Well I've been looking for a used Kamaka HF-3 but all of them I see are at least $1000 used. I couldn't stand it anymore I went to Artisan guitars in Nashville. Theirs were all sold but they said they would be getting a new shipment in the last of December. The original price was $1150 new with Kamaka case and free shipping and goodies as they called it tho not sure what the goodies are. I received an email back from them saying the price had increased to $1245 but since they had already quoted the $1150 that they would honor that. I put a down payment on it and they are giving me first choice on which one of the batch I want and are going to send pics of all the HF-3s that come in. I think new is the route to take for me since all the used HF-3s I see listed at a grand have a ding or 2 in them. I don't mind paying an extra $150 for a new one of my choice rather then a used one with dings and playwear.