decisions: it's assumed that we don't need help buying. I think it would probably be the reverse in the US.

This is a bad thing:uhoh: so you have to strike a balance and sadly, a pretty girl with a great rack won't do it for most of the DBL's that go to these shows.

redsedge
09-16-2008, 01:44 AM
Agreed, Pete - but a ukulele lady workshop would be wonderful. And you would be surrounded by lovely people all day.

ill-attack
10-03-2008, 12:07 AM
forgive me for i have played guitar and love it.